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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 08:04 AM
February 9 was the last day I had a pull on a jay. I had decided to give up weed for Lent. My real motivation for quitting was to get clean for a life insurance physical. I used Lent to get me to get started. Yesterday was the one month mark. I have been thinking about how forward I was looking to that first post Lent buzz, once I made it passed the insurance physical. On Monday we had a safety meeting at work and the boss said that we didn't have any random drug tests all year, and no drug tests as a result of work related injuries. In order to prove to our insurance carrier that we are working our safety program, we are going to have to do some random screening....soon. He said, "If you aren't clean, GET clean." At least we had the warning. Now, I am wondering if it's time to just give it up permanently. I love getting high...not stoned to the bone, but a nice mellow buzz. I'm the kind of guy who will hit a doob once or twice, then pass it on. It doesn't take much, and I know when to say when. How about some input from the gallery? What's a old hippy to do? Grow up and stop, or maybe just put it up and save it for special occasions?

 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 08:07 AM
Good job Dave, congrats I think

 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 08:10 AM
I've never been a smoker so maybe I shouldn't even offer any input but I do work in the insurance business, workers' comp to be specific, and I know that our insured's take the "drug free workplace" stuff pretty seriously. If it comes down to the point were a random screening will land you in counseling or rehab, you'd probably be wise to give it up. Most of my customers don't give many second chances because the discounts on their coverages are so much. Good luck!
 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 08:12 AM
Hey Dave - been about 10 years since I really smoked any weed, don't even think about it any more. Just kind of phased out of my life. Didn't really try to quit, just did. give it a couple of months and see how you feel.
 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 08:27 AM
we started to get random drug testing at my job this time last year (April 1st, 2004). i was the biggest stoner i knew (ask any of the sweeties, or anyone who knows me, i'm sure they will testify). i was stoned so often i didnt know what not being stoned felt like. loved my weed.

i've been smoking since a VERY young age (so young i'm not gonna say), i thought i couldnt live without my pal MaryJane....so i quit smoking only because work made me.

in order to compensate for my lack of buzz 7 nights a week, i would hit happy hour ALOT more. i started to have "anxiety attacks" so i talked my doctor into giving me xanex to help....also, i wound up drinking 5 nights a week instead of 2. I REALLY, REALLY missed my weed. Well, drinking leads to harder drugs for me far too often....and thats why i decided to check into rehab in september.

i gave it all up in the big mix, and its been 163 days since i had a pull on a joint. Dave, i cried like a little girl when it was done too. i guess i knew it was the last one for me.

i guess in order for me to do the right thing for me, i had to quit it all (plus, i still get random testing, at a higher rate then the rest of the company because i was in rehab).

so the morale of the story is - be careful you dont replace weed with something else. my head is finally clear, i can think better, i've lost ALOT of weight (no more munchies) and i am really relived that i don't have to worry about getting and using and finding ways and means to get more weed.

the first time i cleaned my house - i kept thinking - there is NO WAY i can do this straight - and god (who does have a sense of humor) had me find a half of a joint during the cleaning process. i flushed it, and finished cleaning. it was easier since i would actually finish something, instead of starting, stopping, forgetting, misplacing, etc.

sorry to ramble. quitting drugs topics seem to be my specialty lately........

[Edited on 3/10/2005 by LinnieX]

 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 09:05 AM
I'm sure you'll get a lot of support here big D... and whatever you choose, I hope it will be right for you.....

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 09:18 AM
My question would be why does your work feel the need for drug testing since
you have had no drug related incidents or accidents.

Seems to me like you and your coworkers are behaving responsibly without the
drug testing.

Marijuana is less harmful than booze or cigaretes yet these puritans want to make
everyone stop. It is BS.

Why should it matter if you wind down at the end of the day with mary jane
or ole whiskey river.

This is another case of unwarrented invasion of privacy. Drug war lunacy.

I don't know how much you love your job and the people you work with. If it were
Me I'd quit and find a new employer that values the privacy of its workers.

Which ever way you go, good luck Brother.

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 09:29 AM
Linnie, I see your point. I value it. I really do. I admire and appreciate your candor about how it has changed and positively affected your life. Thank you.

Johnwott, I see your point, too. I agree it's a privacy issue. In my industry, working in a plant environment and around big machinery, drug testing is a way of life. It's not so much perpetuated by the company I work for as much as it is the insurance company. When you follow a certain drug education and prevention policy or program, you get a big break on your premium. To my boss, it's a business decision. He could care less what I do on my own time. BUT, in order to prove to the insurer that we are working our safety and drug program, we have to show proof that we are random testing. So...we either do it, or lose the premium discount. And as you know, in business the bottom line matters. It sucks, but it's the way it is.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 09:53 AM
There are ways to have drug safety programs without random testing.
I've worked for companies that had
drug testing based on work performance. A drop in attendance or performance could
trigger a drug test if the supervisor has reasonable cause to suspect it. Drug counseling
for first offenders, not firing.

Random testing and zero tolerance is a chicken$hit way out for insurance companies and employers.


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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 10:10 AM
....wait a while, see how ya feel. if enough time goes by and you're ok without it, cool.

if you need or want a puff now and then, so be it.

you're cool dave, hang tough.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 10:23 AM
Dave,


I stopped about 15 years ago and I don't miss it. I was tired of feeling tired and having my head all foggy. I also thint that whatever responsibities I have became my priority and I couldn't risk anyone or anything for that.
I say move on and just remember the good times you had.

 

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There are ways to have drug safety programs without random testing.
I've worked for companies that had
drug testing based on work performance. A drop in attendance or performance could
trigger a drug test if the supervisor has reasonable cause to suspect it. Drug counseling
for first offenders, not firing.

Random testing and zero tolerance is a chicken$hit way out for insurance companies and employers.


Peace
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Fortunately, we don't have zero tolerance. It's more like 3 strikes, you're out, with counselling on the first offense, suspension with the second offense and third time, gone.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 10:50 AM
been awhile for me..i would take a pull every now and then but there is so much i am trying to accomplish in my life, i need to have it together..ya never who is calling when I pick up the phone (agent, promoter ect) and i want to make a good impression...plus, I want to get to the relaxed point musically on my own..i will have some beers here and there but even that is sporadic..( although I do drink more when Sang is around)

 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 11:05 AM
I don't hardly drink beer at shows anymore, never partake. I've found it takes away too much from the experience. If you stood in front of the Jack Pearson Band at the Cotton Club, didn't you want your senses totally uncompromised so as to drink in the moment?

Now as to late at night at home, preferably with a cutie and some great sounds....to everything, there is a season.

Linnie, that was a great story. Somebody give this lady a hug and a pat on the back soon.

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 11:16 AM
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Somebody give this lady a hug and a pat on the back soon.




Hugs! not drugs!

 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 11:21 AM
Drinking at shows does that to me too, that's why I smoke. It really seems to open me up to music. Big Dave do whatcha like bro. I personally would keep it on the shelf for celebration, backaches, etc... I do it everyday three times a day, I'll stop for a week or two every now and then and clear things up.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 11:46 AM
It's ironic that my two favorite pasttimes usually put me in an environment where there is consumption going on. Music and motorcycles. Linnie, I'll be interested to hear how you coped with the Beacon parties once they're over. And yes, Linnie deserves a big hug for sharing in her journey!

 

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Linnie, I'll be interested to hear how you coped with the Beacon parties once they're over


yeah, you and me both are intersted in how i will cope with the beacon parties....

i am planning on hanging out ALOT in the raffle room during both big parties; no booze or drugs in there. also hitting an NA meeting in manahattan on thursday. i dont want to trade in 163 days clean for 4 days of misery; i know too much now and any high i get will be ruined by that knowledge.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 11:56 AM
Good job Dave.I once stopped for 3 1/2 months. Just so I know I could..LOL!!

Still hang with Mary Jane but not on a consistant basis........meaning not all day everyday.LOL!!

 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 11:56 AM
You got a good plan Linnie, stick with it.
 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 11:58 AM
Congrats to Big Dave and to Linnie.

But, One Month Without Weeds?

I thought this was a thread about Sang's lawn.......

 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 12:05 PM
I smoked EVERY day for 30 years and I quit 3 years ago. I'll take a hit or 2 here or there at a special event (like at the Fox last year). But 9 times out of 10 I really don't care for the buzz I get from it anymore. I feel better now than I did four years ago.

Though somedays I miss it but it passes. I still drink beer and have a shot of Jim Beam now and then.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2005 at 12:08 PM
hey dave, I'm with you on the lent thing. I gave up booze for it. I'm not especially religious , I just used it as a bookend. Did it last year to and my fiance presented me with a bottle of Willie Nelson's own Whiskey River bourbon on Good Friday. This year I hope to have a few beers at the Black Crowes concert at the hammerstein. If not, I'll be at my favorite bar, McSwiggans on 23rd and 2nd !

Did a beacon show with no beer last year and it was a breeze. I saved a ton of money. That's part of my motivation this year.

I saw Dickey Betts at a racuous LI bar this past Sunday. I felt good driving my friends there and having absolutly no worries driving home afterwards. I will definatly be doing more shows sober , especially on week nights and if driving is involved. The driving thing has always been a " no brainer" The best part of the beacon is that most people aren't driving home afterwards !

On the smoking thing . I gave it up regularly a while a go but will partake once in a while. I don't see it as bad as say someone who had to give up drinking and takes a drink thus risking blowing their sobriety effort to hell. I'm not sure if I made much sense here except that I'm abstaining as well.

Good luck.

Did anything ever come out the talk about a "wharf rats" like crew meeting at th beacon ? The Enlightened Rouges ???

[Edited on 3/10/2005 by tommars]

 

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My question would be why does your work feel the need for drug testing since
you have had no drug related incidents or accidents.

Seems to me like you and your coworkers are behaving responsibly without the
drug testing.

Marijuana is less harmful than booze or cigaretes yet these puritans want to make
everyone stop. It is BS.

Why should it matter if you wind down at the end of the day with mary jane
or ole whiskey river.

This is another case of unwarrented invasion of privacy. Drug war lunacy.

I don't know how much you love your job and the people you work with. If it were
Me I'd quit and find a new employer that values the privacy of its workers.

Which ever way you go, good luck Brother.

Peace
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Depends on the work...
I am in charge of crews of tower climbers who work between 150' and 300' in the air. Even if they appear to be "good guys"- and they are- I would want to know if they are using. My company would not be able to recover should an accident occur due to an employee under being found "under the influence".
That is why we test anyway...
I miss it sometimes but what are 'ya gonna do- I was "recreational" anyway.

LinnieX- hats off to you- you're an inspiration. Thanks for sharing.

 

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Linnie, I'll be interested to hear how you coped with the Beacon parties once they're over


yeah, you and me both are intersted in how i will cope with the beacon parties....

i am planning on hanging out ALOT in the raffle room during both big parties; no booze or drugs in there. also hitting an NA meeting in manahattan on thursday. i dont want to trade in 163 days clean for 4 days of misery; i know too much now and any high i get will be ruined by that knowledge.
You've come this far Linnie. I have confidense in you!

 

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