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  posted on 9/6/2019 at 01:58 PM
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Glide has posted their review: https://glidemagazine.com/231861/allman-brothers-band-50th-anniversary-cont inues-with-fillmore-west-71-album-review/

Hhmmm....reads suspiciously like the original PR announcement and/or the product description on the merch site!?!?!....begs the question of whether the author actually listened to it (all) !?!?!?

 

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  posted on 9/6/2019 at 02:28 PM
I received a text from my building that I had a package today. When I got home I ran up to the concierge desk to get it. It was from Amazon! Went upstairs, tore open the package and I was the proud owner of:


another copy of the new Laid Back release.

 

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  posted on 9/6/2019 at 09:52 PM
Anyone else order this from the Big House site? I got an email for USPS tracking early in the week, but it doesn't appear that it shipped today. I wanted to get it from as close to the source as possible, but hopefully that doesn't mean I am waiting longer than somebody who cut Amazon in on the money. Surely they got them in the mail today, right?
 

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  posted on 9/6/2019 at 10:03 PM
I did. Just checked my UPS tracking status. Apparently there is some delay at the source.

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SCOTTDALE, GA 30079

 

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  posted on 9/6/2019 at 10:33 PM
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Anyone else order this from the Big House site? I got an email for USPS tracking early in the week, but it doesn't appear that it shipped today. I wanted to get it from as close to the source as possible, but hopefully that doesn't mean I am waiting longer than somebody who cut Amazon in on the money. Surely they got them in the mail today, right?


Same here, I got an email on the 4th that the shipping label was created but not shipped yet. Still not mailed according to the USPS.

 

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  posted on 9/7/2019 at 10:01 AM
Just checked, and mine is in the mail as of 9:59 am on Saturday. Wonder why it took an extra day to get them to the USPS.
 

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  posted on 9/7/2019 at 10:08 AM
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Glide has posted their review: https://glidemagazine.com/231861/allman-brothers-band-50th-anniversary-cont inues-with-fillmore-west-71-album-review/

Hhmmm....reads suspiciously like the original PR announcement and/or the product description on the merch site!?!?!....begs the question of whether the author actually listened to it (all) !?!?!?


All About Jazz piece posted today is a little less of a puff piece....https://www.allaboutjazz.com/fillmore-west-71-by-doug-collette.php

 

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  posted on 9/7/2019 at 10:34 AM
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Glide has posted their review: https://glidemagazine.com/231861/allman-brothers-band-50th-anniversary-cont inues-with-fillmore-west-71-album-review/

Hhmmm....reads suspiciously like the original PR announcement and/or the product description on the merch site!?!?!....begs the question of whether the author actually listened to it (all) !?!?!?


All About Jazz piece posted today is a little less of a puff piece....https://www.allaboutjazz.com/fillmore-west-71-by-doug-collette.php


Here is that review:

The Allman Brothers Band: Fillmore West '71
Doug ColletteBy DOUG COLLETTE
September 7, 2019

Like virtually all the previously-releases from The Allman Brothers Band Recording Co., this latest archive release, Fillmore West '71, is a mixed blessing. The four-CD set might better have been graced with the stylized graphics that adorn such titles as Nassau Coliseum: Uniondale, NY 5/1/73 (The Allman Brothers Band Recording Co., 2005) including the caveat about sound quality, because it is of a piece with such exhumations from the ABB vault, even if deceptively so: the best moments hearken to the brilliance of the seminal At Fillmore East (Capricorn, 1971), but the musicianship on fully half the collection is muffled by production that, like the packaging, belies the rigor of the the Southern rock pioneers in the original six-man lineup documented here.

The most memorable intervals reside within the compact discs dated 1/30 and 1/31 respectively. On the latter, a near-eleven minute "Dreams" is a deeply psychedelic exploration of a tune that did not appear anywhere on The 1971 Fillmore East Recordings (UME, 2014). Otherwise, every number on that collection is here, sometimes in a form that even (almost?) transcends those included on the aforementioned groundbreaking concert piece: on the "Whipping Post," close to twenty-one minutes in duration, for example, the band extrapolates that combination of savagery and solace at the core of Gregg Allman's composition. Bassist Berry Oakley is especially prominent on a reading of that song from the night of 1/29, asserting himself, as he often did, almost on par with the extraordinary guitarists.

It is one of a small handful of moments fully capturing pinnacles of the increasingly well-honed interactions among this ensemble that just about offsets the liabilities of Fillmore West '71. Take the aggressive call-and-response guitar partners Duane Allman and Dickey Betts engage in on the "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed;" ostensibly from the first night of this run, one of the most egregious instances of erratic audio quality on this first disc; near-dropouts occur at more than a couple junctures, perhaps due to clumsy edits or tape changes, disrupting the flow of such passages, undermining Gregg Allman's role as blues singer par excellence, via vocals on truncated cuts like "Trouble No More" and the impassioned "Stormy Monday," where the Hammond B3 of the band's chief songwriter and keyboardist is way too far up front in the early going.

Likewise, the sound is egregiously trebly, to the great detriment of dual percussionists Jaimoe and Butch Trucks, during the forty-five minute "Mountain Jam" included as 'bonus' material on disc four. Recorded at The Warehouse in New Orleans, just after those famous Fillmore East appearances, this piece is nevertheless notable for the "Who Do You Love" interval near the end, proof positive of how open-ended was the Brothers' approach to the melodic theme of British folk-rocker Donovan's quasi-children's song "There Is A Mountain."

Clearly still in the process of development as a performance piece, as depicted on Bear's Sonic Journals: Fillmore East February 1970—Deluxe Edition (The Allman Brothers Band Recording Company, 2019), the two-CD 'Deluxe Edition' of ABB's second studio effort Idlewild South (UME, 2015) as well as Live at the Atlanta International Pop Festival: July 3 & 5, 1970 (Legacy, 2003)—all three of which are superior to this package in design and production—its appearance on Fillmore West '71 only reaffirms the debilitating sonics of this package. Curiously, there is no specific credit for mixing, and while mastering engineer Tom Lewis no doubt did his best with what he had to work with—reel-to-reel soundboard masters, not multi-tracks—the final product for this release begs the question of prior preparation of these tapes.

Unofficial information for releases of this content that were eventually forestalled also correlates to the conflicting details of the dates assigned to this package. Various documents accessible on-line (conspicuously including the database on the Allman Brothers' own website), suggest calendar contradictions (three nights or four?) that essayist John Lynskey glosses over in an essay that otherwise might well have been abbreviated to allow for more action shots of the ABB. But photographs are relegated to an otherwise formidable black and white front cover image of Duane Allman, oddly to the exclusion of his bandmates, who only appear on the back in a stage shot.

Likewise from the camera of Jim Marshall, this action image looks all too similar to yet another piece of work from his famed photographer—from the gate-fold of At Fillmore East—but it dovetails with more appealing visual accouterments—in the mushroom graphics on the compact discs themselves and the replications of the show posters inside this six-panel digi-pak. Representative of the peak musical moments on the CD's (there is no vinyl at this point), these splashes of color are in marked contrast to the one-dimensional monaural timbre of the tapes that might otherwise have warranted a lesser-priced selling point that would belie such stylish artwork.

As a result, while Fillmore West '71 does not tarnish the reputation of the Allman Brothers Band, neither does it add much of anything significant to the legacy of the group. As such, it is sorely wanting as due recognition of the group's fiftieth anniversary, ostensibly, the fundamental reason for its conception (if not its execution). Consequently, for both the devout fans of the group as well as curious novices, this release should best function as (one of many) means to the end of the primary source of the Allmans' reputation, those epochal Big Apple performances preserved for posterity that took place roughly six weeks after these, at the east coast counterpart of this hallowed hall.
Track Listing: Disc 1: 1/29/1971 - Statesboro Blues; Trouble No More; Don’t Keep Me Wonderin’; In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed; Midnight Rider; Dreams; You Don’t Love Me; Whipping Post. Disc 2: 1/30/1971Statesboro Blues; Trouble No More; Don’t Keep Me Wonderin’; In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed; Stormy Monday; You Don’t Love Me; Whipping Post. Disc 3: 1/31/1971 Part I - Statesboro Blues; Trouble No More; Don’t Keep Me Wonderin’; In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed; Midnight Rider; Hoochie Coochie Man; Dreams; You Don’t Love Me. Disc 4, 1/31/1971 Part II - Hot ‘Lanta;Whipping Post. Bonus Track: Mountain Jam Live (The Warehouse, New Orleans, LA 3/13/1970).

Personnel: PERSONNEL: Duane Allman: lead and slide guitars; Gregg Allman: vocals, Hammond B3 organ; Dickey Betts: lead guitar; Berry Oakley: bass, vocals; Jaimoe: drums, percussion; Butch Trucks: drums, tympani.

 

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  posted on 9/7/2019 at 10:53 AM
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Glide has posted their review: https://glidemagazine.com/231861/allman-brothers-band-50th-anniversary-cont inues-with-fillmore-west-71-album-review/

Hhmmm....reads suspiciously like the original PR announcement and/or the product description on the merch site!?!?!....begs the question of whether the author actually listened to it (all) !?!?!?

All About Jazz piece posted today is a little less of a puff piece....https://www.allaboutjazz.com/fillmore-west-71-by-doug-collette.php

Just curious, DOVETAIL, are you the author of that review? You link to that site in your profile, are both from the same city, the article covers similar issues that you have raised here, and even contains your HTN handle.

 

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  posted on 9/7/2019 at 11:05 AM
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Just checked, and mine is in the mail as of 9:59 am on Saturday.

Mine shipped about an hour ago.

 

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  posted on 9/7/2019 at 11:53 AM
It shows mine shipped 11:07AM today -

 

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  posted on 9/7/2019 at 12:17 PM
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Glide has posted their review: https://glidemagazine.com/231861/allman-brothers-band-50th-anniversary-cont inues-with-fillmore-west-71-album-review/

Hhmmm....reads suspiciously like the original PR announcement and/or the product description on the merch site!?!?!....begs the question of whether the author actually listened to it (all) !?!?!?

All About Jazz piece posted today is a little less of a puff piece....https://www.allaboutjazz.com/fillmore-west-71-by-doug-collette.php

Just curious, DOVETAIL, are you the author of that review? You link to that site in your profile, are both from the same city, the article covers similar issues that you have raised here, and even contains your HTN handle.


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  posted on 9/7/2019 at 12:18 PM
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Anyone else order this from the Big House site? I got an email for USPS tracking early in the week, but it doesn't appear that it shipped today. I wanted to get it from as close to the source as possible, but hopefully that doesn't mean I am waiting longer than somebody who cut Amazon in on the money. Surely they got them in the mail today, right?


Warehouse fulfillment staff member in conversation with supervisor regarding this misshipment:
"well...it said Allman so..."

 

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  posted on 9/7/2019 at 12:57 PM
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Anyone else order this from the Big House site? I got an email for USPS tracking early in the week, but it doesn't appear that it shipped today. I wanted to get it from as close to the source as possible, but hopefully that doesn't mean I am waiting longer than somebody who cut Amazon in on the money. Surely they got them in the mail today, right?


No offense, but I don't think Amazon doesn't deserve to make a buck on what they do if that's what you mean. Seems to me they provide a service that people are willing to pay for. Works for me.

At any rate, I got mine from Amazon last night. It sounds really, really good. Haven't gotten through the whole thing yet but I like what I hear.

It's too bad that folks that ordered through The Big House have not received theirs. Trust me, you will like it!

 

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  posted on 9/7/2019 at 01:12 PM
RE Big House orders:
Macon might be further inland, but everything down here in the southeast is about a day behind due to Hurricane Dorian. Just speculating.

 

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  posted on 9/8/2019 at 07:26 AM
Over the course of the weekend I listened to the entire thing. My take is that listening to one of the three nights was enough for me. They played pretty much the same set list almost verbatim. Didn't shock me as that was what they did then. I would say listen to one night and the bonus Mountain Jam at the end. I guess that song alone was worth the $40.

The sound was awesome so however they mixed it, they did a great job.

 

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  posted on 9/8/2019 at 08:16 AM
https://bestclassicbands.com/allman-brothers-fillmore-west-6-21-199/
 

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  posted on 9/9/2019 at 09:39 AM
My copy is out for delivery. Thanks to the Big House for the quick shipment even thru the weather challenges.

Looking forward to listening to this.

 

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  posted on 9/9/2019 at 09:40 AM
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This looks to be a press release only, the puff piece likes of which we DON'T need any more this point...(although I have had musicians tell me how frustrating it is to see such info passed off as reviews with little or no editing, i.e., the GlideMag piece?!)

[Edited on 9/9/2019 by DOVETAIL]

 

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  posted on 9/9/2019 at 10:42 AM
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This release that you are complaining about dates and packaging on was ready to go about 10 years ago, give or take a year.

In all seriousness, you should be glad it ever came out at all. I was absolutely shocked when I heard it was finally being released. I had totally given up on this release ever seeing the light of day, it seemed to me that if it hadn't come out by now, it was dead.

The ABB organization went through all the work of compiling this release, then left it sitting on a shelf for a decade, only to finally release it after the band was no longer a going concern. Then the final result has some packaging issues and questions about basic information related to the release, and fans aren't happy.

Yep, that sounds about right, seems like everything is still going according to plan over at HQ! So glad I got out when I did.




Pertinent and practical observations here from a man who would/should know...At the risk of sounding self-serving, I am glad my suspicions are not wholly without foundation.



Not sure if this is the same or not, it's possible some alternate source was found in the meantime, but Captain Skipper worked on all three shows and delivered his work to Kirk in 2005 when Skip attended the ABB Red Rocks concert. I recall Skip mentioning he wasn't sure they'd release it way back then. Had something to do with a dispute/leverage against a record company.

Found a previous comment in a post about lack of mixing credit, which raises my suspicion that this is what Skip worked on. Still, difficult to say.

 

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  posted on 9/9/2019 at 12:22 PM
Entire set is up on the ABB's Youtube page:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_noydtBRLHdiJs7VZs5fKz5HLQj3D_ J4e0

 

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