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  posted on 8/19/2019 at 11:21 AM
I have been listening to them for over a week. My local library has a webpage with access to Freegal Music Service where you can download a handful of songs per week. ABB is one of the featured groups. The rhythm section is on fire. It is good to hear another version of Hot'lanta The recording is not as warm and clean as the Fillmore East shows but what is? Somewhere in my basement I have a Fillmore West bootleg on cassette, I will have to dig it out and see what the date is. They have added a version of Mtn Jam from the Warehouse in New Orleans from 3/13/70. There is a a great setlist from one of the Warehouse shows that needs to be released, it has Revival, Dont Want You no More/ Not my Cross to Bear etc...
 

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fair enough response (at least to a point) and more enlightened than is often the case here...Education!?!?....HAH!?..."All good things in all good time" as the poet once said...

[Edited on 8/19/2019 by DOVETAIL]


Why all the mystery Dove? If you really heard the release version of the CD's why not share your thoughts on the quality with some details other than your previous comment that it is substandard? Why does it suck? ..because Dovetail is a troll. Donít take the bait nor feed it. Even if not trolling, the Dove is entitled to his/her opinion...it doesnít matter; because weíre still going to buy it. A new Duane-era official release to commemorate the 50th is a mandatory purchase. Letís let our ears be the judge. Exciting stuff and hereís hoping BOís Tractor plunking, GAís organ and Jai Ďs cymbals are prominent in the mix! (...and itís pressed to vinyl too!)

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In the big scheme of things it really does not matter. He is certainly entitled to his opinion but he made some cryptic statements alluding to the fact he had heard the CD's already so I was curious where he was coming from and why he felt they sucked. I thought he was a serious fan so wanted his real opinion if he indeed had heard them but I know now I will not get a straight answer so I am done asking.

In any case, we will know the reality come Sept 6th and if they sound as good as the Sirius broadcast I will be a happy camper.

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  posted on 8/19/2019 at 12:21 PM
I love the thing and am happy to have it on CD.

 

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I have been listening to them for over a week. My local library has a webpage with access to Freegal Music Service where you can download a handful of songs per week. ABB is one of the featured groups. The rhythm section is on fire. It is good to hear another version of Hot'lanta The recording is not as warm and clean as the Fillmore East shows but what is? Somewhere in my basement I have a Fillmore West bootleg on cassette, I will have to dig it out and see what the date is. They have added a version of Mtn Jam from the Warehouse in New Orleans from 3/13/70. There is a a great setlist from one of the Warehouse shows that needs to be released, it has Revival, Dont Want You no More/ Not my Cross to Bear etc...


All this material IINMstkn is from the 3/20 Warehouse show -- they were otherwise occupied on 3/13 & a great setlist for sure
My copy of the Fillmore West show compares just fine to most other soundboard boots I have
Can the CD set now be ordered? thought it was next month

 

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  posted on 8/19/2019 at 04:56 PM
3/13 is from 1970, 3/20 is from 1971 -

 

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fair enough response (at least to a point) and more enlightened than is often the case here...Education!?!?....HAH!?..."All good things in all good time" as the poet once said...

[Edited on 8/19/2019 by DOVETAIL]


Why all the mystery Dove? If you really heard the release version of the CD's why not share your thoughts on the quality with some details other than your previous comment that it is substandard? Why does it suck? ..because Dovetail is a troll. Donít take the bait nor feed it. Even if not trolling, the Dove is entitled to his/her opinion...it doesnít matter; because weíre still going to buy it. A new Duane-era official release to commemorate the 50th is a mandatory purchase. Letís let our ears be the judge. Exciting stuff and hereís hoping BOís Tractor plunking, GAís organ and Jai Ďs cymbals are prominent in the mix! (...and itís pressed to vinyl too!)

[Edited on 8/19/2019 by Bill_Graham]





In the big scheme of things it really does not matter. He is certainly entitled to his opinion but he made some cryptic statements alluding to the fact he had heard the CD's already so I was curious where he was coming from and why he felt they sucked. I thought he was a serious fan so wanted his real opinion if he indeed had heard them but I know now I will not get a straight answer so I am done asking.

In any case, we will know the reality come Sept 6th and if they sound as good as the Sirius broadcast I will be a happy camper.

[Edited on 8/19/2019 by Bill_Graham]


I have come to the unfortunate conclusion that I am in fact TOO serious a fan to participate in a straightforward dialogue and exchange of information here. So, I have nothing to say on the packaging except that it virtually screams cheapness the likes of which this band has complained of during their entire career. We should all strive to be the happy warrior that is Alan Paul.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2019 at 08:26 PM
So you can be too serious of a fan of a band to have a conversation with other fans to give them information in a helpful way? You learn something new every day.

Adults on the internet in 2019.


 

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  posted on 8/19/2019 at 08:58 PM
I also have access to the public library streaming site through my local library. Have listened to at least part of each track. You never know what they had to work with as far as the condition of the tapes and the original recording quality... so it's hard to be too critical. However, in my opinion, the front half or so of the set does sound better than back end. The first couple of the nights (roughly) sound pretty good on my computer with some decent Harmon/Kardon speakers. I would say this part is comparable in quality to the recent Owsley Stanley release, maybe just below the "A&R Studio" release from a couple years ago. The end of the second night and the beginning of the third night (roughly) is more in the ballpark of the five archival shows that were released in the early 2000s - worth hearing, if not absolutely perfect. Then it seems like the end of the third night is back up to pretty good quality. The bonus Mountain Jam from the Warehouse show is of lower quality. There is some real tape hiss, at least point where the sound just drops out for a moment, and the cymbals are pretty "tinny" sounding on that one, but there are some unique musical spots in it, too.

I am happy to hear new stuff, and really don't want to complain about them putting anything new out. Just stating my perception of the quality. When those archival series CDs were released, I played them non-stop. I assume I will be able to get some mileage out of this new release as well.

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  posted on 8/20/2019 at 01:55 AM
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So you can be too serious of a fan of a band to have a conversation with other fans to give them information in a helpful way? You learn something new every day.

Adults on the internet in 2019.




It can be an exercise in futility to try and engage in a dialogue with idol worshippers and/or sycophants.One of the unfortunate aspects of adulthood is coming to terms with such frustrations..O bla di O Bla da...

 

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  posted on 8/20/2019 at 08:57 AM
They just released a preview of "Midnight Rider"

https://www.jambase.com/article/allman-brothers-band-midnight-rider-fillmor e-west-71

According to Jambase, this track comes from the first disc. The quality is a little muddy it being a 2-track tape.

 

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  posted on 8/20/2019 at 09:00 AM
Has anyone checked Spotify or Pandora? It may be on all of the streaming sites...
 

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They just released a preview of "Midnight Rider"

https://www.jambase.com/article/allman-brothers-band-midnight-rider-fillmor e-west-71

According to Jambase, this track comes from the first disc. The quality is a little muddy it being a 2-track tape.


That is the point! it is a 2 track SB tape that was most likely sitting in a former band associates closet until recently. It was never recorded originally with any thought of releasing it to the public.

I heard the original Sirius broadcast of the supposed show from the 29th on a decent car audio system and the SQ was similar to the other Duane Era official bootlegs IMHO, which is very listenable. Is it Fillmore East quality? of course not as it is not multitrack.

It amazes me that we get excited when a new poor quality audience recording is unearthed yet when the band releases a decent 2 track SB and some fans (not you) pick it part before it is even released.

We are getting a 4CD, 3 different show, vintage Duane era box set for less than $10 a CD. Isn't that enough to be happy about?

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That is the point! it is a 2 track SB tape that was most likely sitting in a former band associates closet until recently. It was never recorded originally with any thought of releasing it to the public.

I heard the original Sirius broadcast of the supposed show from the 29th on a decent car audio system and the SQ was similar to the other Duane Era official bootlegs IMHO, which is very listenable. Is it Fillmore East quality? of course not as it is not multitrack.


It amazes me that we get excited when a new poor quality audience recording is unearthed yet when the band releases a decent 2 track SB and some fans (not you) pick it part before it is even released.
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  posted on 8/20/2019 at 10:58 PM
"We are getting a 4CD, 3 different show, vintage Duane era box set for less than $10 a CD. Isn't that enough to be happy about?"

I think that this is a good way to look at it.

Back in the mid/late 90s, a few years after I started getting into CDs after years of digging vinyl, a single-disc CD bootleg was $25-30 bucks, and a double-disc CD bootleg was $50 - 60 bucks. I still have some of the ones I bought.

I will probably get this set from Amazon for 43 bucks. I will weigh in after I have heard it, but I do not feel apprehensive about getting my money's worth.

 

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I have been able to listen to more of the full tracks online in the last couple of days, although not all of it yet. I don't feel like it is a rip-off or anything near it. The only people who might be disappointed would be someone who expected it to sound like At Fillmore East . It wasn't my impression from any of the announcement info that it was claimed to be sonic perfection.

It sounds good, but there is a little unevenness across the whole thing and a couple of tape splices(?) where it drops out - that's life. If someone only wants them to put out old stuff that can be cleaned up to the point where it sounds perfect, they probably are going to be bored. One has to assume that perfectly recorded and preserved early stuff may not exist and is the reason the archival stuff has been so limited, for instance, in comparison with the Dead who seem to have a never ending reservoir of shows from which to dump fancy new release packages. We'll have to wait to see if there are packaging issues like the apparently mislabeled dates.

The vast majority of people on here are going to be thrilled to hear it. I am digging it. I ordered the CDs from the Big House online store when it was first announced, I'm glad to be supporting the museum through my purchase as well. No worries...


 

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I have been able to listen to more of the full tracks online in the last couple of days, although not all of it yet. I don't feel like it is a rip-off or anything near it. The only people who might be disappointed would be someone who expected it to sound like At Fillmore East . It wasn't my impression from any of the announcement info that it was claimed to be sonic perfection.

It sounds good, but there is a little unevenness across the whole thing and a couple of tape splices(?) where it drops out - that's life. If someone only wants them to put out old stuff that can be cleaned up to the point where it sounds perfect, they probably are going to be bored. One has to assume that perfectly recorded and preserved early stuff may not exist and is the reason the archival stuff has been so limited, for instance, in comparison with the Dead who seem to have a never ending reservoir of shows from which to dump fancy new release packages. We'll have to wait to see if there are packaging issues like the apparently mislabeled dates.

The vast majority of people on here are going to be thrilled to hear it. I am digging it. I ordered the CDs from the Big House online store when it was first announced, I'm glad to be supporting the museum through my purchase as well. No worries...






what should the dates of this release actually be?

 

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I have been able to listen to more of the full tracks online in the last couple of days, although not all of it yet. I don't feel like it is a rip-off or anything near it. The only people who might be disappointed would be someone who expected it to sound like At Fillmore East . It wasn't my impression from any of the announcement info that it was claimed to be sonic perfection.

It sounds good, but there is a little unevenness across the whole thing and a couple of tape splices(?) where it drops out - that's life. If someone only wants them to put out old stuff that can be cleaned up to the point where it sounds perfect, they probably are going to be bored. One has to assume that perfectly recorded and preserved early stuff may not exist and is the reason the archival stuff has been so limited, for instance, in comparison with the Dead who seem to have a never ending reservoir of shows from which to dump fancy new release packages. We'll have to wait to see if there are packaging issues like the apparently mislabeled dates.

The vast majority of people on here are going to be thrilled to hear it. I am digging it. I ordered the CDs from the Big House online store when it was first announced, I'm glad to be supporting the museum through my purchase as well. No worries...






what should the dates of this release actually be?


Sept 6th was last I heard

 

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I have been able to listen to more of the full tracks online in the last couple of days, although not all of it yet. I don't feel like it is a rip-off or anything near it. The only people who might be disappointed would be someone who expected it to sound like At Fillmore East . It wasn't my impression from any of the announcement info that it was claimed to be sonic perfection.

It sounds good, but there is a little unevenness across the whole thing and a couple of tape splices(?) where it drops out - that's life. If someone only wants them to put out old stuff that can be cleaned up to the point where it sounds perfect, they probably are going to be bored. One has to assume that perfectly recorded and preserved early stuff may not exist and is the reason the archival stuff has been so limited, for instance, in comparison with the Dead who seem to have a never ending reservoir of shows from which to dump fancy new release packages. We'll have to wait to see if there are packaging issues like the apparently mislabeled dates.

The vast majority of people on here are going to be thrilled to hear it. I am digging it. I ordered the CDs from the Big House online store when it was first announced, I'm glad to be supporting the museum through my purchase as well. No worries...






what should the dates of this release actually be?


The CDs are labeled 01/29/71, 01/30/71, and 01/31/71 in the photo on the Big House Museum online store. The question is that they played each night 01/28 through 01/31, so if the first disc is actually the 01/28 show, then either one or two of the discs is mislabeled. One night (either 01/29 or 01/30) got supposedly moved to Winterland Arena, so if the dates are correct, the venue is wrong on one of the discs.


 

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I have been able to listen to more of the full tracks online in the last couple of days, although not all of it yet. I don't feel like it is a rip-off or anything near it. The only people who might be disappointed would be someone who expected it to sound like At Fillmore East . It wasn't my impression from any of the announcement info that it was claimed to be sonic perfection.

It sounds good, but there is a little unevenness across the whole thing and a couple of tape splices(?) where it drops out - that's life. If someone only wants them to put out old stuff that can be cleaned up to the point where it sounds perfect, they probably are going to be bored. One has to assume that perfectly recorded and preserved early stuff may not exist and is the reason the archival stuff has been so limited, for instance, in comparison with the Dead who seem to have a never ending reservoir of shows from which to dump fancy new release packages. We'll have to wait to see if there are packaging issues like the apparently mislabeled dates.

The vast majority of people on here are going to be thrilled to hear it. I am digging it. I ordered the CDs from the Big House online store when it was first announced, I'm glad to be supporting the museum through my purchase as well. No worries...






what should the dates of this release actually be?


The CDs are labeled 01/29/71, 01/30/71, and 01/31/71 in the photo on the Big House Museum online store. The question is that they played each night 01/28 through 01/31, so if the first disc is actually the 01/28 show, then either one or two of the discs is mislabeled. One night (either 01/29 or 01/30) got supposedly moved to Winterland Arena, so if the dates are correct, the venue is wrong on one of the discs.




so at this moment no one knows what is not labeled correctly?

 

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I have been able to listen to more of the full tracks online in the last couple of days, although not all of it yet. I don't feel like it is a rip-off or anything near it. The only people who might be disappointed would be someone who expected it to sound like At Fillmore East . It wasn't my impression from any of the announcement info that it was claimed to be sonic perfection.

It sounds good, but there is a little unevenness across the whole thing and a couple of tape splices(?) where it drops out - that's life. If someone only wants them to put out old stuff that can be cleaned up to the point where it sounds perfect, they probably are going to be bored. One has to assume that perfectly recorded and preserved early stuff may not exist and is the reason the archival stuff has been so limited, for instance, in comparison with the Dead who seem to have a never ending reservoir of shows from which to dump fancy new release packages. We'll have to wait to see if there are packaging issues like the apparently mislabeled dates.

The vast majority of people on here are going to be thrilled to hear it. I am digging it. I ordered the CDs from the Big House online store when it was first announced, I'm glad to be supporting the museum through my purchase as well. No worries...






what should the dates of this release actually be?


The CDs are labeled 01/29/71, 01/30/71, and 01/31/71 in the photo on the Big House Museum online store. The question is that they played each night 01/28 through 01/31, so if the first disc is actually the 01/28 show, then either one or two of the discs is mislabeled. One night (either 01/29 or 01/30) got supposedly moved to Winterland Arena, so if the dates are correct, the venue is wrong on one of the discs.




so at this moment no one knows what is not labeled correctly?


CAREFUL!?!?!?!....Opening THAT can of worms might simultaneously crack some of the fragile eggshell minds around here!?!?!

 

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  posted on 8/21/2019 at 04:00 PM
So... how about that Allman Brothers Band. I hear their pretty good.
 

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I have been able to listen to more of the full tracks online in the last couple of days, although not all of it yet. I don't feel like it is a rip-off or anything near it. The only people who might be disappointed would be someone who expected it to sound like At Fillmore East . It wasn't my impression from any of the announcement info that it was claimed to be sonic perfection.

It sounds good, but there is a little unevenness across the whole thing and a couple of tape splices(?) where it drops out - that's life. If someone only wants them to put out old stuff that can be cleaned up to the point where it sounds perfect, they probably are going to be bored. One has to assume that perfectly recorded and preserved early stuff may not exist and is the reason the archival stuff has been so limited, for instance, in comparison with the Dead who seem to have a never ending reservoir of shows from which to dump fancy new release packages. We'll have to wait to see if there are packaging issues like the apparently mislabeled dates.

The vast majority of people on here are going to be thrilled to hear it. I am digging it. I ordered the CDs from the Big House online store when it was first announced, I'm glad to be supporting the museum through my purchase as well. No worries...






what should the dates of this release actually be?


The CDs are labeled 01/29/71, 01/30/71, and 01/31/71 in the photo on the Big House Museum online store. The question is that they played each night 01/28 through 01/31, so if the first disc is actually the 01/28 show, then either one or two of the discs is mislabeled. One night (either 01/29 or 01/30) got supposedly moved to Winterland Arena, so if the dates are correct, the venue is wrong on one of the discs.




so at this moment no one knows what is not labeled correctly?


We don't have any idea right now due to all the descrepancies.

1. Discs and Tshirts dates are different
2. During the original Sirius broadcast Haynes wife, Stefani Scamardo, was the DJ and she claimed the Fillmore West run started on the 27th which is contrary to the concert poster start date of the 28th.
3. She also said the broadcast was from the 29th and was the third show so this implies the first show was the 27th which she commented they had not found a tape for.
4. Before "Don't Keep Me Wondering?" in the broadcast Duane says they enjoyed the first three nights and they would enjoy this one or something to that effect. So I am wondering if this tape is from the following night which would be the 30th if the first date was the 28th.

Maybe one of the hardcore collectors here will compare their personal tapes to the official release and sort it out but for now the mystery continues.

[Edited on 8/21/2019 by Bill_Graham]

 

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I have been able to listen to more of the full tracks online in the last couple of days, although not all of it yet. I don't feel like it is a rip-off or anything near it. The only people who might be disappointed would be someone who expected it to sound like At Fillmore East . It wasn't my impression from any of the announcement info that it was claimed to be sonic perfection.

It sounds good, but there is a little unevenness across the whole thing and a couple of tape splices(?) where it drops out - that's life. If someone only wants them to put out old stuff that can be cleaned up to the point where it sounds perfect, they probably are going to be bored. One has to assume that perfectly recorded and preserved early stuff may not exist and is the reason the archival stuff has been so limited, for instance, in comparison with the Dead who seem to have a never ending reservoir of shows from which to dump fancy new release packages. We'll have to wait to see if there are packaging issues like the apparently mislabeled dates.

The vast majority of people on here are going to be thrilled to hear it. I am digging it. I ordered the CDs from the Big House online store when it was first announced, I'm glad to be supporting the museum through my purchase as well. No worries...






what should the dates of this release actually be?


The CDs are labeled 01/29/71, 01/30/71, and 01/31/71 in the photo on the Big House Museum online store. The question is that they played each night 01/28 through 01/31, so if the first disc is actually the 01/28 show, then either one or two of the discs is mislabeled. One night (either 01/29 or 01/30) got supposedly moved to Winterland Arena, so if the dates are correct, the venue is wrong on one of the discs.




so at this moment no one knows what is not labeled correctly?


We don't have any idea right now due to all the descrepancies.

1. Discs and Tshirts dates are different
2. During the original Sirius broadcast Haynes wife, Stefani Scamardo, was the DJ and she claimed the Fillmore West run started on the 27th which is contrary to the concert poster start date of the 28th.
3. She also said the broadcast was from the 29th and was the third show so this implies the first show was the 27th which she commented they had not found a tape for.
4. Before "Don't Keep Me Wondering?" in the broadcast Duane says they enjoyed the first three nights and they would enjoy this one or something to that effect. So I am wondering if this tape is from the following night which would be the 30th if the first date was the 28th.

Maybe one of the hardcore collectors here will compare their personal tapes to the official release and sort it out but for now the mystery continues.

[Edited on 8/21/2019 by Bill_Graham]


Gosh, don't wanna sound disingenuous or unreasonable here----especially in light of previous discussions on the topic in this very thread---but would it not be the responsibility of the producers of this package to thoroughly research those details In pre-production, before manufacturing?! I am having the most difficult time understanding why the curators would not apply a rigor to their efforts comparable to that which the band applied to its music. And please don't hint or come right out and say such effort is not worth the time and/or money in proportion to the potential sales:by that logic, this package should be budget-priced!?!?!

 

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I have been able to listen to more of the full tracks online in the last couple of days, although not all of it yet. I don't feel like it is a rip-off or anything near it. The only people who might be disappointed would be someone who expected it to sound like At Fillmore East . It wasn't my impression from any of the announcement info that it was claimed to be sonic perfection.

It sounds good, but there is a little unevenness across the whole thing and a couple of tape splices(?) where it drops out - that's life. If someone only wants them to put out old stuff that can be cleaned up to the point where it sounds perfect, they probably are going to be bored. One has to assume that perfectly recorded and preserved early stuff may not exist and is the reason the archival stuff has been so limited, for instance, in comparison with the Dead who seem to have a never ending reservoir of shows from which to dump fancy new release packages. We'll have to wait to see if there are packaging issues like the apparently mislabeled dates.

The vast majority of people on here are going to be thrilled to hear it. I am digging it. I ordered the CDs from the Big House online store when it was first announced, I'm glad to be supporting the museum through my purchase as well. No worries...






what should the dates of this release actually be?


The CDs are labeled 01/29/71, 01/30/71, and 01/31/71 in the photo on the Big House Museum online store. The question is that they played each night 01/28 through 01/31, so if the first disc is actually the 01/28 show, then either one or two of the discs is mislabeled. One night (either 01/29 or 01/30) got supposedly moved to Winterland Arena, so if the dates are correct, the venue is wrong on one of the discs.




so at this moment no one knows what is not labeled correctly?


We don't have any idea right now due to all the descrepancies.

1. Discs and Tshirts dates are different
2. During the original Sirius broadcast Haynes wife, Stefani Scamardo, was the DJ and she claimed the Fillmore West run started on the 27th which is contrary to the concert poster start date of the 28th.
3. She also said the broadcast was from the 29th and was the third show so this implies the first show was the 27th which she commented they had not found a tape for.
4. Before "Don't Keep Me Wondering?" in the broadcast Duane says they enjoyed the first three nights and they would enjoy this one or something to that effect. So I am wondering if this tape is from the following night which would be the 30th if the first date was the 28th.

Maybe one of the hardcore collectors here will compare their personal tapes to the official release and sort it out but for now the mystery continues.

[Edited on 8/21/2019 by Bill_Graham]



thanks. i guess we'll know soon enough

 

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I have been able to listen to more of the full tracks online in the last couple of days, although not all of it yet. I don't feel like it is a rip-off or anything near it. The only people who might be disappointed would be someone who expected it to sound like At Fillmore East . It wasn't my impression from any of the announcement info that it was claimed to be sonic perfection.

It sounds good, but there is a little unevenness across the whole thing and a couple of tape splices(?) where it drops out - that's life. If someone only wants them to put out old stuff that can be cleaned up to the point where it sounds perfect, they probably are going to be bored. One has to assume that perfectly recorded and preserved early stuff may not exist and is the reason the archival stuff has been so limited, for instance, in comparison with the Dead who seem to have a never ending reservoir of shows from which to dump fancy new release packages. We'll have to wait to see if there are packaging issues like the apparently mislabeled dates.

The vast majority of people on here are going to be thrilled to hear it. I am digging it. I ordered the CDs from the Big House online store when it was first announced, I'm glad to be supporting the museum through my purchase as well. No worries...






what should the dates of this release actually be?


The CDs are labeled 01/29/71, 01/30/71, and 01/31/71 in the photo on the Big House Museum online store. The question is that they played each night 01/28 through 01/31, so if the first disc is actually the 01/28 show, then either one or two of the discs is mislabeled. One night (either 01/29 or 01/30) got supposedly moved to Winterland Arena, so if the dates are correct, the venue is wrong on one of the discs.




so at this moment no one knows what is not labeled correctly?


We don't have any idea right now due to all the descrepancies.

1. Discs and Tshirts dates are different
2. During the original Sirius broadcast Haynes wife, Stefani Scamardo, was the DJ and she claimed the Fillmore West run started on the 27th which is contrary to the concert poster start date of the 28th.
3. She also said the broadcast was from the 29th and was the third show so this implies the first show was the 27th which she commented they had not found a tape for.
4. Before "Don't Keep Me Wondering?" in the broadcast Duane says they enjoyed the first three nights and they would enjoy this one or something to that effect. So I am wondering if this tape is from the following night which would be the 30th if the first date was the 28th.

Maybe one of the hardcore collectors here will compare their personal tapes to the official release and sort it out but for now the mystery continues.

[Edited on 8/21/2019 by Bill_Graham]



thanks. i guess we'll know soon enough


Not unless the packaging and/or content is altered!?!?!

 
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