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  posted on 5/3/2019 at 03:10 PM
he doesn't just look like him anymore

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  posted on 5/3/2019 at 03:17 PM
Holy Smoke you aren't kidding!

 

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  posted on 5/3/2019 at 08:18 PM
Great stuff thanks for sharing. Got tickets to the Lowell Ma show in June yesterday. Really looking forward to it.

 

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  posted on 5/4/2019 at 12:48 PM
That is pretty good.
 

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  posted on 5/6/2019 at 10:39 AM
Duane Betts went from just an okay guitar player to a great player while he was with Dawes.

When I first heard Duane had been invited to join Dawes I thought "why would a snappy young band want him? Duane did some okay guitar solos with the ABB on Dreams and Samething and in the 2000s with Great Southern it was clear he didn't have the chops to be the other lead player and Duane actually wasn't. Dickey had other guitar players including Dan Toler to play twin lead with.

I took a careful listen to Devon and Duane on YouTube this weekend and Duane Betts and Devon too and the other young man, Stachela, are real players now. They could stand next to Clapton or Billy Gibbons or John Bonamassa or Derek Trucks and not be worried they would get blown off the stage.

 

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  posted on 5/6/2019 at 10:41 AM
Awesome!!!
 

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  posted on 5/6/2019 at 10:49 AM
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I took a careful listen to Devon and Duane on YouTube this weekend and Duane Betts and Devon too and the other young man, Stachela, are real players now. They could stand next to Clapton or Billy Gibbons or John Bonamassa or Derek Trucks and not be worried they would get blown off the stage.


As a player for over 40 years now, I am going to have to disagree with you here. First and foremost we disagree big time about the skill set of Billy Gibbons, nowhere near the ability of EC. While I agree that Duane Betts has grown exponentially as a guitarist, he is pretty one dimensional. Mr. Stachela has found a groove as a competent slide player and Devon is all facial expressions and no feel. Not all guitar players and their abilities are judged solely on their ability to play classic ABB songs. There is a huge world of music and style out there that ventures into classical, jazz, bluegrass and finger picking.

Imho, you want to have a discussion about "Real players"? Let's start with Tommy Emmanuel and go from there...

 

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  posted on 5/6/2019 at 11:18 AM
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So you are saying you think that Duane Betts, Devon Allman, and Stachela are hacks?


Where did I write that and use those words? I eagerly await your quoting me.

Your interpretation and stated opinion appear to be nothing more than attempt to start an argument in a thread where I have used what some may feel are flattering terms like "Exponential growth" and "Finding a groove"...Just an opinion my friend and if you had not noticed, this is not the Whippin' Post.

 

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  posted on 5/6/2019 at 11:32 AM
Wow! Great stuff. I never expected much from this band but these videos are starting to change my mind. Let’s keep the positive vibes going...... thanks for sharing!
 

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  posted on 5/6/2019 at 12:39 PM
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Where did I write that and use those words? I eagerly await your quoting me.


You didn't say "hacks", I realized the word was too strong so I deleted my post right away but you copied it before I did so.

Your post seemed to be saying you don't consider the guitar players in question to be "real players". To me a musician who is not a "real player" is a hack.

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Pretty one dimensional


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competent


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All facial expressions and no feel


Not exactly glowing reviews.






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  posted on 5/6/2019 at 02:41 PM
I like the solo on one of dads premier songs and respect he has come a long ways. I have high hopes
in a few more years they will play almost as well as the band (members) that I love so much.
Keeping my fingers crossed, Blackey wow, dishing out some serious praise.

 

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  posted on 5/6/2019 at 03:00 PM
Looking forward to these guys bringing their music to the northwest. Have heard some great reports from folks who went to the shows, rave-ups in fact.
 

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  posted on 5/6/2019 at 03:07 PM
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Where did I write that and use those words? I eagerly await your quoting me.


You didn't say "hacks", I realized the word was too strong so I deleted my post right away but you copied it before I did so.

Your post seemed to be saying you don't consider the guitar players in question to be "real players". To me a musician who is not a "real player" is a hack.

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Pretty one dimensional


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competent


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All facial expressions and no feel


Not exactly glowing reviews.

Edited on 5/6/2019 by BrerRabbit]


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  posted on 5/6/2019 at 05:26 PM
Thx for the link jones, also blackey for the eval - when the earlier vids came out I was not impressed at all, pretty much ignored these guys, until a friend back east saw them last year and insisted, forget youtube you gotta hear them live, they have that magic ABB vibe. Now seeing blackeys write up since he is a spoiled original line-up lucky dog who wouldnt countenance a weak imitation of the ABB tradition . . . I will buy the ticket when they come around, for sure!
 

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  posted on 5/6/2019 at 05:28 PM
As an old ABB fan (as obviously most of us are) the new ABB is a breath of fresh air. The boys seem to have a healthy respect for their lineage and want to also do their own thing. It is very cool to watch Duane play Jessica or Blue Sky, and for Devon to play Melissa or Midnight Rider. It is very cool to see Berry Oakley Jr playing the bass with energy and fun spirit.

I'd go see these guys in a heartbeat, and will. I think the big question is what kind of audience can they muster outside of the existing ABB audience. Their concert experience appears to be fun and from reviews I read, people are getting a lot more than they expected. Do they graduate to a genre similar to the Mule, or Tedeschi Trucks, or something else? I don't know. I do wish them the best though

 

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  posted on 5/6/2019 at 08:22 PM
BIGV BrerRabbit .

I didn't mean to indicate Billy Gibbons was Eric Clapton or that the 3 guitar players in the Allman Betts Band can play a 15 song show trading licks with people like Eric Johnson or Gary Moore or Eddie Van Halen or Steve Via. Well Moore is dead so that wasn't a good choice.

I'm saying unlike the Duane Betts I was seeing at Allman Brothers shows sitting in on a couple of songs each night, the way Duane is playing now he could do a solo on a blues song or a Layla album song next to Clapton and not get blown off the stage.

Just as Warren and Derek held their own with Clapton in 2009 at the Beacon. I am huge Warren and Derek Trucks fan but even I know they will never be a big as Clapton. Clapton is bigger than the Allman Brothers for that matter. Clapton is one of the premier guitarists in the world who has sold millions and millions of records and worth 300 million dollars. Warren and Derek will never equal that but neither will most very good guitar players.

 

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  posted on 5/6/2019 at 10:14 PM
Thx man - Nah you were clear. I got it the first time round, they could hold their own without getting blown off stage. Not hard to understand. Thanks for the consideration though.
 

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  posted on 5/7/2019 at 08:44 AM
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Just as Warren and Derek held their own with Clapton in 2009 at the Beacon. I am huge Warren and Derek Trucks fan but even I know they will never be a big as Clapton. Clapton is bigger than the Allman Brothers for that matter. Clapton is one of the premier guitarists in the world who has sold millions and millions of records and worth 300 million dollars. Warren and Derek will never equal that but neither will most very good guitar players.


I love Clapton. He is definitely “bigger” than the ABB, Warren, and Derek, as far as success goes. Is Clapton “better” than they are at guitar? I’d say no. I say they are all pretty much on the same level.

 

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  posted on 5/7/2019 at 08:52 AM
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Just as Warren and Derek held their own with Clapton in 2009 at the Beacon. I am huge Warren and Derek Trucks fan but even I know they will never be a big as Clapton. Clapton is bigger than the Allman Brothers for that matter. Clapton is one of the premier guitarists in the world who has sold millions and millions of records and worth 300 million dollars. Warren and Derek will never equal that but neither will most very good guitar players.


I love Clapton. He is definitely “bigger” than the ABB, Warren, and Derek, as far as success goes. Is Clapton “better” than they are at guitar? I’d say no. I say they are all pretty much on the same level.


I think Clapton got out of the gate like a thoroughbred in the 60s and was then caught and passed by quite a few players. His career was dead in the water 'til his appearance on MTV's "Unplugged". Jeff Beck is an absolute beast but never received the kudos because he was never a radio star....Imho, he is waaaay "better" than EC. Derek Trucks is more proficient than EC ...But. once again. most have a difficult time separating a "Grammy" award winner and record sales from "True" ability....

 

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  posted on 5/7/2019 at 09:45 AM
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His career was dead in the water 'til his appearance on MTV's "Unplugged".


Not at all true, both Journeyman and 24 Nights were pretty solid hits, got a lot of radio airplay along with some solid touring. Even his 1980s albums that no one really remembers charted well. Never mind that "Tears in Heaven" was a hit single off of the Rush soundtrack the year before Unplugged.

I never really buy this guitar ranking business, some players are better at certain things than others, it's all subjective. How 'bout we all agree that Duane Betts has become a pretty solid guitar player after 15 years on the road?

 

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  posted on 5/7/2019 at 12:20 PM
Got one of these for my birthday:


 

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  posted on 5/7/2019 at 05:57 PM
Mr. Dickey Betts...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZg9MWLQ5_c

 

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  posted on 5/7/2019 at 08:48 PM
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I think Clapton got out of the gate like a thoroughbred in the 60s and was then caught and passed by quite a few players. His career was dead in the water 'til his appearance on MTV's "Unplugged". Jeff Beck is an absolute beast but never received the kudos because he was never a radio star....Imho, he is waaaay "better" than EC. Derek Trucks is more proficient than EC ...But. once again. most have a difficult time separating a "Grammy" award winner and record sales from "True" ability....


I don’t know where to begin here. Other than, if you’re not a Clapton fan that all good. But, don’t lose credibility by completely trashing him. He’s not everyone’s cup of tea - nobody is - but he’s damn damn good, and IMHO deserves the pedestal upon which he’s often put.

I can’t quite figure out how someone could, with intellectual integrity, challenge Clapton’s skill/chops/whatever.

 

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  posted on 5/8/2019 at 10:23 AM
CMG x2, Cream, Blind Faith, Derek Dominoes, etc, EC is simply a beast. Yeah I get it not everyone's favorite but
solo career is also note worthy. The man has had more up and downs (addiction, broken marriages, losing a child) an yet continues.

 

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  posted on 5/8/2019 at 10:29 AM
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I think Clapton got out of the gate like a thoroughbred in the 60s and was then caught and passed by quite a few players. His career was dead in the water 'til his appearance on MTV's "Unplugged". Jeff Beck is an absolute beast but never received the kudos because he was never a radio star....Imho, he is waaaay "better" than EC. Derek Trucks is more proficient than EC ...But. once again. most have a difficult time separating a "Grammy" award winner and record sales from "True" ability....


I don’t know where to begin here. Other than, if you’re not a Clapton fan that all good. But, don’t lose credibility by completely trashing him. He’s not everyone’s cup of tea - nobody is - but he’s damn damn good, and IMHO deserves the pedestal upon which he’s often put.

I can’t quite figure out how someone could, with intellectual integrity, challenge Clapton’s skill/chops/whatever.


I like EC, seen him in every decade, going to Phx in Sept to catch him again.....The man is a legend and there is no questioning his skills; don't see him as the best ever.

 

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