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Author: Subject: Do You Trust William Barr To be fair, just and honest?

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  posted on 5/1/2019 at 07:22 PM
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Well, now that Barr has lied under oath and misled the American People, it's pretty obvious he is just another one one Trump's scumbucket minions, I believe we will see the whole sleazy house cards begin to crumble, quite possibly again leading back to impeachment? .............Peace.........joe


April 9th at House Judiciary or today? I think perjury would be a difficult conclusion. Clearly however he was not as forthcoming as he could've or should've been if we are taking about how he responded to the question about people expressing opposition to his characterization of Mueller's finding by not revealing Mueller had himself written a letter.

Barr is at the plate to bat for the President no doubt. Whether he actually lied or not sounds in question to me.


Most of his answers were laced with obfuscation. His actions to date and his words are calculated. Much of his "performance" as a reality TV AG today was an embarassment. I do think he lied at will.

He wanted to dictate terms of his testimony to the HOR tomorrow as he is afraid of the questioning. He now pu$$ey out and will not testify. What is he afraid of...the truth? I hope he's held in contempt although not sure where that will go.

 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 10:43 AM
It's disheartening to read through these posts. Many lack logic and reason and only a fool argues with fools, but I'll admit I'm tempted.
 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 10:58 AM
Ok, so just hit and run on a thread where for once differing views are posted in a civil fashion and call the folks you disagree with "fools."


 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 11:05 AM
Can I bow out gracefully and just delete it?
 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 11:34 AM
Lol, nah. Just some Indignian arrows flying by. fffft, ffffft.
 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 11:51 AM
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Barr is at the plate to bat for the President no doubt.


Death of the independent judiciary to own the libs!

 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 12:04 PM
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Barr is at the plate to bat for the President no doubt.


Death of the independent judiciary to own the libs!


 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 12:27 PM
Awwww, look. The resident free-thinking libertarian is perfectly fine with an AG not even reading evidence before reaching a conclusion!

For all the support you've given veterans and their sacrifice over the years, Vince, it's shocking that there's evidence (that the Attorney General of the United States won't even read by his own admission) that Russia interfered with an American election and you don't care...because you hate the left more.

Libertarians now proclaiming Presidents above the law...strange times indeed.

 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 12:31 PM
Kamala Harris definitely got the better of Barr yesterday.
 

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Kamala Harris definitely got the better of Barr yesterday.


Where? She looked like an idiot?

 

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Alright, Call me a fool. I do this against my better judgement.

We live in odd times. First off I'm an Independent. I'm a 33 year Union guy who was a long term Democrat. I've watched the political poisoning of the party and jumped ship. They don't represent the people or the constitution. They all seem to be better Hollywood actors or politicians. I'd even argue than "Jessie" Smullett and others. I'm sure they've all taken acting lessons. Perhaps from Robert DuhNiro in his platform shoes? Napoleon complex? Gene Simmons would fear heights wearing Lil Bobby's shoes.

Is Nadler's eyebrow a Hollywood prop? I think his belt is too tight above his rib cage and it's making Mayor McCheesy light headed (I know he's a Congressman, I'm going for humor here, I thought of the Mayor Of Munchkin City from the Wizard Of Oz too, both images with Nadlers face had me smiling).

My problem is I can ramble on for days with the thoughts that bounce around my head as I witness this madness. I agree history will judge these participants and some will go down as major biased political buffoons who should never have been in office and benefitted from what state they run in.

There were 230K registered Democrats in the 14th District of NY and AOC upset Crowley when only 1 in 10 voters showed up (28K voted only 11.8%). When massive amounts of no show voters get caught up in living their lives and let our political office holders run on auto pilot what we get are dumb ass representatives running our country. They then can attack a sitting President and state that their constituents want these idiotic actions and policies when it was an incidental achievement that they're now in office. We've lost control of the American narrative. Our Nation is in a downward spiral. It's "disheartening" and "foolish" what is going on. The Democrats now want to change the electoral college. The heartland should now have no say in Presidential elections? with full control going to the likes of California and NY. How long before needles and human waste on Main St is common all over America.

Nadler (Mayor Of Munchkinland) wanted to protect these buffoonish committee leaders like AOC, Rashida Talib, and others. They morons looked like "fools" when they tried to confront Candice Owens. You bet your sweet ass they don't want them going toe to toe against Mr. Barr. Nadler looked like a biased inept bozo when he bumbled that Candice Owens committee interaction.

Robert Mueller was a Democratic tool that couldn't deliver for them. His 18 member Democratic team found nothing worthwhile. They cleared him of collusion. It's laughable how they (and others here) want to focus on the Trump Tower meeting which was to offer dirt on HRC, but became about adoptions and a Democratic ploy in this game of Political "Gotcha".

How can Adam Schiff (for brains) be considered seriously when he was major league duped by some Howard Stern wannebes from some Russian Radio Station, "We have pictures of naked Trump, Ol' dopey Schiff immediately got a semi and will have his people grab them. Isn't that the same thing the Trump Tower meeting was trying to accomplish? but Schiff was broadcast across Russian Radio for the world to hear what F' up's we've elected. HE should resign from the Intelligence Committee as he has none.


The whole Democratic team set up the meetings with Popodopalis and Don Jr. Simpson GPS met before and after we the key players. Things are being ignored because they don't fit the narrative.


Mueller will go down as a coward and political hack. He sold his soul and his reputation for the "greater Democratic" cause. Mr. Barr who just came into office was attacked with no justification. Crazy Mazie Horono is an embarrassment to Hawaii. The trio of Booker, Harris, & Klobachar tried their best on their own little question segments to provide a political ad to help their 3 failing campaigns for President.


Mueller was asked if he wanted to review Mr. Barr's principle conclusions release and he said no. When Mr. Barr put out the 4 page overview. Meuller band of merrymen wrote the "snitty" letter to Mr. Barr stating how they wanted their 16 page overview that could pass on their negative spin for them. Mr. Barr did not bite. He called Mueller and asked "What's the problem Bob?, Do you have issues with my 4 page overview? Is there anything inaccurate?" and his response was "Oh no, No problem with you Bob, We're good, It was that the press isn't saying our narrative". Mr. Barr like a man gave his long time friend a call to discuss any problem. Thankfully he had Rosenstein and a few staff members taking notes to document the call which was on speaker for the room to hear. What did Mueller do (or allow his team to do?), He signed off on a 2nd letter being sent with the expressed purpose of leaking it to the press to still try to push the narrative. He is a coward and a biased political operative. Mr. Barr has told Congress he has no issues with Mueller appearing before them. He should bring his whole 18 member of biased narrative pushers to help him. This was never about justice. This was never about a fair process. If Mueller had put some Republicans or Independents on his special council this wouldn't have the stench that it does. Trump was right to be concerned with conflicts of interest and isn't that obvious? or is that obvious to only those who want to step back and be impartial. It is a National Embarrassmet to have these so called Representatives of the people to "Misrepresent" the people and our constitution. Our Forefathers could never have seen this coming or perhaps they did and gave it's citizens to bear arms in order to rise up against these idiots. Perhaps they were wiser than we knew?


The Democrats need to let their chosen representatives question Mr. Barr and expose themselves. The American Voters did not elect their staff to take pot shots at the AG. They should ask anything they want and prove any point they want and when they fail they should suffer the consequences in the ballot box, but most likely the "glasses of water" next to the D on the election tickets will still be in power because the flawed narratives are what's being pushed. Pushed Hollywood, the media, and the sheople who bought in. They have brought my life's choices to a better place, I avoid them and their idiocy. It gives me more time to coexist with my guitars and music. A silver lining on every cloud.

I'm personally embarrassed by a Nation that voted in Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Omar Ilhan, Rashida Talib, AOC, and a whole cast of clowns. They're the living arguments against Democracy.

 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 12:57 PM
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because you hate the left more.


Hate is a pretty strong word, but yes I believe the left is lost....

 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 01:01 PM
You are not alone Sir.

We need term limits. It's never been more evident.

 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 01:17 PM
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Kamala Harris definitely got the better of Barr yesterday.


Where? She looked like an idiot?


She had Barr reeling. Probably more than anyone else, I thought her line of questioning showed Barr isn't much more than a mouthpiece for the President and was predisposed to a finding of no obstruction before the report had been delivered. Like Bhawk said, Barr admitted he didn't read any of the evidence. That is rather shocking don't you think? All this talk about lying under oath, that was a pretty big truth that is more damning than any of the supposed lies I think.

 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 01:30 PM
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I'm personally embarrassed by a Nation that voted in Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Omar Ilhan, Rashida Talib, AOC, and a whole cast of clowns. They're the living arguments against Democracy.


I'm personally embarrassed by every Republican in America that supports Trump. So there you go.

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They have brought my life's choices to a better place, I avoid them and their idiocy. It gives me more time to coexist with my guitars and music. A silver lining on every cloud.


I've tried very hard to get every conservative out of my life that I can for two years. It's been amazing.

 

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I'm personally embarrassed by a Nation that voted in Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Omar Ilhan, Rashida Talib, AOC, and a whole cast of clowns. They're the living arguments against Democracy.


I'm personally embarrassed by every Republican in America that supports Trump. So there you go.


Well I hate to say it Bhawk, I know the feeling, I care about some of these Folks, they seem wacked!!!............Peace........joe

 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 01:54 PM
He read enough. The Mueller team of all Democrats had one mission. To take down Trump. $25+ Million dollars later with all the subpoenas, and all the man hours, with the full threat of the law which was bent and twisted for the stated purpose of taking down Trump they failed. It was a hoax.

You know these Democratic operatives on this mission were in touch with the party power's that be and tried to maximize the minimal outcome. They came up with new ways to twist the empty outcome. "We couldn't prove anything, but we couldn't EXONERATE??????" Heh? Once Barr read "we don't have the goods to indict" he applied "The Law" and read what the Mueller report actually said. Mr. Trump did not collude, Mr. Trump did not obstruct justice. If anything the "special" council proved it was an Injustice.

Past irrelevant crimes by Cohen and Manafort allowed lawyer/client privileges to be revoked. Those "fruits of the poisonous tree" items were passed on to SDNY and other biased State Gov's to follow up. Good God where is the outrage?

The "special" council tried their damdest but came up empty. Period.

Mr. Barr didn't read the "comeyesque" 16 page waste of taxpayer dollars that was their last ditch best effort "narrative" to prolong the buffoonery. He did include it fully in the public report. Period.


Mr Barr said he'd supply everything he could and he did. He should be commended for his transparency. Period.

Mr. Barr was asked if he knew what Mueller's issues were He said he didn't as Mueller himself said he didn't any yet a "snitty" letter by his Biased Band Of Bozo's sent a letter in his name. He stated he did not.

What is happening now is appalling. They dishonor us all as Americans.





[Edited on 5/2/2019 by Fretsman]

 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 01:56 PM
Sometimes IQ's can be gauged in 180 characters or less.


 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 01:57 PM
and yes I have proven my own point..... I am a Fool.






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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 02:07 PM
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Sometimes IQ's can be gauged in 180 characters or less.




Given the amount that Trump tweets every day while heís watching Fox, thatís a pretty telling statement.

Every single person who has ever held any office is open to criticism. Trump, not so?

Even if Trump had zero to do with it, even if he never met one Russian in his life, the Russians interfered in the last election. Half the country doesnít care. Sad!

 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 02:11 PM
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Don't mean to sound pedantic, sorry. There's another lawyer on here who makes thoughtful comments but seems to have been eaten by trolls. He's never around anymore.


There's a few who have made that choice.

 

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Given the amount that Trump tweets every day while heís watching Fox, thatís a pretty telling statement.

Every single person who has ever held any office is open to criticism. Trump, not so?

Even if Trump had zero to do with it, even if he never met one Russian in his life, the Russians interfered in the last election. Half the country doesnít care. Sad!


Is this deemed "fair criticism? Far from it. Is this a solution? It is not.

Trump has given us all reason to criticize him. He will not be canonized for Sainthood, but if the Dem's get their way he will be cannonized. I feel he is the best option to do what's needed. Smart people would give him his 6 years to make our trade deals fair and our standing in the world safe.

Russia and Cuba are propping up Maduro on our continent. They would love to get a military base on common soil. They want socialism and are looking to protect their own control of their own people. Trump is trying to balance options and needs the country's support.

We fail ourselves when we fail our elected President no matter if they dress in blue ties or red.

We're all Americans aren't we?

The administration is doing what the last administration did not, Independently speaking.

 

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  posted on 5/2/2019 at 02:29 PM
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We've lost control of the American narrative. Our Nation is in a downward spiral. It's "disheartening" and "foolish" what is going on.


So heís NOT making America great again? If you feel this way under Trump, then your future looks grim.

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The Mueller team of all Democrats had one mission. To take down Trump. $25+ Million dollars later with all the subpoenas, and all the man hours, with the full threat of the law which was bent and twisted for the stated purpose of taking down Trump they failed.


His mission was to conduct an investigation, not ďbring Trump downĒ. You are only revealing an emotional meltdown and a complete lack of understanding about what the special counselís purpose was.

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Mueller will go down as a coward and political hack. He sold his soul and his reputation for the "greater Democratic" cause.


You are disparaging a decorated war hero (and a Republican) who has committed his life to serving us, all because you donít like Democratic values. This is far from normal.

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and yes I have proven my own point..... I am a Fool.


Iím surprised whenever grown men still play the scapegoat game. Itís the height of laziness when oneís only point is ďI donít like that party and I blame them.Ē Maybe thatís why you feel foolish about the rant?

 

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I'm personally embarrassed by a Nation that voted in Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Omar Ilhan, Rashida Talib, AOC, and a whole cast of clowns. They're the living arguments against Democracy.


I'm personally embarrassed by every Republican in America that supports Trump. So there you go.


Seems to be the Liberal/Leftist/Democratic mantra, no matter what the hatred of the President "trumps" all else.

Pretty sad and if the left hopes to gain the WH in 2020 there better be more to your platform than embarrassment.

 

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Some people were unhappy with Obama in office, and now they are still unhappy with Trump in office. Maybe they are just unhappy no matter what, and they use ďDemsĒ as their scapegoat because itís easier than examining why everything bothers them.
 
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