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  posted on 2/1/2019 at 04:22 PM
Yes it will happen this Tuesday. As I mentioned in the one of the shutdown threads he has already warned he may invoke the National Emergency Declaration and he has said we should listen very carefully to the message.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/428064-trump-good-chance-i-will -declare-emergency-to-build-wall

"The president suggested he may reveal more details about his plan to build the wall in Tuesday's State of the Union address, saying people should “listen closely” to the speech."


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Just giving you the heads up on when the speech is, and perhaps those who did not intend to listen, should since he is telling us we should "listen closely", it seems quite serious.

 

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Yes it will happen this Tuesday. As I mentioned in the one of the shutdown threads he has already warned he may invoke the National Emergency Declaration and he has said we should listen very carefully to the message.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/428064-trump-good-chance-i-will -declare-emergency-to-build-wall

"The president suggested he may reveal more details about his plan to build the wall in Tuesday's State of the Union address, saying people should “listen closely” to the speech."


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Just giving you the heads up on when the speech is, and perhaps those who did not intend to listen, should since he is telling us we should "listen closely", it seems quite serious.


Thanks for the heads up but if I want to watch and listen to an orangutan demand center stage and act like well, an orangutan, I'll go to the zoo.

 

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  posted on 2/2/2019 at 01:18 PM
I would sooner listen to a homeless person raving in a doorway.
 

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  posted on 2/4/2019 at 03:11 PM
Most believe and he has hinted he will declare a National Emergency. With the deployment of more troops to the border, 3 caravans including one large one 12,000 people coming, this is NOT a trivial issue.

I do think though Speaker Pelosi may have a valid point, that there should be more LEGAL ports of entry for those who legitamately want to come to build a better life for themselves. Many may have transferable skills and could work on helping to build actual communities, dig solar powered wells to irrigate desert scrub-type land, develop irrigation, use their farming skills, or work on some of the pipelines and even helping to build the wind power energy projects that are going to be built. People who know how to work with land, can work in construction, landscaping, real estate construction development. They just need some additional training.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2019 at 10:35 AM
The dems have teamed up with the boogerman and only DONALD TRUMP CAN SAVE US.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2019 at 10:35 PM
Great speech!

 

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  posted on 2/5/2019 at 10:44 PM
Terrible rebuttal. Just reading a script

 

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  posted on 2/5/2019 at 10:55 PM
Deep Thoughts.....by OriginalGoober. Time to put this in the “no one cares” file.
 

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  posted on 2/5/2019 at 10:56 PM
Way too long and grim.

 

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Way too long and grim.


That's what she said...

 

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  posted on 2/6/2019 at 08:33 AM
Most ridiculous line of the speech follows:

"An economic miracle is taking place in the United States -- and the only thing that can stop it are foolish wars, politics or ridiculous partisan investigations. If there is going to be peace and legislation, there cannot be war and investigation. It just doesn't work that way!"


 

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  posted on 2/6/2019 at 10:21 AM
I am pretty sure that I don't laugh nearly enough anymore, so when I got home from work late last evening and watched the highlights and read a little bit, it felt good to get a few chuckles, both at the idiotic and redundant spiel by Trump and by Pelosi's reactions and helping him look even more foolish ..........Peace............
 

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  posted on 2/6/2019 at 10:23 AM
im sure glad that he saved us from that war with nkorea.
I noticed the cheers from republicans over his crime reform when they were the ones who pushed the "tough on crime" stance that started the mess. Thats all we heard in the 80s. Its the same when he trashes NAFTA. Its safe to say now that the party of Reagan is history.

 

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  posted on 2/6/2019 at 10:32 AM
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Most ridiculous line of the speech follows:

"An economic miracle is taking place in the United States -- and the only thing that can stop it are foolish wars, politics or ridiculous partisan investigations. If there is going to be peace and legislation, there cannot be war and investigation. It just doesn't work that way!"




Nixon said the same thing in his SOTU address about Watergate. Not sure who he was talking to, but the chance of investigations stopping are zero.

 

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  posted on 2/6/2019 at 10:34 AM
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Just giving you the heads up on when the speech is, and perhaps those who did not intend to listen, should since he is telling us we should "listen closely", it seems quite serious.


It is very serious Gina, his fat, orange, fraudulent, embezzling treasonous ass is in very real jeopardy!!! As is our entire Democracy.
By the way has anyone noticed their tax returns are no larger than before (unless You are a large Corp.)? The National debt is sky rocketing!!!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/10/16/government-spending -how-rising-federal-debt-deficit-impact-americans/1589889002/

'I trusted you!' Trump voters seethe after realizing they're getting screwed by the GOP's tax plan

http://flip.it/FqOxQv

I am hesitant to criticize or comment on someone's mannerisms, however it just seemed so phony, I figure he's fair game. Did it strike anyone that the strange way he was using his hands, but especially the way he was moving his head and body around, it seemed effeminate, insincere and just plain weird!!!???

[Edited on 2/6/2019 by crazyjoe]

 

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Just giving you the heads up on when the speech is, and perhaps those who did not intend to listen, should since he is telling us we should "listen closely", it seems quite serious.


It is very serious Gina, his fat, orange, fraudulent, embezzling treasonous ass is in very real jeopardy!!! As is our entire Democracy.
By the way has anyone noticed their tax returns are no larger than before (unless You are a large Corp.)? The National debt is sky rocketing!!!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/10/16/government-spending -how-rising-federal-debt-deficit-impact-americans/1589889002/

'I trusted you!' Trump voters seethe after realizing they're getting screwed by the GOP's tax plan

http://flip.it/FqOxQv

I am hesitant to criticize or comment on someone's mannerisms, however it just seemed so phony, I figure he's fair game. Did it strike anyone that the strange way he was using his hands, but especially the way he was moving his head and body around, it seemed effeminate, insincere and just plain weird!!!???

[Edited on 2/6/2019 by crazyjoe]


The Republican tax cut was farcical from the moment it was signed into law if one cared enough to really parse it....The whole "but we doubled the standard deduction" argument overshadowed the fact that they also ELIMINATED the individual deduction on top of limiting the amount allowed to be itemized. Combined these two actions made the chances of a larger than previous year/s return fairly limited for many people....

But hey, Trump can now leave his fortune (if he actually has one) to his heirs with little to no tax payment. Fred Trump would be proud as he had to break the law numerous times to make that happen for little Donnie and his siblings.

Oh, and corporations made out well....They bought back a sh#t ton of their stock and invested little of their tax savings into actual job creating investments.

All for another trillion dollars of debt in this year alone.....Extrapolate that out for a few years and it's mind boggling as to why some of the electorate continues to be conned by the so called fiscally conservative Republican party.

 

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TEXT:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/05/politics/donald-trump-state-of-the-union-201 9-transcript/index.html


THE SPEECH

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sotu/


After the speech, Nancy Pelosi gave her reaction to it.

"FEBRUARY 6, 2019

Washington, D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued this statement after President Trump delivered his State of the Union Address:

“Tonight, the President spoke about the honor of being in the House Chamber, and all the progress that has been achieved here. But at the same time, he threatened the United States Congress not to exercise its constitutional responsibility of oversight.

“It will take days to fact-check all the misrepresentations that the President made tonight. Instead of fear-mongering and manufacturing a crisis at the border, President Trump should commit to signing the bipartisan conference committee’s bill to keep government open and provide strong, smart border security solutions.

“Sadly, while talking about perceived threats to the safety of the American people, he completely ignored the gun violence epidemic that is claiming lives across the country.

“The President’s call for ending HIV transmission in America is interesting, but if he is serious about ending the HIV/AIDS crisis, he must end his assault on health care and the dignity of the LGBTQ community.

“With the complicity of the GOP Congress over the last two years, President Trump failed the middle class by trying to take away Americans’ health care and enriching the wealthiest 1 percent. The state of the American middle class has been weakened by President Trump’s special interest first agenda.

“The President said that he wanted to work to lower prescription drug prices and build America’s infrastructure. Thus far, the President has not put forward any real proposals. Now, with a new House Democratic Majority working For The People, the President has an opportunity to join us to deliver real progress in lowering the price of prescription drugs and making the bold investments needed to rebuild America’s infrastructure in a green and modern way.

“President Trump must now take concrete steps to work with Democrats to strengthen the health and economic security of families across America. After two years of the President’s empty words, the American people deserve real results.”

https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/2519-2/

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/nancy-pelosis-reactions-trump-stolen-state- union-spotlight-111441844.html


REMARKS: This is why she was making notes during the speech and reading the text. She wanted to rip him apart as soon afterwards as possible, but I watched her facial expressions. I think she secretly has feelings for him and she cannot accept them or work them out. Perhaps he reminds her of someone she has known who was un-kind to her. It is more than being pissed off of feeling upstaged by his powerful role. There is something behind this. I think Melania should have lunches with her and try to get to the bottom of it. The Congress cannot move forward with her deep seated vehemence, which seems personal, though that is not possible. She did not know him prior to his role as a President, yet she would like to rip him to shreds and even the clapping, it was almost like some hypocrisy demonstration because she was not clapping in respect for him.

If Ms. Pelosi was abused at some point and Trump reminds her of her abuser that could explain the utter disdain she has for him. Trump does not even try to humiliate her as he has other opponents. He seems to sense something is very wrong. We know how he battled with Hillary and they had their disagreements but that was policy based and everyone knew it. With Ms. Pelosi something else is going on, in my opinion.

Even prior instances when he offerred revisions to his wall legislation, she would respond with "I will not give you one dime". It is PERSONAL for her. It is almost like a disgruntled divorced woman wanting to rake her husband over the coals.

Look at her arguments.

1."Sadly, while talking about perceived threats to the safety of the American people, he completely ignored the gun violence epidemic that is claiming lives across the country."

What PERCEIVED threats, he had actual people who were murdered by illegals who came into this country, that is not PERCEIVED, it is an actual event and there are many of them.


2. It would take days to fact check everything he said, if there is any reports of differences in statistics, she will be the first to to crucify him for that.
"President Trump should commit to signing the bipartisan conference committee’s bill to keep government open and provide strong, smart border security solutions."

What SMART BORDER SECURITY SOLUTIONS has she suggested that he should look into? He compromised and agreed to the metal fence rather than the concrete wall. So what is she talking about. How about some examples, she did not provide any.


3. "“The President’s call for ending HIV transmission in America is interesting, but if he is serious about ending the HIV/AIDS crisis, he must end his assault on health care and the dignity of the LGBTQ community."

What ASSAULT is there on the LGBTQ community? What is she referring to? Any examples? No of course not.


4. Everyone agrees there is a health care crisis.

5.“The President said that he wanted to work to lower prescription drug prices and build America’s infrastructure. Thus far, the President has not put forward any real proposals."
What about Congress, can NONE of the bright minds there come up with any legislation? WHY NOT. Can she come up with any legislation? If Not, WHY NOT?












[Edited on 2/7/2019 by gina]

 

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  posted on 2/6/2019 at 07:37 PM
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I think she secretly has feelings for him


Are you jealous? CAT FIGHT!

 

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  posted on 2/6/2019 at 07:54 PM
No I just recognize she gave him no credit at all for any of the things he has accomplished she just keeps trying to show him as inadequate, I think because she feels that way about herself and is insecure. When people keep attacking other people they have problems within themselves.

If she wants to discuss a policy or idea he has that she disagrees with, she could counter it with specifics on how she would solve that problem, but she does not do that. She just denigrates him and as I said it seems personal.

 

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No When people keep attacking other people they have problems within themselves.

[/quot This is an interesting point from a Trump supporter.

 

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  posted on 2/7/2019 at 06:23 PM
There has been a lot of press written about the hand clapping she gave Trump. As you will remember it was not a standard normal clap, then the Congress followed her lead and did it. I think they thought they were just supposed to follow what she did, but she had that smirk, that snarky look and her daughter commented on it.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/428739-pelosis-daughter-reacts-to-moms-s otu-meme-that-clap-took-me-back-to-the-teen

#waybackwednesday - oh yes that clap took me back to the teen years. She knows. And she knows that you know. And frankly she’s disappointed that you thought this would work. But here’s a clap. #youtriedit

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Christine Pelosi
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#SOTU Sex Trafficking UPDATE —> The Department of Justice WILL re-open the case of Trump pal Epstein, including the conduct of lawyers such as his HHS Secretary. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/doj-watchdog-wants-to-prob e-labor-secretarys-role-in-abuse-deal?utm_campaign=2019-01-29T21%3A48%3A42& amp;utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=lawdesk

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/fight-reopen-teen-sex-case-ag ainst-jeff-epstein-may-set-precedent/hxt8lQgkABEc59vrbz8teK/


Nancy Pelosi has a twitter account #followthefacts, as well as Team Pelosi,


https://www.newsweek.com/nancy-pelosi-daughter-clap-donald-trump-1320680

“Tonight, the president spoke about the honor of being in the House chamber and all the progress that has been achieved here,” she said. “But at the same time, he threatened the United States Congress not to exercise its constitutional responsibility of oversight. It will take days to fact-check all the misrepresentations that the president made tonight.”


REMARKS: So Speaker Pelosi will devote her time, spending days to "fact check" and point out anything she can find that can be refuted in his speech. Why doesn't she try to work towards changing things rather than just trying to denigrate the President? What fuels her anger and rage? Why does she want to lash out at him? Is it because he is safe, convenient, and she can't fight back against whoever caused her rage in the first place?





[Edited on 2/7/2019 by gina]

 

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  posted on 2/8/2019 at 08:23 AM
quote:
Most ridiculous line of the speech follows:

"An economic miracle is taking place in the United States -- and the only thing that can stop it are foolish wars, politics or ridiculous partisan investigations. If there is going to be peace and legislation, there cannot be war and investigation. It just doesn't work that way!"




What a foolish thing to put into n the speech. It was actually a pretty good speech, less contentious then I remember his first. But just a couple sour lines kind of spoils the thing.

 

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  posted on 2/8/2019 at 06:17 PM
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There has been a lot of press written about the hand clapping she gave Trump. As you will remember it was not a standard normal clap, then the Congress followed her lead and did it. I think they thought they were just supposed to follow what she did, but she had that smirk, that snarky look and her daughter commented on it.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/428739-pelosis-daughter-reacts-to-moms-s otu-meme-that-clap-took-me-back-to-the-teen

#waybackwednesday - oh yes that clap took me back to the teen years. She knows. And she knows that you know. And frankly she’s disappointed that you thought this would work. But here’s a clap. #youtriedit

Mrs. Pelosi's daughter is also interested in Metoo politics.
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#MeToo Politics, Congress Update: House offices have 60 DAYS to implement anti-harassment policies.

Have to wonder if Speaker Pelosi is involved with the #metoo movement. Most people agree with the principles of the movement, to not be silent if they have been abused, but 'metoo' means that person themselves was abused. Given that Ms. Pelosi's daughter is bringing up the Epstein matter on her twitter page, and people are trying to tie it to Trump, he needs to be aware of this clandestine ambush.

Christine Pelosi
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More Christine Pelosi Retweeted Christine Pelosi

#SOTU Sex Trafficking UPDATE —> The Department of Justice WILL re-open the case of Trump pal Epstein, including the conduct of lawyers such as his HHS Secretary. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/doj-watchdog-wants-to-prob e-labor-secretarys-role-in-abuse-deal?utm_campaign=2019-01-29T21%3A48%3A42& amp;utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=lawdesk

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/fight-reopen-teen-sex-case-ag ainst-jeff-epstein-may-set-precedent/hxt8lQgkABEc59vrbz8teK/


Nancy Pelosi has a twitter account #followthefacts, as well as Team Pelosi,


https://www.newsweek.com/nancy-pelosi-daughter-clap-donald-trump-1320680

“Tonight, the president spoke about the honor of being in the House chamber and all the progress that has been achieved here,” she said. “But at the same time, he threatened the United States Congress not to exercise its constitutional responsibility of oversight. It will take days to fact-check all the misrepresentations that the president made tonight.”


REMARKS: So Speaker Pelosi will devote her time, spending days to "fact check" and point out anything she can find that can be refuted in his speech. Why doesn't she try to work towards changing things rather than just trying to denigrate the President? What fuels her anger and rage? Why does she want to lash out at him? Is it because he is safe, convenient, and she can't fight back against whoever caused her rage in the first place?

[Edited on 2/7/2019 by gina]


I'm always amused reading comments like this. As if Trump doesn't use every opportunity possible to bash Democrats and give childish nicknames to his rivals. Yet somehow Trump is a victim and nobody is treating him fairly. The mindset of ANYBODY who thinks Donald Trump is some kind of a victim I'll never understand.

 

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There has been a lot of press written about the hand clapping she gave Trump. As you will remember it was not a standard normal clap, then the Congress followed her lead and did it. I think they thought they were just supposed to follow what she did, but she had that smirk, that snarky look and her daughter commented on it.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/428739-pelosis-daughter-reacts-to-moms-s otu-meme-that-clap-took-me-back-to-the-teen

#waybackwednesday - oh yes that clap took me back to the teen years. She knows. And she knows that you know. And frankly she’s disappointed that you thought this would work. But here’s a clap. #youtriedit

Mrs. Pelosi's daughter is also interested in Metoo politics.
Christine Pelosi
@sfpelosi
1h1 hour ago
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#MeToo Politics, Congress Update: House offices have 60 DAYS to implement anti-harassment policies.

Have to wonder if Speaker Pelosi is involved with the #metoo movement. Most people agree with the principles of the movement, to not be silent if they have been abused, but 'metoo' means that person themselves was abused. Given that Ms. Pelosi's daughter is bringing up the Epstein matter on her twitter page, and people are trying to tie it to Trump, he needs to be aware of this clandestine ambush.

Christine Pelosi
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21h21 hours ago
More Christine Pelosi Retweeted Christine Pelosi

#SOTU Sex Trafficking UPDATE —> The Department of Justice WILL re-open the case of Trump pal Epstein, including the conduct of lawyers such as his HHS Secretary. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/doj-watchdog-wants-to-prob e-labor-secretarys-role-in-abuse-deal?utm_campaign=2019-01-29T21%3A48%3A42& amp;utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=lawdesk

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/fight-reopen-teen-sex-case-ag ainst-jeff-epstein-may-set-precedent/hxt8lQgkABEc59vrbz8teK/


Nancy Pelosi has a twitter account #followthefacts, as well as Team Pelosi,


https://www.newsweek.com/nancy-pelosi-daughter-clap-donald-trump-1320680

“Tonight, the president spoke about the honor of being in the House chamber and all the progress that has been achieved here,” she said. “But at the same time, he threatened the United States Congress not to exercise its constitutional responsibility of oversight. It will take days to fact-check all the misrepresentations that the president made tonight.”


REMARKS: So Speaker Pelosi will devote her time, spending days to "fact check" and point out anything she can find that can be refuted in his speech. Why doesn't she try to work towards changing things rather than just trying to denigrate the President? What fuels her anger and rage? Why does she want to lash out at him? Is it because he is safe, convenient, and she can't fight back against whoever caused her rage in the first place?

[Edited on 2/7/2019 by gina]


I'm always amused reading comments like this. As if Trump doesn't use every opportunity possible to bash Democrats and give childish nicknames to his rivals. Yet somehow Trump is a victim and nobody is treating him fairly. The mindset of ANYBODY who thinks Donald Trump is some kind of a victim I'll never understand.


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  posted on 2/9/2019 at 02:36 PM
He will not back down on what he believes to be his mission, to make America great again. he has cited things he feels are keeping America from being great and he seeks to change them. He has worked on foreign trade, repealed Nafta and replaced it with a different plan, he has brought manufacturing jobs back to America, he took on tax reform and got new laws put in place, he has been dealing with the threat from North Korea and now has a working relationship for negotiation of non nuclear proliferation with Kim Jung Un, even Russian President, Vladimir Putin said last week that he is willing to work with Trump on non nuclear proliferation since Trump pulled out of the old treaty which he felt was not being followed. He is very adamant that abortions must stop, and has appointed 3 Supreme Court Judges who have this same belief, and psychics have said he will appoint a total of 5 judges to the Supreme Court so things may change quite dramatically in this country with regards to abortion. He is even willing to negotiate via the US envoy for peace in Afghanistan, and that is no small feat for anyone in the American administration.

I read Ms. Pelosi's background and she is extremely qualified for the position that she holds, she has earned it, I just think her time would be better spent coming up with counter legislation, such as drafting bills which is what Congressional members are supposed to be doing, rather than spending days trying to find factual errors in Trumps speech. She is like one of those school teachers who enjoys putting a big red F on top of somebody's paper and circling it. She is quick to point out tasks she expects him to complete that he did not address, ie. gun violence in this country. Maybe we should think of her as 'pitbull Pelosi' cause she won't let go and he is going to deal with her or be stopped in his tracks for anything he wants to accomplish.

 

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"Mankind is a single nation" "Allah did not make you a single people so he could try you in what he gave you, to him you will all return, he will inform you where you differed". Quran Chapter 2 Sura 213

 
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