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Liberals & free thinking individuals should not sink as low as a baker who shows prejudice and hides behind the bible and pseudo morals.


Exactly. The Baker was wrong, but the restaurant was right? Although I believe in the individual freedom of business owners to serve whom they please, the hypocrisy was blinding in this case.

Practice what you preach.


You missed the point. Shocking! The courts backed the baker saying he did not have to give service if it violated his moral principles. Liberals basic response was “we don’t agree, but if that is the law so be it”. Now, when the tables are turned, conservatives are the offended ones.


I'm not in the least bit "offended"..lol...In my eyes, just more "tit for tat"..B.S.


I didn’t say you were offended. I said you missed the point. Now I know why your posts make no sense most of the time. You have a reading deficiency.


My opinion of you will never change. You are absolutely charming.


Your opinion on anything never changes. You are obstinate and always right. But never take a stand other than being anti-liberal. You never support anything other than vague ideas like “less government” which you never decline. Someone called you our resident contrarian once. That was the best description one come make of you. You must be a miserable person to be around.


Well, I guess that is just going to have to be my cross to bear. But good for you, getting that terrible weight off your shoulder!


There is no weight involved when dealing with hypocritical bigots. The low IQ voters and the third party voters got what they wanted. Live with it.

 

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  posted on 6/24/2018 at 08:02 PM
When you're the propaganda queen for the fascists then you can expect some back last. Don't know if any one saw the statement from the King of the Netherlands. He's given his warning to DT that there will be a time he will be held accountable at the Hague...He and his administration are committing child abuse and human rights crimes on a daily basis and the world is taking notice not just the "Fake news"

See the forgotten voters/people got that way for a reason and their showing why we forgot them and will again when this episode is over...

 

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The law is on the Presidents side here. Lets get a deal on fixing immigration and securing the border. If democrats do not want to secure the border than just come out and say it.

Like it or not, he campaigned (and won) on his views about immigration.

Try sneaking into Mexico and report back here to let me know how well they treat you and your family.

 

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  posted on 6/24/2018 at 08:34 PM
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The law is on the Presidents side here. Lets get a deal on fixing immigration and securing the border.


Hey, Trump is trying his best, cut him some slack.

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Like it or not, he campaigned (and won) on his views about immigration.


Relax, give him some more time.

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Try sneaking into Mexico and report back here to let me know how well they treat you and your family.


An American.....sneaking into Mexico? LOL!!!!!! Thank you for posting this. You know we can just walk or drive across without question, right? Wow. Post of be year.

 

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  posted on 6/24/2018 at 09:10 PM
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The law is on the Presidents side here. Lets get a deal on fixing immigration and securing the border. If democrats do not want to secure the border than just come out and say it.

Like it or not, he campaigned (and won) on his views about immigration.

Try sneaking into Mexico and report back here to let me know how well they treat you and your family.


He campaigned on Mexico paying for the wall. When is that going to happen, goob? Why should American taxpayers pay for this when Trump promised Mexico would pay? Please answer this.

He lured gullible MAGA voters in for this - the same voters that will be screwed by his trade wars.

 

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  posted on 6/24/2018 at 09:40 PM
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He's given his warning to DT that there will be a time he will be held accountable at the Hague..


Nice. I was going to mention the Hague for these guys last week, but backed off, good to have some backup from the King of the Netherlands.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2018 at 02:08 AM
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There is no weight involved when dealing with hypocritical bigots. The low IQ voters and the third party voters got what they wanted. Live with it.


There you have it. God has spoken!

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  posted on 6/25/2018 at 02:17 AM
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If democrats do not want to secure the border than just come out and say it.


They don't want a secure border, I'm guessing, most want an open border; "it's cruel, because after all, Illegal immigrants just want a better life"! ...and the Democrats feel everyone should pay for it. Disagree with the rule of law and well, "You don't like brown people"......

please...

wait for it....

 

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  posted on 6/25/2018 at 07:35 AM
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They don't want a secure border, I'm guessing, most want an open border; "it's cruel, because after all, Illegal immigrants just want a better life"! ...and the Democrats feel everyone should pay for it. Disagree with the rule of law and well, "You don't like brown people"......

please...

wait for it....


Look everyone, BIGV wants to argue today.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2018 at 09:39 AM
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They don't want a secure border, I'm guessing, most want an open border; "it's cruel, because after all, Illegal immigrants just want a better life"! ...and the Democrats feel everyone should pay for it.


Disagree with BIGV, and this is what you get.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2018 at 10:24 AM
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They don't want a secure border, I'm guessing, most want an open border; "it's cruel, because after all, Illegal immigrants just want a better life"! ...and the Democrats feel everyone should pay for it.


Disagree with BIGV, and this is what you get.


Yeah, just look at ALL of the inflammatory verbiage I used!

 

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  posted on 6/25/2018 at 11:25 AM
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Yeah, just look at ALL of the inflammatory verbiage I used!


Let me guess, saying Democrats don’t want a secure border, and they want everyone to pay for it, is not inflammatory. You were just stating your opinion. If anyone thinks it’s inflammatory, then you post the Buckley quote?

 

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  posted on 6/25/2018 at 08:45 PM
When our ancestors came to America c early 1900's they needed people to "vouch" for them and agree to help them financially. There was no free health care for them. I would have a way different view of immigration if that was still the case,
 

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  posted on 6/25/2018 at 10:24 PM
Does this sound familiar? . . .

“THE CHILDREN OF BIGGOTTED, CATHOLIC IRELAND, like the FROGS which were sent out as a plague against the Pharaoh have come into our houses, bed-chambers, and ovens and kneading-troughs,” the Ohio Statesmen lamented in 1843, echoing the complaints of party-members ten years later. The “IRISH, when they arrive among us, TOO IDLE AND VICIOUS to clear and cultivate the land and earn a comfortable home, DUMP THEMSELVES DOWN in our large villages and town, crowding the meaner sort of tenements and filling them with WRETCHEDNESS, FILTH and DISEASE. In a political point of view, WHAT ARE THEY BUT MERE MARKEATABLE CATTLE?"


 

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  posted on 6/25/2018 at 10:44 PM
"Few of their children in the country learn English ... The signs in our streets have inscriptions in both languages ... Unless the stream of their importation could be turned they will soon so outnumber us that all the advantages we have will not be able to preserve our language, and even our government will become precarious."

-Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father, on German immigration to Pennsylvania, 1750s


"We should build a wall of brass around the country."

- John Jay, first chief justice of Supreme Court, regarding “Catholic alien invaders,” 1750s


"What means the paying of the passage and emptying out upon our shores such floods of pauper emigrants — the contents of the poor house and the sweepings of the streets? — multiplying tumults and violence, filling our prisons, and crowding our poor-houses, and quadrupling our taxation, and sending annually accumulating thousands to the poll to lay their inexperienced hand upon the helm of our power?"

- Lyman Beecher, Leader of the Second Great Awakening, on English immigrants, 1834


"The enormous influx of alien foreigners will in the end prove ruinous to American workingmen, by REDUCING THE WAGES OF LABOR to a standard that will drive them from the farms and workshops altogether."

- Opinion article in the Philadelphia Sun, 1854


"Standing behind them are Christian employers of this land, who would rather import heathen willing to work for barely enough to sustain life than retain a brother Christian at a wage sufficient to live as becomes a Christian. We do not want Opium or the Chinese who grow it."

- Terence Powderly, Irish-American labor leader, 1892


"We demand the change of the national naturalization laws by the repeal of the act authorizing the naturalization of minors…We demand for the protection of our citizen laborers, the prohibition of the importation of pauper labor, and the restriction of immigration…We protest against the gross negligence and laxity with which the Judiciary of our land administer the present naturalization laws, and against the practice of naturalizing aliens."

- statement of principles of the American Protective Association, 1894


"Not a day passes but families are ruthlessly turned out to make room for foreign invaders. The rates are burdened with the education of thousands of foreign children."

- William Evans Gordon, British nativist, 1905


"The people of this country are too tolerant. There’s no other country in the world where they’d allow it... After all we built up this country and then we allow a lot of foreigners, the scum of Europe, the offscourings of Polish ghettos to come and run it for us."

– John Dos Passos, early 20th century novelist, on U.S. immigration policy


"They are coming in such numbers and we are unable adequately to take care of them…It simply amounts to unrestricted and indiscriminate dumping into this country of people of every character and description…If there were in existence a ship that could hold three million human beings, then three million Jews of Poland would board to escape to America."

-Congressional hearing, 1920


"Now, what do we find in all our large cities? Entire sections containing a population incapable of understanding our institutions, with no comprehension of our national ideals, and for the most part incapable of speaking the English language. Foreign language information service gives evidence that many southern Europeans resent as an unjust discrimination the quota laws and represent America as showing race hatred and unmindful of its mission to the world. The reverse is true. America’s first duty is to those already within her own shores."

- Representative Grant Hudson, 1924

 

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  posted on 6/26/2018 at 06:44 AM
Look if Col. Sanders says to get out - doesn't matter if you are related - you gotta go.
"No GREASY CHICKEN FOR YOU.

After 6 billion threads and posts going back and forth, have you guys not fixed the US yet?

All that cut/paste of useless articles that are always written with complete bias for one side or the other.

All that "repeating" what is spewed out by some 24 Hour "News" channel as if it is fact, has accomplished nothing.


The funny part is that you know that the other person never reads the quoted article anyway.

Poor Gina still quotes chapters of books/articles and still thinks even one member here reads it.

Cute

You guys used to be Americans. Now you are left and right. Sheep guided by 24 Hour "News" and social media that react as told.


Turn off the TV/computer - Now that would make America great again.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2018 at 07:13 AM
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Turn off the TV/computer - Now that would make America great again.


Some good advice. People want to be involved, whether it is reading a paper and talking about issues at the local coffee shop or doing it on the internet.

We are definitely at the point of no return in terms of our society getting along with those who disagree.

 

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We are definitely at the point of no return in terms of our society getting along with those who disagree.


You may be right but I hope not. It isn't just politics either and the USA is far from being the only people guilty. It is world wide.

But as far as politics, I can understand choosing a side of an issue. But in life, we are not fully left or right on anything. It is impossible to fully agree with one party or the other. On some issues you will disagree and others maybe fall somewhere in the middle.

But this I AM RIGHT/I AM LEFT has hurt your country and will continue to blindly do so if people draw a line in the sand on EVERY issue. " You are Right so you are an idiot" - "The Left are wimps who give everything away". As if any of you live so extreme left/right in real life. Middle ground, compromise and working together is what made America great then and now.


Long before Trump/Obama, you guys were great because it wasn't the politicians that made it great, it is you.


Travelled all around and met thousands of Americans - Amazing people North/South/East/West.


Before CNN/FOX, social media etc, you would vote. Win or lose - accepted the President and got on with life. Sure maybe you disagreed with some policies/issues but it did not consume your lives or society. You were Americans - Standing Proud side by side. The vast majority are exactly the same. But we see/hear/read the extremists who are just seeking attention and money at any costs. And then people sit and debate this extreme nonsense.


I think your Country and People are awesome. When I meet you, I don't give a crap who you voted for. Would prefer not to know and discuss another topic to be honest. All I know is that you are a friendly (for the most part), kind and generous people.


20-30 years ago, no one gave a crap if some politician didn't get served their KFC. You would never have heard about and it would have 0% effect on your life.


Ok - this is where some will bash because I said I like you F'N guys.



None of you are ALL the way Right/Left - In reality, you are all in the middle somewhere so call it Team Middle. Only people with mental/psych issues are all the way in either direction. People unable to listen to reason or evaluate issues or situations. People who are unable to process information so their mind just accepts someone else's version. The percentage or people in that category is a tiny portion of the population.

Stop letting them speak for you.

Make America Great Again and send me CDs.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2018 at 08:48 AM
Maxine Waters and Robert DeNiro have done more to further the Republican party's cause than anyone I can think of.

 

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After 6 billion threads and posts going back and forth, have you guys not fixed the US yet?

All that cut/paste of useless articles that are always written with complete bias for one side or the other.

All that "repeating" what is spewed out by some 24 Hour "News" channel as if it is fact, has accomplished nothing.


The funny part is that you know that the other person never reads the quoted article anyway.

Poor Gina still quotes chapters of books/articles and still thinks even one member here reads it.

Cute


Your first mistake is thinking we come here to fix something. Some people find it interesting to debate politics and current events to simply learn. Secondly, I do read the articles, and I doubt I’m the only one.

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You guys used to be Americans. Now you are left and right. Sheep guided by 24 Hour "News" and social media that react as told.

Turn off the TV/computer - Now that would make America great again.


Did you learn this from your trip to Disney World? You are just another one that has a need to poke the tiger and fight, just like the Americans you describe. Always battling someone....

 

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Maxine Waters and Robert DeNiro have done more to further the Republican party's cause than anyone I can think of.


That says more about the oversensitivities of the voter - this type of tabloid trash should never influence your vote.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2018 at 09:55 AM
Great post Canadian Mule!!

This President is different, I totally get that from his opponents. Still, where we are today, it's been building, it is not new, it has just been escalated. The hate for Bush, the hate for Obama...why hate either? With each Presidential term, politics and debate and reason in this country has been eroding. With the growth of blogs and social media with one person's opinion trying to outdo another person's opinion to garner attention, rising to insults and profanity, it all just has exploded. I'm certainly not innocent, I try to keep my feet on the ground, I suppose we all can fall victim to our surroundings.

I am sure there are people who thought President Reagan did irreversible damage to this country, just as they might think Bush did or Trump is doing. The difference is that there was no outlet for the kind of commentary we have today, the people talking at extremes on issues did not have the stage they have. Rush Limbaugh was a turning point, but if it wasn't him, it would've been somebody else.

I guess we are our own worst enemy. The Republic is falling from within.

Would certainly like to think on the words of Canadian Mule's post. We are great together. We can do magnificent things together. Anytime I meet people or talk among friends of friends and the topic is current events we generally end up in the middle with some core agreements and some not very significant disagreements. I do not know how we can recapture some civility together. Definitely Trump doesn't help. But I learned as a young child that acting out and blaming others doesn't work...so-and-so made me do it or so-and-so made me say it. BS, everyone is responsible for their own words and actions.

Perhaps the best thing to do is just to tune it out and enjoy the things in life that make living fun and great and exciting. Because whatever activity I am doing with whomever I am doing it with, what their politics are do not matter in the least even if we both know we do not agree on whatever.

We need to get back to relationships and shared experiences...I just don't know if it can happen.

 

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You guys used to be Americans. Now you are left and right. Sheep guided by 24 Hour "News" and social media that react as told


The recent grassroots override of the draconian and inhumane child separation policy is a good example of an alert American democracy at its individual conscience-driven, conflicted and faulty best.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2018 at 10:36 AM
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The recent grassroots override of the draconian and inhumane child separation policy is a good example of an alert American democracy at its individual conscience-driven, conflicted and faulty best.


Agreed 100%. The #1 superpower in the world is always going to have complex passionate issues. It goes with the territory. Our ship may be taking some friendly fire, but it surely won’t drift off course, and still the strongest.

 

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Sure maybe you disagreed with some policies/issues but it did not consume your lives or society.


I would counter that what America is experiencing now is the continuation of a history of conflict, change, and social progress that has always consumed our lives and society:

The American Revolution

The Civil War

Labor reform struggle

Prohibition

The New Deal

Civil Rights movement

Women's Liberation

Rock and Roll

Vietnam

Marijuana law reform - This repression cut to the marrow of our lives and society for nearly a century.

and so on , as Kurt Vonnegut would say.

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The vast majority are exactly the same


Wait a sec, weren't you just accusing Americans of being brainwashed sheep? While at the same time waxing nostalgic for a golden era of total conformity that never existed?

Exactly the same? God forbid. Not so. Never was so, and never will be - when this becomes true then you can rightfully say we are no longer Americans.


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