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  posted on 6/12/2018 at 10:22 AM
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Using profanity when speaking publicly regardless of who or the issue is classless, unprofessional, and immature.


Agreed. I can’t believe the right elected one of these types for President.


There's crassness on the left too.

 

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  posted on 6/12/2018 at 10:23 AM
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Well, I don't care what Robert DeNiro says or does. I don't care what Ted Nugent says, or somebody named Samatha B or Ann Coulter. The thoughts and actions of those people are inconsequential to me.

I was embarrassed however by what the President and some of his advisors said following the G7, it was hardly the first time and I doubt it will be the last.

While I cringe at some of the methods and language this President is using towards our traditional allies and mutual trading partners, this issue on trade needs reevaluated and reworked.

Canada does not pose a national security threat in the traditional sense. But importing 90% of our aluminum, being reduced from 1993's 23 aluminum producers in the US to 5 today and threatening extinction of another entire domestic industry that the US military relies upon is a national security issue. Canada's aluminum exports to the US are a big deal for them, and I would expect them to fight hard to preserve those sales. Everyone should protect their own, it's well past time for the US to do some protecting here for a variety of issues, and in some cases national security concerns, which having a sustainable manufacturing sector producing necessary raw materials for our needs is valid.

If I were to meet Prime Minister Trudeau today I would personally apologize to him for the words, but not the policy position.


The aluminum imports are not in any way Canada’s fault or something that needs to be addressed. All countries depend on each other for their mutual defense. To say that it is a national security risk because we import it from Canada is short sighted. Canada is our ally, or it was until the other day. Their is no country that is all that self sufficient that they can provide 100% of their defense. Western Europe imports almost all of its oil, but somehow they manage. BTW, do you know that we have a trade surplus of about $8 billion with Canada?

If we are going to attack our proven allies and align with autocratic leaders who only serve their own self interests, trade will be the least of our problems.

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  posted on 6/12/2018 at 10:41 AM
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Conservatives claim they voted for Trump because of insults from the left - thoughts?


Hillary's deplorables comment may have cost here the election. Comments that people who lened conservatively are "misguided" were all over the web. I remember telling someone on line here that there is a whole country out there that cares more about their guns than their daughter's rights to get an abortion. They responded that they needed to be educated.

So yeah; denigrating people makes them act a certain way. Look at Kathy Griffin. Imagine the outcry if someone had a severed Obama head?

And honestly; last election I pulled a Buddhist passive aggressive stance. I went into the booth and made a conscious effort to pull neither lever. I found both candidates "deplorable"

 

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  posted on 6/12/2018 at 11:45 AM
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Using profanity when speaking publicly regardless of who or the issue is classless, unprofessional, and immature.


I would agree with this, regardless of who is sitting in the White House. DeNiro just lowered himself to the level of someone he despises. Last time I checked, he was an actor, no different than a plumber or a physician.

 

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  posted on 6/12/2018 at 12:05 PM
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There's crassness on the left too


Yes, but the left wouldn’t want Bill Maher or Kathy Griffin to run the country - that’s the difference.

 

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  posted on 6/12/2018 at 08:09 PM
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“This is exactly why Trump won”, says every Trump supporter in unison, after learning DeNiro cursed out the President on stage at the Tony’s. One man in a red MAGA hat states, “People wonder why we voted for Trump. Well, people like DeNiro are the reason. Liberals want to condemn us for our beliefs so this is how we fight back!” When asked why his vote wasn’t about policy that will benefit the country, he replied, “Huh? Whaddya mean?”


Please post a link to where this came from.

 

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  posted on 6/12/2018 at 10:45 PM
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The aluminum imports are not in any way Canada’s fault or something that needs to be addressed. All countries depend on each other for their mutual defense. To say that it is a national security risk because we import it from Canada is short sighted. Canada is our ally, or it was until the other day. Their is no country that is all that self sufficient that they can provide 100% of their defense. Western Europe imports almost all of its oil, but somehow they manage. BTW, do you know that we have a trade surplus of about $8 billion with Canada?

If we are going to attack our proven allies and align with autocratic leaders who only serve their own self interests, trade will be the least of our problems.


Many differing opinions. You have yours, I have mine. No it is not Canada's fault that they can gain an advantage under current trade law. Independence and self reliance is a worthy goal, especially when it comes to military supply chains and readiness. Again, you have your opinion, and that of others may differ. The trade numbers vary depending what you are looknig at. To reiterate, I personally would give preferencial treatment to Canada, but that does not mean that I would favor their exporters at the expense or our industrial base. Canada is a great friend and I hope for continued good will between our countries. Friends have disagreements, and again, I take exception to the language this administration is using, not the policy. Your milage may vary. Who is right? Who is wrong? There is no telling. I am glad the conversation is being had.

 

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  posted on 6/13/2018 at 01:11 AM
If we're going to war with Canada, then how about we shut down the Keystone Pipeline?
 

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  posted on 6/13/2018 at 08:05 AM
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Please post a link to where this came from.


Smerconish was all over this topic on his radio show. It’s been all over this site too. Care to address people who casted their vote for these reasons?

 

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  posted on 6/13/2018 at 09:45 AM
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So yeah; denigrating conservatives makes them act a certain way, as they truly are better than everyone else and are not to be questioned.


Fixed that for you.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2018 at 01:05 PM
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I'm really curious, what policies are the left promoting that will help the country?
Common sense gun control so our children will stop being murdered in school.
Yeah, gun control has really worked well in Chicago - just ask the over 200 people already shot this year. With 300+ million guns in the country, banning any type is a waste of time. Real common sense would be installing metal detectors, limiting entrances, and having a potential armed response. Its worked for the airlines. Are our kids less important than airline passengers?



If everybody was armed there would be conflicts and shootings for a little while, then the crooks and criminals would realize if they start their nonsense, they will most likely be shot, and crime would decrease. They do not get their guns legally, so telling law abiding people to not have a gun does not stop the crimes it just stops their ability to fight back when they are accosted.

 

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