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  posted on 5/14/2018 at 04:37 PM
IMHO there hasn't been a decent rock band since Nirvana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJg4OJxp-co

Greta Van Fleet ....Awesome!

 

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  posted on 5/14/2018 at 06:11 PM

The guitar player says in his Guitar Player interview that Duane's influence is all
over the new CD, fwiw.

 

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  posted on 5/14/2018 at 07:15 PM
Nice post, but they're not really a new band. Their known as a Zeppelin derivative. Band is awesome. Lead singer, not so much.

Not really breaking new ground. Look at the Peach Fest lineup, that is sprinkled with new bands. Best festival of the Summer as far as I'm concerned.

 

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  posted on 5/15/2018 at 06:13 AM
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Nice post, but they're not really a new band. Their known as a Zeppelin derivative. Band is awesome. Lead singer, not so much.

Not really breaking new ground. Look at the Peach Fest lineup, that is sprinkled with new bands. Best festival of the Summer as far as I'm concerned.


What bands are breaking new grounds? Not sure any are. The only reason they get that Zep comparison is due to the singer for the most part. I think they are a decent band and with some seasoning and maturing they could be something special. It's nice to have a band that just wants to play straight up guitar driven rock. That's a rarity these days.

Peach Fest is nothing new. These Fests are a dime a dozen. Some odd ball bands with goofy names. Cant wait to hear Pigeons Playing Ping Pong and The Magic Beans!!!

 

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  posted on 5/15/2018 at 06:15 AM
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IMHO there hasn't been a decent rock band since Nirvana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJg4OJxp-co

Greta Van Fleet ....Awesome!


Nirvana and decent rock band do not belong in the same sentence. That would be a stretch by any means. The world of music would be in a world of hurt if that was true.

 

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  posted on 5/15/2018 at 06:35 AM
Robert Plant talks about Greta Van Fleet

https://youtu.be/ePIAaQwYMaM

 

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  posted on 5/15/2018 at 07:07 AM
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IMHO there hasn't been a decent rock band since Nirvana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJg4OJxp-co

Greta Van Fleet ....Awesome!


I wonder how much music you listen to as I really disagree with your statement . Listened to Greta Van Fleet and they are the second coming of Kingdom Come.

 

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  posted on 5/15/2018 at 07:27 AM
Of course they will be tarred with the Zep rip off brush but mark my words these young guys play with enough talent and pure exuberance that they deserve people to get beyond the comparisons. Yes they do sound like Zep but the material is their own and as a fan first time around of Plant & co. I give them a massive thumbs up. If you're in a Zep tribute band and you hear this you'll probably want to end it all!
Turn it up and enjoy

 

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  posted on 5/15/2018 at 07:40 AM
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Peach Fest is nothing new. These Fests are a dime a dozen.

Nirvana and decent rock band do not belong in the same sentence. That would be a stretch by any means. The world of music would be in a world of hurt if that was true.


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  posted on 5/15/2018 at 11:45 AM
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IMHO there hasn't been a decent rock band since Nirvana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJg4OJxp-co

Greta Van Fleet ....Awesome!


Thanks for bringing to our attention. Will give a listen.

 

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  posted on 5/15/2018 at 12:07 PM
sounds like a complete Zep rip off to me.
"You are my special?!" really?
Thanks for the post but I think Ill pass.

 

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  posted on 5/15/2018 at 12:08 PM
Just saw these guys this past Sat at the Electric Factory in Philly. Was a sold out show.
Opening act was Dorothy and was pretty good.

My son asked me to take him so we got tickets since his b'day is soon.

I listened to their double EP and found them to be Zep influenced.

The show was pretty good for under 90 mins. But yeah, VERY Zep influenced.

My initial thoughts when describing to my son where that, OK they are young and the guitarist basically was blowing his load on every solo. Got to be a bit tedious. Very talented and all.

However, it seemed to me he must have watched 'The Song Remains the Same' about a 100 times and copied Page's moves down to a T. I remember thinking. ok you can do Page, but where are you? he did play slide at one point. Basically played SG's all nite.

The singer sound Plant-ish circa '69. Some may like others not so much. Does a lot of "Oh Momma" throughout the songs. Almost expected him to say Push a few times, but never happened.

The songs are good and entertaining. They put on a very cool show. Not sure I'd see them again but will watch when they eventually make it on AXS TV.

Here's a review from a regional paper:

http://www.mcall.com/entertainment/lehigh-valley-music/mc-ent-greta-van-fle et-electric-factry-philadelphia-20180513-story.html

 

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  posted on 5/15/2018 at 01:58 PM
Should have named the band Artificial Plant, it would be less confusing.

The band isn't bad, but the vocalist's Plant mimicry is too over the top. He even cops his stage moves. The songs (especially the lyrics) are just there, nothing "special" there beyond that word.

Maybe they will develop into something more than what they currently are, but currently they are a more musical Kingdom Come.

I hope they do develop and I wish them well because lord knows we need something rock and roll to cleanse the airwaves.

 

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  posted on 5/16/2018 at 09:11 AM
First I would say that I disagree with the "no good new bands" angle as there is massive talent everywhere and in every genre. Whether you seek it out, find it or like it is a matter of opinion and taste I guess but the concept of the planet having no good bands is pretty hard to buy.

Artificial Plant - LMAO - that is great. Good name for a Zeppelin /Plant Tribute band.

Greta is definitely in a long line of bands that have copied the "Zeppelin" sound and it is usually more from a vocal angle than a musical one.

Now they are 3 brothers and another kid. The kid can do a great " Whooo Baby" and mimic Plant. So the record company and producer jump all over it. The kids get swept along and at this stage are enjoying the ride.

But when I first heard this last year, I told my buddy that it is always the same thing. You can "Whoo Baby" and sound like Plant but can they write and play like Page, Jones and Bonham? Not even close on any level. No knock on the kids as very few other bands have ever come close either. But the material itself is not the greatest. Without the Plantisms, the songs would never have touched radio.

Time will tell how they evolve. For now they are just another in a long line of Zeppelin borrowers. Far more people have ripped off Zeppelin than they ever ripped off the blues guys. And for far more money but few ever look at it that way or mention it.

Kingdom Come

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2S1JKJqXvQ

Whitesnake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swPt9HBRXuE

Fastway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NGZttlZAVw

 

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  posted on 5/16/2018 at 10:06 AM
I really dug the video and the straight no frills rock and roll approach. That kid has some pipes for sure. Now it's all a matter of where their writing will take them.............

 

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  posted on 5/17/2018 at 05:06 PM
Tried liking them,but don't enjoy there music. I would much rather listen to a band like Wolfmother and The Rival sons.

[Edited on 5/17/2018 by fender31]

 

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  posted on 5/17/2018 at 05:27 PM
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First I would say that I disagree with the "no good new bands" angle as there is massive talent everywhere and in every genre. Whether you seek it out, find it or like it is a matter of opinion and taste I guess but the concept of the planet having no good bands is pretty hard to buy.

Artificial Plant - LMAO - that is great. Good name for a Zeppelin /Plant Tribute band.

Greta is definitely in a long line of bands that have copied the "Zeppelin" sound and it is usually more from a vocal angle than a musical one.

Now they are 3 brothers and another kid. The kid can do a great " Whooo Baby" and mimic Plant. So the record company and producer jump all over it. The kids get swept along and at this stage are enjoying the ride.

But when I first heard this last year, I told my buddy that it is always the same thing. You can "Whoo Baby" and sound like Plant but can they write and play like Page, Jones and Bonham? Not even close on any level. No knock on the kids as very few other bands have ever come close either. But the material itself is not the greatest. Without the Plantisms, the songs would never have touched radio.

Time will tell how they evolve. For now they are just another in a long line of Zeppelin borrowers. Far more people have ripped off Zeppelin than they ever ripped off the blues guys. And for far more money but few ever look at it that way or mention it.

Kingdom Come

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2S1JKJqXvQ

Whitesnake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swPt9HBRXuE

Fastway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NGZttlZAVw



Artificial Plant! I agree that would make a good Plant tribute band.

I like what GVF is doing. Anybody keeping guitar classic rock music alive these days is okay with me. They are young, I am gonna give them some time. The guy can sing regardless of who he sounds like. I would take him in my band anyday.


WOW!!! Its probably been 30yrs plus since I have seen any of those videos. I remember reading something about Kingdom Come's guitar player saying never heard of Jimmy Page.
That gave Chuckle. I actually just re watched that Whitesnake video. It reeks of the 80's.!! Its funny, Coverdale scrapped that whole band that recorded it and brought in new players. I believe it was John Sykes,Neil Murray,Aynsley Dunbar on the recording and Aldridge,Sarazo,Campbell,Vandenberg in the video. Yeah, when I first heard that riff, it reminded me of Zep.

Here are the original versions from a really good Whitesnake album I like called Saints and Sinners.

Whitesnake - Crying in the rain (original)
https://youtu.be/M_lmViCV2To

Here I Go Again (Original Version) - Whitesnake
https://youtu.be/KgSYGbkOmu4


Bernie Marsden & Jon Lord - Here I Go Again
https://youtu.be/nyRjIoYjIUg


Moody, Marsden, Murray, Paice, Lord & Robert Hart- Ready 'n' Willing.
https://youtu.be/t3B7unD5k7I


Whitesnake - Dancing Girls (Saints An' Sinners)
https://youtu.be/8aqOVFgVMaA

 

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  posted on 5/17/2018 at 08:39 PM
This is a great post. I get what they're going after, but it just doesn't do it for me. I lived through the 70's and this is too derivative. The only bands I can think of that really drive hard rock today would be Umphrey's McGee and Moon Taxi.


 

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  posted on 5/18/2018 at 06:17 AM
I think they are pretty good. Zep influence? So what? Kind of obvious. Some folks here champion the fact that certain artists site Duane as an influence and claim it is nice. What's the difference there? Is imitation the sincerest form of flattery?

Perhaps not.

[Edited on 5/18/2018 by Lee]

 

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  posted on 5/18/2018 at 02:37 PM
I thought the EP's were solid. Will give the album a listen when it is released.

For guitar based rock music right now I'm really digging the Marcus King Band and White Denim. I'm also of the belief that Umphrey's McGee and Tedeschi Trucks Band are the two best rock bands on the road right now.

 

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  posted on 5/18/2018 at 07:41 PM
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I think they are pretty good. Zep influence? So what? Kind of obvious. Some folks here champion the fact that certain artists site Duane as an influence and claim it is nice. What's the difference there? Is imitation the sincerest form of flattery?

Perhaps not.

[Edited on 5/18/2018 by Lee]


Siting an influence and carbon copying them are two different things.

My main complaint about Greta Van Fleet is that everyone is championing them as the savoir of rock. They are the hot rock band of the moment, but I just don't hear the songs. It's all based on the singer coping Robert Plant, the kid is even doing the Song Remains The Same video Plant mannerisms as he sings. It's a little too on the nose. The sizzle is there, but I don't hear the steak in the music yet.

The singer gets a ton of publicity for being Artificial Plant and vocally the kid has one piece of early Plant vocals down, but it contains none of the nuances that Plant brought to the table. Musically the band is ok. Lyrically less than that. They aren't bad, but they aren't the band that is going to save rock right now. Maybe they will grow into it.

At the very least it is getting rock music some attention.




 

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  posted on 5/19/2018 at 06:26 PM
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/led-zeppelin-i-19690315

Led Zeppelin: Led Zeppelin I

By John Mendelsohn
March 15, 1969

The popular formula in England in this, the aftermath era of such successful British bluesmen as Cream and John Mayall, seems to be: add, to an excellent guitarist who, since leaving the Yardbirds and/or Mayall, has become a minor musical deity, a competent rhythm section and pretty soul-belter who can do a good spade imitation. The latest of the British blues groups so conceived offers little that its twin, the Jeff Beck Group, didn't say as well or better three months ago, and the excesses of the Beck group's Truth album (most notably its self-indulgence and restrictedness), are fully in evidence on Led Zeppelin's debut album.

Jimmy Page, around whom the Zeppelin revolves, is, admittedly, an extraordinarily proficient blues guitarist and explorer of his instrument's electronic capabilities. Unfortunately, he is also a very limited producer and a writer of weak, unimaginative songs, and the Zeppelin album suffers from his having both produced it and written most of it (alone or in combination with his accomplices in the group).

The album opens with lots of guitarrhythm section exchanges (in the fashion of Beck's "Shapes of Things" on "Good Times Bad Times," which might have been ideal for a Yardbirds' B-side. Here, as almost everywhere else on the album, it is Page's guitar that provides most of the excitement. "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" alternates between prissy Robert Plant's howled vocals fronting an acoustic guitar and driving choruses of the band running down a four-chord progression while John Bonham smashes his cymbals on every beat. The song is very dull in places (especially on the vocal passages), very redundant, and certainly not worth the six-and-a-half minutes the Zeppelin gives it.

Two much-overdone Willie Dixon blues standards fail to be revivified by being turned into showcases for Page and Plant. "You Shook Me" is the more interesting of the two at the end of each line Plant's echo-chambered voice drops into a small explosion of fuzz-tone guitar, with which it matches shrieks at the end.

The album's most representative cut is "How Many More Times." Here a jazzy introduction gives way to a driving (albeit monotonous) guitar-dominated background for Plant's strained and unconvincing shouting (he may be as foppish as Rod Stewart, but he's nowhere near so exciting, especially in the higher registers). A fine Page solo then leads the band into what sounds like a backwards version of the Page-composed "Beck's Bolero," hence to a little snatch of Albert King's "The Hunter," and finally to an avalanche of drums and shouting.

In their willingness to waste their considerable talent on unworthy material the Zeppelin has produced an album which is sadly reminiscent of Truth. Like the Beck group they are also perfectly willing to make themselves a two- (or, more accurately, one-a-half) man show. It would seem that, if they're to help fill the void created by the demise of Cream, they will have to find a producer (and editor) and some material worthy of their collective attention.

 

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  posted on 5/20/2018 at 12:13 AM
Ahhh,Rolling Stone, when they reviewed LAFE, they said it was "dull and uninspiring" . RS is the Tiger Beat for baby boomers.

 

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Jimmy Page, around whom the Zeppelin revolves, is, admittedly, an extraordinarily proficient blues guitarist and explorer of his instrument's electronic capabilities. Unfortunately, he is also a very limited producer and a writer of weak, unimaginative songs, and the Zeppelin album suffers from his having both produced it and written most of it (alone or in combination with his accomplices in the group).




Of all of the criticisms I've read of Page, many of them very valid, him being a limited producer and writer of unimaginative songs would be the one over time that would make this review seem silly in retrospect.

 

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  posted on 5/20/2018 at 10:35 PM
I have no problem mindlessly enjoying mindless music. I got a kick out of Wolfmother too.

Rock journalism has a tough time with issues like "Who will save rock?" It used to be "Who will be the new Dylan?"

In "recent" memory, ie. the last 25 years, lol, I can think of The Strokes and the Kings of Leon as bands that the press championed as being the return of old-school guitar-based ROCK. I was pretty darned underwhelmed by both. Oasis obviously was championed OR slagged as being Beatles Redux. I actually find their stuff very enjoyable in hindsight. Ballsy and catchy. Ditto the Black Crowes, initially slammed as a Stones rip-off but clearly having so much to offer.

It's only rock'n'roll but I like it.

Most "new-ish" bands that I enjoy tend to hearken back to older stuff. That means the bands that I have come across in my old man's way, like New Mastersounds (debt to the Meters), the Wood Brothers (debt to The Band), or Jack White's stuff (pick your influence), but also to bands that my kids listen to, like Fall-out Boy (debt to Michael Jackson), Panic! At the Disco (debt to Beatles), and Green Day (big debt to the Who).

There's not much new under the sun. And that's OK.


 
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