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  posted on 5/26/2019 at 09:11 AM
Bucks just don't have a finishing move yet. They made a huge leap from #8 to best record in the league this year, but Leonard and the Raptors have the experience. They dug deep, I can't remember 15-points leads feeling as tenuous as the Bucks' big leads the past few games. Great series, hope the Bucks and Giannis come back next year a little more fierce. Lopez seemed to be the only one who remembered what a "high percentage shot" is.

 

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  posted on 5/26/2019 at 11:36 AM
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Bucks just don't have a finishing move yet. They made a huge leap from #8 to best record in the league this year, but Leonard and the Raptors have the experience. They dug deep, I can't remember 15-points leads feeling as tenuous as the Bucks' big leads the past few games. Great series, hope the Bucks and Giannis come back next year a little more fierce. Lopez seemed to be the only one who remembered what a "high percentage shot" is.


I missed the two Bucks victories at the start of this series but watched every other game. The biggest thing I took away from it was something one of the announcers said yesterday and to be honest without that I wouldn't have picked up on it: "That shows a glaring weakness in Antetekoupo's game. He doesn't have a jump shot." This was right after a play when Giannis obviously wanted to drive to the hoop. Both options right and left were closed by the Raptors' defense. Giannis could have gone straight up and shot it, he was only maybe 15 feet out from the hoop. But truth is, he really doesn't have that option because that part of his game is non-existent. He had to give up the ball and if I'm not mistaken the possession ended in a shot clock violation.

The other thing I took away from that is that Nick Nurse (who I had never even heard of before this year) is probably a pretty damn good Coach. Antetekoupo is LETHAL driving to the hoop, in fact with the exception of Kevin Durant I don't know that I've seen a 6'11" player do some of the things he can do moving with the ball. But OH MAN, Kevin Durant can kill you with his jumper. That part of Giannis' game is non-existent at this point. So nurse coached the Raptors (brilliantly I might add) to take away the driving lanes for Giannis by double-teaming him. It worked to perfection in this series. Until Giannis develops a jumper he is going to be vulnerable, and do you think a few teams in the NBA are going to take something away from this series regarding how to defend him?

 

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  posted on 5/26/2019 at 02:45 PM
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"That shows a glaring weakness in Antetekoupo's game. He doesn't have a jump shot."

That was an old knock against Giannis maybe 3-4 years ago. It may not be as strong as Durant's jump shot, but Giannis has developed a pretty smooth and reliable one. He wasn't going to it much against Toronto, but he definitely nailed a few 3s the past couple games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8w1ELjE2ew

Here's an article that breaks down its evolution:
https://behindthebuckpass.com/2018/10/16/milwaukee-bucks-new-jump-shot-gian nis-antetokounmpo/

 

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  posted on 5/26/2019 at 08:13 PM
I haven't looked at the links porkchop because I'm not serious enough about this subject to spend that kind of time on it. I will say this: You say Giannis has a jump shot; I certainly don't remember seeing it hardly at all in the Toronto series. And if he does, I don't think he has enough confidence in it to use it when in a jam, like the incident I described with defense up in his face and driving lanes non-existent.

 

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  posted on 5/26/2019 at 09:22 PM
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I haven't looked at the links porkchop because I'm not serious enough about this subject to spend that kind of time on it.

Ha, uh ok. But you did write two paragraphs about it. I wasn't giving you homework, the Youtube link is literally a minute long, but sorry to waste your time with a subject you brought up Was just offering some info since we don't all have the time to pay attention to all of the games.

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I will say this: You say Giannis has a jump shot; I certainly don't remember seeing it hardly at all in the Toronto series. And if he does, I don't think he has enough confidence in it to use it when in a jam, like the incident I described with defense up in his face and driving lanes non-existent.

Yeah, I mentioned Toronto locked him down overall the past couple games, including his drives to through the paint (and his FTs apparently). But if you want to take your anecdotal, small sample size against a great defense, that''s cool it doesn't hurt my feelings, I'm still happy about a really great Bucks season. Giannis has been around 25-30% from 3-point line the past few seasons (including 18/55 for 32% in 15 2019 playoff games) after going 7/44 in 2014. Like I said, not Kevin Durant, but he has developed a shot.

I do think being a young team with the #1 seed hurt the Bucks - other than a Game 1 blowout to the Celtics, they didn't really face a challenge until Toronto. Meanwhile, Toronto had a tough series against Philly that fully prepared them to gut it out after going down a quick 0-2. Experience won out. And I'm glad the NBA now gives out the MVP after the season, because Leonard deserves it. Should be a good finals, it will be interesting to see how strong the Warriors come out after rest and a lesser opponent in the Blazers. They obviously have the edge, but the Raptors look hungry. And Don Nelson doesn't have to choose sides.

 

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  posted on 6/3/2019 at 08:28 AM
I am somewhat in shock that the Warriors pulled it out last night in Toronto.

1. Steph Curry played through it while obviously ill.
2. Klay Thompson injured during the game.
3. Kevon Looney injured during the game.
4. Durant still out.

The mark of a Champion...........against all odds, they won this one anyway. No one wants to get in an 0-2 hole. DeMarcus Cousins was just unreal last night and we would not have won without him. Looked like he never missed a game, and do NOT forget his defense!

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  posted on 6/4/2019 at 05:16 PM
I hate to agree, but I have too, perhaps the Warriors are just too much?............Peace.........joe
 

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  posted on 6/6/2019 at 09:58 AM
Seems like right now, untimely injury could become a major issue for the Warriors???.............joe
 

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  posted on 6/6/2019 at 10:40 PM
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Seems like right now, untimely injury could become a major issue for the Warriors???.............joe


Sure looks that way right now. But then again it's possible we could have both Klay and KD back tomorrow night. If so, this series could change quickly.

I'll say this, Warriors management is very smart, they never play a guy until the injury is healed and they've always been that way since this dynasty began in 2015.

 

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  posted on 6/7/2019 at 09:14 PM
Awesome 1st half here in this 4th game. Frantic and Frenetic, Durant's absence, I think evens the series, possibly still with a real slight GS edge?.........joe.......without Clay also, was to much strain on them to really be effective.
 

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  posted on 6/8/2019 at 08:47 AM
At 1-3 things looking quite grim in Warriorland. I have not given up hope however. We were down 3-1 to OKC in the playoffs several years back and won the series. It is quite evident to me however that we will need KD back to do it............

 

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  posted on 6/8/2019 at 11:00 AM
I said it at the start of the season.

Raptors

Close every year and then they made that trade for one of the best. Then LeBron was no longer a curse for them to deal with.

It is their year and home court advantage is something that GSW were used to. Losing the two at home will be hard to over come.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2019 at 08:19 AM
No excuses offered up from the Bay area this morning. Toronto is loaded with talent, very well coached, and they were extremely tough and stingy on defense. They gave Steph Curry a lot of fits in this series. Congratulations to the Raptors for the first Canadian NBA Championship!

I will say that the Warriors showed exactly what they are made of; this was a contest right down to the last minute of last night's game.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2019 at 08:52 AM
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No excuses offered up from the Bay area this morning. Toronto is loaded with talent, very well coached, and they were extremely tough and stingy on defense. They gave Steph Curry a lot of fits in this series. Congratulations to the Raptors for the first Canadian NBA Championship!

I will say that the Warriors showed exactly what they are made of; this was a contest right down to the last minute of last night's game.


You, and the entire Warriors organization, classy to the end.

Thrilled for the Raptors this morning.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2019 at 10:16 AM
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You, and the entire Warriors organization, classy to the end.


Thank You.

I wish every fan in Toronto could be labeled classy. Yeah, I know this has nothing to do with the Raptors team. And I'm sure that there are some really good fans in Toronto. That said, cheering in jubilation at Kevin Durant's injury is something I have never seen in all my years of watching sports, and I'm over 60 years old. CLASSLESS!!!! Yeah, I know, some will say, "That was a small minority of fans". Maybe so, but I was watching the game and the cheering was LOUD. It was NOT only 2 or 3 people.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2019 at 11:27 AM
Great win by Raps!!!

Not one fan in the audience or media member (that is jumping on Raptors fans) knew that KD blew out his achilles. He just fell, dropped the ball (creating a tuin over) and folks reacted. He shouldn't have been on the court in the first place. And everyone knew that.

To say this is a first in your 60 years seems a bit much. Folks have been laughing at Dallas Cowboys injuries for years.

Great series, I think if Klay didn't blow out his knee this series was going 7, who knows what happens then.

The interest, excitement and intrigue that this series created in Canada was massive. I even watched last 2 series from start to finish and I think along with many of my 50 something year old friends that basketball is a waste of good oxygen.

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  posted on 6/14/2019 at 03:28 PM
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Not one fan in the audience or media member (that is jumping on Raptors fans) knew that KD blew out his achilles. He just fell, dropped the ball (creating a tuin over) and folks reacted.


Disagree COMPLETELY. Durant immediately came up limping, it was obvious he was hurt. No one gets THAT excited over one turnover.

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To say this is a first in your 60 years seems a bit much. Folks have been laughing at Dallas Cowboys injuries for years.


Fine whatever you say. I personally have NEVER seen fans laugh at an injury. Not at the Dallas Cowboys or ANY other sports team. Doesn't mean it's never happened, but then I've never watched Dallas much either.

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  posted on 6/14/2019 at 04:46 PM
Raptors!

75 to 1 odds Baby!

Called it from the start of the season. I knew they were the team designed to beat GSW. 3 - point game plus big and strong inside. But it is the defense that really works. They beat GSW at home earlier this year and then 3 times in the series. No fluke there.

As for the fans Rob, some idiots, some caught up in emotion. But the TV cut. The cheer for KD as he exited was far louder than any boos were.

Personally at 75 to 1 odds, I was not heart broken but of course no cheer. Klay - gets carried off and then jogs out to take two shots? Let's just say that NBA and NHL players are not built the same. I love him and great shooter but this is Game 6 of the Finals. Again at 75 to 1, I didn't mind.

Great series. Great playoffs. Off season signings will determine a new landscape next season.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2019 at 01:47 AM
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Called it from the start of the season. I knew they were the team designed to beat GSW. 3 - point game plus big and strong inside. But it is the defense that really works. They beat GSW at home earlier this year and then 3 times in the series. No fluke there.


Uh-Huh. Show me a quote, ANY quote from here on this website where you predicted Toronto would go all the way before it actually happened. Anyone "knew" a LOT of things after a series is over.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2019 at 02:58 PM
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Called it from the start of the season. I knew they were the team designed to beat GSW. 3 - point game plus big and strong inside. But it is the defense that really works. They beat GSW at home earlier this year and then 3 times in the series. No fluke there.


Uh-Huh. Show me a quote, ANY quote from here on this website where you predicted Toronto would go all the way before it actually happened. Anyone "knew" a LOT of things after a series is over.


Sensitive today? LOL - I have quotes here, there any everywhere, Rob. Most important was my winning ticket from before the season began. Rob - I am a Raptors fan who has said they would win for three years now. Guess somehow it didn't bug you when I was wrong.

Stephen and I have had our whole East debate going for well over the season and into last year. The East was the real challenge this season and will be again next season for the Raptors.

The player that stood in their way was LeBron as Toronto always chokes against him. When he moved, the weight was gone. Then the Kawhi/Gasol trades took them up a notch.

Did I think Toronto was a favourite in the series against GSW? No one would be. The team that I hoped and believed was built to match and beat - GWS. None of Toronto's shooters match Curry or Thompson but collectively they match up. Then Toronto's big guys are to many and too strong especially with KD down.

This year was an obvious off year for GSW as home court was not even theirs. As I said, they had a hard time against Toronto all year.

Then they got outplayed.

For future reference, I always pick the Raptors. Win or lose.

 

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