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  posted on 4/13/2018 at 03:34 PM
Hearing a lot of rumbling from both sides of the aisle. I just hope the psycho-in-chief doesn't start WW3 before we can get rid of him. I don't care for Pence, but at least he is mentally normal.
 
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  posted on 4/13/2018 at 03:47 PM
I don't think its gonna happen. there is always grumbling from at least one side of the aisle but I get that all the embedded professional politicians don't like their little worlds upset.
Hey, in my mind he got rid of Paul Ryan so thats a good thing.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2018 at 03:52 PM
For the good of the country it can't happen soon enough. Not sure Repubs would have the balz to go against Trump, as they're afraid of his base; the same base that has not expanded and will not be big enough to prevent Blue Wave in November. Then we can have serious talks of impeachment unless Stormy takes him down sooner.

They used to talk about Trump becoming "unhinged". Looks like the temperature has gone up several degrees last two weeks, and look at Trump's reactions. What an unprofessional / paranoid pig we have in the White House. He's being hit from several angles, and all he does it threaten firing Republican appointees and firing off tweets. This is what we call leadership?

 

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  posted on 4/13/2018 at 04:01 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-apos-hometown-newspaper-033442670.h tml

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  posted on 4/13/2018 at 04:32 PM
Id say November.
 

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  posted on 4/13/2018 at 06:18 PM
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Id say November.


Yup, with the GOP in control of congress, they won't do anything to piss off their "base" before the election. It will be interesting to see what happens if their is a significant gap between Mueller's report being released and the election, and that assumes that the Mueller report uncovers something significant. If that happens, expect the Republicans to put overwelming pressure on Trump to resign so as to limit damage during the election.

 

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Yup, with the GOP in control of congress, they won't do anything to piss off their "base" before the election. It will be interesting to see what happens if their is a significant gap between Mueller's report being released and the election, and that assumes that the Mueller report uncovers something significant. If that happens, expect the Republicans to put overwelming pressure on Trump to resign so as to limit damage during the election.


Don't you think the damage is already done? The electorate is a lot different than the GOP that owns the House & Senate as well as the way the RNC works. The country has seen enough of what the Trump Experiment is. That's why many of the elections held in the recent 6 months have seen the Dems pushing out Republicans. It portends what will happen this fall.

Trump is in a bad place. If he fires any more high ranking officials, he will be seen as attempting to cover his past actions & possibly seen as MORE obstruction. On the other hand, more & more will be made public of what he's done & is hiding. Watch Mr. Cohen squeal.

For those like Trump who say "no collusion" - we really haven't seen much of what Mueller has on Trump...YET. On the other hand, the obstruction is evident. Trump in his own words admitted / implied this in firing Comey. And it goes on & on.

 

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Yup, with the GOP in control of congress, they won't do anything to piss off their "base" before the election. It will be interesting to see what happens if their is a significant gap between Mueller's report being released and the election, and that assumes that the Mueller report uncovers something significant. If that happens, expect the Republicans to put overwelming pressure on Trump to resign so as to limit damage during the election.


Don't you think the damage is already done? The electorate is a lot different than the GOP that owns the House & Senate as well as the way the RNC works. The country has seen enough of what the Trump Experiment is. That's why many of the elections held in the recent 6 months have seen the Dems pushing out Republicans. It portends what will happen this fall.

Trump is in a bad place. If he fires any more high ranking officials, he will be seen as attempting to cover his past actions & possibly seen as MORE obstruction. On the other hand, more & more will be made public of what he's done & is hiding. Watch Mr. Cohen squeal.

For those like Trump who say "no collusion" - we really haven't seen much of what Mueller has on Trump...YET. On the other hand, the obstruction is evident. Trump in his own words admitted / implied this in firing Comey. And it goes on & on.


Yes and no. I'd say it's pretty clear that the Republicans have all but lost the swing voters. But keep in mind, Trump still has around a 40% approval rating, and near cult like loyalty among his fans. Just look around here. People like Goober, Mule, and Gina will be loyal to the end, and no matter what they believe anything anti-Trump is automatically fake news. There could be a tape of Trump giving Putin the nuclear codes, and they would still support him.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2018 at 06:51 AM
I predict the Repubs will not impeach him. The only way we check Trump is by winning the House and the Senate. Even then there still will not be the 67 votes in the Senate required to impeach Little Donnie. However, a Democratic controlled Congress may be able to hamstring him somewhat until the 2020 presidential election whereupon he may lose.

The real problem for Trump lies in the fact that he cannot fire his way out of his legal troubles as even if the Mueller investigation completely crumbles, dies, ends, etc., the Mueller investigation has already led to multiple investigations signed off on by various federal judges, states attorney's general's, etc. that will not end with the demise of the Mueller investigation itself.

Essentially Trump is now caught in a Tsunami of legal problems that will not end any time soon. They potentially could go on for years and years while in office or out. It's this fact, when it finally dawned on him, that has most likely caused him to question why exactly he ever decided to run for office and why he's becoming ever more unhinged.

 

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Essentially Trump is now caught in a Tsunami of legal problems that will not end any time soon. They potentially could go on for years and years while in office or out. It's this fact, when it finally dawned on him, that has most likely caused him to question why exactly he ever decided to run for office and why he's becoming ever more unhinged.


The sad thing is that his "fixer", Mr. Cohen has now been fixed / neutered. Trump's personal issues prior to being elected will probably be exposed or validated. That leaves all of the non-personal issues. All the firings, tweets, and backing by state run TV (FOX) can only do but so much to limit his exposure and to run propaganda. We do have a legal system in this country, and the FBI is not there to promise loyalty and protect Trump in his illegalities.

 

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Essentially Trump is now caught in a Tsunami of legal problems that will not end any time soon. They potentially could go on for years and years while in office or out. It's this fact, when it finally dawned on him, that has most likely caused him to question why exactly he ever decided to run for office and why he's becoming ever more unhinged.


The sad thing is that his "fixer", Mr. Cohen has now been fixed / neutered. Trump's personal issues prior to being elected will probably be exposed or validated. That leaves all of the non-personal issues. All the firings, tweets, and backing by state run TV (FOX) can only do but so much to limit his exposure and to run propaganda. We do have a legal system in this country, and the FBI is not there to promise loyalty and protect Trump in his illegalities.


I agree....Many of the ongoing state and other federal investigations beyond Mueller's most likely would never have happened had Trump never fired Comey. I think the brilliance of Mueller and his "all star" team is that in fact they knew the actual special counsel investigation may be relatively benign in the end, (in fact, we never even hear the actual report as the Deputy Director of the FBI does not have to legally release it to the public, only to Congress) but by legally passing along other illegal Trump behavior via federal judges, state attorney's, etc., they've assured that perhaps Trump and his collaborators will be accountable on some level at some point in the future.

I think of particular note is just how thorough these referrals are being done to the letter of the law. The meticulousness with which they're securing search warrants, getting approvals by federal and state judges, sign offs by officials in the FBI, etc. speaks volumes as to how, in the end, their hoping to indite and potentially prosecute Trump. Maybe not while he's in office, but maybe someday.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2018 at 10:52 AM
Impeachment soon?

Not a chance.

For all the far-left crap never once has a crime been defined let alone committed.
With the Mueller probe failing to find any evidence of Candidate/President Trump "collusion" with Putin the corrupt liberal media has crawled into the sewers with fake tabloid trash.

President Trump won the election fair and square and the lefties simply emotionally or mentally handle it.

Get over it. You lost.


 

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  posted on 4/14/2018 at 11:08 AM
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. . . the lefties simply emotionally or mentally handle it.


Exactly correct.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2018 at 12:05 PM
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Impeachment soon?

Not a chance.

For all the far-left crap never once has a crime been defined let alone committed.
With the Mueller probe failing to find any evidence of Candidate/President Trump "collusion" with Putin the corrupt liberal media has crawled into the sewers with fake tabloid trash.

President Trump won the election fair and square and the lefties simply emotionally or mentally handle it.

Get over it. You lost.




A slow day at the St. Petersburg office today, Bot Boy? We're well beyond simple collusion, son, and onto past Trump illegal behavior. Your boys big mouth and incompetence has opened the floods gates and allowed the feds and state prosecutors to legally shine the light on decades of Trump illegal behavior. Try and keep up, little Bot Boy...

 

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  posted on 4/14/2018 at 01:34 PM
https://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/49527-this-might-be-the-cha rge-that-leads-to-trumps-impeachment

By Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Facebook Page

14 April 18

Special Counsel Robert Mueller is preparing a report on Trump's repeated attempts to obstruct justice in the Russia investigation, according to NBC News. Mueller is reportedly focused on:

1) The firing of former FBI Director James Comey. Last May, Trump fired Comey after demanding loyalty and urging him to drop the investigation into former national security advisor Michael Flynn.

2) Reports that Trump dangled the possibility of presidential pardons to former aides who might otherwise incriminate him to avoid conviction. Last summer Trump's lawyers secretly floated the idea of presidential pardons for Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn as Mueller prepared to bring charges against them, according to the New York Times.

3) Misleading statements about Don Jr. and Jared Kushner's meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya to obtain dirt on Hillary Clinton. Trump reportedly helped draft a deliberately misleading statement about the meeting.

4) Trump's attempts to stop Attorney General Jeff Sessions from recusing himself in the Russia investigation. Trump reportedly told White House chief counsel Don McGahn that he needed Sessions "to protect him" from the investigation.

The federal crime of obstruction of justice applies to “[w]hoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law” in a proceeding or investigation by a government department or agency or Congress. This might very well be the charge that ultimately leads to Trump's impeachment. What do you think?"


 

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  posted on 4/14/2018 at 04:02 PM
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Impeachment soon?

Not a chance.

For all the far-left crap never once has a crime been defined let alone committed.
With the Mueller probe failing to find any evidence of Candidate/President Trump "collusion" with Putin the corrupt liberal media has crawled into the sewers with fake tabloid trash.

President Trump won the election fair and square and the lefties simply emotionally or mentally handle it.

Get over it. You lost.




A slow day at the St. Petersburg office today, Bot Boy? We're well beyond simple collusion, son, and onto past Trump illegal behavior. Your boys big mouth and incompetence has opened the floods gates and allowed the feds and state prosecutors to legally shine the light on decades of Trump illegal behavior. Try and keep up, little Bot Boy...



Cute regurgitation of the far-left's talking points.

- collusion" is not a crime.
- you claim "decades of Trump illegal behavior" but cite not one actual crime.

The actual crimes were perpetrated by the Obama administration which are being investigated now.


 

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collusion" is not a crime.


True enough, unless the collusion is criminal in intent. You seem to be certain that Trump's collusion with Russia is non-criminal. Can you explain or post links that would help us see the Trump/Russian collusion in a more positive light?


 

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collusion" is not a crime.


True enough, unless the collusion is criminal in intent. You seem to be certain that Trump's collusion with Russia is non-criminal. Can you explain or post links that would help us see the Trump/Russian collusion in a more positive light?






No.

As evidenced by the complete failure of the Mueller probe to find anything, there was no collusion between Russia and Candidate/President Trump.

Outside of anti-trust issues collusion is not a crime and intent is irrelevant.

The link of course is U.S. Law.


 

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  posted on 4/14/2018 at 06:19 PM
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collusion" is not a crime.


True enough, unless the collusion is criminal in intent. You seem to be certain that Trump's collusion with Russia is non-criminal. Can you explain or post links that would help us see the Trump/Russian collusion in a more positive light?






No.

As evidenced by the complete failure of the Mueller probe to find anything, there was no collusion between Russia and Candidate/President Trump.

Outside of anti-trust issues collusion is not a crime and intent is irrelevant.

The link of course is U.S. Law.




You sure seem to know a lot about what Mueller has and hasn't found. How is that? There seems to be very few leaks from the Mueller probe. I'm wondering where you are getting all your inside information. Trump seems very worried about the investigation. You should send him an a email reassuring him that he has nothing to worry about based on all your inside knowledge.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2018 at 06:33 PM
I also love the Trump propaganda machine movin of the goalpost. Shall we review:

Russia never meddled in the election.

Ok, maybe Russia did meddle in the election, but nobody in the Trump campaign had any contact with the Russians.

Ok, maybe some people in the Trump campaign did meet with Russians, but it only had to do with orphans.

Ok, maybe when some people in the Trump campaign met with Russians, there were discussions on the having dirt on Hillary, but that's not collusion.

And now we have - collusion isn't a crime.

Yup, Trump and his associates are sure patriots. Some thought Benedict Arnold was a great patriot too. What's wrong with a little collusion?

 

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collusion is not a crime and intent is irrelevant.


Got it, thx. What you are telling us is: there was no collusion, but if there were it would be okay, because collusion is not a crime.

So you would be fine with Trump colluding with Russia, even though in your view, it did not occur.
Since it is not a crime, and "intent is irrelevant".



 

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collusion" is not a crime.


True enough, unless the collusion is criminal in intent. You seem to be certain that Trump's collusion with Russia is non-criminal. Can you explain or post links that would help us see the Trump/Russian collusion in a more positive light?






No.

As evidenced by the complete failure of the Mueller probe to find anything, there was no collusion between Russia and Candidate/President Trump.

Outside of anti-trust issues collusion is not a crime and intent is irrelevant.

The link of course is U.S. Law.




You sure seem to know a lot about what Mueller has and hasn't found. How is that? There seems to be very few leaks from the Mueller probe. I'm wondering where you are getting all your inside information. Trump seems very worried about the investigation. You should send him an a email reassuring him that he has nothing to worry about based on all your inside knowledge.


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You are correct. Mueller has kept things exceptionally tight. For Trump to constantly repeat "no collusion" is almost as if he knows he is guilty & an attempt to reassure himself and his base that he's not. Regardless of what State Run TV repeats and what trolls run with, when Mueller shows his hand or produces a report is when everyone will find out what Mueller concludes. Until then, for anyone to claim no collusion is naive and dogmatic.

The more evident case seems to be obstruction based upon Trump's own words to Lester Holt for firing Comey, his involvement in drafting of a lie on AF1 to cover the Russian meeting at Trump Tower, etc.

Patience is a virtue, and in time many things will come to light. If Trump is innocent in so many aspects of his personal life, professional life, & campaign, he surely acts like someone laced with guilt. If he is so innocent, he should let all actions run to conclusion and prove he is innocent as opposed to firing and threatening to fire his own appointees as well as lifetime GOP professionals.

 

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Got it, thx. What you are telling us is: there was no collusion, but if there were it would be okay, because collusion is not a crime.

So you would be fine with Trump colluding with Russia, even though in your view, it did not occur.
Since it is not a crime, and "intent is irrelevant".






"but if there were it would be okay"

"if", if", "if"...

Your circular logic fails again.



 

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Your circular logic fails again.


Ok, thx, I will just assume that by pointing out my logical failure, rather than clarifying your defense of the legality of collusion, that you actually feel that if there were any merit to the story of Trump's collusion with Russia, that collusion, while certainly not a crime in and of itself is unsavory at best, and likely a criminal conspiracy at worst.

I can respect that.

 

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Your circular logic fails again.


Ok, thx, I will just assume that by pointing out my logical failure, rather than clarifying your defense of the legality of collusion, that you actually feel that if there were any merit to the story of Trump's collusion with Russia, that collusion, while certainly not a crime in and of itself is unsavory at best, and likely a criminal conspiracy at worst.

I can respect that.




Don't think for a minute that any "collusion" occurred.

It has been fun to watch the left twist collusion into a crime but you will notice that they never name the crime.



 
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