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  posted on 2/8/2018 at 08:37 PM
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Just another sad, white christian conservative evil bigot hiding behind this "America First" / MAGA disguise.


Just curious, what percentage of the U.S. population do you believe this pathetic little man represents?

 

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Just another sad, white christian conservative evil bigot hiding behind this "America First" / MAGA disguise.


Just curious, what percentage of the U.S. population do you believe this pathetic little man represents?


Well, in 2016 there were 249,485,228 people over the age of 18 in the U.S. 62,984,825 people voted for him, so...25.245%?

 

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  posted on 2/8/2018 at 09:08 PM
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Just another sad, white christian conservative evil bigot hiding behind this "America First" / MAGA disguise.


Just curious, what percentage of the U.S. population do you believe this pathetic little man represents?


Well, in 2016 there were 249,485,228 people over the age of 18 in the U.S. 62,984,825 people voted for him, so...25.245%?


So, this is what all Trump voters espouse?

 

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  posted on 2/8/2018 at 09:31 PM
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Just another sad, white christian conservative evil bigot hiding behind this "America First" / MAGA disguise.


Just curious, what percentage of the U.S. population do you believe this pathetic little man represents?


Well, in 2016 there were 249,485,228 people over the age of 18 in the U.S. 62,984,825 people voted for him, so...25.245%?


So, this is what all Trump voters espouse?


That I don't know. But, I would say that a phrase like "all Trump voters" is just as ambiguous as "the Left."

 

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Just another sad, white christian conservative evil bigot hiding behind this "America First" / MAGA disguise.


Just curious, what percentage of the U.S. population do you believe this pathetic little man represents?


Well, in 2016 there were 249,485,228 people over the age of 18 in the U.S. 62,984,825 people voted for him, so...25.245%?


So, this is what all Trump voters espouse?

Nope, large percentage though. Vast majority.

Why do you sound like you're just now finding out the character of this whole alt-right thing that put Trump into power? It's been on full display for like 3 years now.


OK, I'll bite. What's the percentage? Please post references.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2018 at 10:41 AM
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Disagree with the left, express a dissenting opinion and you are ignorant, a racist or a bigot. This is exactly why President Trump is in the White House, people just got sick of the agenda. Preach tolerance, but don't practice it.


And when the players express a dissenting opinion from BIGV’s, he labels them disrespectful to the flag. Doesn’t that make you a liberal BIGV? Just another thread where BIGV is mistakingly accused of racism. Why does this keep happening to you? So misunderstood!

 

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And when the players express a dissenting opinion from BIGV’s, he labels them disrespectful to the flag.


I am just so mean.

 

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And liberal, apparently, by your own definition.
 

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Disagree with the left, express a dissenting opinion and you are ignorant, a racist or a bigot. This is exactly why President Trump is in the White House


So you’re saying Trump is payback?

 

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Disagree with the left, express a dissenting opinion and you are ignorant, a racist or a bigot. This is exactly why President Trump is in the White House


So you’re saying Trump is payback?


If the shoe fits. What I am saying is that prior to the Election, there was no dialogue, zero political discussion. People who despised Trump said so openly, sometimes moments into opposing opinion. Those participating in the process did not care to be shouted down for their beliefs and retreated into the voting booth w/o having told anyone for whom they were casting their vote. The Polls showed Hillary in a landslide. The negativity placed him there. The Hate and anger put him there. Read through this thread and see who is using the "Racist" card.

 

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If the shoe fits. What I am saying is that prior to the Election, there was no dialogue, zero political discussion. People who despised Trump said so openly, sometimes moments into opposing opinion.


The horror!

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Those participating in the process did not care to be shouted down for their beliefs and retreated into the voting booth w/o having told anyone for whom they were casting their vote.


So in order to counter and combat the mean, intolerant, juvenile liberals, the right decided to.........resort to the same thing?

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The Polls showed Hillary in a landslide. The negativity placed him there. The Hate and anger put him there. Read through this thread and see who is using the "Racist” card


Gee, I can’t imagine why anyone would think Trump is racist. So unfairly treated!

 

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Why is it always "the racist card" to mention racism?

 

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Why is it always "the racist card" to mention racism?


How else is it brought into a conversation?

 

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Some conservatives felt tormented and attacked by Obama being President, for whatever reason, and like BIGV said, decided to get payback by electing someone that would torment them back. I happen to agree with this assessment of what happened. It's not about Hillary since there were 18 other Republican candidates to choose from. They didn't want someone to enact conservative policies that they believe would help the country. They wanted someone who would torment the left instead. I think race played only a minor role in this whole scenario.

I truly don't believe liberals elected Obama to torment anyone. They just love the guy. Even Luke acknowledges this when he comes on here to make fun of the "Obama love affair". But more than one conservative on here - BIGV and KCJimmy, both acknowledged that Trump's presidency is an act of revenge. So, I think it's more of a sensitivity and fear issue rather than race. While the left was just electing someone they loved, the right felt attacked and threatened. The right was in a fight with the left, and the left didn't even know it.

 

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and like BIGV said, decided to get payback by electing someone that would torment them back. /-/ ...BIGV and KCJimmy, both acknowledged that Trump's presidency is an act of revenge.


My exact words were "If the shoe fits".

Point of Clarification, I am a Centrist Libertarian who does not match-up on every issue.....

But speak out against the left and you are a Conservative who supported Trump.

 

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Point of Clarification, I am a Centrist Libertarian who does not match-up on every issue.....


And only bashes the left, and says nothing negative about Trump supporters, not once. Freud might have something to say about that.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2018 at 07:53 PM
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You certainly argue like a Trump supporter.


I can't seem to put into words just how Anti-Liberal most of my belief systems are.

I believe in less Taxes & less Gubmint. I am Pro-Choice and love the dedication of the U.S. Military. I respect the Flag and believe in borders.

Classify me in anyway you wish.

 

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  posted on 2/10/2018 at 02:59 AM
Less gubmint was always historically a
classic leftwing liberal stance. I don't know how or when it became a conservative thing. The word "liberal" means exactly what it says.

Whole world's upside down these days.

 

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I don't know how or when it became a conservative thing.


It is definitely a Libertarian "thing".

 

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Makes sense - "liberal" and "libertarian" are practically the same word.
 

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I am Pro-Choice and love the dedication of the U.S. Military. I respect the Flag and believe in borders.


At face value I agree with all of this. But, since I'm a member of "the Left," I actually don't.

Oh well!

 

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People who despised Trump said so openly, sometimes moments into opposing opinion. Those participating in the process did not care to be shouted down for their beliefs and retreated into the voting booth w/o having told anyone for whom they were casting their vote.


No one on "the Right" would not and never does anything like this at all, ever. No one on "the Right" has spent any energy at all for almost 30 years openly hating the Clintons.

C'mon.

 

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So the people upset about Shaun White dragging the flag or stepping on the American flag following his gold metal run yesterday are racist...against red heads maybe, or...something? I mean it has to be right, what other possible explanation could exist for anyone to care, it's just some stupid symbol, just a piece of cloth that doesn't mean or represent anything, it has to be about race. Clearly.


 

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  posted on 2/14/2018 at 11:36 AM
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Maybe if you weren't so vague, beat-around-the-bush about your personal beliefs people wouldn't be so confused about where you stand.


What a dilemma, how do you get through the day ?...I mean being confused about a post on this site?...Must really slow you down.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2018 at 09:59 PM
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Just another sad, white christian conservative evil bigot hiding behind this "America First" / MAGA disguise.


Just curious, what percentage of the U.S. population do you believe this pathetic little man represents?


Well, in 2016 there were 249,485,228 people over the age of 18 in the U.S. 62,984,825 people voted for him, so...25.245%?


So, this is what all Trump voters espouse?

Nope, large percentage though. Vast majority.

Why do you sound like you're just now finding out the character of this whole alt-right thing that put Trump into power? It's been on full display for like 3 years now.


OK, I'll bite. What's the percentage? Please post references.

There is no accurate data available because, as mentioned above, people are generally not honest, forthcoming, or even self-aware about their racist and bigoted attitudes.

My estimate is based on my observation that Trump voters tend to be cut from the same cloth, speak the same and take up all the same issues, and get their information from the same sources and support a president who makes racially charged/bigoted statements on the regular. You don't see much diversity in the Trump crowd, I think my estimate is accurate.



[Edited on 2/9/2018 by LeafontheWind]


Then you basically made up the "large percentage" part of your post? If there are no figures, how did you come up with that response?

I voted for Trump. Not because I necessarily liked him, but I just couldn't in good conscious vote for Clinton.
My main mantra this election cycle was that I am an ABC voter (Anybody But Clinton). I know many blacks in the mid Ga area that said they would not vote for Clinton, but I couoldn't give you a statistic on any percentage since there are a lot more blacks in the area than the ones I know and talk with.

So there is a diversity in the Trump voter pool and if you ask around you will find that maybe some of the people you know were not as inbred into the democratic party and thought that maybe if we elect somebody so different from the usual politicians this time that we might get some better candidates next time around.

Go out and talk with people instead of daily trying to find fault with those who voted for Trump. Find someone who voted for him and ask (pleasantly of course) of why they voted for him. You might get some answers that you actually like.

 

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