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  posted on 2/8/2018 at 03:18 PM
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Why do racists and fascists get so upset and sensitive and all defensive when they are called on it?

Doesn't bother me at all when folks accuse me of what I am.


They are defensive because "racist" is a designation of evil, and these people want to consider themselves good souls so they can sleep at night and eventually get into heaven.

And so they come up with cute justifications for their racist ways.

Watch this guy, he's as racist/bigoted as they come and yet he just dances around it. Note he considers himself not a NAZI but rather an AMERICAN PATRIOT AND STATESMAN. He's active with some group called America First Committee, a registered Republican, and a Trump supporter.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-camerota-confronts-literal-nazi-running-fo r-gop-congressional-seat-in-insane-interview/

http://artjonesforcongressman.com/

Just another sad, white christian conservative evil bigot hiding behind this "America First" / MAGA disguise.

[Edited on 2/8/2018 by LeafontheWind]

 

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  posted on 2/8/2018 at 04:19 PM
The huge drop in TV ratings should get the NFL to embrace patriotism.
Remember, its all about the money.


 

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  posted on 2/8/2018 at 06:31 PM
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Why do racists and fascists get so upset and sensitive and all defensive when they are called on it?

Doesn't bother me at all when folks accuse me of what I am.


They are defensive because "racist" is a designation of evil, and these people want to consider themselves good souls so they can sleep at night and eventually get into heaven.
[Edited on 2/8/2018 by LeafontheWind]


Trump let us know that "there are very fine people on both sides" after Charlottesville. So...if he says it, and since his our omnipotent leader has the support of racists, then it must be true.

 

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  posted on 2/8/2018 at 06:40 PM
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The flag represents the country and the values it was founded upon. The national anthem is a rembrance to those who fought to defend the flag and the new fledgling nation against the tyranny it stood up against when it became a nation. It is also homage to those who died defending the idea that people here in this land had a right to certain freedoms and protections.



So what values? Slavery? Freedoms and protections? So you think it is ok that blacks are killed by cops for little to no reason? That is what they are protesting - those values and freedoms and protections are also supposed to apply to them..... but it sure doesn't feel like it to them.......


One thing you have to understand, when our country was founded, slavery was still going on. The flag itself does not mean people are still embracing slavery. The flag at its founding had nothing to do with slavery. It had to do with tyranny and interference from the British govt. in people's lives and unfair taxation. Those are the things this country was founded because of. People wanted freedom, rights.

It is not okay that any people are killed for little or no reason whatever their color, race, creed. Boycotting the national anthem is just wrong. If people want to address racism by police it is a separate issue. These are regional issues because it does not exist all over the country in every place.

 

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  posted on 2/8/2018 at 07:13 PM
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The flag represents the country and the values it was founded upon. The national anthem is a rembrance to those who fought to defend the flag and the new fledgling nation against the tyranny it stood up against when it became a nation. It is also homage to those who died defending the idea that people here in this land had a right to certain freedoms and protections.



So what values? Slavery? Freedoms and protections? So you think it is ok that blacks are killed by cops for little to no reason? That is what they are protesting - those values and freedoms and protections are also supposed to apply to them..... but it sure doesn't feel like it to them.......


One thing you have to understand, when our country was founded, slavery was still going on. The flag itself does not mean people are still embracing slavery. The flag at its founding had nothing to do with slavery. It had to do with tyranny and interference from the British govt. in people's lives and unfair taxation. Those are the things this country was founded because of. People wanted freedom, rights.

It is not okay that any people are killed for little or no reason whatever their color, race, creed. Boycotting the national anthem is just wrong. If people want to address racism by police it is a separate issue. These are regional issues because it does not exist all over the country in every place.



Nobody is boycotting the National Anthem.

 

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  posted on 2/8/2018 at 07:27 PM
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The huge drop in TV ratings should get the NFL to embrace patriotism.
Remember, its all about the money.




The defense department started the whole patriotism display with taxpayer money

The ratings were not a "huge drop" no matter how your feeble clownservative mind wants to think it was.


Nice try.

 

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  posted on 2/8/2018 at 08:37 PM
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Just another sad, white christian conservative evil bigot hiding behind this "America First" / MAGA disguise.


Just curious, what percentage of the U.S. population do you believe this pathetic little man represents?

 

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  posted on 2/8/2018 at 09:01 PM
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Just another sad, white christian conservative evil bigot hiding behind this "America First" / MAGA disguise.


Just curious, what percentage of the U.S. population do you believe this pathetic little man represents?


Well, in 2016 there were 249,485,228 people over the age of 18 in the U.S. 62,984,825 people voted for him, so...25.245%?

 

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  posted on 2/8/2018 at 09:08 PM
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Just another sad, white christian conservative evil bigot hiding behind this "America First" / MAGA disguise.


Just curious, what percentage of the U.S. population do you believe this pathetic little man represents?


Well, in 2016 there were 249,485,228 people over the age of 18 in the U.S. 62,984,825 people voted for him, so...25.245%?


So, this is what all Trump voters espouse?

 

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  posted on 2/8/2018 at 09:31 PM
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Just another sad, white christian conservative evil bigot hiding behind this "America First" / MAGA disguise.


Just curious, what percentage of the U.S. population do you believe this pathetic little man represents?


Well, in 2016 there were 249,485,228 people over the age of 18 in the U.S. 62,984,825 people voted for him, so...25.245%?


So, this is what all Trump voters espouse?


That I don't know. But, I would say that a phrase like "all Trump voters" is just as ambiguous as "the Left."

 

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  posted on 2/8/2018 at 09:32 PM
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Just another sad, white christian conservative evil bigot hiding behind this "America First" / MAGA disguise.


Just curious, what percentage of the U.S. population do you believe this pathetic little man represents?


Well, in 2016 there were 249,485,228 people over the age of 18 in the U.S. 62,984,825 people voted for him, so...25.245%?


So, this is what all Trump voters espouse?

Nope, large percentage though. Vast majority.

Why do you sound like you're just now finding out the character of this whole alt-right thing that put Trump into power? It's been on full display for like 3 years now.

 

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Just another sad, white christian conservative evil bigot hiding behind this "America First" / MAGA disguise.


Just curious, what percentage of the U.S. population do you believe this pathetic little man represents?


Well, in 2016 there were 249,485,228 people over the age of 18 in the U.S. 62,984,825 people voted for him, so...25.245%?


So, this is what all Trump voters espouse?

Nope, large percentage though. Vast majority.

Why do you sound like you're just now finding out the character of this whole alt-right thing that put Trump into power? It's been on full display for like 3 years now.


OK, I'll bite. What's the percentage? Please post references.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2018 at 08:42 AM
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Just another sad, white christian conservative evil bigot hiding behind this "America First" / MAGA disguise.


Just curious, what percentage of the U.S. population do you believe this pathetic little man represents?


Well, in 2016 there were 249,485,228 people over the age of 18 in the U.S. 62,984,825 people voted for him, so...25.245%?


So, this is what all Trump voters espouse?

Nope, large percentage though. Vast majority.

Why do you sound like you're just now finding out the character of this whole alt-right thing that put Trump into power? It's been on full display for like 3 years now.


OK, I'll bite. What's the percentage? Please post references.

There is no accurate data available because, as mentioned above, people are generally not honest, forthcoming, or even self-aware about their racist and bigoted attitudes.

My estimate is based on my observation that Trump voters tend to be cut from the same cloth, speak the same and take up all the same issues, and get their information from the same sources and support a president who makes racially charged/bigoted statements on the regular. You don't see much diversity in the Trump crowd, I think my estimate is accurate.



[Edited on 2/9/2018 by LeafontheWind]

 

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  posted on 2/9/2018 at 10:41 AM
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Disagree with the left, express a dissenting opinion and you are ignorant, a racist or a bigot. This is exactly why President Trump is in the White House, people just got sick of the agenda. Preach tolerance, but don't practice it.


And when the players express a dissenting opinion from BIGV’s, he labels them disrespectful to the flag. Doesn’t that make you a liberal BIGV? Just another thread where BIGV is mistakingly accused of racism. Why does this keep happening to you? So misunderstood!

 

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  posted on 2/9/2018 at 11:47 AM
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And when the players express a dissenting opinion from BIGV’s, he labels them disrespectful to the flag.


I am just so mean.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2018 at 12:02 PM
And liberal, apparently, by your own definition.
 

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  posted on 2/9/2018 at 02:02 PM
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Disagree with the left, express a dissenting opinion and you are ignorant, a racist or a bigot. This is exactly why President Trump is in the White House


So you’re saying Trump is payback?

 

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Disagree with the left, express a dissenting opinion and you are ignorant, a racist or a bigot. This is exactly why President Trump is in the White House


So you’re saying Trump is payback?


If the shoe fits. What I am saying is that prior to the Election, there was no dialogue, zero political discussion. People who despised Trump said so openly, sometimes moments into opposing opinion. Those participating in the process did not care to be shouted down for their beliefs and retreated into the voting booth w/o having told anyone for whom they were casting their vote. The Polls showed Hillary in a landslide. The negativity placed him there. The Hate and anger put him there. Read through this thread and see who is using the "Racist" card.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2018 at 02:55 PM
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If the shoe fits. What I am saying is that prior to the Election, there was no dialogue, zero political discussion. People who despised Trump said so openly, sometimes moments into opposing opinion.


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Those participating in the process did not care to be shouted down for their beliefs and retreated into the voting booth w/o having told anyone for whom they were casting their vote.


So in order to counter and combat the mean, intolerant, juvenile liberals, the right decided to.........resort to the same thing?

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The Polls showed Hillary in a landslide. The negativity placed him there. The Hate and anger put him there. Read through this thread and see who is using the "Racist” card


Gee, I can’t imagine why anyone would think Trump is racist. So unfairly treated!

 

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  posted on 2/9/2018 at 03:13 PM
Why is it always "the racist card" to mention racism?

 

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  posted on 2/9/2018 at 04:40 PM
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Why is it always "the racist card" to mention racism?


How else is it brought into a conversation?

 

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Why is it always "the racist card" to mention racism?

Because honest conversation about racism is not possible with conservatives because they think racism is this thing that was marginalized back in the 1960's and has no impact on society or politics today.

Even not-racist conservatives, which obviously do exist, seem to turn a blind eye to the prevalence of racism and bigotry today, because it diminishes their political standings on various issues.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2018 at 06:16 PM
Some conservatives felt tormented and attacked by Obama being President, for whatever reason, and like BIGV said, decided to get payback by electing someone that would torment them back. I happen to agree with this assessment of what happened. It's not about Hillary since there were 18 other Republican candidates to choose from. They didn't want someone to enact conservative policies that they believe would help the country. They wanted someone who would torment the left instead. I think race played only a minor role in this whole scenario.

I truly don't believe liberals elected Obama to torment anyone. They just love the guy. Even Luke acknowledges this when he comes on here to make fun of the "Obama love affair". But more than one conservative on here - BIGV and KCJimmy, both acknowledged that Trump's presidency is an act of revenge. So, I think it's more of a sensitivity and fear issue rather than race. While the left was just electing someone they loved, the right felt attacked and threatened. The right was in a fight with the left, and the left didn't even know it.

 

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Some conservatives felt tormented and attacked by Obama being President, for whatever reason

I think a big part of the racial component is right here. Obama the negro, Muslim, African president with no birth certificate talking down to the white folks with his perfect vocabulary and oratory skills. Empowering African Americans and BLM. Obama represented 8 years of white, Christian conservatives losing their standing in their own country.

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They just love the guy.

Embedded there is the other racial component. Declaring a ban on all Muslims, making immigration this huge overblown political issue that merely marginalizes immigrants and mostly Mexicans. They love that Trump was willing to stand up and be politically incorrect because for the last 8 years the white folk weren't allowed to talk like this. They also loved that talk because they knew it would piss the rest of us off.

Find me one Trump supporter who DOESN'T believe in Muslim ban, and who doesn't believe that Muslims are inherently evil. And IF you find this person, ask him WHY THE HELL he voted for Trump??

[Edited on 2/9/2018 by LeafontheWind]

 

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  posted on 2/9/2018 at 06:38 PM
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and like BIGV said, decided to get payback by electing someone that would torment them back. /-/ ...BIGV and KCJimmy, both acknowledged that Trump's presidency is an act of revenge.


My exact words were "If the shoe fits".

Point of Clarification, I am a Centrist Libertarian who does not match-up on every issue.....

But speak out against the left and you are a Conservative who supported Trump.

 

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