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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 08:55 AM
Who said I'm a liberal? I voted for Bush.
 

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Oh yes the "Food Stamp" President. Or... maybe America was ready for:
1. Lower unemployment
2. Higher wages
3. Stronger economy
4. Stronger foreign policy
5. Lower taxes (it's coming)


How is this relevant to my comment about their personal character? When did I talk about policy?

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Maybe the thought of MAGA was just more appealing to America than more of the same BS.


MAGA is meant to be open to interpretation. What does it mean to you? Just curious.

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It's ok to be upset, your side lost. We know, remember, elections have consequences? Almost as good as items 1 - 5 above (and then some) is getting to enjoy the meltdowns over here on a daily basis!


Meltdown? That's how you see it? Such a tired old act. It jumped the shark a long time ago. Anyway, there's something to be said about why so many people overwhelmingly chose Trump over the 17 other candidates. It speaks volumes actually, and I'm hoping to hear a Trump supporter explain their side of it.

I believe that the right-wing of America was utterly disgusted/threatened (whatever we want to call it) by Obama, in the same way they were threatened by the poise and influence of a peaceful MLK. Feeling like they were under attack for 8 years, they needed the exact opposite of Obama for payback. Obama was black, mature, kind, inclusive and professional. Trump is a genius and knew this. So he became the opposite they were looking for - white, immature, hostile, divisive, and unprofessional. That's why the election was over the day he made the comment about the Mexicans, as i predicted on this site that very day. The other side to this coin is that humans aren't designed to hear about every single horror story from all over the world on a daily basis, in detail, straight to the palm of our hands. Our minds are consumed with the world's problems, instead of being consumed with their real life in front of their faces - quality of home life, work, health, personal relationships, etc. Add social media incitement from both sides, and we're getting the cold civil war we see today.

 

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 09:24 AM
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Who said I'm a liberal? I voted for Bush.
I said it. Which Bush did you vote for? I am not sure that excuses you from liberalness. And people do change. I voted for Jimmy Carter

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 09:40 AM
W. Bush. I liked him. I would've voted Republican this time around, but not in a million years with Trump as the nomination - not because of any policy, but because he is a rude, ignorant, divisive pig, and that is more dangerous than you might believe.
 

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 10:46 AM
Hey Big V...? Serious question... I think you used to sell wine. Did you lose customers after you came out of the closet as Nazi?

 

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 05:51 PM
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Hey Big V...? Serious question... I think you used to sell wine. Did you lose customers after you came out of the closet as Nazi?


I believe I was asked earlier "Why Trump got the nomination"...The above "serious question" is exactly why. There was zero serious discussion about the election prior to. Anyone stating their support for Candidate Trump was absolutely shouted down.....Look through this thread and take note of who does the name calling, accusing & so forth. State an opinion contrary to the beliefs of Mr. Keller, Boynton Brother, Pops & Billy B. and the crap starts flying. Tolerance? Please. Who brought out the racism card? Who here asked about being a Nazi? Who referred to the President as scum?...Who called the President a Moron? Which person here defends Hostility? Who used the term "Cockroaches"? I was accused of "unraveling" and "getting bent" when no such thing occurred...Who in their right minds wants to engage in conversation when this type of ineffectual, infantile response awaits. All because your opinion is different.

This is why Mr. Trump won, this is exactly why.

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Which primary?


Go back and read the thread title.
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I have. May I add that the thread title is vague. Most states have "Primaries". The candidate with the most delegates is awarded the Nomination. The question clearly asks who won the primary, to which I replied "Which one"?

Here comes the old "You know what I meant" response. Clearly, for one who can be so quick to judge others for their opinions in what he believes to be clear, concise wording, surely getting the thread title correct should have been a walk in the park.



 

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 06:29 PM
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Oh yes the "Food Stamp" President. Or... maybe America was ready for:
1. Lower unemployment
2. Higher wages
3. Stronger economy
4. Stronger foreign policy
5. Lower taxes (it's coming)


How is this relevant to my comment about their personal character? When did I talk about policy?
My mistake. So if you have good character it doesn't matter if your policies suck? It is my opinion, and I am not alone, that our previous President suffered from both a lack of character and bad policies. This probably helped Trump win.

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Maybe the thought of MAGA was just more appealing to America than more of the same BS.


MAGA is meant to be open to interpretation. What does it mean to you? Just curious.
To me it means just what it says - Make America Great Again. This MAY still be the greatest country on earth but the USA suffered under the policies of Barak Obama (see the policy stuff). Trump is already moving us in the right direction and whether you admit it or not it is the democrats slowing him down. Question for you: What makes you so certain that "MAGA is meant to be open to interpretation"? It seems pretty straight forward to me.

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It's ok to be upset, your side lost. We know, remember, elections have consequences? Almost as good as items 1 - 5 above (and then some) is getting to enjoy the meltdowns over here on a daily basis!


Meltdown? That's how you see it? Such a tired old act. It jumped the shark a long time ago. Anyway, there's something to be said about why so many people overwhelmingly chose Trump over the 17 other candidates. It speaks volumes actually, and I'm hoping to hear a Trump supporter explain their side of it.

I believe that the right-wing of America was utterly disgusted/threatened (whatever we want to call it) by Obama, in the same way they were threatened by the poise and influence of a peaceful MLK. Feeling like they were under attack for 8 years, they needed the exact opposite of Obama for payback. Obama was black, mature, kind, inclusive and professional. Trump is a genius and knew this. So he became the opposite they were looking for - white, immature, hostile, divisive, and unprofessional. That's why the election was over the day he made the comment about the Mexicans, as i predicted on this site that very day. The other side to this coin is that humans aren't designed to hear about every single horror story from all over the world on a daily basis, in detail, straight to the palm of our hands. Our minds are consumed with the world's problems, instead of being consumed with their real life in front of their faces - quality of home life, work, health, personal relationships, etc. Add social media incitement from both sides, and we're getting the cold civil war we see today.
Dude you are totally confused. The RIGHT was threatened by MLK? Check you history son. Are you one of those that tries to attribute the Jim Crow Laws to Republicans? The right was fed up with Obama, you got that part right. And now you have President Trump. As for why America chose Trump over 17 other Republicans see my policy issues above and better yet READ THE POST ABOVE THIS BY BIGV. NAIL ON THE HEAD. This is a blast!

 

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 07:35 PM
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Look through this thread and take note of who does the name calling, accusing & so forth. State an opinion contrary to the beliefs of Mr. Keller, Boynton Brother, Pops & Billy B. and the crap starts flying. Tolerance? Please. Who brought out the racism card? Who here asked about being a Nazi? Who referred to the President as scum?...Who called the President a Moron? Which person here defends Hostility? Who used the term "Cockroaches"? I was accused of "unraveling" and "getting bent" when no such thing occurred...Who in their right minds wants to engage in conversation when this type of ineffectual, infantile response awaits. All because your opinion is different.


This is so weak and pathetic. Because I got angry and posted some name-calling, it means your entire theory about hating liberals is correct! Give us all a break from your melodrama. It's silly. Trump is tweeting like a maniac everyday while Obama never did such a childish thing. But the moment a liberal gets angry at the childish treason of our President, you equate the two. You are a joke! Stay at the kids table.

 

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 07:36 PM
Still waiting on your thoughts as to how/why he won the Republican nomination. It seems like you are terrified to get into it. Probably because you have nothing!
 

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 07:43 PM
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Dude you are totally confused. The RIGHT was threatened by MLK? Check you history son. Are you one of those that tries to attribute the Jim Crow Laws to Republicans? The right was fed up with Obama, you got that part right. And now you have President Trump. As for why America chose Trump over 17 other Republicans see my policy issues above and better yet READ THE POST ABOVE THIS BY BIGV. NAIL ON THE HEAD. This is a blast!


Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward. F policy and party. I have no issue whatsoever with Republican values. A bunch of pigs hijacked the party as far as I'm concerned. You think he won because of policy? He was talking about the wall at that time. Some policy! So in depth!

 

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 07:43 PM
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But the moment a liberal gets angry at the childish treason of our President, you equate the two.


So you are a Liberal?

 

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 07:45 PM
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Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward.


The above is why Trump won.

 

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 07:48 PM
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Still waiting on your thoughts as to how/why he won the Republican nomination.


At least you are now referring to it correctly as the Nomination and not the "Primary"....lol. Read my above post, I stated why I believe he won, typically, it is not the answer that fits your agenda so you will trash it. That's OK, I am quite used to that.

 

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The above is why Trump won.


So, how liberals behave drives the outcomes of elections?

 

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 07:59 PM
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The above is why Trump won.


So, how liberals behave drives the outcomes of elections?


In this case, I believe so, yes. I can not tell you how many times I witnessed this first hand. After telling people I did not like Clinton the response went something like this "How can you vote for that A$$ wipe"? my response was. "I am voting a Libertarian ticket, which means I am voting for Gary Johnson"...Response, "Well then, you are wasting your vote"... My reply "Disagree, I am participating in the process, but believe Trump will win"...Response "What!?...How can you support that &%$#*&&^?!".. "I am not" response, "He is an *^&^%&, I can't believe you like him"!....my reply "I don't, I am voting for Gary Johnson"...and so on....This became so commonplace that hardly anyone publicly claimed to support Trump leading to Clinton looking like a winner in the pols.....The Dems can blame themselves here; there was zero discussion about the Election because of the Liberal response, just read through this thread......

 

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Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward.


The above is why Trump won.


So, how liberals behave drives the outcomes of elections?


In this case, I believe so, yes. I can not tell you how many times I witnessed this first hand. After telling people I did not like Clinton the response went something like this "How can you vote for that A$$ wipe"? my response was. "I am voting a Libertarian ticket, which means I am voting for Gary Johnson"...Response, "Well then, you are wasting your vote"... My reply "Disagree, I am participating in the process, but believe Trump will win"...Response "What!?...How can you support that &%$#*&&^?!".. "I am not" response, "He is an *^&^%&, I can't believe you like him"!....my reply "I don't, I am voting for Gary Johnson"...and so on....This became so commonplace that hardly anyone publicly claimed to support Trump leading to Clinton looking like a winner in the pols.....The Dems can blame themselves here; there was zero discussion about the Election because of the Liberal response, just read through this thread......


Cool story, bro.

 

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 09:07 PM
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What are your thoughts as to why/how Trump won the primary?


Hi Boyton.
Thought I would quote your question and ask which state primary were you referring to.

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Found this map that you might find useful. It has the results from all the primaries and caucuses, both dem and gop.
https://www.politico.com/mapdata-2016/2016-election/primary/results/map/pre sident/

[Edited on 12/2/2017 by Jerry]

 

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 11:53 PM
BIGV's point is that when liberals went low, he decided to go lower...."this is why Trump won". Because liberals got mad (and I'm referring to your opinion of the liberal "problem", not myself) at a hostile, immature, bully making a mockery of our office, you equate the two? That's flat out stupid. Because liberals got angry at the brutal attacks on Obama, they are the same as the attackers? That appears to be your juvenile logic.

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 11:56 PM
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Hi Boyton.
Thought I would quote your question and ask which state primary were you referring to.

Start Edit:
Found this map that you might find useful. It has the results from all the primaries and caucuses, both dem and gop.
https://www.politico.com/mapdata-2016/2016-election/primary/results/map/pre sident/


Interested in offering your thoughts as to how/why Trump got the nomination instead? I already know the results.

 

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  posted on 12/1/2017 at 11:58 PM
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BIGV's point is that went liberals went low, he decided to go lower...."this is why Trump won".


You asked and I answered. If it does not fit your idea of logic, or your agenda, well that's tough.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 12:16 AM
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In this case, I believe so, yes. I can not tell you how many times I witnessed this first hand. After telling people I did not like Clinton the response went something like this "How can you vote for that A$$ wipe"? my response was. "I am voting a Libertarian ticket, which means I am voting for Gary Johnson"...Response, "Well then, you are wasting your vote"... My reply "Disagree, I am participating in the process, but believe Trump will win"...Response "What!?...How can you support that &%$#*&&^?!".. "I am not" response, "He is an *^&^%&, I can't believe you like him"!....my reply "I don't, I am voting for Gary Johnson"...and so on....This became so commonplace that hardly anyone publicly claimed to support Trump leading to Clinton looking like a winner in the pols.....The Dems can blame themselves here; there was zero discussion about the Election because of the Liberal response, just read through this thread......


Listen to yourself! "the liberal response" of being hostile and intolerant? You mean like PM'ing me to confront me about what I type here? Did I ever PM you about your content? No! But you sure PM'd me to complain about mine. Stop acting like you are better or any different - because you aren't. You should know the difference between daily hostility on Twitter, and people speaking out against it - it's not the same thing. To equate the two and claim hypocrisy is juvenile and foolish.

 

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In this case, I believe so, yes. I can not tell you how many times I witnessed this first hand. After telling people I did not like Clinton the response went something like this "How can you vote for that A$$ wipe"? my response was. "I am voting a Libertarian ticket, which means I am voting for Gary Johnson"...Response, "Well then, you are wasting your vote"... My reply "Disagree, I am participating in the process, but believe Trump will win"...Response "What!?...How can you support that &%$#*&&^?!".. "I am not" response, "He is an *^&^%&, I can't believe you like him"!....my reply "I don't, I am voting for Gary Johnson"...and so on....This became so commonplace that hardly anyone publicly claimed to support Trump leading to Clinton looking like a winner in the pols.....The Dems can blame themselves here; there was zero discussion about the Election because of the Liberal response, just read through this thread......


Listen to yourself! "the liberal response" of being hostile and intolerant? You mean like PM'ing me to confront me about what I type here? Did I ever PM you about your content? No! But you sure PM'd me to complain about mine. Stop acting like you are better or any different - because you aren't. You should know the difference between daily hostility on Twitter, and people speaking out against it - it's not the same thing. To equate the two and claim hypocrisy is juvenile and foolish.


I post an opinion about the Election and you become agitated. Too funny and if you doubt that, scroll through this thread, it ain't me Pal.

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Did I ever PM you about your content? No! But you sure PM'd me to complain about mine.


You mean last February?

 

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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 07:28 AM
Do me a favor and stop PMing me.
 

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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 07:30 AM
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The above is why Trump won.


So, how liberals behave drives the outcomes of elections?


I do think, and as BIGV explained in his response, that did happen in this particular election.

A lot of those who did vote for Trump cast an "in spite of" vote. You can see by the way that Boyton has behaved in this thread how that could occur.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 08:18 AM
Poor Boy-ton! He is on full tilt here all because people with different opinions didnt appreciate his clever thread title. Boyton if you want to know why Trump won go back and read some of the many threads I posted about jobs, the economy, and rejecting the political elite class like Jeb! Now I know this admission only solidifies your opinion that I must be a racist, misogynist, low -info, homophobe, scared of brown people, and I secretly polish my swastikas and iron my sheets for rallies and own tiki torch oil for alterior reasons.

...and of course illegal immigration. After decades of being told that the border is secure by both democrats and republicans ( many of which were gunning for the nomination) while droves of people flooded into the US unchecked.

[Edited on 12/2/2017 by OriginalGoober]

 

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