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  posted on 10/4/2017 at 06:34 PM
Stephen Paddock at an Anti-Trump rally:


Why is the media mostly using this photo:


Ties to ISIS have not been completely ruled out:
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-has-no-idea-if-las-vegas-shooting-was-isis-de spite-expert-doubts-677172

THe more we learn, the more it seems like the bumbling oaf Paddock actually planned out a very meticulous attack.





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  posted on 10/4/2017 at 06:44 PM
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Not the same guy. Nice try.

 

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  posted on 10/4/2017 at 07:53 PM

Press conference that ended at 8:40 PM EDT Sherriff hinted that he had a secret life, very probable he had an accomplice, and he had plans to escape and not get caught.

 

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  posted on 10/4/2017 at 08:10 PM
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Why is the media mostly using this photo:






Not so quick there JK.The photo maybe.However a CIA agent said tonight that sources he had had said that there were political tie's to a motive in the mix of thing's.Of course that was cut short,interview switched to the other guest,and never came back to the CIA agent.Also saw an interview tonight with Scaliese and 3 other senator's.And one of the question's was on gun control,banning semi auto rifle's etc.Every one of their responses was pro gun.1 even said the 2'nd is not about hunting,target shooting etc.It was and is about the people being able to have weaponry against a tyrany govt.Yeah,yeah yeah,i know citizen's are no match for the military.Rather be armed than not though.
The left will run this gun gig in the ground.Left,right,middle etc etc.What a buncha crock.It ain't about gun's!It;s about the heart.Society is spoiled,sick and twisted.Hussein said he would transform this nation,& he damn sure did.
One extra note here to the grammar correction queen's.Ya wanna grade on comma's etc?Go get a part time job at a summer school & use your talent.An old road dog of 60 could care less about your kiddie jab's.Ya dig?

 

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  posted on 10/4/2017 at 08:21 PM
No, I don't dig. You couldn't care less but yet you ended your unintelligible rant with your defense of it, LOL.
 

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  posted on 10/4/2017 at 09:10 PM
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Press conference that ended at 8:40 PM EDT Sherriff hinted that he had a secret life, very probable he had an accomplice, and he had plans to escape and not get caught.


Let's just say that your hypothesis is correct. Let's say he was anti-Trump. Why would he kill people at a country festival where most of the artists and audience would lean conservative? The police also said he had rented a condo overlooking the Life Is Beautiful Festival just a couple of weeks earlier. That was a younger and more liberal group. Why didn't he do it then? As for an escape, he didn't plan on escaping. He killed himself before the police entered his room.

 

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  posted on 10/4/2017 at 09:11 PM
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Stephen Paddock at an Anti-Trump rally:


Why is the media mostly using this photo:






Not so quick there JK.The photo maybe.However a CIA agent said tonight that sources he had had said that there were political tie's to a motive in the mix of thing's.Of course that was cut short,interview switched to the other guest,and never came back to the CIA agent.Also saw an interview tonight with Scaliese and 3 other senator's.And one of the question's was on gun control,banning semi auto rifle's etc.Every one of their responses was pro gun.1 even said the 2'nd is not about hunting,target shooting etc.It was and is about the people being able to have weaponry against a tyrany govt.Yeah,yeah yeah,i know citizen's are no match for the military.Rather be armed than not though.
The left will run this gun gig in the ground.Left,right,middle etc etc.What a buncha crock.It ain't about gun's!It;s about the heart.Society is spoiled,sick and twisted.Hussein said he would transform this nation,& he damn sure did.
One extra note here to the grammar correction queen's.Ya wanna grade on comma's etc?Go get a part time job at a summer school & use your talent.An old road dog of 60 could care less about your kiddie jab's.Ya dig?




The CIA is not involved in this investigation.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 07:32 AM
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Stephen Paddock at an Anti-Trump rally:


Why is the media mostly using this photo:






Not so quick there JK.The photo maybe.However a CIA agent said tonight that sources he had had said that there were political tie's to a motive in the mix of thing's.Of course that was cut short,interview switched to the other guest,and never came back to the CIA agent.Also saw an interview tonight with Scaliese and 3 other senator's.And one of the question's was on gun control,banning semi auto rifle's etc.Every one of their responses was pro gun.1 even said the 2'nd is not about hunting,target shooting etc.It was and is about the people being able to have weaponry against a tyrany govt.Yeah,yeah yeah,i know citizen's are no match for the military.Rather be armed than not though.
The left will run this gun gig in the ground.Left,right,middle etc etc.What a buncha crock.It ain't about gun's!It;s about the heart.Society is spoiled,sick and twisted.Hussein said he would transform this nation,& he damn sure did.
One extra note here to the grammar correction queen's.Ya wanna grade on comma's etc?Go get a part time job at a summer school & use your talent.An old road dog of 60 could care less about your kiddie jab's.Ya dig?




The CIA is not involved in this investigation.


Our resident imbecile doesn't know that the CIA functions only on foreign investigations, the FBI handles in country.

Once he has someone look up what an imbecile is, he'll be back to insult.

Of course he blamed Obama for this.

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 08:06 AM
Shame on you, Goober. The Anti-Trump rally photo is NOT Paddock. Spreading bullsh1t that you desperately want to be true to is completely irresponsible.

http://www.snopes.com/las-vegas-shooter-trump-protest/


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The aftermath of a mass shooting is often a springboard for misinformation as ordinary citizens attempt to do their own investigative work. Such was the case in October 2017 after a gunman shot and killed more than 50 people and injured hundreds more from his hotel room in Las Vegas. When police identified the gunman as a 64-year-old white man with no criminal history or immediately apparent ties to a terrorist organization such as ISIS, some appeared to have a hard time rationalizing how he could commit such a deadly act (though some news reports pointed out that in fact most U.S. mass shootings are committed by white males):

Online conspiracy theorists soon started offering alternative explanations for the shooting. InfoWars host Alex Jones claimed (without evidence) that the event had been “scripted by deep state Democrats and their Islamic allies using mental patient cut-outs.” A fake “Melbourne Antifa” Twitter account (which has no affiliation with a real antifa, or anti-fascist, group) claimed the gunman was a comrade.

Various threads on 4chan and the reddit group r/The_Donald pushed the narrative that he had been spotted at an anti-Trump rally, and thus was a “commie” or “leftist.” This claim was promoted by far-right blogger Pamela Geller in an article offering photographic “proof” that the Las Vegas shooting was an act of “left-wing violence”:


But was the man wearing the iconic pink hats with cat ears in the above photo really the Las Vegas shooter? The evidence supporting this theory is flimsy at best.

First, the claim is largely based on a series of blurry images. As of this writing, only two photographs of the accused gunman have been released. One shows him with his eyes closed, and the other was taken several years prior to the attack in Las Vegas. The still shots of the protester were captured from various videos showing an anti-Trump demonstration in August 2017, and are small, low-resolution, and difficult to see.

Here’s the best comparison we could create of photographs allegedly depicting the same man in these two different contexts:

Although these images are blurry, one can spot noticeable differences, such as the two men’s eyebrows (the accused gunman had light eyebrows, while the protester’s eyebrows are dark) and earlobes (the bottom of the gunman’s earlobes are attached, whereas the protester’s appear detached). Even if the man in pink was indeed the Las Vegas shooter, it would be nearly impossible to identify him from this photograph alone.

It’s as if conspiracy theorists simply searched for photographs of an anti-Trump protester who shared the shooter’s approximate age, race, and gender in order to push the narrative that the latter’s actions were politically motivated. In fact, another video purportedly showing the Las Vegas gunman at an anti-Trump rally identified an entirely different person:


Although this individual is also white, middle-aged, and male, there’s no evidence to suggest that he is the same man who committed the shootings.

The claim was also frequently accompanied by two other supporting pieces of “evidence”: A woman can apparently be heard saying “Hi Steve” in one video of the protest (law enforcement officials say the shooter’s first name was “Stephen”), and the gunman “lookalike” can be seen wearing a NASA t-shirt:

Although we’re not positive what the woman actually said in the video (or which woman actually said it), that a man’s first name is “Steve” is not sufficient to identify him as the Las Vegas shooter. In fact, the name “Steve” peaked in popularity in the late 50s and early 60s, when a man of the gunman’s approximate age would have been born.

The fact that this protester was wearing a NASA shirt was deemed noteworthy after internet sleuths uncovered a news article listing someone with the same first and last name as the shooter’s as a member of the NASA team preparing for a Mars mission. Although credible news reports have stated that the gunman once worked for Lockheed Martin, one of NASA’s prime contractors, we have not been able to confirm that he ever held a position at the space agency itself. Regardless, pink NASA t-shirts are not available exclusively to former NASA employees.

The Las Vegas shooter was not positively identified at an anti-Trump protest in August 2017. This theory was based on assumptions, baseless leaps of logic, and little to no evidence. It also pushed a narrative that doesn’t match any information thus far released by the authorities. As of this writing, police, journalists, and the gunman’s family are still trying to figure out his motives. His brother, Eric, said that his sibling had no political or religious affiliations at all:

If you told me an asteroid fell into Earth, it would mean the same to me. There’s absolutely no sense, no reason he did this . . . He’s just a guy who played video poker and took cruises and ate burritos at Taco Bell. There’s no political affiliation that we know of. There’s no religious affiliation that we know of.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 08:46 AM

"Although these images are blurry, one can spot noticeable differences, such as the two men’s eyebrows (the accused gunman had light eyebrows, while the protester’s eyebrows are dark) and earlobes (the bottom of the gunman’s earlobes are attached, whereas the protester’s appear detached). Even if the man in pink was indeed the Las Vegas shooter, it would be nearly impossible to identify him from this photograph alone.

It’s as if conspiracy theorists simply searched for photographs of an anti-Trump protester who shared the shooter’s approximate age, race, and gender in order to push the narrative that the latter’s actions were politically motivated. In fact, another video purportedly showing the Las Vegas gunman at an anti-Trump rally identified an entirely different person:"

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Yep. This is pretty pathetic. It is amazing how many people are willing to just float on over to fantasy-land.

 

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"Although these images are blurry, one can spot noticeable differences, such as the two men’s eyebrows (the accused gunman had light eyebrows, while the protester’s eyebrows are dark) and earlobes (the bottom of the gunman’s earlobes are attached, whereas the protester’s appear detached). Even if the man in pink was indeed the Las Vegas shooter, it would be nearly impossible to identify him from this photograph alone.

It’s as if conspiracy theorists simply searched for photographs of an anti-Trump protester who shared the shooter’s approximate age, race, and gender in order to push the narrative that the latter’s actions were politically motivated. In fact, another video purportedly showing the Las Vegas gunman at an anti-Trump rally identified an entirely different person:"

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Yep. This is pretty pathetic. It is amazing how many people are willing to just float on over to fantasy-land.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 08:58 AM
We all know Goober's motive in spreading this BS. Pretty obvious. Sad.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 09:40 AM
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We all know Goober's motive in spreading this BS. Pretty obvious. Sad.


Not to mention there's all kinds of crazy gun hoarding liberals in Nevada....LOL....Goober obviously doesn't know the demographic of the state of NV

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 05:42 PM
What is troubling about this, is that they better find out WHAT the motive was. I read an article that said he had booked another hotel room for later in the month at another country music festival. Another article said that he had planned to escape this current shooting, but apparently when he realized SWAT was on the way, he killed himself to elude capture.

So he wanted to do more than one mass shooting, at two separate country music festivals. WHY country music? WHY two separate country music festivals within the same month? It does not seem like a random shooting anymore.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 07:25 PM
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Why is the media mostly using this photo:






Not so quick there JK.The photo maybe.However a CIA agent said tonight that sources he had had said that there were political tie's to a motive in the mix of thing's.Of course that was cut short,interview switched to the other guest,and never came back to the CIA agent.Also saw an interview tonight with Scaliese and 3 other senator's.And one of the question's was on gun control,banning semi auto rifle's etc.Every one of their responses was pro gun.1 even said the 2'nd is not about hunting,target shooting etc.It was and is about the people being able to have weaponry against a tyrany govt.Yeah,yeah yeah,i know citizen's are no match for the military.Rather be armed than not though.
The left will run this gun gig in the ground.Left,right,middle etc etc.What a buncha crock.It ain't about gun's!It;s about the heart.Society is spoiled,sick and twisted.Hussein said he would transform this nation,& he damn sure did.
One extra note here to the grammar correction queen's.Ya wanna grade on comma's etc?Go get a part time job at a summer school & use your talent.An old road dog of 60 could care less about your kiddie jab's.Ya dig?




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Not so quick there JK.The photo maybe.However a CIA agent said tonight that sources he had had said that there were political tie's to a motive in the mix of thing's.Of course that was cut short,interview switched to the other guest,and never came back to the CIA agent.Also saw an interview tonight with Scaliese and 3 other senator's.And one of the question's was on gun control,banning semi auto rifle's etc.Every one of their responses was pro gun.1 even said the 2'nd is not about hunting,target shooting etc.It was and is about the people being able to have weaponry against a tyrany govt.Yeah,yeah yeah,i know citizen's are no match for the military.Rather be armed than not though.
The left will run this gun gig in the ground.Left,right,middle etc etc.What a buncha crock.It ain't about gun's!It;s about the heart.Society is spoiled,sick and twisted.Hussein said he would transform this nation,& he damn sure did.
One extra note here to the grammar correction queen's.Ya wanna grade on comma's etc?Go get a part time job at a summer school & use your talent.An old road dog of 60 could care less about your kiddie jab's.Ya dig?




You lost me. You are supporting government officials' quotes in a paranoid rant about not trusting the government.

I think that is what is going on in there, but only after I found a dyslexic goat who flunked second grade to translate that paragraph.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 08:36 PM
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Not so quick there JK.The photo maybe.However a CIA agent said tonight that sources he had had said that there were political tie's to a motive in the mix of thing's.Of course that was cut short,interview switched to the other guest,and never came back to the CIA agent.Also saw an interview tonight with Scaliese and 3 other senator's.And one of the question's was on gun control,banning semi auto rifle's etc.Every one of their responses was pro gun.1 even said the 2'nd is not about hunting,target shooting etc.It was and is about the people being able to have weaponry against a tyrany govt.Yeah,yeah yeah,i know citizen's are no match for the military.Rather be armed than not though.
The left will run this gun gig in the ground.Left,right,middle etc etc.What a buncha crock.It ain't about gun's!It;s about the heart.Society is spoiled,sick and twisted.Hussein said he would transform this nation,& he damn sure did.
One extra note here to the grammar correction queen's.Ya wanna grade on comma's etc?Go get a part time job at a summer school & use your talent.An old road dog of 60 could care less about your kiddie jab's.Ya dig?




You lost me. You are supporting government officials' quotes in a paranoid rant about not trusting the government.

I think that is what is going on in there, but only after I found a dyslexic goat who flunked second grade to translate that paragraph.


Bottom line here is luke is a paranoid racist fool that spews his anti-Obama garbage on this site.

Every time he posts this crap he shows how ignorant he is.

 

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  posted on 10/7/2017 at 09:31 AM

Doesnt seem like a door that would have 200 rounds shot thru it?



Paddock fired well over 200 rounds into the hotel hallway but Campos was only struck in the leg, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Thursday. "It's amazing that [Campos] didn't sustain an additional injury," he said.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jesus-campos-las-vegas-shooting-police-reveal- new-details-about-hero-security-guard/

 

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Doesnt seem like a door that would have 200 rounds shot thru it?



Paddock fired well over 200 rounds into the hotel hallway but Campos was only struck in the leg, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Thursday. "It's amazing that [Campos] didn't sustain an additional injury," he said.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jesus-campos-las-vegas-shooting-police-reveal- new-details-about-hero-security-guard/




Look again, Goob. That is a double door and the top half on the left is completely gone.

 

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  posted on 10/7/2017 at 12:13 PM
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Stephen Paddock at an Anti-Trump rally:


Why is the media mostly using this photo:






Not so quick there JK.The photo maybe.However a CIA agent said tonight that sources he had had said that there were political tie's to a motive in the mix of thing's.Of course that was cut short,interview switched to the other guest,and never came back to the CIA agent.Also saw an interview tonight with Scaliese and 3 other senator's.And one of the question's was on gun control,banning semi auto rifle's etc.Every one of their responses was pro gun.1 even said the 2'nd is not about hunting,target shooting etc.It was and is about the people being able to have weaponry against a tyrany govt.Yeah,yeah yeah,i know citizen's are no match for the military.Rather be armed than not though.
The left will run this gun gig in the ground.Left,right,middle etc etc.What a buncha crock.It ain't about gun's!It;s about the heart.Society is spoiled,sick and twisted.Hussein said he would transform this nation,& he damn sure did.
One extra note here to the grammar correction queen's.Ya wanna grade on comma's etc?Go get a part time job at a summer school & use your talent.An old road dog of 60 could care less about your kiddie jab's.Ya dig?




The CIA is not involved in this investigation.


Our resident imbecile doesn't know that the CIA functions only on foreign investigations, the FBI handles in country.

Once he has someone look up what an imbecile is, he'll be back to insult.

Of course he blamed Obama for this.

Some things never change.


In an official capacity the CIA only operates on foreign matters, but we all know, current and former officers as well as operatives have specialized knowledge of guns, weaponry, targeting and assassinating people, when they give their opinions on things they find to be wrong with the official story, those opinions should be considered.

With regards to the FBI, the swamp still needs to be drained, including the crooked FBI officers who told Joe Bellone, NYFDNY to eff off at the 9-11 site when from what he saw, he believed they were taking and hiding evidence. He wrote a book about his experiences that day.



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  posted on 10/7/2017 at 12:15 PM
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Press conference that ended at 8:40 PM EDT Sherriff hinted that he had a secret life, very probable he had an accomplice, and he had plans to escape and not get caught.


Let's just say that your hypothesis is correct. Let's say he was anti-Trump. Why would he kill people at a country festival where most of the artists and audience would lean conservative? The police also said he had rented a condo overlooking the Life Is Beautiful Festival just a couple of weeks earlier. That was a younger and more liberal group. Why didn't he do it then? As for an escape, he didn't plan on escaping. He killed himself before the police entered his room.


He was a real estate tycoon, made tons of money in it. Might have laundered money for federal agents, made bad investment deals, anything is possible. He could have also just been a patsy or someone that some federal person wanted to frame and assassinate. The question of how did he fire 27 rifles all by himself to kill all those people has not been answered. The question of why it took the police 72 minutes to come to an active shooter situation when they were one mile away needs an answer too. Were they told the stand down?

 

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Press conference that ended at 8:40 PM EDT Sherriff hinted that he had a secret life, very probable he had an accomplice, and he had plans to escape and not get caught.


Let's just say that your hypothesis is correct. Let's say he was anti-Trump. Why would he kill people at a country festival where most of the artists and audience would lean conservative? The police also said he had rented a condo overlooking the Life Is Beautiful Festival just a couple of weeks earlier. That was a younger and more liberal group. Why didn't he do it then? As for an escape, he didn't plan on escaping. He killed himself before the police entered his room.


He was a real estate tycoon, made tons of money in it. Might have laundered money for federal agents, made bad investment deals, anything is possible. He could have also just been a patsy or someone that some federal person wanted to frame and assassinate. The question of how did he fire 27 rifles all by himself to kill all those people has not been answered. The question of why it took the police 72 minutes to come to an active shooter situation when they were one mile away needs an answer too. Were they told the stand down?


Oh good. More rumors from gina. The police have said repeatedly that they don't know the motive.

 

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Maybe this is the motive.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/isis-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-004312350.html

The new publication now specified that Paddock, who the group dubbed Abu Abdul Barr al-Amriki, had allegedly "converted to Islam six months ago" and provided a play-by-play of Sunday's bloodshed.

"A soldier of the caliphate attacked a gathering of 22,000 Americans at a concert in the city of Las Vegas, resulting in nearly 60 killed and 600 injured, " Al-Naba states, later erroneously stating the death toll at 59, instead of the revised count of 58.

"Brother Abu Abdul Bar stationed himself in a room on the 32nd floor of a hotel overlooking the concert and opened fire continuously on the crowds using 23 firearms and more than 2,000 bullets and died, may God accept him, after running out of ammunition," it added

Remarks: Authorities discount Isis claim, but the thing is Muslims do not go around lieing. The other thing is that he planned on going to Chicago to another concert (per news reports) later in the month and probably doing the same thing. Most mass murderers that we are used to in this country usually do one event and then get shot by the police or shoot themselves, he planned to keep on going doing these shootings.

 

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Maybe this is the motive.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/isis-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-004312350.html

The new publication now specified that Paddock, who the group dubbed Abu Abdul Barr al-Amriki, had allegedly "converted to Islam six months ago" and provided a play-by-play of Sunday's bloodshed.

"A soldier of the caliphate attacked a gathering of 22,000 Americans at a concert in the city of Las Vegas, resulting in nearly 60 killed and 600 injured, " Al-Naba states, later erroneously stating the death toll at 59, instead of the revised count of 58.

"Brother Abu Abdul Bar stationed himself in a room on the 32nd floor of a hotel overlooking the concert and opened fire continuously on the crowds using 23 firearms and more than 2,000 bullets and died, may God accept him, after running out of ammunition," it added

Remarks: Authorities discount Isis claim, but the thing is Muslims do not go around lieing. The other thing is that he planned on going to Chicago to another concert (per news reports) later in the month and probably doing the same thing. Most mass murderers that we are used to in this country usually do one event and then get shot by the police or shoot themselves, he planned to keep on going doing these shootings.




Muslims lie all the time. He had nothing to do with Islam. Are you saying tha5 you know more than the Las Vegas Police? Mor3 than the FBI?

 

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  posted on 10/7/2017 at 02:57 PM
No, but there are many articles that have had tidbits. This one shows he was possibly planning on another concerrt a week before that had 50,000 people attending. Since he was targetting musical concerts, unless one of his women ran away with a musician, why would he be targetting concerts? If he was with the Islamic State that would be a reason, because they forbid music.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/10/las-vegas-shooter-plan-attack-1710050 84545277.html

 

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