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  posted on 8/8/2017 at 04:59 PM
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So you're pissed cause "weenies" like Plunkett are gonna ruin a game you like to watch?
I guess we're all idiots because no one knew about the dangers of the game in the 80's.

Jim Plunkett was and continues to be a class act.
Wearly89 not so much.

But at least you look good!



Damn straight.

The lack of empathy or compassion sounds downright trumpian.


Ron, you are someone I respect and like and I do look pretty good but as I said in my second post, I do sympathize with Plunkett's current state of health. However, he is responsible for his decision to engage in one of the most dangerous professions in the world and I do not admire his wanting the NFL to bear financial responsibility for his health now. Unless you are obtuse or dimwitted, it has always been known to all how dangerous the professional game is and the level of competition has always been savage. Again, the danger has always been there and the participants have always entered the fray willingly and they received satisfacory competition for so doing. Now if that sounds Trumpian or or is an overload of common sense, I do apologize. You open minded people do not seem to welcome certain points of view.


You may be entitled to your opinion, but not your facts. You say, after some insults,"it has always been known to all how dangerous the professional game is....". Simply not true!!!!!! Very few if any people brought up the problems that could occur after a career in football.
I believe the N.F.L. made 12 billion last year alone. The average salary in 1980 was $78,657, for qb's $160,000. Hardly the money being made today. No one is asking for YOU to pay. I don't think anyone is asking for your pity. You just sound like a bitter old man. Take care of the people who helped build your game!! The owners can afford this! Make the N.F.L. great again!!!

 

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  posted on 8/8/2017 at 08:40 PM
As an ex college football player, had I known that there was a high risk of permanent brain damage, it sure would have made me look differently on my decision to play the sport. Granted it is a high impact sport that could result in a serious injury on every play. However, getting your bell rung was chalked up to a good hit; not a precursor to a life altering condition. Given the fact that the NFL went to great lengths to hide and lie about the facts; I fully understand the frustration and anger displayed by former players. Armed with the FACTS, players may have made different career decisions. Case in point is the amount of players retiring at a very young age over the past 2 years.

Last and certainly not least, who goes on to a music website and brags about how good they still look . I harken back to a well repeated piece of advice from the days of old on this website; Don"t feed the trolls! "


 

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  posted on 8/8/2017 at 09:47 PM
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Last and certainly not least, who goes on to a music website and brags about how good they still look


Only a certain twisted individual who has posted in this thread and also claims to be a big Jim Plunkett fan.

 

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  posted on 8/8/2017 at 10:13 PM
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Last and certainly not least, who goes on to a music website and brags about how good they still look


Only a certain twisted individual who has posted in this thread and also claims to be a big Jim Plunkett fan.


Is there a prohibition on jocularity around here? You take yourself too seriously, dear slob. The fact is, I don't look that great - not much better than Robert Redford at my age.

Anyway, the underlying point of all of this is that the NFL probably can't continue to operate on a profitable basis if it has to payoff every player who has ever had a concussion. Could we possibly agree that is a huge liability and if the head injury nazis are successful they will do class action lawsuits for every type of common injury and broke ex players will start coming up out of the woodwork with every kind of feigned post career trauma imaginable. That's where we're headed. I am a football fan so I don't want that great American tradition to end.

That's all I've got to say about this and I apologize to all offended. From the very beginning, the responses to me were personally insulting and I sludged down to slob's level and responded in kind. To make ammends, I offer to buy slob a new bra.

[Edited on 8/9/2017 by wearly89]

 

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  posted on 8/8/2017 at 10:17 PM
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I offer to buy slob a new bra


Now I'm ALL excited you gorgeous 61 year old hunk

 

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  posted on 8/9/2017 at 07:31 AM
Plunkett doesn't seem to be bitching, just saying what state he is in. As any longtime football fan knows, now we do know a lot more. Back in the day, the info wasn't out there. Whether the NFL and/or owners knew of the dangers, I have no clue.

One of my very best friends is older than me and his dad played eight years for the Chicago Cardinals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Jennings

My friend swears that football caused his early death. Jack was going through all sorts of mental issues toward the end. I asked my friend if his dad knew what we now know, would it have changed his decision to play the game. My friend didn't bat an eye. "Hell no, it wouldn't have mattered. He still would have played".

I guess we all make our own decisions. When I was a kid, just about to enter junior high school, I was all ready to play organized tackle football. Then I had a screwdriver thrown through my knee in a freak accident. After a week in the hospital I was getting ready to head to my first training camp. My doctor told me if I got hit by a helmet in the knee, I might never walk again. Never played football again.

Not the same as head trauma, but I think the similarity is apt. Stuck to baseball & basketball for 10 years. Even at a young age, the thought of never walking again scared the s*it out of me.

Having said all of that, I have no problem with guys playing, not playing and nowadays, retiring early. They made their money. Leave with your faculties. No problem with that.

 

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  posted on 8/9/2017 at 07:47 AM
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Anyway, the underlying point of all of this is that the NFL probably can't continue to operate on a profitable basis if it has to payoff every player who has ever had a concussion. Could we possibly agree that is a huge liability and if the head injury nazis are successful they will do class action lawsuits for every type of common injury and broke ex players will start coming up out of the woodwork with every kind of feigned post career trauma imaginable. That's where we're headed. I am a football fan so I don't want that great American tradition to end.



If you read the article, you know that Plunkett hasn't been one to complain. But only now, after decades of increasing physical health issues that were likely caused by years of getting knocked around, his wife encouraged him to fill out paperwork in order to take part of the settlement that was decided 2 years ago. This isn't a new case.

If you're a football fan, you can't begrudge some of these guys that made the league in the 1960s and 70s getting some money from a business that gets free stadiums from tax payers. I grew up in WI, no bigger NFL state that there, but a lot of people knew about local hero Mike Webster long before all of this CTE stuff broke. You can love the league and still support some of these old timers, and as I mentioned before, Plunkett is still an advocate for the sport.

 

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  posted on 8/9/2017 at 08:26 AM
Mike Webster is a terribly sad story. I think he was supposedly he living under a bridge toward the end. Living in Chicago, unfortunately I see that too often.

Who knows if Junior Seau & Dave Duerson's suicides were because of football. Could have been something else I guess. Not a neurologist. Robin Williams killed himself. Wasn't a football player.

Playing Devil's advocate I suppose.



 

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  posted on 8/9/2017 at 08:53 AM
Wearly is on my Manual Ignore list. Anyone who can't discuss without grade school insults is not worth my time. Have a great life angry man!

 

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  posted on 8/10/2017 at 10:43 PM
"it has always been known to all how dangerous the professional game is"

This is absolutely false. In fact......

"the NFL went to great lengths to hide and lie about the facts"

Do you think they settled that huge lawsuit out of the goodness of their heart? Come on, man. The NFL's hands are dirty on this, plain and simple.

I'm a football fan and love the physical nature of the game. I think that by now, every football player should have a clear idea of what they are getting into. Many of them still choose to put their lives on the line for our entertainment, but at least they are much better compensated nowadays. They are also much better taken care of medically and don't get told to "suck it up" when they get a concussion.

Today, Luke Keuchly gets a concussion and is held out for half the year. Back in Plunkett's day they wouldn't have even taken him out of the game.

 
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  posted on 8/11/2017 at 07:18 AM
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I offer to buy slob a new bra


Now I'm ALL excited you gorgeous 61 year old hunk


Well that was an unexpected turn.

Personally I think the NFL should put more money into taking care of retired players from the pre-concussion knowledge era, if that makes sense.

The NFL hid or downplayed studies on long term effects for years.

 

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