Don't click or your IP will be banned


Hittin' The Web with the Allman Brothers Band Forum
You are not logged in

< Last Thread   Next Thread >Ascending sortDescending sorting  
Author: Subject: Susan - Born of the Beauty of the Blues

Peach Master





Posts: 954
(954 all sites)
Registered: 6/5/2011
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/27/2017 at 08:18 PM
Wonderful in depth look at the deep bluesy soul and musical voice of Susan Tedeschi

http://missoulian.com/entertainment/music/born-of-the-beauty-of-the-blues-a -life-of/article_abfc7e6f-d7f2-5d80-b8c7-78fa63ae2e7c.html

 
Replies:

World Class Peach



Karma:
Posts: 5463
(5462 all sites)
Registered: 3/28/2008
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/28/2017 at 12:55 PM
thanks
good read

 

____________________

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 632
(632 all sites)
Registered: 2/3/2008
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/28/2017 at 06:24 PM
Thanks for posting. Probably the best article on her history that I've read. For some reason, people can't take them for the awesome force that they are. I don't understand the dislike and dismissiveness of this wonderful band.

They are my favorite band by far. I'm so glad that they joined forces to form the best live band on the planet. Don't think Derek has any designs on getting his solo band back together anytime soon. That band, while great in it's own right, didn't have the ability to branch our and reach the heights that the Tedeschi Trucks has reached. I'm sure some detractors will quote a sentence in this paragraph, but it doesn't matter to me cause this is the most genuine outfit out there.

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 21484
(21544 all sites)
Registered: 2/9/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/28/2017 at 07:22 PM
quote:
For some reason, people can't take them for the awesome force that they are. I don't understand the dislike and dismissiveness of this wonderful band.


"For some reason"......

I like Gravy and I and like breakfast cereal, but I don't eat them at the same time. I liked the Susan Tedeschi Band, saw them a number of times and found them very entertaining. The band had musicians that complimented her voice, song selections and musical ability. She was the star and rightly so. In Tedeschi Trucks, she is the weakest musician/soloist, by far. To her credit, there are very few players who can keep up with Derek, on any level. Therein lies the reason for my "dislike" of this band...and yes, I've seen them numerous times, I base my opinion on that. I believe she holds them back ......

 

____________________
Funny, the very same people yelling, "Wear a mask"! for the safety of others are the very same people from whom we hear nary a whimper about the riots.

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 632
(632 all sites)
Registered: 2/3/2008
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/28/2017 at 10:30 PM
quote:
quote:
For some reason, people can't take them for the awesome force that they are. I don't understand the dislike and dismissiveness of this wonderful band.


"For some reason"......

I like Gravy and I and like breakfast cereal, but I don't eat them at the same time. I liked the Susan Tedeschi Band, saw them a number of times and found them very entertaining. The band had musicians that complimented her voice, song selections and musical ability. She was the star and rightly so. In Tedeschi Trucks, she is the weakest musician/soloist, by far. To her credit, there are very few players who can keep up with Derek, on any level. Therein lies the reason for my "dislike" of this band...and yes, I've seen them numerous times, I base my opinion on that. I believe she holds them back ......


Shocking that BIGV is the 1st person to negatively comment on Susan, he'll never like her or anything she does. The positive vibes from this band are part of the reason they are so wonderful. You're negativity is really not contributing to the spirit of the music.

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 21484
(21544 all sites)
Registered: 2/9/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/28/2017 at 11:42 PM
quote:
quote:
quote:
For some reason, people can't take them for the awesome force that they are. I don't understand the dislike and dismissiveness of this wonderful band.


"For some reason"......

I like Gravy and I and like breakfast cereal, but I don't eat them at the same time. I liked the Susan Tedeschi Band, saw them a number of times and found them very entertaining. The band had musicians that complimented her voice, song selections and musical ability. She was the star and rightly so. In Tedeschi Trucks, she is the weakest musician/soloist, by far. To her credit, there are very few players who can keep up with Derek, on any level. Therein lies the reason for my "dislike" of this band...and yes, I've seen them numerous times, I base my opinion on that. I believe she holds them back ......


Shocking that BIGV is the 1st person to negatively comment on Susan, he'll never like her or anything she does. The positive vibes from this band are part of the reason they are so wonderful. You're negativity is really not contributing to the spirit of the music.


Read my post again, I believe it clearly states that I liked the Susan Tedeschi Band......Sorry my opinion differs from yours......And btw, it's "Your negativity" not you're.....

 

____________________
Funny, the very same people yelling, "Wear a mask"! for the safety of others are the very same people from whom we hear nary a whimper about the riots.

 

World Class Peach



Karma:
Posts: 5912
(5947 all sites)
Registered: 1/5/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/29/2017 at 12:05 AM
TTB are my favorite band around by far, and their live shows are powerful indeed. I'd take them over DTB for sure.

Susan is a huge vocal force and i think her singing has only gotten better. Her voice is her instrument, and it is huge. Her voice is as big as Derek's guitar, and i usually don't like female singers that much.


She offers the perfect spice on guitar, some old school blues playing, and it's a very small percentage of the show.

To me, the guitar playing is like the Stones live 1972-1973; Mick Taylor was a monster lead guitar player who did 80% of the soloing, delivering fluid virtuoso displays. Keith Richards would only play a few solos, but it was a cool change. He would dirty it up with his raw visceral Chuck Berry licks. They each gave you something completely different.

TTB is the same - mostly Derek guitar with a little raw Susan blues guit to change it up.

I actually prefer it to the Derek / Warren virtuoso marathons. While I loved the ABB live, this has more dynamics, IMHO.

 

Universal Peach



Karma:
Posts: 6872
(6882 all sites)
Registered: 5/18/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/29/2017 at 03:48 AM
I'm in the "TTB is (one of my) favorite bands" camp as well. Was a big fan of the STB as well as the DTB (duh!)
but forming the TTB was a brilliant move. At first i was kinda dissappointed that Todd and Yonrico weren't involved but on the other hand understood the mutual desire to create a new band together and not just make Susan join the DTB. And soon after the end of the DTB both Todd and Yonrico found a fantastic new band which they joined and stayed with to this very day (JJ Grey & Mofro and Royal Southern Brotherhood respectively) so good for them!

Both on this website and among a couple of friends who have the same musical taste as i do i often hear this rerecurring opinion (and...yes of course everybody has a right to have his own opinion!) that Susan is the weakest part of the chain that forms the TTB. As to quote BIGV "she is the weakest musician/soloist, by far." Susan has an excellent voice and is a damn fine guitarist. No, not as good as Derek but what the heck...who is better then Derek anyway. Trying to compare her guitar skills with some other band members skills on the drums, bass, flute, whatever.....well how do you actually compare or rank that? Susan plays gutsy and emotional blues solos just the way you have to play the blues in the first place. With guts and emotions. From the heart and not from the head.

Another look and the "downplaying" of Susan's role in the TTB: most of us are Derek Trucks fans. Guitar fans.
A big chunk of the crowd going to concerts want to hear a full band blow them away with blues, soul, funk etc.
and often the first reaction / opinion i get from those people is not adressing Derek's guitar skills or the interplay among the drummers etc. but "Wow, that singer is awesome", "her voice carries this band" etc. In other words:
i truelly think she has as many fans as Derek has.

 

____________________

 

World Class Peach



Karma:
Posts: 5463
(5462 all sites)
Registered: 3/28/2008
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/29/2017 at 10:28 AM
^^
I think you're right. She has a great voice and a lot of people go to the shows to hear her voice and the entire band (and Derek, of course). You can't ignore the punch that the horns add. And then there's Kofi...

to me, her guitar playing is more of a throwback to Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker etc. I read an interview where Jaimoe also said something like she is more of a traditional player. He said it better than I can

Derek is by far the best guitar player on the planet right now, but Susan is a talented player in her own right.

 

____________________

 

Peach Pro



Karma:
Posts: 358
(358 all sites)
Registered: 3/5/2009
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/29/2017 at 12:27 PM
I love the TTB as well, I just wish Derek didn't do that 100% of the time. I wish he had a side project he went out with even for a few dates a year - a couple weeks run in the west and the south in the spring and a couple weeks in the north and the east and Canada in the fall. Something instrumental and jazzy with a group of killer players - like Jimmy Herring has been doing with the Jimmy Herring Band and now The Invisible Whip the last few years. Jimmy Herring can even be in it - that's cool with me. Just give me a chance to see Derek really stretch each year and I'm happy.

 

____________________
"We shouldn't count songs off in this band, we should have a starting pistol." - Allen Woody

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 954
(954 all sites)
Registered: 6/5/2011
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/29/2017 at 01:54 PM
I have seen Susan and Derek stand face to face and go toe to toe with tasty call and response guitar licks.
It was like watching a family debate, literally 2 very different voices having a say.


She is an exciting player, and she has something to say. She belongs in the band.

If she were male most of the criticism would disappear IMO.

Derek is pretty done with being the forever soloist. You read his interviews, DTB was put away for a reason. He didn't find it challenging or exciting anymore. Try archive.org for reliving the past.




 

World Class Peach



Karma:
Posts: 5912
(5947 all sites)
Registered: 1/5/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/29/2017 at 02:39 PM
Some good ideas here.

Susan is indeed a refreshing throwback. Too many modern blues players serve up SRV licks or guitar tutor hot licks. Susan is in the vein of Robbie Robertson or Jimmy Vaughn - skipping over the cliches of the past 40 years. You can go see Bonnamissa or KWS if you want something more typical.

I agree that Derek seems very very done with being The Maestro. He did it for years. He's done. He's not going to re-tread that ground. He's made that clear. However, every time I've seen TTB, he has certainly put on a fireworks display, just in a different context.

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2264
(2265 all sites)
Registered: 3/23/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/29/2017 at 03:46 PM
The only thing holding TTB back for my tastes is the number of songs they play live.

Sure it would be great if they played new material and expanded their repertoire more with each tour, but I'd also settle for/be happy if they played more songs they already know. I love Let Me Get By but they have been playing mostly the same show for 2 years now. They have a lot of great material from their other albums and covers played on previous tours that rarely if ever see the light of day, Break em out! That's what grows an audience and keeps em coming back!

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 632
(632 all sites)
Registered: 2/3/2008
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/29/2017 at 09:54 PM
Glad there are some like minded folk on this site. To hear them carry on this music as well as create their own is something special. It' really like the feeling we had in the 70's with all the wonderful music being created simultaneously. I'm just glad that I'm around to appreciate it.

More importantly, they are really a part of a wonderful music scene that exists today. Just look at the lineup for the Peachfest as and example.

 

Universal Peach



Karma:
Posts: 6872
(6882 all sites)
Registered: 5/18/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/30/2017 at 01:27 AM
quote:
The only thing holding TTB back for my tastes is the number of songs they play live.

Sure it would be great if they played new material and expanded their repertoire more with each tour, but I'd also settle for/be happy if they played more songs they already know. I love Let Me Get By but they have been playing mostly the same show for 2 years now. They have a lot of great material from their other albums and covers played on previous tours that rarely if ever see the light of day, Break em out! That's what grows an audience and keeps em coming back!


I beg to differ. Go to setlists.com or other websites that have setlists. Indeed in the first few years the TTB setlists were the large part identical during tours. Especially if you compare them with bands like Gov't Mule. But in the last 2 yeas or so the numbers of songs (and the length of their concerts) has vastly expanded. There's a whole lot of diversity in their setlists nowadays and certainly not "mostly the same show for 2 years now."

 

____________________

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2264
(2265 all sites)
Registered: 3/23/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/30/2017 at 08:15 AM
I agree you will find more songs in the set list now than the early years, but there ought to be as TTB has been around for 7 years now. I still stand by my claim that it's been mostly the same show for two years now though in that Let Me Get By and Mad Dogs & Englishmen songs have made up most of the set lists since fall 2015. They have and have already played enough songs in the last 7 years that they could play a lot of other songs and play them much more frequently. Everybody's Talking is the title track of their second album and I don't think they've played it in 3 years for example. Nice to see Part Of Me and Ball and Chain back in the rotation but there again, it's been years and these tunes as well as Drift Away, Learn How To Love You or All that I Need to pick a few, will only pop up for maybe 2-6 shows a year. It wouldn't surprise me if the size of the band limits the amount of songs they can play and that's ok but TTB is far and away my favorite band out there now (or any time) and that's why I'd like to hear them play more material.

[Edited on 7/30/2017 by axeman]

[Edited on 7/30/2017 by axeman]

[Edited on 7/30/2017 by axeman]

 

Maximum Peach



Karma:
Posts: 8460
(8460 all sites)
Registered: 10/12/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/30/2017 at 01:36 PM
I haven't read the article yet but I will.

Let me add though that if anyone wants to explore Susan further I would highly suggest Hope and Desire (2005). What a beautiful, beautiful record of covers. Definitely a gospel feel through the entire record. <A severely overlooked gem IMO>

 

____________________
Don't let the sounds of your own wheels
Drive you crazy
Lighten up while you still can
Don't even try to understand
Just find a place to take your stand
And TAKE IT EASY

 

World Class Peach



Karma:
Posts: 5463
(5462 all sites)
Registered: 3/28/2008
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/30/2017 at 02:58 PM
^^
That's a great album !
Sweeter than ever still gets played occasionally


As far as set lists go, I think if you went 2 consecutive nights you would probably get 2/3 - 3/4 repeats
They still play a few from madevup mind and even though I love MIH and Bound for glory they stopped playing them all the time, which I think is good

I prefer the 2 set shows- not only because there is more music but they go deeper into the catalogue.
I

 

____________________

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 632
(632 all sites)
Registered: 2/3/2008
Status: Offline

  posted on 7/31/2017 at 07:49 PM
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
For some reason, people can't take them for the awesome force that they are. I don't understand the dislike and dismissiveness of this wonderful band.


"For some reason"......

I like Gravy and I and like breakfast cereal, but I don't eat them at the same time. I liked the Susan Tedeschi Band, saw them a number of times and found them very entertaining. The band had musicians that complimented her voice, song selections and musical ability. She was the star and rightly so. In Tedeschi Trucks, she is the weakest musician/soloist, by far. To her credit, there are very few players who can keep up with Derek, on any level. Therein lies the reason for my "dislike" of this band...and yes, I've seen them numerous times, I base my opinion on that. I believe she holds them back ......


Shocking that BIGV is the 1st person to negatively comment on Susan, he'll never like her or anything she does. The positive vibes from this band are part of the reason they are so wonderful. You're negativity is really not contributing to the spirit of the music.


Read my post again, I believe it clearly states that I liked the Susan Tedeschi Band......Sorry my opinion differs from yours......And btw, it's "Your negativity" not you're.....


Sorry professor for my grammatical error. The point is that your missing it.

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 566
(566 all sites)
Registered: 7/6/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 8/1/2017 at 01:48 PM
I love reading articles about musicians I admire bc they often speak of influences on their career, and that usually leads to me discovering a new artist. So glad Susan mentioned Big Mama Thornton! Holy cow, she is incredible! What a voice, and what a life! Its all I've listened to since I read the above article! Thanks Susan!!!!!

Here's a bit:
"Sometimes I Have a Heartache" w/ Muddy Waters Blues Band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGpiqBSIERM

"Ball and Chain" with Buddy Guy's Blues Band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJlBo5KJ3b4

 
 


Powered by XForum 1.81.1 by Trollix Software

Privacy | Terms of Service | Report Infringement | Personal Data Management | Contact Us
The ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND name, The ALLMAN BROTHERS name, likenesses, logos, mushroom design and peach truck are all registered trademarks of THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. whose rights are specifically reserved. Any artwork, visual, or audio representations used on this web site CONTAINING ANY REGISTERED TRADEMARKS are under license from The ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. A REVOCABLE, GRATIS LICENSE IS GRANTED TO ALL REGISTERED PEACH CORP MEMBERS FOR The DOWNLOADING OF ONE COPY FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY. ANY DISTRIBUTION OR REPRODUCTION OF THE TRADEMARKS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE PROHIBITED AND ARE SPECIFICALLY RESERVED BY THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO.,INC.
site by Hittin' the Web Group with www.experiencewasabi3d.com