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  posted on 7/19/2017 at 09:16 AM
Little IAA / FCS info...atleast shows who some think are going to be good and a preview of some potential FCS wins over FBS teams.

FCS Champion Odds -
North Dakota State +175
James Madison +250
Sam Houston State +700
South Dakota State +1000
Jacksonville State +1400
Richmond +1700
Villanova +2000
Wofford +2000
Eastern Washington +2000
North Dakota +3850
Youngstown State +4000
Northern Iowa +4500
Central Arkansas +4500
Charleston Southern +5000
Chattanooga +5000
The Citadel +5000
New Hampshire +5500
Samford +5500
Illinois State +5500
Western Illinois +6600
Lehigh +7500
South Dakota +8000


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FCS vs. FBS: 5 Winnable Games and 5 Possible Upsets in 2017

Sam Herder
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Last Updated - Jul 18, 2017 06:17

The 2017 college football season features 98 FCS vs. FBS games. It's always fun to see the two Division I subdivisions square off, especially when the FCS teams come out on top.

RELATED: Predicting Every 2017 Conference Champion in the FCS
MORE: Top 2018 FCS NFL Draft Prospects by Position

With 22 less scholarships, any FCS win should be considered an upset. But it's become clear that the top 10-15 FCS teams are superior to the bottom half of the FBS. Last season, 10 FCS teams notched wins over FBS opponents, highlighted by North Dakota State's 23-21 win at No. 11 Iowa.

The 2013 season saw a record 16 FCS vs. FBS wins. NDSU took down the defending Big 12 champions Kansas State, Eastern Washington defeated No. 25 Oregon State and Georgia Southern, who was transitioning to the FBS and ineligible for the FCS playoffs, went to Florida and won 26-20 in the regular season finale.

The FCS has a chance to reach double-digit wins again this season against the "big boys." Here are the five most winnable games and the five biggest possible upsets.


Five most winnable games

Eastern Washington @ Texas Tech (Sept. 2) The Eagles have defeated FBS opponents two times since 2013 while coming within a touchdown in others. They'll have big holes to fill at receiver, but Gage Gubrud can shred any defense with his arm. Texas Tech went 5-7 last season and lose quarterback Patrick Mahomes II, who was drafted No. 10 overall, and top receiver Jonathan Giles, who transferred to LSU. The Red Raiders allowed 43.5 points per game and 315.8 passing yards per game in 2016.

Youngstown State @ Pittsburgh (Sept. 2) Bo Pelini probably licks his chops when it comes to playing FBS opponents. His Penguins narrowly lost 45-37 to Pittsburgh in his first season as head coach in 2015. Now with players to fit his system, Pelini has skyrocketed the YSU program and made the FCS title game last season. Pittsburgh loses its starting quarterback, top running back and three of its top five tacklers after an 8-5 season.

Northern Iowa @ Iowa State (Sept. 2) Can someone politely poke their head into the Iowa State athletic department offices and ask why they continue to schedule Missouri Valley Football Conference opponents? Actually, for the sake of the FCS, don't. The Cyclones have lost to MVFC opponents three times since 2013. Two of those came against UNI. They play the 2016 Valley co-champs South Dakota State in 2018, UNI again in 2019 and South Dakota in 2020. The Panthers look to get back to the playoffs this season while Iowa State is coming off back-to-back 3-9 seasons.

South Dakota @ Bowling Green (Sept. 9) Bowling Green narrowly escaped with a 27-26 win against North Dakota last year in a 4-8 season. The Falcons lose 1,000-yard running back Fred Coppet, but should have an improved passing game. They gave up 38.3 points per game in 2016 and will be without Trenton Greene, who had 111 tackles. USD is looking to take that next step as an FCS program and pull out the close games. With Chris Streveler leading the way at quarterback, the Coyotes can make a statement Sept.9.

James Madison @ East Carolina (Sept. 2) This is a rare game where the FCS team is favored. And the spread of 4.5 points is actually being generous to ECU, who went 3-9 last season. JMU is the defending FCS national champs and don't appear to be taking any steps back. This is an extremely winnable game for the Dukes. And oh by the way, ECU is paying them $300,000 to do it.

Five possible upsets

Northern Arizona @ Arizona (Sept. 2) If you don't know the name Case Cookus, you better get familiar. The 2015 FCS Freshman of the Year played just four games last season before a shoulder injury sidelined him. As a freshman, Cookus threw for 3,117 yards with 37 touchdowns and five interceptions. He'll have the top three receivers from last season return. Arizona went 3-9 in 2016. The Wildcats gave up 38.3 points per game and 275.2 passing yards per game.

Cal Poly @ San Jose State (Sept. 2) Cal Poly was on the wrong end of the biggest upset in last year's playoffs. The Mustangs lost to San Diego, a non-scholarship school they defeated 38-16 earlier in the season. With fullback Joe Protheroe (1,334 yards, 13 touchdowns) returning and a favorable conference schedule, Cal Poly is eyeing bigger things in 2017. San Jose State was 4-8 last season, allowing 244.6 rushing yards per game.

Villanova @ Temple (Sept. 9) In his second game as head coach, Mark Ferrante can show the Villanova program remains in good hands. Ferrante takes over after coaching under Andy Talley for more than 30 years. The Wildcats should own one of the top defenses in the FCS this season with four of their top five tacklers returning. Temple won its final six games to go 10-4 in 2016. The Owls lose their No. 1 running back and quarterback and top two tacklers.

Jacksonville State @ Georgia Tech (Sept. 9) Jacksonville State is a team littered with FBS talent. Mostly because a lot of its players were once on FBS teams. But taking the transfer route has led to three undefeated conference seasons and a national runner-up finish in 2015. The Gamecocks took Auburn to overtime in 2015 before losing 27-20. Last year, they lost 34-13 to LSU. Georgia Tech went 9-4 last season, but should be on upset alert against JSU, who has shown it can match up well with FBS teams.

Wofford @ South Carolina (Nov. 18) Wofford can make the FCS playoffs real interesting with a huge upset in the final week of the regular season. The Terriers could very well have 0-1 losses heading into their game against South Carolina, who went 6-7 last season. The Gamecocks defeated Western Carolina, who is in the same conference as Wofford, 44-31. The Terriers defeated WCU 31-19. Take that how you wish, but Wofford returns a team that could be in the national title picture if it takes care of business in the Southern Conference. An upset here could greatly influence how the bracket is seeded.

http://herosports.com/fcs-football/fcs-vs-fbs-upsets-2017-bzbz


 

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  posted on 7/19/2017 at 09:19 AM
37 days til kickoff!

SEC, Big XII, AAC, ACC and CUSA media days are over. The rest are next week. Fall camp is just weeks away with a few schools starting earlier this year.

 

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  posted on 7/19/2017 at 09:29 AM
FBS / IA Championship Odds -

Alabama +260
USC +780
Ohio State +800
Florida State +950
Oklahoma +1700
Auburn +2000
Penn State +2200
Michigan +2500
LSU +2600
Clemson +3300
Florida +4000
Washington +4000
Wisconsin +4000
Texas +4500
Georgia +4500
Louisville +5000
Oklahoma State +5000
Notre Dame +8000
Tennessee +8000
UCLA +8000
Virginia Tech +8500
Miami Florida +8500
Kansas State +10000
TCU +10000
Oregon +10000

 

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  posted on 7/19/2017 at 05:52 PM
Hi nebish. Thanks for the thread. Teams start practicing in a few weeks. College football will always be a good vibe.

Regarding my Bruins, believe it when you see it. Unless UCLA can improve its running game, it will be another long season. Lots of good players all around but unfortunately, no depth at OL. No OL = football hell.

Lots of empty seats at the RB last season. For certain locations, the school decided to add a donation fee per seat to support the John Wooden Fund. I get it but unfortunately, that's a hard sell when the stadium doesn't sell out.

All that being said, I'm looking forward to tailgating, seeing friends, and enjoying all things college football. To good times! GO BRUINS!

 

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  posted on 7/19/2017 at 05:58 PM
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Man, after all those incredible opening weekend matchups last year, was hoping that was the start of a trend. This year is a throwback to the powerhouses blowing out cupcakes tradition of the 70s and 80s.


+1 Bama vs FSU, Michigan vs The Gators are worth watching but other than that, BFD.

Friday night's game CU vs CSU should be fun. Big rivalry and both schools go at it. Grads from each schools hate each other. That's football!

 

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  posted on 7/19/2017 at 07:50 PM
I'm devoting Saturday and Sunday to football study!

Strat, what are your thoughts on Rosen? I know he hasn't always had the supporting cast, and I know he has had some injury issues, but I just haven't seen the extraordinary ability in an elite talent level college QB. He's good, I've seen him play very good. But I've seen probably 30 college QBs play as good any given year. Do you still think he is the 'Rosen One or Chosen Rosen, whatever they say?

 

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  posted on 7/20/2017 at 10:12 PM
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I'm devoting Saturday and Sunday to football study!

Strat, what are your thoughts on Rosen? I know he hasn't always had the supporting cast, and I know he has had some injury issues, but I just haven't seen the extraordinary ability in an elite talent level college QB. He's good, I've seen him play very good. But I've seen probably 30 college QBs play as good any given year. Do you still think he is the 'Rosen One or Chosen Rosen, whatever they say?


Rosen is a good QB. He's best in uptempo and can run the ball too. Last season, he had a crappy OL, terrible running game, and receivers that dropped passes plus he was in an offense not suited to his style. It was hard to move the chains and unfortunately, he got a season ending shoulder injury. That said, he has the skills and the smarts to play in the NFL.

He's had a good off-season. Josh has grown up some (keeping his mouth shut), healed from his injuries, and put on some size. He's got some play makers around him but they have to execute. If it's all on him, Bruins are 7-5 at best. If he gets hurt again, Bruins will be lucky to get to .500.

 

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  posted on 7/21/2017 at 07:26 AM
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Man, after all those incredible opening weekend matchups last year, was hoping that was the start of a trend. This year is a throwback to the powerhouses blowing out cupcakes tradition of the 70s and 80s.


+1 Bama vs FSU, Michigan vs The Gators are worth watching but other than that, BFD.

Friday night's game CU vs CSU should be fun. Big rivalry and both schools go at it. Grads from each schools hate each other. That's football!


I hate to wish summer away but the start of football season (especially college) is always fun.

Looking forward to Meeechigan playing a meaningful early game. I hate when I have to watch them play Bowlng Green, Eastern Michigan, et al.

 

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  posted on 7/21/2017 at 08:26 PM
Bruins

v aTm (Sun)
v Hawaii
at Memphis
at Tree
v Buffs
BYE
at Zona
v Ducks
at UW
at Utah (Fri)
v Sparky
at SuCks
vs Kal

Love seeing the Bruins go to Mephis, which that game, just saying that is not a auto W. What is best case Sept? 4-1? Not sure which one they lose, Stanford ofcourse because they always lose to Stanford right? Last year was some **** . The opener is plenty interesting. Not sure how the division shapes up yet but here is one thing we can agree on...Beat SC!


 

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  posted on 7/21/2017 at 08:31 PM
It isn't out of the realm of possibility that Michigan makes it into November 9-0. 4-0 open is possible and MSU and IU will be challenging but they should win both, and I'm not drinking PSU kool aid, think they step back this year ,that game is on the road, probably at night, still. So 7-0, 6-1 at that point losing to somebody along the way perhaps. They beat Rut and Min, then I really like Maryland this year, that game will be much different than last year and Blue travels to them, travels to Bucky and Madison is always a bitch to play at, then gets OSU at home to close. The last 3 games will make or break the season I think.
 

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  posted on 7/21/2017 at 08:38 PM
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/college/ole-miss/2017/07/20/hugh- freeze-resigns-ole-miss-football-coach/498101001/

In the midst of NCAA investigation, Hugh Freeze resigns after it is discovered he placed a call from his school issued cell phone to an escort service and supposedly a "disturbing pattern" was seen on examination of the cell phone records although that specific number was only called once. Those chics must not have suited him.

Just another flawed man hiding behind religion.

Lot of talent still on hand in Oxford, self imposed bowl ban this year pending NCAA sanctions. But they are a train wreck. Season starts nice and easy, then at Bama, then at Auburn, then Vandy, then LSU, then Hogs ,then at UK...what are they 5-4 best case through 9 games? 4-5 more likely.

 

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  posted on 7/28/2017 at 06:19 AM
At Big Ten Media Days, Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh wears sideline attire...




Hawaii coach Nick Rolovich hires Elvis impersonator to accompany him at Mountain West media days in Las Vegas


 

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  posted on 8/5/2017 at 07:04 AM
I don't know if Yahoo will have the games for the 26th, but college football games officially start in 3 weeks!! 4 weeks until the normal week 1 schedule.

Back for the 9th year, our yahoo college football pick'em league. The game selection will be 'yahoo default' and 'top 25'. Just as year's past everyone's lowest single week will be dropped. So if you get a zero for missing a week, or just really get crushed one week, no big deal as long it just happens once.

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/college/register/joingroup

Join a private group and enter:

Group ID#: 1556
Password: clemson



Past winners:
2016 - nebish / kirbyskids (Dannyspell) (yahoo tie break goes to nebish)
2015 - Village Dawg (hoffcl)
2014 - nebish
2013 - DanB
2012 - alloak41
2011 - Wharfrat
2010 - non ABB member (leafsfan friend)
2009 - Bird

 

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  posted on 8/5/2017 at 08:28 AM
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I don't know if Yahoo will have the games for the 26th, but college football games officially start in 3 weeks!! 4 weeks until the normal week 1 schedule.

Back for the 9th year, our yahoo college football pick'em league. The game selection will be 'yahoo default' and 'top 25'. Just as year's past everyone's lowest single week will be dropped. So if you get a zero for missing a week, or just really get crushed one week, no big deal as long it just happens once.

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/college/register/joingroup

Join a private group and enter:

Group ID#: 1556
Password: clemson



Past winners:
2016 - nebish / kirbyskids (Dannyspell) (yahoo tie break goes to nebish)
2015 - Village Dawg (hoffcl)
2014 - nebish
2013 - DanB
2012 - alloak41
2011 - Wharfrat
2010 - non ABB member (leafsfan friend)
2009 - Bird


looking forward to it

also need an NFL fantasy league

 

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  posted on 8/16/2017 at 07:17 AM
Real live football in 10 days!

Those "week 0" games are not part of the yahoo pick'em league, for that week 1 starts the week of the 28th. But it is right around the corner!!

 

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  posted on 8/21/2017 at 11:34 AM
AP poll released

1. Alabama
2. Ohio State
3. Florida State
4. USC
5. Clemson
6. Penn State
7. Oklahoma
8. Washington
9. Wisconsin
10. Oklahoma St
11. Michigan
12. Auburn
13. LSU
14. Stanford
15. Georgia
16. Louisville
17. Florida
18. Miami
19. USF
20. Kansas State
21. Virginia Tech
22. West Virginia
23. Texas
24. Washington State
25. Tennessee

 

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  posted on 8/21/2017 at 11:40 AM
I predict Penn State will not finish in the top 10 at year's end

Looking back at overrated preseason top 10 teams:

The most overrated showing preseason rank and final regular season record (not including bowl win/loss).

1998 Arizona St #8 - 5-6

1999 Arizona #4 - 6-6

2000 Alabama #3 - 3-8

2001 Florida State #7 - 7-4

2002 Florida State #3 - 9-4 (also Tenn #5 - 8-4, Fl #6 - 8-4)

2003 Auburn #6 - 7-5

2004 Ohio St #9 - 7-4

2005 Tennessee #3 - 5-6 (also Michigan #4 - 7-4, Oklahoma #7 7-4)

2006 Notre Dame #2 - 10-2
* they're the most logical of all 06 teams in my mind as they faced 2 teams in the top 15 and lost both badly, when you factor in the Sugar Bowl vs #4 LSU it shows the unjustified #2 ranking in August.

2007 Michigan #5 - 8-4 (also #9 Louisville 6-6)

2008 Auburn #10 - 5-7 (lots of others in 2008: Georgia #1 9-3 3rd overall SEC, Missouri #6 9-4 5th overall Big 12, LSU#7 7-5 losing record in SEC, West Virginia #8 8-4 3rd Big East, Clemson #9 7-5 .500 ACC record)

2009 Ole Miss #8 - 8-4 (lost first game in week 3 and was handled by #20 Bama 22-3 two weeks later) (Oklahoma was preseason #3 and finished 7-5, but they also had starting QB lost for season in week 1)

2010 Texas #4 - 5-7(also Florida #3 7-5 and Iowa #10 7-5)

2011 Oklahoma #1 - 9-3 (lost to unranked T Tech, barely ranked Baylor and #3 OSU), also: Florida State #5 - 8-4 (lost 3 games in a row to OU, Clem, Wake and later to Virginia *starting QB injured during 3 game losing streak), Texas A&M #9 - 6-6 (what a mess they were).

2012 #1 USC 7-6 lost Sun Bowl to GT. #8 Michigan 8-5 lost Outback bowl to SC. #10 Arkansas 4-8

2013 #10 Florida 4-8. #5 Georgia garnered 1 first place vote finished 8-5 with an Outback bowl loss. #7 Texas A&M 8-4 before beating Duke in the Chick-fill-A bowl.

2014 #4 Oklahoma 8-4 before 6-40 bowl loss. #6 Auburn 8-4 before Outback bowl loss. #9 SC pulled over .500 with a Independence bowl win.

2015 #2 TCU 10-2 prior to Alamo Bowl win, not a bowl becoming to a preseason #2. #6 Auburn 6-6, pulled over .500 by beating Memphis in Birmingham bowl. #7 Oregon with loss to TCU in Alamo bowl. #8 USC 8-6 with a loss to Wisconsin in Holiday Bowl. #9 Georgia was 5-3 in October.

2016 #9 Notre Dame 4-8 disaster. #7 Stanford was 4-3 at one point, but did finish 10-3. #10 Tennessee 8-4 reg ssn (4-4 SEC). #6 LSU was 2-2 after Sept and 7-4 reg ssn



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[Edited on 8/21/2017 by nebish]

 

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  posted on 8/24/2017 at 06:54 AM
Got into my college pick 'rm pool the other day. Can't believe it's almost that time.

If anyone wants to get in, I can do it. Just a $30 buy in. There's a weekly winner and an end of year one as well.

First weekend is going to be interesting!

 

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  posted on 8/24/2017 at 10:01 AM
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Got into my college pick 'rm pool the other day. Can't believe it's almost that time.

If anyone wants to get in, I can do it. Just a $30 buy in. There's a weekly winner and an end of year one as well.

First weekend is going to be interesting!


Details? Are everyone's picks done on a website? I might be interested in playing.

We have 7 friendly faces in our yahoo ABB pick'em league, some other frequent players yet to sign up.

 

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  posted on 8/24/2017 at 10:19 AM
It's getting close. I feel a a lot better about my Dawg's this year..

 

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  posted on 8/25/2017 at 02:03 PM
I'm in for the win!!!! GO DUCKS!!! WTD!!!

 

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  posted on 8/25/2017 at 06:58 PM
This is the last Friday night without college football until the second week of December!

College football every Saturday tomorrow - January!!

 

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  posted on 8/25/2017 at 08:43 PM
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It's getting close. I feel a a lot better about my Dawg's this year..


I just noticed what I suspect is an oddity that is probably old news for UGA fans. No defensive player last year was All SEC? Looking at that roster there is a TON of experience in most of that two-deep. Would figure for some improvement out of the D, secondary remaining slight concern I suppose?

Looking to see how Eason improves, which in year two is quite likely so long as the OL and WR units also improve to support his growth.

I like the opener vs App St. App St is really good so should be good test. They nearly beat the Vols as we know, but Miami crushed them with an abundance of big plays last year.

 

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Got into my college pick 'rm pool the other day. Can't believe it's almost that time.

If anyone wants to get in, I can do it. Just a $30 buy in. There's a weekly winner and an end of year one as well.

First weekend is going to be interesting!


Details? Are everyone's picks done on a website? I might be interested in playing.

We have 7 friendly faces in our yahoo ABB pick'em league, some other frequent players yet to sign up.



I may even jump back in this year, haven't yet decided.

 

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  posted on 8/26/2017 at 09:47 AM
Neb, what's the over/under Vegas line on Husker wins this year?

I can see anywhere from 6-6 to 8-4. Depending how the season unfolds, they may not win a game the last month.

 

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