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  posted on 5/13/2017 at 10:43 PM
Saw McCartney and his band a couple years ago and they cranked out Mr Kite....WOW!!! And he came out with his ukelele talking about George and started strumming out Something and after the first verse his splendid band kicked in as Paul picked up his famous Hofner bass and it sounded just like Abbey Road... Beatlemania lives as long as Paul McCartney is on this earth as I was like a little girl in Shea Stadium with tears streaming down my face. That was the greatest concert I have ever seen by a million times and I had the worst seats imaginable. If I get another chance to see him I'll pay whatever he wants me to pay for the best seats I can get. And, yes, I agree with most of the other fplks who think Sgt Peppers is the greatest rock masterpiece of them all. Abbey Road is a superior recording but Sgt Peppers is four (really 5 with George Martin) geniuses at the zenith of musical creativity. There ain't another Sgt Peppers and there won't ever be.
 

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  posted on 5/14/2017 at 09:03 AM
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But the perception that Sgt. Pepper has "filler" is actually one that makes me sad. Sad that people may not have been there then. That parts of that album don't make sense in a today world. Sad that I was there and went on Bleecker Street as a kid sneaking over the river and felt 1967 and heard Beatles on sidewalks. Oh well. Filler. Right, mate.



There only is context when there is context. Imagining context is like reading a Civil War novel.




Why be sad over things you have no control over. I'm not sad I wasn't alive in 1967. I am enjoying being in the prime of my life right now.

Music wise we are in an era of really good stuff that will hold up. Is it as mainstream as Sgt, Peppers, no it is not but it still is good if you want to poke around.

Just these past two mornings I've listened to
Steven Wilson- Hand Can Not Erase (4.75/5), That Raven That Refused to Sing (4.25/5)
Muse- Black Holes & Revelations (4.5/5)
Queens of The Stone Age- Like Clockwork (4.5/5)
My Morning Jacket- The Waterfall (4.5/5)

 

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  posted on 5/14/2017 at 11:42 AM
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But the perception that Sgt. Pepper has "filler" is actually one that makes me sad. Sad that people may not have been there then. That parts of that album don't make sense in a today world. Sad that I was there and went on Bleecker Street as a kid sneaking over the river and felt 1967 and heard Beatles on sidewalks. Oh well. Filler. Right, mate.



There only is context when there is context. Imagining context is like reading a Civil War novel.




Why be sad over things you have no control over. I'm not sad I wasn't alive in 1967. I am enjoying being in the prime of my life right now.

Music wise we are in an era of really good stuff that will hold up. Is it as mainstream as Sgt, Peppers, no it is not but it still is good if you want to poke around.

Just these past two mornings I've listened to
Steven Wilson- Hand Can Not Erase (4.75/5), That Raven That Refused to Sing (4.25/5)
Muse- Black Holes & Revelations (4.5/5)
Queens of The Stone Age- Like Clockwork (4.5/5)
My Morning Jacket- The Waterfall (4.5/5)


Sad was a figure of speech that you maybe missed as such. I certainly don't let others perceptions of anything affect my mind. Have no idea of any of your music choices but am happy (again figure of speech) they bring you pleasure. IMO music-wise, we are in an era of poor music, with exceptions to that norm.

 

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  posted on 5/14/2017 at 12:04 PM
Brerabbit got it right.
Surealistic Pillow was THE album of 1967.
Also, in the spring of 68 a club/disco opened here (Jax)
The house band was from W Fla. they had a female singer, the longest
hair in town and could play almost any Airplane song.
The band was named the Second Coming.
During the summer of 68 they made a demo 45 featuring
an Airplane and a Cream song.
The local radio stations played it hard giving the band the
ability to leave the club and book their own gigs.
Back then the people who wanted to see the band couldn't
get in club and couldn't drink. It was hippies and sailors.
During the fall the band played every hall and community center
in NE Fla. The Second Coming would open every gig as the
crowd pleaser and would evolve into a jam session when others
players and friends showed up.
By spring of 69 these gigs had grown huge with players wanting to Jam
with the Second Coming.
A new band evolved featuring the best players the band eventually
named itself The Allman Brothers Band.
Carrying on about 1967....Peace

 

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  posted on 5/16/2017 at 07:40 PM
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...out of curiosity, how old were you in 1967? not that that is a barometer of opinion validity

It is a barometer of knowing the social and political and world environment that the album came out in. And the perspective of ears that first heard it. Not that music is judged on context either.

Sgt Peppers could be a so-so album. I think it is a masterpiece. Is it a listening choice to bop to for me? No. It is a mood selection once a year or so and it sets me down in time to great music, by my standards and perceptions. When I play it I stop everything else. But I wouldn't say my take on it is "the analysis of fact and truth" Or start a thread lobbying for that. Just me though, and net forums are great for being, well, forums.






Actually, I think the age question is very relevant. Unless one is a student of the culture and the music of the times, judging a 50 year old album by today's standards totally removes the context during which it was issued, and that context is very important.

By today's standards, Robert Johnson's 78rpm recordings from the 1930's may not stand out that much from other 1930's recordings, but consider the impact they have had on the music we appreciate today.


These comments sum up this thread pretty good. Why nit pick over great music when you really don't have the perspective of the time period. Sgt. Peppers and Pet Sounds were ground breaking. Music like that will most likely never be made again.


I like to nitpick over great music because it gives me something to think about besides politics. Also this is a music forum so why not.


Nit picking over some of the greatest music ever created seems a little trite and more than a little attention grabbing. If you had perspective or were alive during this period, this is sort of a mute point. Certainly it can be argued that there were better recordings that year, historically speaking, it's hard to argue it's significance.

Would rather hear an argument over which current jam band is better, since that can be actively disputed.

 

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  posted on 5/26/2017 at 01:54 PM
Happy 50th Anniversary. Not a single boy-girl love song and all done on a couple of 4 track machines. Amazing and magical.

 

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