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  posted on 4/25/2017 at 11:44 AM
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/afghanistan-trip-u-s-general-suggests-r ussia-arming-taliban/
 
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  posted on 4/25/2017 at 04:05 PM
I sincerely doubt that Russia is arming any Taliban. Firstly, no Taliban would trust Russia or accept weapons from them. With the ferocity they fought against the Russians, including accounts of the heroics and fighting of Mullah Omar, risking his own life, but God taking out 3 Russian tanks that were coming towards them, I am certain they would never trust the Russians. Only a mujahid with complete faith and 3 RPG's could believe he could take out 3 tanks, but God was greater than the Russians and gave Omar and his group victory that day. The Russians retreated.

[the account occurred in his autobiography, written by his fighters shortly after his natural death].



[Edited on 4/25/2017 by gina]

 

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  posted on 4/25/2017 at 04:16 PM
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[the account occurred in his autobiography, written by his fighters shortly after his natural death].




Sounds like a verifiable, trusted source of facts.

Kind of like the bible.




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  posted on 4/25/2017 at 05:13 PM
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I sincerely doubt that Russia is arming any Taliban. Firstly, no Taliban would trust Russia or accept weapons from them. With the ferocity they fought against the Russians, including accounts of the heroics and fighting of Mullah Omar, risking his own life, but God taking out 3 Russian tanks that were coming towards them, I am certain they would never trust the Russians. Only a mujahid with complete faith and 3 RPG's could believe he could take out 3 tanks, but God was greater than the Russians and gave Omar and his group victory that day. The Russians retreated.

[the account occurred in his autobiography, written by his fighters shortly after his natural death].



[Edited on 4/25/2017 by gina]


Since the Taliban has no manufacturing capabilities, they will buy guns from whomever will sell guns to them

 

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  posted on 4/26/2017 at 12:39 PM
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I sincerely doubt that Russia is arming any Taliban. Firstly, no Taliban would trust Russia or accept weapons from them. With the ferocity they fought against the Russians, including accounts of the heroics and fighting of Mullah Omar, risking his own life, but God taking out 3 Russian tanks that were coming towards them, I am certain they would never trust the Russians. Only a mujahid with complete faith and 3 RPG's could believe he could take out 3 tanks, but God was greater than the Russians and gave Omar and his group victory that day. The Russians retreated.

[the account occurred in his autobiography, written by his fighters shortly after his natural death].



[Edited on 4/25/2017 by gina]
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  posted on 4/26/2017 at 04:02 PM
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I sincerely doubt that Russia is arming any Taliban. Firstly, no Taliban would trust Russia or accept weapons from them. With the ferocity they fought against the Russians, including accounts of the heroics and fighting of Mullah Omar, risking his own life, but God taking out 3 Russian tanks that were coming towards them, I am certain they would never trust the Russians. Only a mujahid with complete faith and 3 RPG's could believe he could take out 3 tanks, but God was greater than the Russians and gave Omar and his group victory that day. The Russians retreated.

[the account occurred in his autobiography, written by his fighters shortly after his natural death].



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Since the Taliban has no manufacturing capabilities, they will buy guns from whomever will sell guns to them


Wait, are you suggesting that they are not picky and will buy guns from bad guys?

 

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I sincerely doubt that Russia is arming any Taliban. Firstly, no Taliban would trust Russia or accept weapons from them. With the ferocity they fought against the Russians, including accounts of the heroics and fighting of Mullah Omar, risking his own life, but God taking out 3 Russian tanks that were coming towards them, I am certain they would never trust the Russians. Only a mujahid with complete faith and 3 RPG's could believe he could take out 3 tanks, but God was greater than the Russians and gave Omar and his group victory that day. The Russians retreated.

[the account occurred in his autobiography, written by his fighters shortly after his natural death].



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Since the Taliban has no manufacturing capabilities, they will buy guns from whomever will sell guns to them


Wait, are you suggesting that they are not picky and will buy guns from bad guys?



They believe in helping aany and all weapons manufacturers. Allah is pleased.

 

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  posted on 4/26/2017 at 07:21 PM
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I sincerely doubt that Russia is arming any Taliban. Firstly, no Taliban would trust Russia or accept weapons from them. With the ferocity they fought against the Russians, including accounts of the heroics and fighting of Mullah Omar, risking his own life, but God taking out 3 Russian tanks that were coming towards them, I am certain they would never trust the Russians. Only a mujahid with complete faith and 3 RPG's could believe he could take out 3 tanks, but God was greater than the Russians and gave Omar and his group victory that day. The Russians retreated.

[the account occurred in his autobiography, written by his fighters shortly after his natural death].

Since the Taliban has no manufacturing capabilities, they will buy guns from whomever will sell guns to them


They stashed what was provided to them from the US in the 1980's. Guns are also manufactured in Pakistan. In addition to that, when they assumed power in the 1990's they disarmed the population, so they have their guns too.

[Edited on 4/27/2017 by gina]

 

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I sincerely doubt that Russia is arming any Taliban. Firstly, no Taliban would trust Russia or accept weapons from them. With the ferocity they fought against the Russians, including accounts of the heroics and fighting of Mullah Omar, risking his own life, but God taking out 3 Russian tanks that were coming towards them, I am certain they would never trust the Russians. Only a mujahid with complete faith and 3 RPG's could believe he could take out 3 tanks, but God was greater than the Russians and gave Omar and his group victory that day. The Russians retreated.

[the account occurred in his autobiography, written by his fighters shortly after his natural death].



[Edited on 4/25/2017 by gina]
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Nutella or toll house pancakes for the mujahideen would be better! (with some cinnamon and honey!)

[Edited on 4/27/2017 by gina]

 

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  posted on 4/26/2017 at 08:31 PM
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I sincerely doubt that Russia is arming any Taliban. Firstly, no Taliban would trust Russia or accept weapons from them. With the ferocity they fought against the Russians, including accounts of the heroics and fighting of Mullah Omar, risking his own life, but God taking out 3 Russian tanks that were coming towards them, I am certain they would never trust the Russians. Only a mujahid with complete faith and 3 RPG's could believe he could take out 3 tanks, but God was greater than the Russians and gave Omar and his group victory that day. The Russians retreated.

[the account occurred in his autobiography, written by his fighters shortly after his natural death].



[Edited on 4/25/2017 by gina]


that would be a "biography" and not an autobiography.

much like the Bible.

 

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  posted on 4/27/2017 at 06:52 PM
Yes Piacere, biography. He never had time to write his own but those who lived and fought with him did it.

 

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Given about 1/3 of the American trained and EQUIPPED (including short and long guns) Afghan army deserts every year, the United States tax payers have been arming the Taliban for 15 years as many of those weapons eventually fall into the hands of the Taliban.

The experiment has failed and the Departments of Defense and State have known it for years. Despite this fact, we continue the charade of "nation building" and "training" of the Afghan nation and its security forces thinking we can avert what history shows is always an eventual disaster for every invading and occupying nation who ventures into Afghanistan.

Our arrogance is truly amazing....And it costs us dearly and will for decades to come. Trillions of dollars and thousands of lives wasted.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2017 at 04:52 PM
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Yes Piacere, biography. He never had time to write his own but those who lived and fought with him did it.


They were obviously unbiased especially about parts like God taking out the tanks. God gave Mullah Bullah a fly swatter and with it, he defeated millions and eliminated the flies all at the same time.

Would it not have been easier if God just wiped out the Russians completely? Funny how Gods get all caught up in the "do not kill" stuff and yet will aid Mullah Bullah and his band of Cave Sodomizers to kill. Mully Bully should have kept going and with God's help Moscow would have been theirs.

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Yes Piacere, biography. He never had time to write his own but those who lived and fought with him did it.


They were obviously unbiased especially about parts like God taking out the tanks. God gave Mullah Bullah a fly swatter and with it, he defeated millions and eliminated the flies all at the same time.

Would it not have been easier if God just wiped out the Russians completely? Funny how Gods get all caught up in the "do not kill" stuff and yet will aid Mullah Bullah and his band of Cave Sodomizers to kill. Mully Bully should have kept going and with God's help Moscow would have been theirs.

I let God drive my car daily. So far I have gotten back and forth with no issues - I AM THE CHOSEN ONE.


Ha, ha....

 

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  posted on 4/30/2017 at 07:18 PM
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Yes Piacere, biography. He never had time to write his own but those who lived and fought with him did it.


They were obviously unbiased especially about parts like God taking out the tanks. God gave Mullah Bullah a fly swatter and with it, he defeated millions and eliminated the flies all at the same time.

Would it not have been easier if God just wiped out the Russians completely? Funny how Gods get all caught up in the "do not kill" stuff and yet will aid Mullah Bullah and his band of Cave Sodomizers to kill. Mully Bully should have kept going and with God's help Moscow would have been theirs.

I let God drive my car daily. So far I have gotten back and forth with no issues - I AM THE CHOSEN ONE.


he didn't say "do not kill". He said "do not murder".

other than that...have at it...

though I'd fix that sig.

 

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  posted on 5/1/2017 at 09:18 AM
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Yes Piacere, biography. He never had time to write his own but those who lived and fought with him did it.


They were obviously unbiased especially about parts like God taking out the tanks. God gave Mullah Bullah a fly swatter and with it, he defeated millions and eliminated the flies all at the same time.

Would it not have been easier if God just wiped out the Russians completely? Funny how Gods get all caught up in the "do not kill" stuff and yet will aid Mullah Bullah and his band of Cave Sodomizers to kill. Mully Bully should have kept going and with God's help Moscow would have been theirs.

I let God drive my car daily. So far I have gotten back and forth with no issues - I AM THE CHOSEN ONE.


he didn't say "do not kill". He said "do not murder".

other than that...have at it...

though I'd fix that sig.


Well every Bible that I have seen and just now looking online. It says " Thou shalt not kill". Doesn't matter as it is semantics anyway. Besides God didn't say a thing nor did he put the words on tablets. Man did. Just as man made up all the other religious words, notions and ideals. All religions are a fabrication of man created for a variety of reasons. If it makes you feel good and you don't hurt, effect or push others to share your beliefs. More power to you. Unfortunately religion doesn't work that way.

If you believe it God. He also didn't blow up tanks or guide rockets. He doesn't have a 'chosen" people. He definitely doesn't support murderers or terrorists and set them on their path.

He didn't help decide which breakfast cereal that you ate. Didn't guide your car. And if God is talking to you then you need an adjustment of meds or have mental health issues. If you constantly go on a 'band's" forum and try to push a bunch of religious bullsh*t and predictions of disasters then you are skipping your meds and likely to far gone for mental help. Common sense failed long ago.


 

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  posted on 5/1/2017 at 10:06 AM
like I said, have at it...
 

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  posted on 5/2/2017 at 04:29 PM
Go does not want people killing each other. Over and over again, he tells people to resolve their differences with others. He says do not covet, so anyone wanting to take and conquer another country, should not do that. They should be satisfied with the land they were placed in to live in. If they don't like it, they should seek to move to another land/country. It is not easy, but it can be done.

God smites all the groups who wage war, at different times. He martyrs some, he allows others to live. This confounds and confuses many.

He allows fighting in self defense, if someone shoots at you, you are allowed to shoot back to protect yourself, your family, your country and yes your religion if you live in one of those religious nations/states.

The only permissible jihad is defensive. There is no pre-emptive, we'll take them out first, before they get us doctrine. Osama would point out, well America has been killing our people for many years, so why can't we retaliate and avenge the blood of our brothers, wives, children? Omar would only fight those who came to Afghan lands to shoot and kill them. He would not run across the border to go fight anyplace else. That was his understanding of permissible jihad. Osama would mention what happened in Lebanon as a basis for any attacks that happened to Americans anywhere. In terms of permissibility, if he was in Lebanon (and he was) during the attacks in the 1980's, then he was allowed to fight back because the land he was in was under attack, by forces who were killing on the basis of their religion, because they were Muslims. The massacres at Sabre and Shatilla refugee camps are examples. Those were war crimes for which Israel was never held accountable. We go all around the world killing people in other countries, that is not allowed even for Christians or Jews. You may only fight in the land you are in, if someone comes there to attack you there. And yes I am aware that Muslims attacked the Marine base. I don't think that was permissible jihad, but he points out that they are foreign troops on Lebanese soil. If the Lebanese government agreed to, wanted them there, asked them to come, then that decision should have been accepted, because even the Quran says that God allows the leaders who are in power to have that power, and that the people have to accept that. This is one reason the Taliban did not kill Karzai or try to, and why they do not try to kill the newer President, Ghani. When they took Rabbani out of power, the corruption was so bad, it was effecting so many people in anti-Islamic ways, their being in power was a threat to their religion, and that was the basis on which they fought. If Ghani ever decides that Afghanistan will become a secular state, and abandon Islam, then they could seek to remove him on that basis, because an attack on their religion is a reason for permissible jihad.

This NATO concept that we have to be the world's policemen and enforcers is wrong.
We don't like the leader of a country, so we go, shoot and bomb people and then put someone else in charge. Totally wrong. Those lands belong to the native people's of those lands. The people should be armed and have state/national sovereignty and intact borders, and a decent standing army.

Real simple. Would not be world wars, or multi nation conflicts if people adhered to this. It would be just one nation going and effing with another one, if one big nation conquered a bunch of little ones and became very powerful, eventually they would come up against one of the other big ones, like China, India, or the US, but why must there be wars on an ongoing basis, all the time? It's wrong.





[Edited on 5/2/2017 by gina]

 

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