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  posted on 11/29/2016 at 10:05 PM
Check the news about Ohio State student using a car and a knife to attack people.
He was put down by a campus police officer.

Guess what several prominent democrats chimed in about. They decried the deplorable "gun violence" on the Ohio State Campus.

REALLY!!!!!

 

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  posted on 11/29/2016 at 11:27 PM
Why are the Democrats not tearfully and passionately calling for stricter knife regulations/background checks, closing the knife show loopholes, etc.??
 

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  posted on 11/30/2016 at 04:06 AM
So who were the ones complaining? Where you get the info Fox news or **** trump?

 

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  posted on 11/30/2016 at 07:26 AM
This situation demonstrates that keeping guns out of the hands of the wrong people saves lives. Lives would have been lost had this guy managed to get a gun. This reinforces the attempt by some to restrict access to guns for people who are suspected terrorists.
 

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  posted on 11/30/2016 at 09:36 AM
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Check the news about Ohio State student using a car and a knife to attack people.
He was put down by a campus police officer.

Guess what several prominent democrats chimed in about. They decried the deplorable "gun violence" on the Ohio State Campus.

REALLY!!!!!


I have a very good friend who goes to OSU, and you can read the chain of events from most news sources. None of what you say is accurate.

Initially the campus put out an alert that there was a shooter on campus, so the campus went into lock down mode. Either there was mixed information or campus security was being overly cautious in order to avoid a VA Tech situation where 32 people were gunned down and killed.

Hours later, it was revealed that the only shots fired were by an officer, who took out a lone man with a car and a knife.

No one wants to take everyone's guns away, this is a myth. But it was a very good thing this kid did not have a gun - he sent 7 people to the hospital from his car and a knife, but they are all expected to quickly recover. It was very good a trained police officer had a gun and not some wannabe-Vigilante.

 

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  posted on 11/30/2016 at 11:12 AM
See how far we've come in the Whipping Post, nary a mention of the bad guy's religion - I'm sorry alleged religion.

And no mention of his intent, I'm sorry - alleged intent.

 

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  posted on 11/30/2016 at 02:25 PM
Those who initiate the hostility towards an entire group of people, are the exact root of our problem. Only a fool does not realize that.
 

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  posted on 11/30/2016 at 02:50 PM
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This situation demonstrates that keeping guns out of the hands of the wrong people saves lives. Lives would have been lost had this guy managed to get a gun. This reinforces the attempt by some to restrict access to guns for people who are suspected terrorists.

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If you say this Islamic Extremist Terrorist was a "suspected terrorists" why did Obama let him into the U.S. to freely roam around on the taxpayer's dime?

 

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  posted on 11/30/2016 at 03:10 PM
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If you say this Islamic Extremist Terrorist was a "suspected terrorists" why did Obama let him into the U.S. to freely roam around on the taxpayer's dime?



How did you make this up? Records state that his family of 8 emigrated from Somalia via Pakistan a few years ago. Catholic Charities in Dallas provided financial assistance before their move to Ohio. There is no history or ties to any terrorist groups, they were never suspected of any affiliations. Everything indicates he acted alone. I wouldn't call an 18-year old kid with a knife a "sleeper terrorist plot".

My OSU friend told me he saw a lot of anti-Muslim and anti-Semitic Trump-inspired White Power hate speech on campus immediately after the election. Fear just generates more fear.

 

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  posted on 11/30/2016 at 05:03 PM
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Fear just generates more fear.


Yeah, whenever I am afraid because of the fear generated by others, I usually respond by attacking innocent people with a knife.

 

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  posted on 11/30/2016 at 05:15 PM
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Yeah, whenever I am afraid because of the fear generated by others, I usually respond by attacking innocent people with a knife.


Don't we all? I think the poor little fella's actions are totally justified.

 

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Fear just generates more fear.


Yeah, whenever I am afraid because of the fear generated by others, I usually respond by attacking innocent people with a knife.


Don't we all? I think the poor little fella's actions are totally justified.


Me as well, totally justified. I mean after Catholic Charities in Dallas provided financial assistance, life had to have been worse than it was in Somalia.

 

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  posted on 11/30/2016 at 05:43 PM
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Yeah, whenever I am afraid because of the fear generated by others, I usually respond by attacking innocent people with a knife.


Well, no one is confusing him with you. The kid deserved to get shot by a cop, he attacked people.

 

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  posted on 11/30/2016 at 07:53 PM
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Those who initiate the hostility towards an entire group of people, are the exact root of our problem. Only a fool does not realize that.


Therefore, had we displayed a more hospitable attitude, an incident like 9-11 could have been prevented?


 

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  posted on 11/30/2016 at 09:02 PM
If students at OSU were allowed to carry, then there could have just been one dead terrorist and NO students going to the hospital.
 

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  posted on 11/30/2016 at 09:05 PM
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Those who initiate the hostility towards an entire group of people, are the exact root of our problem. Only a fool does not realize that.

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That would be Al Qaeda, ISIS and their kind.

 

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  posted on 12/1/2016 at 10:41 AM
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If students at OSU were allowed to carry, then there could have just been one dead terrorist and NO students going to the hospital.


Oh Lord, that is a frightening prospect. As a former college instructor and (long ago) student, the prospect of tens of thousands of 19 year-olds carrying guns around campus and into classrooms is horrifying.

Thank God the only person with a gun was the cop, a trained professional peace officer, and the assailant didn't have one. No fatalities among the victims and the assailant is dead, quickly dispatched. You'd rather have a bunch of kids in a shoot out on the quad, stray bullets flying into classrooms?

 

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  posted on 12/1/2016 at 02:27 PM
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If students at OSU were allowed to carry, then there could have just been one dead terrorist and NO students going to the hospital.


Yeah, great idea. Let's arm a bunch of unsupervised drunk teenagers with guns. I don't see a problem there at all.

 

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  posted on 12/1/2016 at 02:31 PM
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Therefore, had we displayed a more hospitable attitude, an incident like 9-11 could have been prevented?


This is such a bizzarre post, I don't even know where to begin. How in the hell do you do deduce this from what I posted?

 

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  posted on 12/1/2016 at 06:14 PM
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Oh Lord, that is a frightening prospect. As a former college instructor and (long ago) student, the prospect of tens of thousands of 19 year-olds carrying guns around campus and into classrooms is horrifying.

Thank God the only person with a gun was the cop, a trained professional peace officer, and the assailant didn't have one. No fatalities among the victims and the assailant is dead, quickly dispatched. You'd rather have a bunch of kids in a shoot out on the quad, stray bullets flying into classrooms?


Frightening and horrifying to who? Itís not horrifying to me, or millions of other gun owners in this country. Iím glad to see some colleges are starting to allow students and faculty to carry on campus, and I hope this is a growing trend. So what you are saying is that tens of thousands of 19 year-olds should be denied their right to self-defense because the prospect of them legally carrying a gun scares you? Oh, brother. Iím sure you donít mind if that same 19 year old carries a gun into combat in a foreign land to protect you, but God forbid he carry one back home to protect himself.

What if the assailant had a gun and the nearest cop was 10 minutes away? So youíd rather have a massacre on the quad than a kid(s) with a carry permit defending himself and others. I prefer the headline that reads ďstudent with handgun stops attackĒ as opposed to ď17 students massacred awaiting cops to arriveĒ. But thatís just me. If there had been just one armed student, then there may have been NO injured students. To me that is a better outcome than 7 injured students. None injured is better than 7 injured. Simple math/logic.

There is no need to live in fear of guns. If you live in a state that allows concealed carry, then you are already among people everyday who carry guns and you do not even know it. The guy in line behind you at the grocery storeÖthe soccer mom dropping her kids off at practiceÖnormal/nice folks going about their daily routines just like you. The wild west shootouts and vigilante fantasies only exist in the minds of the anti-gunners who want people to be afraid of guns.

 

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  posted on 12/1/2016 at 06:17 PM
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If students at OSU were allowed to carry, then there could have just been one dead terrorist and NO students going to the hospital.


Yeah, great idea. Let's arm a bunch of unsupervised drunk teenagers with guns. I don't see a problem there at all.


SorryÖI didnít realize that all the victims of the attack were drunkÖI must have missed that piece of very relevant information in the news report. And in most (if not all) states that allow concealed carry, even if a person has a permit to carry, he/she cannot carry while intoxicated. Kinda like owning/driving a car. Just because I have a license to drive my car, that doesnít mean I can legally drive it when Iím intoxicated. And just because I have a permit to carry a concealed weapon, that doesnít mean I can carry it when Iím drinking. So is it safe to assume that you donít have a problem with a non-intoxicated teenage victim who is being violently attacked/raped on a college campus defending himself/herself with a gun that is legally owned and for which he/she has a permit to carry?

 

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Frightening and horrifying to who? Itís not horrifying to me, or millions of other gun owners in this country. Iím glad to see some colleges are starting to allow students and faculty to carry on campus, and I hope this is a growing trend. So what you are saying is that tens of thousands of 19 year-olds should be denied their right to self-defense because the prospect of them legally carrying a gun scares you? Oh, brother. Iím sure you donít mind if that same 19 year old carries a gun into combat in a foreign land to protect you, but God forbid he carry one back home to protect himself.


I said to who - to ME, as an instructor. Owning a gun is a right. Carrying it around in public is not a right in most places. Citizens have a right to defend themselves within reason - butterfly knives, for instance, are typically illegal.

A campus is not a war or combat zone, it is a school and a workplace, and students are not trained in marksmanship upon acceptance. There is a reason some high schools have metal detectors, or should guns be allowed there as well? Take your gun grocery shopping if it makes you feel better, that's great, but they have no place in classrooms and a campus. You might feel safe with a gun on your hip, but many other people don't know you or if you are crazy and won't feel safe. This assailant didn't or couldn't get a gun, and that is why his victims are alive. A trained police officer justifiably shot him, and that is why there weren't more victims. Case closed.



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  posted on 12/1/2016 at 08:23 PM
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Therefore, had we displayed a more hospitable attitude, an incident like 9-11 could have been prevented?


This is such a bizzarre post, I don't even know where to begin. How in the hell do you do deduce this from what I posted?


Easily. Lets not blame the terrorists, it's the way that Muslims have been mistreated. Right? In other words, we have it coming?

 

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  posted on 12/1/2016 at 08:35 PM
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This situation demonstrates that keeping guns out of the hands of the wrong people saves lives. Lives would have been lost had this guy managed to get a gun. This reinforces the attempt by some to restrict access to guns for people who are suspected terrorists.


What made him a suspected terrorist before this attack? How would restricting access to guns for suspected terrorists have impacted this dead scum bag had he tried to get one?

I mean I do not think that suspected terrorists should have legal access to guns either. I understand both side of the argument however.

I'd just like to know how you think he was a suspected terrorist before Monday? Must've been his religion or ethnicity then huh? Did you just do what I think you did?

 

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Easily. Lets not blame the terrorists, it's the way that Muslims have been mistreated. Right? In other words, we have it coming?


It's interesting that your mind went here. You have quite the imagination. You are insinuating that my position is that the US conveyed anti-Muslim sentiments prior to 9/11, which is therefore the root of the problem, and 9/11 was a justified solution. I was 22 when 9/11 happened, so although I didn't follow current events in college as much as I do now, I don't remember there being any anti-Muslim messages. Therefore I don't believe that's why 9/11 happened. In your 9/11 analogy, it was Bin Laden who held contempt for an entire group of people and vowed to destroy us. He was the root of the problem, and I'm proud of the Obama administration for getting rid of the cancer that he was - giving the green light was risky, and it showed tremendous leadership to give it. Trump wrote a book about how one must never be afraid to take risks in order to be successful. Well, Obama took a big risk and it paid off in dividends. The right will blame him for creating ISIS, but luckily the right also knows Trump will easily defeat them. Now how you link that to Jerry blaming Democrats over gun control is way beyond my comprehension.

 
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