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  posted on 11/16/2016 at 10:21 AM
I admit, I did not know what all the fuss was about with these cities, so I did what any logical person would do, I went to Wikipedia

How one feels about these cities totally depends on how one feels about illegal immigration.

Two thoughts on what is contained below - the comment from Hillary one day, then the "clarification" from her campaign the next - I applaud Hillary for what she said but the retraction, wow.

and the Madison Wisconsin ordinance "forbidding" their police with co-operating with immigration officials....I'm not sure how this went this long without serious uproar.



From that site:

Sanctuary city
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A sanctuary city is a city in the United States or Canada that has adopted a policy of protecting illegal immigrants by not prosecuting them solely for violating federal immigration laws in the country in which they are now living illegally. Such a policy can be set out expressly in a law (de jure) or observed only in practice (de facto). The term applies generally to cities that do not use municipal funds or resources to enforce national immigration laws, and usually forbid police or municipal employees to inquire about a person's immigration status. The designation has no precise legal meaning.[1]

Contents [hide]
1 History
1.1 United States
1.1.1 Electoral politics
1.1.2 Political action
1.1.3 Effects
1.2 Canada
2 See also
3 References

History[edit]
United States[edit]
Local governments in certain cities in the United States began designating themselves as sanctuary cities during the 1980s.[2][3] However, the term “sanctuary city” is often used incorrectly to describe trust acts or community policing policies that limit entanglement between local police and federal immigration authorities.[4] The policy was first initiated in 1979 in Los Angeles, to prevent police from inquiring about the immigration status of arrestees. The internal policy, "Special Order 40", states: "Officers shall not initiate police action with the objective of discovering the alien status of a person. Officers shall not arrest nor book persons for violation of title 8, section 1325 of the United States Immigration code (Illegal Entry)."[5] These cities have adopted "sanctuary" ordinances banning city employees and police officers from asking people about their immigration status.[6][7]

Some of the 31 American cities are:

Arizona
Tucson, Arizona

California
Berkeley, California
Coachella, California
Los Angeles (the first since 1979)
Oakland
Salinas, California
San Francisco
San Jose
Santa Ana

Colorado
Denver

Connecticut
New Haven

District of Columbia
Washington, D.C.

Florida
Miami

Illinois
Chicago

New York
New York City (see also Illegal immigration to New York City)

New Jersey
Newark
Jersey City

Maine
Portland, Maine

Maryland
Baltimore

Massachusetts
Cambridge
Somerville

Michigan
Detroit

Minnesota
Minneapolis

New Mexico
Santa Fe, New Mexico

Oregon
Portland, Oregon

Pennsylvania
Philadelphia

Texas
Dallas
Houston, Texas

Utah
Salt Lake City

Washington State
Seattle



The Common Council of the city of Madison, Wisconsin enacted an ordinance on 5 March 1985 forbidding city employees, ostensibly including city police, to co-operate with immigration officials.[8]

Electoral politics[edit]
This issue entered presidential politics in the race for the Republican Party presidential nomination in 2008. Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo ran on an anti-illegal immigration platform and specifically attacked sanctuary cities. Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney accused former mayor Rudy Giuliani of running New York City as a sanctuary city.[9] Giuliani's campaign responded saying that Romney ran a sanctuary Governor's mansion, and that New York City is not a "haven" for undocumented immigrants.[9]

After the murder of a restaurant waitress in Albuquerque, New Mexico, in late June 2009 that was suspected to be perpetrated by three undocumented immigrants (one of whom was not deported despite being arrested for two prior DUI incidents), then mayoral candidate Richard J. Berry decried the city's sanctuary city policy. He also vowed, if elected, to repeal the policy that has been continued by the incumbent mayor, Martin Chávez.[10]

Following the shooting death of Kathryn Steinle in San Francisco (a sanctuary city) by an undocumented immigrant, Hillary Clinton told CNN on 8 July 2015: "The city made a mistake, not to deport someone that the federal government strongly felt should be deported. I have absolutely no support for a city that ignores the strong evidence that should be acted on."[11] The following day, her campaign stated: "Hillary Clinton believes that sanctuary cities can help further public safety, and she has defended those policies going back years."[12]

Political action[edit]
The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 addressed the relationship between the federal government and local governments. Minor crimes, such as shoplifting, became grounds for possible deportation.[13] Additionally, the legislation outlawed cities' bans against municipal workers' reporting persons' immigration status to federal authorities.[14]

Section 287(g) makes it possible for state and local law enforcement personnel to enter into agreements with the federal government to be trained in immigration enforcement and, subsequent to such training, to enforce immigration law. However, it provides no general power for immigration enforcement by state and local authorities.[15] This provision was implemented by local and state authorities in five states, California, Arizona, Alabama, Florida and North Carolina by the end of 2006.[16] On June 16, 2007 the United States House of Representatives passed an amendment to a United States Department of Homeland Security spending bill that would withhold federal emergency services funds from sanctuary cities. Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) was the sponsor of this amendment. 50 Democrats joined Republicans to support the amendment. The amendment would have to pass the United States Senate to become effective.[17]

In 2007, Republican representatives introduced legislation targeting sanctuary cities. Reps. Brian Bilbray, R-Calif., Ginny Brown-Waite, R-Fla., Thelma Drake, R-Va., Jeff Miller, R-Fla., and Tom Tancredo introduced the bill. The legislation would make undocumented immigrant status a felony, instead of a civil offense. Also, the bill targets sanctuary cities by withholding up to 50 percent of Department of Homeland Security funds from the cities.[18]

On September 5, 2007, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told a House committee that he certainly wouldn't tolerate interference by sanctuary cities that would block his "Basic Pilot Program" that requires employers to validate the legal status of their workers. "We're exploring our legal options. I intend to take as vigorous legal action as the law allows to prevent that from happening, prevent that kind of interference."[19][20] On May 5, 2009, Georgia Governor Sonny Perdue signed a bill into law that prohibited sanctuary city policies in the state of Georgia.[21]

On June 5, 2009, the Tennessee state House passed a bill banning the implementation of sanctuary city policies within the state of Tennessee.[22]

In June 2011, Texas Governor Rick Perry proposed legislation to ban sanctuary cities, SB 9, to the Special Session agenda for the State Legislature.[23] Public hearings on the sanctuary cities legislation were held before the Texas Senate Transportation and Homeland Security Committee on June 13, 2011.[24]

President-elect Donald Trump has promised to cut all federal funding for Sanctuary Cities on his first day in office.[25]

Effects[edit]
According to one study, sanctuary policy itself has no statistically meaningful effect on crime.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2016 at 11:35 AM
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and the Madison Wisconsin ordinance "forbidding" their police with co-operating with immigration officials....I'm not sure how this went this long without serious uproar.


Ha, I grew up in Madison, and its Left-leanings go beyond that of San Fran and NYC in a lot of ways (the Mayoral race is typically between a Democrat and a Leftist Democrat). I'm sure the ordinance is more out of protest than an actual policy in practice, Madison likes to protest (not that a lot of unauthorized immigrants flee north to WI). Anyways, the WI state legislature banned "sanctuary" cities in Feb. And never mind that INS removals and deportations have increased annually since 1990, regardless of the acting President.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2016 at 12:12 PM
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President-elect Donald Trump has promised to cut all federal funding for Sanctuary Cities on his first day in office.
Trump has called for rounding up and deporting criminal illegal aliens, emphasis on criminal. How mayors of these sanctuary cities refuse to see the distinction is pretty hard to rationalize. We'll see how long they continue that stance if their funding gets slashed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvV6FtJmDbY

 

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  posted on 11/16/2016 at 02:16 PM
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President-elect Donald Trump has promised to cut all federal funding for Sanctuary Cities on his first day in office.
Trump has called for rounding up and deporting criminal illegal aliens, emphasis on criminal. How mayors of these sanctuary cities refuse to see the distinction is pretty hard to rationalize. We'll see how long they continue that stance if their funding gets slashed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvV6FtJmDbY

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Those mayors are far more interested in votes than upholding the oath they took.
It would also seem that they think crime is a good population control policy.

Anyone notice that all the Mexican illegal immigrants protesting in The U.S. wave Mexican flags but do not want to live there?




[Edited on 11/16/2016 by Muleman1994]

 

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  posted on 11/16/2016 at 02:45 PM
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President-elect Donald Trump has promised to cut all federal funding for Sanctuary Cities on his first day in office.
Trump has called for rounding up and deporting criminal illegal aliens, emphasis on criminal. How mayors of these sanctuary cities refuse to see the distinction is pretty hard to rationalize. We'll see how long they continue that stance if their funding gets slashed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvV6FtJmDbY


Trump may become reluctant to do that.

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There may be one thin reed — model-thin — on which to rest immigrant hopes: Melania Trump.

In August, when questions were raised about her premarital immigration status, Donald Trump said his wife would hold a news conference to prove she had been in the U.S. legally and complied with the law in the 1990s.

“Let me tell you one thing,” Trump said. “She has got it so documented, so she’s going to have a little news conference over the next couple of weeks.”

The promised news conference, and documents, never materialized.

In November, the Associated Press reported that documents it had obtained, including records of payments, showed Mrs. Trump had worked in the U.S. before she was legally authorized. According to the AP, the Trump campaign did not respond to written questions about her status.

Trump’s hypocrisy is durable stuff; it survived the rigors of a presidential campaign. But if Democrats and immigration groups make an issue of his wife’s immigration record, this particular instance might gain some traction.

With their dire change in fortunes, undocumented immigrants are in desperate need of a new narrative.

As she prepares to move into the White House, Melania’s story may be uncannily on point.


http://www.newsday.com/opinion/oped/melania-trump-may-be-key-to-stopping-do nald-trump-from-deporting-immigrants-1.12625993

 

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  posted on 11/16/2016 at 02:51 PM
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Anyone notice that all the Mexican illegal immigrants protesting in The U.S. wave Mexican flags but do not want to live there?



I've also noticed that about Italian flags in Bensonhurst and Irish flags outside Irish bars in Bay Ridge and Staten Island. Don't mistake pride in ones heritage for foreign nationalism.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2016 at 05:10 PM
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President-elect Donald Trump has promised to cut all federal funding for Sanctuary Cities on his first day in office.
Trump has called for rounding up and deporting criminal illegal aliens, emphasis on criminal. How mayors of these sanctuary cities refuse to see the distinction is pretty hard to rationalize. We'll see how long they continue that stance if their funding gets slashed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvV6FtJmDbY


Trump may become reluctant to do that.

quote:
There may be one thin reed — model-thin — on which to rest immigrant hopes: Melania Trump.

In August, when questions were raised about her premarital immigration status, Donald Trump said his wife would hold a news conference to prove she had been in the U.S. legally and complied with the law in the 1990s.

“Let me tell you one thing,” Trump said. “She has got it so documented, so she’s going to have a little news conference over the next couple of weeks.”

The promised news conference, and documents, never materialized.

In November, the Associated Press reported that documents it had obtained, including records of payments, showed Mrs. Trump had worked in the U.S. before she was legally authorized. According to the AP, the Trump campaign did not respond to written questions about her status.

Trump’s hypocrisy is durable stuff; it survived the rigors of a presidential campaign. But if Democrats and immigration groups make an issue of his wife’s immigration record, this particular instance might gain some traction.

With their dire change in fortunes, undocumented immigrants are in desperate need of a new narrative.

As she prepares to move into the White House, Melania’s story may be uncannily on point.


http://www.newsday.com/opinion/oped/melania-trump-may-be-key-to-stopping-do nald-trump-from-deporting-immigrants-1.12625993
That would certainly provide for some interesting theater Swifty. I guess it will depend on how far the definition of "criminal" goes. Deporting violent crime illegals should be no debate. I'd lump theft or property crime in there too. Beyond that, I guess we'll see.

 

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  posted on 11/16/2016 at 08:18 PM
best taco cities in America?

 

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  posted on 11/17/2016 at 08:39 PM
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President-elect Donald Trump has promised to cut all federal funding for Sanctuary Cities on his first day in office.
Trump has called for rounding up and deporting criminal illegal aliens, emphasis on criminal. How mayors of these sanctuary cities refuse to see the distinction is pretty hard to rationalize. We'll see how long they continue that stance if their funding gets slashed.



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In November, the Associated Press reported that documents it had obtained, including records of payments, showed Mrs. Trump had worked in the U.S. before she was legally authorized. According to the AP, the Trump campaign did not respond to written questions about her status.




Did they give the 5W's about her paychecks?

 

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