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  posted on 6/28/2016 at 10:05 AM
Obama, Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, Ben Rhodes and the entire Obama administration lied to The American People about the Islamic Extremist Terrorist attack on the CIA compound at Benghazi.

Four Americans were murdered and the above named did not care, refused to help them and were more interested in getting re-elected.

Select Committee on Benghazi Releases Proposed Report

81 New Witnesses, 75,000 New Pages of Documents Reveal Significant New Information,
Fundamentally Changes the Public’s Understanding of the 2012 Terrorist Attacks that Killed Four Americans

Forget the spin, read the actual report:

http://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo

 
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  posted on 6/28/2016 at 10:44 AM
so can we expect charges to be filed and this going to trial?

 

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  posted on 6/28/2016 at 11:20 AM
Impeccable timing.

Hope they read the entire finding at the GOP Convention next month & form breakout groups & focus groups to review...yet another document. How much taxpayer money spent on trying to take down HC with the same end game and same results?

From AP:

But the committee's 800-page report, released by Republican members, offered no "smoking gun" about Clinton's role.
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This has been a $7 million investigation. Go Trey go. Outstanding job. A lot of needed infrastructure could have been sured up with the funds spent, but your politically aimed obsession got in the way.



[Edited on 6/28/2016 by MartinD28]

 

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Impeccable timing.

Hope they read the entire finding at the GOP Convention next month & form breakout groups & focus groups to review...yet another document. How much taxpayer money spent on trying to take down HC with the same end game and same results?

From AP:

But the committee's 800-page report, released by Republican members, offered no "smoking gun" about Clinton's role.
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This has been a $7 million investigation. Go Trey go. Outstanding job. A lot of needed infrastructure could have been sured up with the funds spent, but your politically aimed obsession got in the way.
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Millions of tax-payer dollars misspent?

What is the value of an American Ambassador and his security team?

What is the value of a CIA compound and the classified top-secret documents and computers taken by the Islamic Extremist Terrorists?

The American People have a right to be informed about the corruption, foreign policy failures and unwillingness of the Obama administration to stop terrorism.

The House Benghazi panel spent $7 million dollars. It costs the American taxpayers $6.5 million dollars a month for Obama to go play golf.

You didn't mention that the democrats held 637 hearings when they controlled congress trying to find something on the George Bush administration, costing $278 millions tax=payer dollars and they found nothing.

BTW the word you were looking for is shored, not sured.


 

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  posted on 6/28/2016 at 01:24 PM
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so can we expect charges to be filed and this going to trial?

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Won't happen.
Hillary Clinton should be held responsible but that would have to come from a recommendation for prosecution which Lynch would just throw in the trash can.

Obama uses his Justice Department as a political enforcement unit.

Didn't you know Hillary Clinton is above the law?

 

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  posted on 6/28/2016 at 02:02 PM
maybe you are right mule but it seems to me at least one of the 8 investigations would have had to find evidence of wrongdoing for your scenario to kick in.

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sorry mule, I reread what you said and it is the same as what I just said.

"but that would have to come from a recommendation for prosecution "

[Edited on 6/28/2016 by LeglizHemp]

 

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You didn't mention that the democrats held 637 hearings when they controlled congress trying to find something on the George Bush administration, costing $278 millions tax=payer dollars and they found nothing.


The Senate and House were controlled by Republicans for the majority of George W. Bush's 2 terms. When the Iraq War began in 2003 the Senate and House were controlled by Republicans and the House only reverted to Democratic control in 2007/2008.

Although there was a plethora of articles in the press questioning the disbanding of the Iraqi army and National police force, there was no congressional investigation.

The following quote is from a thesis submitted to the United States Marine Corp in 2009. One must wonder what the Middle East would be like today had Bush not invaded Iraq and disbanded the army and police force. This set of decisions has had a devastating and destabilizing effect on the Middle East and without a doubt brought on ISIS and its expansion abroad.

quote:
The U.S. decision to disband the Iraqi military via Paul Bremer and the CPA was the
result of narrow thinking by policy makers unable to discern reality and practicality from
preconceived ideals. None of the policy makers were accustomed to negotiating the
complexities of chaos often encountered in war in order to achieve an end state, and those that
had a better understanding of the situation, and were responsible for executing and dealing with
the consequences of the decision, were not consulted or heeded. The decision was also a product
of colliding priorities. The Secretary of Defense wanted a small occupation force that
commanders knew was imprudent, the military planners adapted by planning to use the Iraqi
Army to make up for coalition short falls, and the CPA wanted to dissolve all things Baathist or
resembling Saddam even if it was the only mechanism allowing the country to function.

The military commanders with the responsibility of executing Phase IV operations were
handed an equation that eliminated any probability of success. The equation of an under strength
coalition, a disbanded and humiliated Iraqi Army, sixty percent unemployment rate,
humanitarian and essential services crisis, 450,000 disenfranchised populace with access to
unsecured weaponry and ammunition, and international terrorists infiltrating the borders was
certain to create a formidable obstacle to success. Security is the foundation for support and
stability and it was unachievable given the context of Iraq in 2003 and into 2004.

A practical common sense plan for security collided with ideals of immediately creating a
more ethnically balanced government and placing those that had been in power for so long on the
sidelines. Bremer chose a punitive approach prescribed by questionable exiles versus a healing
approach due to his preconceived notions about Iraqi society and the symbol of Iraq's army. It
was a decision that was clearly not advised by every major organization that took the time to
analyze the decision. With such a grand decision and significant consequences, it is surprising
the U.S. government allowed this decision to take place. The argument for and against with
historical comparisons demonstrates the information decision makers had available to them.
Unfortunately, the decision to disband the Iraqi military in addition to de-Baathification created
the conditions where much of the populace had little choice but to take violent action. The
malcontent feelings without security extended the war five years beyond prediction and created
insurgent momentum that cost the coalition lives and enormous amounts of tax-payer dollars.



http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a511061.pdf

 

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  posted on 6/28/2016 at 02:20 PM
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maybe you are right mule but it seems to me at least one of the 8 investigations would have had to find evidence of wrongdoing for your scenario to kick in.

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That would make sense if the Obama Administration had not stonewalled and refused to cooperate.
They secreted away witnesses who were on the ground in Libya, forced them to re-sign non-disclosure agreements on threat of prosecution.
Obama refuses to allow one his top liars, Susan Rice to testify.

The emails between Hillary Clinton and Obama regarding Benghazi have been deleted, can’t be found or called “privileged executive communications” depending on which Obama administration liar is speaking.

The first 7committees did not have subpoena power which is why it took an Act of Congress to establish the Benghazi committee that was able to get the facts to The American People.

And Amb. Stevens and three other Americans were murdered as a direct result of a failed Obama/Clinton policy and gross incompetence.

Not surprisingly those thing do not matter and do not cause liberals alarm.



 

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The first 7committees did not have subpoena power which is why it took an Act of Congress to establish the Benghazi committee that was able to get the facts to The American People.


I don't recall the committee subpoena for susan rice to testify. now if that would have happened and Obama blocked that, it would be a story.

 

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The first 7committees did not have subpoena power which is why it took an Act of Congress to establish the Benghazi committee that was able to get the facts to The American People.


I don't recall the committee subpoena for susan rice to testify. now if that would have happened and Obama blocked that, it would be a story.

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the committee did subpoena Susan Rice and Obama refused to allow her to testify citing "executive privilege".

The liberal media did not report it because the they filter out anything that reflect badly on their boy.

 

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  posted on 6/28/2016 at 02:47 PM
Muleman, shouldn't you be more outraged that the Republicans are going to let her get away with it? if she is guilty then whoever allows it shares the same blood on their hands.
 

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The first 7committees did not have subpoena power which is why it took an Act of Congress to establish the Benghazi committee that was able to get the facts to The American People.


I don't recall the committee subpoena for susan rice to testify. now if that would have happened and Obama blocked that, it would be a story.

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the committee did subpoena Susan Rice and Obama refused to allow her to testify citing "executive privilege".

The liberal media did not report it because the they filter out anything that reflect badly on their boy.



Again I think no other incident has been investigated with this level of diligence. Plus you had to lie to make it look like they had.

What is this nonsense about a liberal media?

 

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The first 7committees did not have subpoena power which is why it took an Act of Congress to establish the Benghazi committee that was able to get the facts to The American People.


I don't recall the committee subpoena for susan rice to testify. now if that would have happened and Obama blocked that, it would be a story.

__________________________________________________________________________

the committee did subpoena Susan Rice and Obama refused to allow her to testify citing "executive privilege".

The liberal media did not report it because the they filter out anything that reflect badly on their boy.



Again I think no other incident has been investigated with this level of diligence. Plus you had to lie to make it look like they had.

What is this nonsense about a liberal media?

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"Again I think"?
Since when?

No, I did not lie. If you claim so prove it or STFU.


 

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Muleman, shouldn't you be more outraged that the Republicans are going to let her get away with it? if she is guilty then whoever allows it shares the same blood on their hands.

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The Republicans are not "letting her get away with it".
They met their Constitutionally obligated oversight responsibility and made a factual report to the American People.

The Republicans had nothing to do with the Obama/Clinton decision to conduct a coup d'état in Libya with no plan for the next day.

The Republicans were not running arms and ordinance to Islamic Extremist Terrorists in Libya much of which ended up in Syria and Iraq and used against American soldiers.

The Republicans did not lie to The American People. That is totally on Obama and Hillary Clinton as is the blood of the murdered Americans.




 

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mule I looked pretty hard to find where susan rice was subpoenaed before the committee and where it was blocked by the administration. I can't find anything. now I do see where documents were held back by executive privilege for awhile, but were eventually released in maybe april? seems like if she refused to testify that would be noted in the report today. i'll check that when I get home from work. I hope you aren't sending me on a wild goose chase.....I could be sitting outside tonight drinking beer. but I will look.

 

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mule I looked pretty hard to find where susan rice was subpoenaed before the committee and where it was blocked by the administration. I can't find anything. now I do see where documents were held back by executive privilege for awhile, but were eventually released in maybe april? seems like if she refused to testify that would be noted in the report today. i'll check that when I get home from work. I hope you aren't sending me on a wild goose chase.....I could be sitting outside tonight drinking beer. but I will look.

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The committee chairman Trey Gowdy reported it at an open hearing in April.
You'll find the video on You Tube or CPAN.

And no, the Obama administration is still refusing to release many documents knowing they can drag this out until Obama is out of office.

 

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mule I looked pretty hard to find where susan rice was subpoenaed before the committee and where it was blocked by the administration. I can't find anything. now I do see where documents were held back by executive privilege for awhile, but were eventually released in maybe april? seems like if she refused to testify that would be noted in the report today. i'll check that when I get home from work. I hope you aren't sending me on a wild goose chase.....I could be sitting outside tonight drinking beer. but I will look.

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The committee chairman Trey Gowdy reported it at an open hearing in April.
You'll find the video on You Tube or CPAN.

And no, the Obama administration is still refusing to release many documents knowing they can drag this out until Obama is out of office.


Liar.

 

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mule I looked pretty hard to find where susan rice was subpoenaed before the committee and where it was blocked by the administration. I can't find anything. now I do see where documents were held back by executive privilege for awhile, but were eventually released in maybe april? seems like if she refused to testify that would be noted in the report today. i'll check that when I get home from work. I hope you aren't sending me on a wild goose chase.....I could be sitting outside tonight drinking beer. but I will look.

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The committee chairman Trey Gowdy reported it at an open hearing in April.
You'll find the video on You Tube or CPAN.

And no, the Obama administration is still refusing to release many documents knowing they can drag this out until Obama is out of office.


Liar.

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Prove it big mouth.

Yea, I know liberals get all flustered when presented with the facts. the concept of an open mind eludes you.


 

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  posted on 6/28/2016 at 04:53 PM
best i can find is the records were subpoenaed not susan rice.
http://benghazi.house.gov/news/press-releases/state-department-continues-to -defy-subpoena-citing-bogus-nonexistent-privileges

also susan rice was eventually interviewed.
http://benghazi.house.gov/news/press-releases/gowdy-select-committee-makes- significant-breakthroughs-interviews-75th-witness

so i would say your statement is partially correct.

ok time for a beer out in the sun, have a good evening muleman.


i also found this about 1100 pages of records being released in april
http://benghazi.house.gov/news/press-releases/over-one-year-later-state-dep artment-finally-turns-over-records-committee-still

[Edited on 6/28/2016 by LeglizHemp]

 

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Once again more GOP overreach and wasted tax payer money to find out what has already been rehashed over and over and over again. Nothing more could have been done to save those in the attack and we shouldn't have even been there because it was an impossible place to protect. The ambassador knew of these conditions and was warned that it was dangerous and that it was an impossible place to protect but they were willing to say there and take their chances. Bad decision IMO. Should our government have forced them to leave and not have an embassy in Benghazi??? Maybe but all involved knew the dangers and knew that there was no way to properly protect that embassy. End of story. This will have zero effect on the election. It is old news and it is more wasted tax payer $$$$$$$$!!!

 

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The first 7committees did not have subpoena power which is why it took an Act of Congress to establish the Benghazi committee that was able to get the facts to The American People.


I don't recall the committee subpoena for susan rice to testify. now if that would have happened and Obama blocked that, it would be a story.

__________________________________________________________________________

the committee did subpoena Susan Rice and Obama refused to allow her to testify citing "executive privilege".

The liberal media did not report it because the they filter out anything that reflect badly on their boy.



Again I think no other incident has been investigated with this level of diligence. Plus you had to lie to make it look like they had.

What is this nonsense about a liberal media?

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"Again I think"?
Since when?

No, I did not lie. If you claim so prove it or STFU.




Why don't you list the 657 Democratic investigations you cite. If you can't then you lied.

This whole thing is a non topic anyway as Clinton has not been directly implicated. It's all let the public read the 800 pages kind of BS. That an easy way to evade admitting they found FA.

 

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Once again more GOP overreach and wasted tax payer money to find out what has already been rehashed over and over and over again. Nothing more could have been done to save those in the attack and we shouldn't have even been there because it was an impossible place to protect. The ambassador knew of these conditions and was warned that it was dangerous and that it was an impossible place to protect but they were willing to say there and take their chances. Bad decision IMO. Should our government have forced them to leave and not have an embassy in Benghazi??? Maybe but all involved knew the dangers and knew that there was no way to properly protect that embassy. End of story. This will have zero effect on the election. It is old news and it is more wasted tax payer $$$$$$$$!!!


Bingo!

The GOP prosecutors political motivation was to impact the election. After all these inquiries, reports, and a marathon day / night of Clinton testifying before them, they still can't achieve the end they are seeking. In her multi-hour testimony she made them look like school boys in over their heads. And this is what gets sent to Washington to govern and work for us. Trey Gowdy looks like he was educated by another hack, Darrell Issa.

 

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i have mixed feelings about bengahzi- Back in 2012 I was of the opinion that this situation escalated and the result was a risk that came with a dangerous job in an anti- American territory. 4 years later and with the growth of isis it is clear there is no negotiating or backing off from any radical islamic threat. THey should have come in with a heavy response and inflicted serious casualties to all involved. Hillary either failed to act or followed a non-engagement policy that got 4 Americans killed while she was in a position to do something to change that.

 

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i have mixed feelings about bengahzi- Back in 2012 I was of the opinion that this situation escalated and the result was a risk that came with a dangerous job in an anti- American territory. 4 years later and with the growth of isis it is clear there is no negotiating or backing off from any radical islamic threat. THey should have come in with a heavy response and inflicted serious casualties to all involved. Hillary either failed to act or followed a non-engagement policy that got 4 Americans killed while she was in a position to do something to change that.


Do you have any idea how long it would take to mobilize troops and send them to another country? There is no way troops could have arrived in time.

 

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  posted on 6/28/2016 at 10:07 PM
i accept what 8 investigations have concluded. most of those investigations have been led by the GOP. i think it says alot about the republican party that their members don't trust the findings. i understand their confusion....i would be confused if the party i support was telling me that the opposite was true.

i hope they can ....hmmmmm.....find equilibrium.

 

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