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  posted on 6/25/2016 at 06:05 PM
Well actually I mean to shoot her own daughters. But hey, she was a vocal advocate for gun ownership. Obviously she makes a very compelling case.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-mother-killed-cops-fatally-s hooting-daughters-article-1.2687929

 
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  posted on 6/25/2016 at 07:35 PM
"It would be horribly tragic if my ability to protect myself or my family were to be taken away,"
Such irony in this statement , what a horrific story , just makes you wonder " what the hell " .

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 06:32 AM
It's all worth it so I can be free. 2nd Amendment says that woman was capable of owning a gun, so that's all there is to say. Price of freedom. God bless America.
 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 08:15 AM
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Price of freedom. God bless America.


Owning a gun is a right, but it is also a privilege. It goes hand in hand. There will always be individuals who will ignore one of those aspects when either defending or protesting that right. There are also "idiots" who infringe on the rights of others by demonstrating poor judgment in utilizing both the right to bear arms and the right to protest that right. A common ground can be found to bring a solution to the table, but "childish" thinking of wanting "my way or nothing", instant gratification, and the perception of looking at it merely from a black and white perspective is just going to continue to polarize both sides. But hey that is America today. F everyone else and how they think or feel.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 08:41 AM
I feel terrible, but I'd rather this happen than be inconvenienced and have to take a test every few years to demonstrate my responsibility.
 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 08:51 AM
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I feel terrible, but I'd rather this happen than be inconvenienced and have to take a test every few years to demonstrate my responsibility.


As it stands today, are you living day to day in fear you will get shot?

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 08:54 AM
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I feel terrible, but I'd rather this happen than be inconvenienced and have to take a test every few years to demonstrate my responsibility.

That's right. And what is worse is that if you failed the test they'd take away your guns. And who decides if you failed the test? The government, that's who. The very people who don't want you to have guns in the first place. These darn killings of innocent people are a nuisance and a distraction.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 09:07 AM
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I feel terrible, but I'd rather this happen than be inconvenienced and have to take a test every few years to demonstrate my responsibility.

These darn killings of innocent people are a nuisance and a distraction.


More accurately, a chance to gloat and make jokes about gun rights. Gun control advocates are
happy to see these stories come out, and if they say part of them is not pleased they're lying.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 09:21 AM
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I feel terrible, but I'd rather this happen than be inconvenienced and have to take a test every few years to demonstrate my responsibility.

These darn killings of innocent people are a nuisance and a distraction.


More accurately, a chance to gloat and make jokes about gun rights. Gun control advocates are
happy to see these stories come out, and if they say part of them is not pleased they're lying.


Who is gloating? Pointing out the fact that the gun situation is out of control is part of the discussion. This incident just shows it in real life. And why do you care? You have stated that you are OK with getting murdered as long as your rights are not taken away from you. You should be the one who is gloating about that woman's 2nd Amendment rights allowing her to protect herself from her unruly daughters.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 09:51 AM
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Price of freedom. God bless America.


Owning a gun is a right, but it is also a privilege. It goes hand in hand. There will always be individuals who will ignore one of those aspects when either defending or protesting that right. There are also "idiots" who infringe on the rights of others by demonstrating poor judgment in utilizing both the right to bear arms and the right to protest that right. A common ground can be found to bring a solution to the table, but "childish" thinking of wanting "my way or nothing", instant gratification, and the perception of looking at it merely from a black and white perspective is just going to continue to polarize both sides. But hey that is America today. F everyone else and how they think or feel.



It would help to know the TRUE motivations of your typical gun control proponent....


1. Is it really about public safety? Really now?

2. Is it based on the dislike of an object, and/or a similar resentment of someone
thinking differently than they do?

3. Is it to appear cool and trendy?

4. Is it an attempt to harass and/or control those they disagree with politically?

5. Is it to appear morally superior?


Most likely some or all of 2, 3, 4, 5. I'm sure this will be met with some disagreement.
If so, tell the audience what your true motivation is. Good luck.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 10:48 AM
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Price of freedom. God bless America.


Owning a gun is a right, but it is also a privilege. It goes hand in hand. There will always be individuals who will ignore one of those aspects when either defending or protesting that right. There are also "idiots" who infringe on the rights of others by demonstrating poor judgment in utilizing both the right to bear arms and the right to protest that right. A common ground can be found to bring a solution to the table, but "childish" thinking of wanting "my way or nothing", instant gratification, and the perception of looking at it merely from a black and white perspective is just going to continue to polarize both sides. But hey that is America today. F everyone else and how they think or feel.



It would help to know the TRUE motivations of your typical gun control proponent....


1. Is it really about public safety? Really now?

2. Is it based on the dislike of an object, and/or a similar resentment of someone
thinking differently than they do?

3. Is it to appear cool and trendy?

4. Is it an attempt to harass and/or control those they disagree with politically?

5. Is it to appear morally superior?


Most likely some or all of 2, 3, 4, 5. I'm sure this will be met with some disagreement.
If so, tell the audience what your true motivation is. Good luck.


If you are such an expert on the motivations of others, why even ask?

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 12:43 PM
Wow. Just shrug off people's genuine distress as hypocrisy. Whatever, man. Sometimes people need to actually think about things and process them, and figure out a sane compromise. People falling dead bleeding all over and you think we have to wait until we are in fear for our lives to even consider the issue.

Here is something I have for sure noticed. I have friends who are gun enthusiasts, as well as friends who think guns should all be "dumped to the bottom of the sea", as Skynrd so eloquently put it.

What I have noticed is that, bar NONE, well few exceptions at best, the people who are anti-gun are level, responsible, civic-minded, intelligent and peaceful individuals, and are the FIRST people I would trust with a gun, and the pro-gunners are unstable, paranoid and depressed, easily angered, confrontational, often ignorant and superstitious people who are candidates for suicide, and, when the xanax wears off, much worse and are the LAST people that should be armed.

Go figure. Catch-22 !

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 01:27 PM
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Well actually I mean to shoot her own daughters. But hey, she was a vocal advocate for gun ownership. Obviously she makes a very compelling case.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-mother-killed-cops-fatally-s hooting-daughters-article-1.2687929


If you want to be un-armed, and someone comes in your house to rob you, rape your wife, and/or children while you wait for the cops to come and save you. Go ahead. You have the right to choose to be a sitting duck and be at the mercy of any low life that crosses your path.

If on the other hand, you prefer to be vigilant, exercise good judgement, self control, but be ready to respond to nefarious people who break in your house, and you live in America, you have a right to be armed and ready and take out the little bastards that threaten your safety and security. Americans have the right to bear arms.

[Edited on 6/26/2016 by gina]

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 01:42 PM
Duh. Not an issue. The issue is nutbag idiots who keep guns around and shoot themselves, their families, or entire clienteles of public establishments. We have to figure out how to disarm these clowns.
 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 02:27 PM
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As it stands today, are you living day to day in fear you will get shot?


I think your argument about the odds just doesn't add up. I think it's only natural, and certainly understandable if someone is afraid to fly - it's been a common fear for decades for obvious reasons - the plane could crash. I think the same applies to those who might worry about sending their children to school or going to a theater or club.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 02:50 PM
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Price of freedom. God bless America.


Owning a gun is a right, but it is also a privilege. It goes hand in hand. There will always be individuals who will ignore one of those aspects when either defending or protesting that right. There are also "idiots" who infringe on the rights of others by demonstrating poor judgment in utilizing both the right to bear arms and the right to protest that right. A common ground can be found to bring a solution to the table, but "childish" thinking of wanting "my way or nothing", instant gratification, and the perception of looking at it merely from a black and white perspective is just going to continue to polarize both sides. But hey that is America today. F everyone else and how they think or feel.



It would help to know the TRUE motivations of your typical gun control proponent....


1. Is it really about public safety? Really now?

2. Is it based on the dislike of an object, and/or a similar resentment of someone
thinking differently than they do?

3. Is it to appear cool and trendy?

4. Is it an attempt to harass and/or control those they disagree with politically?

5. Is it to appear morally superior?


Most likely some or all of 2, 3, 4, 5. I'm sure this will be met with some disagreement.
If so, tell the audience what your true motivation is. Good luck.


If you are such an expert on the motivations of others, why even ask?


Curiosity. It could be none of the above, I have no idea. Just trying to understand the true
motivation(s) of the anti-gun mindset. Nobody seems willing to offer up explanations and it doesn't
seem that difficult. It might be a good discussion, and help us pro-gun folks understand what's
on your mind.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 04:06 PM
hahahah! Maybe if you sorta pull on the line and make the bait move a little you'll get a bite.
 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 04:45 PM
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Price of freedom. God bless America.


Owning a gun is a right, but it is also a privilege. It goes hand in hand. There will always be individuals who will ignore one of those aspects when either defending or protesting that right. There are also "idiots" who infringe on the rights of others by demonstrating poor judgment in utilizing both the right to bear arms and the right to protest that right. A common ground can be found to bring a solution to the table, but "childish" thinking of wanting "my way or nothing", instant gratification, and the perception of looking at it merely from a black and white perspective is just going to continue to polarize both sides. But hey that is America today. F everyone else and how they think or feel.



It would help to know the TRUE motivations of your typical gun control proponent....


1. Is it really about public safety? Really now?

2. Is it based on the dislike of an object, and/or a similar resentment of someone
thinking differently than they do?

3. Is it to appear cool and trendy?

4. Is it an attempt to harass and/or control those they disagree with politically?

5. Is it to appear morally superior?


Most likely some or all of 2, 3, 4, 5. I'm sure this will be met with some disagreement.
If so, tell the audience what your true motivation is. Good luck.


If you are such an expert on the motivations of others, why even ask?


Curiosity. It could be none of the above, I have no idea. Just trying to understand the true
motivation(s) of the anti-gun mindset. Nobody seems willing to offer up explanations and it doesn't
seem that difficult. It might be a good discussion, and help us pro-gun folks understand what's
on your mind.

What you fail to realize is that you don't have to be "anti-gun" to be in favor of reasonable gun regulations.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 05:11 PM
I am not anti-gun. The story I posted speaks for itself. This one is now right next to the story I originally posted.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/oregon-mom-kills-stranger-snuck-ch ild-bedroom-article-1.2688757

I hardly think though that some more gun regulation is the same as wanting to take everyone's guns away. I am mostly indifferent on the subject as nothing significant on the matter is going to happen.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 07:03 PM
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Price of freedom. God bless America.


Owning a gun is a right, but it is also a privilege. It goes hand in hand. There will always be individuals who will ignore one of those aspects when either defending or protesting that right. There are also "idiots" who infringe on the rights of others by demonstrating poor judgment in utilizing both the right to bear arms and the right to protest that right. A common ground can be found to bring a solution to the table, but "childish" thinking of wanting "my way or nothing", instant gratification, and the perception of looking at it merely from a black and white perspective is just going to continue to polarize both sides. But hey that is America today. F everyone else and how they think or feel.



It would help to know the TRUE motivations of your typical gun control proponent....


1. Is it really about public safety? Really now?

2. Is it based on the dislike of an object, and/or a similar resentment of someone
thinking differently than they do?

3. Is it to appear cool and trendy?

4. Is it an attempt to harass and/or control those they disagree with politically?

5. Is it to appear morally superior?


Most likely some or all of 2, 3, 4, 5. I'm sure this will be met with some disagreement.
If so, tell the audience what your true motivation is. Good luck.


If you are such an expert on the motivations of others, why even ask?


Curiosity. It could be none of the above, I have no idea. Just trying to understand the true
motivation(s) of the anti-gun mindset. Nobody seems willing to offer up explanations and it doesn't
seem that difficult. It might be a good discussion, and help us pro-gun folks understand what's
on your mind.


I'm not anti-gun, never have been. Keep a Sherman tank in your driveway for all I care.

No one is ever going to take your guns away, you are all set.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 07:59 PM
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Price of freedom. God bless America.


Owning a gun is a right, but it is also a privilege. It goes hand in hand. There will always be individuals who will ignore one of those aspects when either defending or protesting that right. There are also "idiots" who infringe on the rights of others by demonstrating poor judgment in utilizing both the right to bear arms and the right to protest that right. A common ground can be found to bring a solution to the table, but "childish" thinking of wanting "my way or nothing", instant gratification, and the perception of looking at it merely from a black and white perspective is just going to continue to polarize both sides. But hey that is America today. F everyone else and how they think or feel.



It would help to know the TRUE motivations of your typical gun control proponent....


1. Is it really about public safety? Really now?

2. Is it based on the dislike of an object, and/or a similar resentment of someone
thinking differently than they do?

3. Is it to appear cool and trendy?

4. Is it an attempt to harass and/or control those they disagree with politically?

5. Is it to appear morally superior?


Most likely some or all of 2, 3, 4, 5. I'm sure this will be met with some disagreement.
If so, tell the audience what your true motivation is. Good luck.


If you are such an expert on the motivations of others, why even ask?


Curiosity. It could be none of the above, I have no idea. Just trying to understand the true
motivation(s) of the anti-gun mindset. Nobody seems willing to offer up explanations and it doesn't
seem that difficult. It might be a good discussion, and help us pro-gun folks understand what's
on your mind.


I'm not anti-gun, never have been. Keep a Sherman tank in your driveway for all I care.

No one is ever going to take your guns away, you are all set.



Yep, all set. Sucks, doesn't it?

 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 08:16 PM
The price of freedom is eternal snark.
 

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  posted on 6/26/2016 at 08:18 PM
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Price of freedom. God bless America.


Owning a gun is a right, but it is also a privilege. It goes hand in hand. There will always be individuals who will ignore one of those aspects when either defending or protesting that right. There are also "idiots" who infringe on the rights of others by demonstrating poor judgment in utilizing both the right to bear arms and the right to protest that right. A common ground can be found to bring a solution to the table, but "childish" thinking of wanting "my way or nothing", instant gratification, and the perception of looking at it merely from a black and white perspective is just going to continue to polarize both sides. But hey that is America today. F everyone else and how they think or feel.



It would help to know the TRUE motivations of your typical gun control proponent....


1. Is it really about public safety? Really now?

2. Is it based on the dislike of an object, and/or a similar resentment of someone
thinking differently than they do?

3. Is it to appear cool and trendy?

4. Is it an attempt to harass and/or control those they disagree with politically?

5. Is it to appear morally superior?


Most likely some or all of 2, 3, 4, 5. I'm sure this will be met with some disagreement.
If so, tell the audience what your true motivation is. Good luck.


If you are such an expert on the motivations of others, why even ask?


Curiosity. It could be none of the above, I have no idea. Just trying to understand the true
motivation(s) of the anti-gun mindset. Nobody seems willing to offer up explanations and it doesn't
seem that difficult. It might be a good discussion, and help us pro-gun folks understand what's
on your mind.


I'm not anti-gun, never have been. Keep a Sherman tank in your driveway for all I care.

No one is ever going to take your guns away, you are all set.



Yep, all set. Sucks, doesn't it?


No, not at all. I don't care who owns what gun. Nothing I can do about it, nor can anyone else.

 

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  posted on 6/27/2016 at 01:30 AM
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Curiosity. It could be none of the above, I have no idea. Just trying to understand the true
motivation(s) of the anti-gun mindset. Nobody seems willing to offer up explanations and it doesn't
seem that difficult. It might be a good discussion, and help us pro-gun folks understand what's
on your mind.



LOL.

 

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Curiosity. It could be none of the above, I have no idea. Just trying to understand the true
motivation(s) of the anti-gun mindset. Nobody seems willing to offer up explanations and it doesn't
seem that difficult. It might be a good discussion, and help us pro-gun folks understand what's
on your mind.



LOL.

Like I said, it is not about being anti-gun for many people (I realize that for many it is), maybe even most people, who favor tighter access especially to certain kinds of weapons. I'd also say that extends to the current POTUS, despite alloak and other trying to convince us that he hates the second amendment and wants to take away all the guns.

For example, I say thank goodness this woman had a gun to defend her family...
http://wgme.com/news/nation-world/woman-shoots-kills-suspected-intruder-in- childs-bedroom

 

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