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  posted on 6/1/2016 at 02:43 PM
Taking advantage of vulnerable and gullible people with his bull **** con scam. Beyond not knowing anything about the issues and having zero decorum and acting like an elementary school level child maturity wise this guy is really some special kind of sleazy. No wonder why he diverted attention with his adolescent tirade against the media yesterday. Besides avoiding the normal questions about issues he was especially nasty to deflect and avoid anything about his sham of a university. Snake oil salesman of all time and the most immature, narcissistic, impulsive, sociopathic, egomaniac in the history of history.

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P.T Barnum said it best: "There is a sucker born every minute"
 

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P.T Barnum said it best: "There is a sucker born every minute"


P.T. Barnum didn't say that. David Hannum did.

 

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P.T. Barnum didn't say that. David Hannum did.

Quote Investigator: QI has located no persuasive evidence that Phineas Taylor Barnum who died in 1891 spoke or wrote this saying. Researcher Ralph Keyes presented a skeptical stance with his assertion in “The Quote Verifier” that “No modern historian takes seriously the routine attribution of this slogan to P. T. Barnum.” 1

There exists a family of closely related expressions with a long history. Here is a sampling together with years of occurrence. The first item listed employed dialectical spelling. The word “flat” was a synonym for “fool”. The abbreviation “attrib” means that the words were attributed to an individual, but the evidence was indirect:

1806: there vash von fool born every minute
1826: a new fool is born every day
1835: there is a flat born every minute
1877: there is a fool born every hour
1879: there’s a sucker born every minute (anonymous adage)
1882: there was a sucker born every minute (attrib anon con man)
1885: there was a sucker born every minute (attrib Hungry Joe)
1888: there is a sucker born every minute (attrib Artemus Ward)
1889: a sucker is born every minute (attrib Mike McDonald)
1890: a fool was born every minute (attrib P.T. Barnum)
1892: there was a sucker born every minute (attrib P.T. Barnum)
The above listing is a snapshot of current research results, and it will certainly change over time as more data is gathered. The earliest instances of these expressions were anonymous, and QI believes that later attributions had inadequate support.

Here are selected citations in chronological order.

In 1806 an article titled “Essay on False Genius” was published in “The European Magazine and London Review”. Within the article an instance of the saying was attributed to a fictitious commodity seller. The passage reflected the prejudices and stereotypes of the milieu, and the phrase was written in dialect. Boldface has been added to excerpts: 2

It was the observation of one of the tribe of Levi, to whom some person had expressed his astonishment at his being able to sell his damaged and worthless commodities, “That there vash von fool born every minute.” And perhaps the calculation might be brought to the proof, that not more than fifty men of genius are born in half a century.
In 1826 “The New-York Evening Post” reprinted an article about a letter that appeared in a London newspaper and appended the following remark. A version of the adage using “day” instead of “minute” was placed between quotation marks and designated a “principle” indicating that it was already in circulation. No attribution was given: 3

The writer of this letter wonders that the English will continue to trade with America, and can account for it only on the principle that “a new fool is born every day.”
In 1835 “Bell’s Life In London and Sporting Chronicle” printed an instance of the saying that used the word “flat” instead of “fool” or “sucker”. The term “flat” in this article was applied to an individual who mistakenly entrusted money to a swindler for safekeeping: 4

It is only surprising, after the repeated exposures of this species of robbery, that fresh flats are so frequently picked up; but, as these ingenious speculators say, “there is a flat born every minute;” and it is not likely the race will become extinct.
In 1839 “Fraser’s Magazine for Town and Country” printed an instance of the saying that used the word “flat” in the domain was horse racing: 5

Man may be fairly styled an animal of the class “gullible.” From the hour of his birth till the day of his death, never does the organ of credulity cease to bump out his cerebrum. It is a common saying among the legs of the turf, that “there is a flat born every minute.” No dictum can be based on better grounds.
In 1855 “The Yale Literary Magazine” published a comical poem about a baby show that mentioned P. T. Barnum and included word play with the terms “succor” and “sucker”. Note that a breast-feeding baby may be designated a “sucker”. Also, according to the Oxford English Dictionary the sense of “sucker” as a greenhorn or simpleton was already established by 1838: 6 7

They all were there in beauty so bright,
Arrayed in their very best bib and tucker:
Mr. Barnum provided for each one’s needs,
And gave needed succor to each little sucker.
Thus, the poem stated that Barnum was attending to the needs of newly born suckers. Nevertheless, the earliest known evidence for the saying “sucker born every minute” was dated 1879, and the ascription to Barnum only occurred more than a decade later as detailed further below.

In 1877 a London newspaper quoted a “sharper”, i.e., a criminal trickster, using a version of the expression with “hour” instead of “minute’: 8

“There is a fool born every hour,” said one of these sharpers to an informant of Mr. Anderson, the member for Glasgow, “and, thank Heaven, the majority of them live!”
In January 1879 the earliest instance using “sucker” appeared in an article titled “Gambling in Chicago” printed in “The Inter-Ocean” newspaper of Chicago, Illinois. The following words were attributed to an “old-timer”, and the saying was enclosed in single-quotation marks signaling that the phrase was already in circulation: 9

. . . in the season they make a bit on base ball, or on the races, and then, you know, ‘there’s a sucker born every minute,’ and rigid city legislation drives the hard-up gambler, who would be a decent one of the kind, to turn skin-dealer and sure-thing player.
In January 1882 another instance using “sucker” appeared in an article titled “Keep Your Money: People Would Do Well to Look Carefully before They Leap” printed in a Chicago, Illinois newspaper: 10

It was an expert confidence man who said that “there was a sucker born every minute, and some have remained suckers all their lives.”
In 1883 other instances of the phrase with “sucker” appeared. For example, a newspaper in New Haven, Connecticut ascribed an extended version of the adage to archetypal gamblers: 11

Gamblers call all outside their fraternity suckers. They say “There is a sucker born every minute, and New York is the best place in the world to catch them.”
Hungry Joe 04In 1885 a 41 page biographical sketch titled “The Life of Hungry Joe: King of the Bunco Men” was published, and the saying was ascribed to the notorious confidence man Joseph Lewis, aka Hungry Joe: 12

It was always a saying with Joe that there was a sucker born every minute, and all through his business career he acted on that basis, and generally found a good crop of them.
In October 1888 a New York newspaper described a jewelry-based swindle and the unfortunate souls who were deceived. The article ended with an instance of the saying ascribed to the popular humorist Artemus Ward, pen name of Charles Farrar Browne: 13

Old men and young men bit alike and the experience, although dearly bought will, no doubt, be a lesson to them. Then, too, they can console themselves with that famous expression of Artemus Ward’s that “there is a sucker born every minute.”
In September 1889 a Rockford, Illinois newspaper printed the saying and credited a well-known Chicago criminal named Mike McDonald: 14

They have long since proved the truth of Mike McDonald’s celebrated maxim that a sucker is born every minute.”
In October 1890 a clothing store ran an advertisement in the “Chicago Tribune” that ascribed to P.T. Barnum a version of the adage with the word “fool”. This was the earliest linkage to Barnum found by QI: 15

Any of these so-called Dry Goods stores go into the Clothing business by hiring a salesman from some clothing house, send him down to New York, and when he returns they “ADVERTISE” his purchases 40 per cent LESS than Clothing Store Prices. However, they don’t care a “—–” what they say in the papers, anything to get the crowd. Barnum said many years ago that a fool was born every minute.
In November 1891 the same clothing store ran another advertisement in the “Chicago Tribune” and credited Barnum with a slightly different phrasing that replaced “fool” with “new fool”: 16

The “Immortal” Barnum said every minute a new fool is born, and he catered that way and was successful. He could have kept successfully a “Department” Store.
In July 1892 a newspaper in Victoria, British Columbia reprinted a tale from a Montreal paper about a young Englishman who was swindled. The introduction presented an instance of the adage with the word “sucker”. This was the first linkage of Barnum to the “sucker” version of the maxim found by QI: 17

The appended sad story is clipped from the Montreal Herald of July 13, and, will be read with interest by Victorians: “The late P. T. Barnum, the king of showmen, often remarked that there was a sucker born every minute, and one of the slick gentlemen in Montreal evidently believes that it is true.”
In October 1892 the maxim was again ascribed to the defrauder Joseph Lewis, aka Hungry Joe, in the pages of a New York newspaper: 18

When Inspector Williams was only a Captain, and the notorious bunco steerer “Hungry Joe” was in the zenith of his very questionable fame, the Captain, in a fit of laudable curiosity, asked the swindling expert how it was that he managed to live so well by his wits.

“Why, don’t you know that there is a sucker born every minute?” Hungry Joe answered, in a tone of honest surprise that the Captain had not discovered the fact.
Secondary and tertiary sources have associated the adage with George Hull, David Hannum, Joseph Bessimer, Adam Forepaugh and others. However, the data in this article is based directly on passages in newspapers and books with known dates.

In conclusion, the two expressions “there’s a fool born every minute” and “there’s a sucker born every minute” both had anonymous attributions initially. Over time they were reassigned to prominent individuals of the time period.

However, only the fame of P.T. Barnum has endured. Today, the phrase “there’s a sucker born every minute” is often ascribed to him. Yet, support for this ascription is very weak. Citations occurred at the very end of his life and after his death.

(Special thanks to PatriotFan whose query led QI to formulate this question and motivated QI to write up results primarily obtained in 2010. Great thanks to Bill Mullins who located the January 7, 1882 citation. Bill also found a valuable citation using flat in June 1835. Thanks to other ADS discussants. Also thanks to Barry Popik for his valuable research on this topic. In addition, thanks to the volunteer Wikipedia editors and jb5911 who clipped the 1879 citation with “sucker” at newspapers.com)

Update History: On May 17, 2016 the citations dated February 22, 1835 and January 2, 1879 were added.

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2006, The Quote Verifier by Ralph Keyes, Quote Page 215, St Martin’s Griffin, New York. (Verified on paper) &#8617;
1806 January, The European Magazine and London Review, (By the Philological Society of London), Volume 49 (XLIX), Essay on False Genius, Start Page 25, Quote Page 26, Column 1, Published by James Asperne, London. (Google Books Full View) link &#8617;
1826 April 8, The New-York Evening Post (Evening Post), (Comment on article “From the Boston Statesman, April 5”), Quote Page 2, Column 3, New York. (GenealogyBank) &#8617;
1835 February 22, Bell’s Life In London and Sporting Chronicle, Police Intelligence: Union-Hall, Quote Page 4, Column 2, London, England. (British Newspaper Archive) &#8617;
1839 June, Fraser’s Magazine for Town and Country, Volume 19, Number 114, Anatomy of the Chess Automaton, Start Page 717, Quote Page 717, Published by James Fraser, London. (Google Books Full View) link &#8617;
Oxford English Dictionary: OED Online, Entry: sucker, noun, I, 1b figurative; Oxford University Press. (Accessed oed.com on April 10, 2014) &#8617;
1855 July, The Yale Literary Magazine, Conducted by the Students of Yale College, Volume 20, Number 8, Editor’s Table, Start Page 317, Quote Page 320, Published by Thomas H. Pease, New Haven, Connecticut. (Google Books Full View) link &#8617;
1877 August 18, The West-End News and London Advertiser, Betting Agencies and Fools, Quote Page 3, Column 1, London, Middlesex. (NewspaperArchive) &#8617;
1879 January 2, The Inter-Ocean, Gambling in Chicago, Quote Page 5, Column 2, Chicago, Illinois. (Newspapers_com) &#8617;
1882 January 7, Daily Inter Ocean, Keep Your Money: People Would Do Well to Look Carefully before They Leap, Quote Page 7, Column 3, Chicago, Illinois. (GenealogyBank) &#8617;
1883 March 17, New Haven Evening Register, How Gamblers Win: Forty Millions Squandered, Quote Page 3, Column 3, New Haven, Connecticut. (GenealogyBank) &#8617;
1885, The Life of Hungry Joe: King of the Bunco Men, Author name not specified, Subtitle: Dedicated to Countrymen with the Compliments of the Author, Quote Page 22, Published by Frank Tousey, New York. (Verified with scans from the Harvard College Library pamphlet digitization program) link &#8617;
1888 October 6, The Nunda News, Geneseo Suckers, Quote Page 3, Column 4, Nunda, New York. (Old Fulton) &#8617;
1889 September 5, Morning Star, It Was Yellow Day: Saffron-Hued Ribbons and Sunflowers the Order of the Hour, Quote Page 3, Column 3, Rockford, Illinois. (GenealogyBank) &#8617;
1890 October 19, Chicago Tribune, Advertisement for Willoughby & Hill Clothing Store, Quote Page 39, Column 4, Chicago, Illinois. (ProQuest) &#8617;
1891 November 6, Chicago Daily Tribune, Advertisement for Willoughby & Hill Clothing Store, Quote Page 5, Column 2 to 4, Chicago, Illinois. (ProQuest) &#8617;
1892 July 21, The Daily Colonist (Victoria Daily Colonist), The Old, Old Story, Quote Page 5, Column 1, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. (Old Fulton) &#8617;
1892 October 11, The Sun, The Hussar’s Treasure: Again the Rainbow Vanishes at Whose Foot It Lies, Quote Page 7, Column 5, New York. (Old Fulton) &#8617;
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  posted on 6/1/2016 at 08:16 PM
I was just reading that he owes a foreign bank at least 100 Million dollars.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/trumps-100-million-conflict-interest

 

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  posted on 6/2/2016 at 12:08 AM
We may not know who originally said it, but we know Donald Trump thought it and made money that way. Telling people to max out their credit cards to take his crappy courses is the lowest of the low.
 

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We may not know who originally said it, but we know Donald Trump thought it and made money that way. Telling people to max out their credit cards to take his crappy courses is the lowest of the low.

Kinda makes pretty much any future policy position he might take on student loan debt a joke before it is even proposed.

 

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We may not know who originally said it, but we know Donald Trump thought it and made money that way. Telling people to max out their credit cards to take his crappy courses is the lowest of the low.

Kinda makes pretty much any future policy position he might take on student loan debt a joke before it is even proposed.


Rumor is Trump will turn that over to Bernie. That way we will be assured there will not be any student loan debt.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2016 at 03:54 PM
I disagree. Trump University enabled people to take courses specific to what they needed to learn to use in their business lives. They did not waste anyone's time with fluff and nonsense the way most universities do. Maybe he should not have called it a university, which has legal requirements to be called that. They had programs tailored for real estate, wealth management and preservation and entrepreneurs. You could just take whatever you needed for the area you were interested in. I do not think it was bad at all. I think it bothered some other schools who wanted people to spend years in THEIR programs to come out with a degree. Trump did it better. Just take the courses you need.

What's wrong with that?

Yes I read the NY Times article, I do not know what happened over the years with instructors. All schools court their potential students to get them to enroll, people always have hesitation whether it is in buying a house or any other large purchase. Of course they would need to overcome those objections. I do not think Donald was out to rip anybody off. Michael Sexton was the President of Trump University, you don't see any negative remarks coming from him or anyone accusing him of anything do you? There are people who probably took courses, and used that to help them in their business lives, but they are not going to stand up and be a poster child for scrutiny, criticism and accusations. There has been a witchhunt against Donald Trump since he decided to run for President, so it is not surprising certain people will come at him from any way possible. That's all this is.

How's it going to look when team Hillary spends 91 (that's right ninety one) Million dollars on advertising to try to win the election if she is not successful? That's what is in the budget. Ninety One million dollars. Now with those Diebold voting machines, well we all know about that. Even the Senators who complained about it were moved out of office in one way or another. Redistrict their state, use any means possible. The election should be about integrity and the true will of the people, not using brainwashing via media advertising, crooked voting machines, etc. Of course if there is a national emergency, the sitting President does not leave office, he just stays there to deal with whatever the problem(s) are.





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I disagree. Trump University enabled people to take courses specific to what they needed to learn to use in their business lives. They did not waste anyone's time with fluff and nonsense the way most universities do. Maybe he should not have called it a university, which has legal requirements to be called that. They had programs tailored for real estate, wealth management and preservation and entrepreneurs. You could just take whatever you needed for the area you were interested in. I do not think it was bad at all. I think it bothered some other schools who wanted people to spend years in THEIR programs to come out with a degree. Trump did it better. Just take the courses you need.

What's wrong with that?

Did you actually enroll there? Because what you just described does not line up with what I have read/seen coming out of the court case.

 

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No, but I strongly considered doing it.

 

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No, but I strongly considered doing it.

What stopped you?

 

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How's it going to look when team Hillary spends 91 (that's right ninety one) Million dollars on advertising to try to win the election if she is not successful?


Ask Mitt Romney. In 2012 he spent $1.019 billion. With a B.

 

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Heck, Obama and Romney spent almost $100 million combined on online ads alone.

 

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I think it bothered some other schools who wanted people to spend years in THEIR programs to come out with a degree. Trump did it better. Just take the courses you need.


I'd love to be a hiring manager and have someone come in with a Trump University degree on their resume. That would be a hoot.

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There has been a witchhunt against Donald Trump since he decided to run for President, so it is not surprising certain people will come at him from any way possible. That's all this is.


You're just saying that to dismiss anything bad said about him, true or not. But, everyone does that in politics.

 

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I disagree. Trump University enabled people to take courses specific to what they needed to learn to use in their business lives. They did not waste anyone's time with fluff and nonsense the way most universities do. Maybe he should not have called it a university, which has legal requirements to be called that. They had programs tailored for real estate, wealth management and preservation and entrepreneurs. You could just take whatever you needed for the area you were interested in. I do not think it was bad at all. I think it bothered some other schools who wanted people to spend years in THEIR programs to come out with a degree. Trump did it better. Just take the courses you need.

What's wrong with that?

Yes I read the NY Times article, I do not know what happened over the years with instructors. All schools court their potential students to get them to enroll, people always have hesitation whether it is in buying a house or any other large purchase. Of course they would need to overcome those objections. I do not think Donald was out to rip anybody off. Michael Sexton was the President of Trump University, you don't see any negative remarks coming from him or anyone accusing him of anything do you? There are people who probably took courses, and used that to help them in their business lives, but they are not going to stand up and be a poster child for scrutiny, criticism and accusations. There has been a witchhunt against Donald Trump since he decided to run for President, so it is not surprising certain people will come at him from any way possible. That's all this is.

How's it going to look when team Hillary spends 91 (that's right ninety one) Million dollars on advertising to try to win the election if she is not successful? That's what is in the budget. Ninety One million dollars. Now with those Diebold voting machines, well we all know about that. Even the Senators who complained about it were moved out of office in one way or another. Redistrict their state, use any means possible. The election should be about integrity and the true will of the people, not using brainwashing via media advertising, crooked voting machines, etc. Of course if there is a national emergency, the sitting President does not leave office, he just stays there to deal with whatever the problem(s) are.





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Read the piece. These claims come from both customers and the Trump salespeople and so called teachers. I saw interviews with many of them and they are very credible. All of the people backing Trump are involved with his company so they are obviously gonna back the boss. It was obviously a scam to take advantage of people sucking more and more from them for the next levels of the classes to learn the 'real secrets' until they drained them dry completely. Sleazy blood sucker who cares about nobody but himself. This guy would be a psychologist's dream.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2016 at 04:17 PM
Trump's MO is to malign and denigrate anyone who disagrees with him, and sadly he has maligned and denigrated his way to the nomination. I would say this is a new low but I'm not sure that would be true given how low he hss already gone at various times. A friend of mine who is a defense lawyer personally knows this judge and said he is widely known as a very fair judge, her words: "even the defense bar thinks so."

Judge Attacked By Trump Has Long History of Serving His Country

Donald Trump’s blatantly racially motivated denunciation of Gonzalo Curiel, the presiding judge over a pair of Trump University lawsuits, draws attention away from Curiel’s distinguished career serving the nation’s judiciary.

The Indiana-born judge first entered the public consciousness during a recent rally held by Trump, in which he devoted 15 minutes to bashing Curiel and the “rigged” system that landed his scam “university” in court — it was a blatant attack on the nation’s independent judiciary.

“The judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican, which is great, I think that’s fine,” said Trump. “You know what? I think the Mexicans are going to end up loving Donald Trump when I give all these jobs, OK?”

Trump’s questioning of Curiel’s loyalty to the country of his birth is a disservice to the long career Curiel has had in the American justice system.

As Slate’s William Saletan wrote shortly after the attack, “This isn’t a complaint about illegal immigrants. It’s not even a dog whistle. It’s a straight-up appeal to prejudice. It’s about the color of your skin, the sound of your last name, and where your ancestors came from.”

Curiel is no normal judge. Appointed by President Barack Obama, he has led the way in cracking down on the drug cartels operating between the Mexican-American border.

That’s not an easy job, especially considering that Mexican cartels often rely on lawlessness and the absence of state power to exercise free reign in the areas they control. An imaginary line on the map doesn’t change those goals.

From 1989 until to 2002, Curiel served as an assistant U.S. attorney in southern California. As the deputy chief, and later, chief of the Narcotics Enforcement Division, he aided his Mexican counterparts in dealing with narcotics distribution and the drug cartels. In 2002, The New York Times named Curiel as one of the central figures in weakening the power of the Arellano Félix cartel, once one of the most notoriously violent cartels in Mexico.

“The trusted assassins the Arellanos had, like La Rana, are gone. The money launderers, taken out,” said Curiel to the newspaper at the end of the efforts to bring down the cartel. “There’s been so much corrosion, so much dismantling of the network…much of the structure is gone.”

As far back as 1997, Curiel was reported to have been taking on Mexican drug cartels. He lived under tight security for fear of assassination, a favorite tool of cartels. At the time, Emilio Valdez Mainero, a member of the Arellano Félix cartel, said in a bugged conversation with a inmate-turned-informant that he wanted to kill Curiel. Threats at the time were taken seriously, especially given the high profile murders of Tijuana’s police chief in February 2000, followed shortly by the murder of Jose Patiño, a prosecutor who Curiel had personally worked with in stopping the cartels.

The fact that Curiel, and the rest of the task force aimed at helping stop the drug cartels, were of Mexican descent further increased cooperation between the Mexican and American governments. “We were working without the disconnect of interpreters and barriers of culture. When it comes down to it, this involves the country of our parents,” said Curiel.

The imperious contempt Trump has for Mexican immigrants would surely prevent any similar collaboration from taking place.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/judge-attacked-trump-long-history-serving-count ry/


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I disagree. Trump University enabled people to take courses specific to what they needed to learn to use in their business lives. They did not waste anyone's time with fluff and nonsense the way most universities do. Maybe he should not have called it a university, which has legal requirements to be called that. They had programs tailored for real estate, wealth management and preservation and entrepreneurs. You could just take whatever you needed for the area you were interested in. I do not think it was bad at all. I think it bothered some other schools who wanted people to spend years in THEIR programs to come out with a degree. Trump did it better. Just take the courses you need.

What's wrong with that?

Yes I read the NY Times article, I do not know what happened over the years with instructors. All schools court their potential students to get them to enroll, people always have hesitation whether it is in buying a house or any other large purchase. Of course they would need to overcome those objections. I do not think Donald was out to rip anybody off. Michael Sexton was the President of Trump University, you don't see any negative remarks coming from him or anyone accusing him of anything do you? There are people who probably took courses, and used that to help them in their business lives, but they are not going to stand up and be a poster child for scrutiny, criticism and accusations. There has been a witchhunt against Donald Trump since he decided to run for President, so it is not surprising certain people will come at him from any way possible. That's all this is.

How's it going to look when team Hillary spends 91 (that's right ninety one) Million dollars on advertising to try to win the election if she is not successful? That's what is in the budget. Ninety One million dollars. Now with those Diebold voting machines, well we all know about that. Even the Senators who complained about it were moved out of office in one way or another. Redistrict their state, use any means possible. The election should be about integrity and the true will of the people, not using brainwashing via media advertising, crooked voting machines, etc. Of course if there is a national emergency, the sitting President does not leave office, he just stays there to deal with whatever the problem(s) are.





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When I first read your opinion I thought you were attempting new comedy lines, but then I realized you are actually serious...wow...just wow.

I just saw a very good interview with the Attorney General of New York. He would intelligently disagree with you. Fraud is fraud.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/02/politics/eric-schneiderman-attorney-general-t rump-university-fraud/

 

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No, but I strongly considered doing it.

What stopped you?


The FBI agent who wiretapped her shoes.

 

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So I guess the muledouche thread got pulled?

 

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I think it bothered some other schools who wanted people to spend years in THEIR programs to come out with a degree. Trump did it better. Just take the courses you need.


I'd love to be a hiring manager and have someone come in with a Trump University degree on their resume. That would be a hoot.




If there ever was a "degree" that is worth less that a degree from Oral Roberts University, Trump University is it. Quick trip to the circular file.

 

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-says-he-plans-to-reopen-trump-univ ersity-after-lawsuit/

The great one plans to reopen Trump U. Maybe they'll have a football team.

Wonder how many of those voting for him might enroll.


 

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  posted on 6/3/2016 at 07:39 AM

Trump escalates attack on 'Mexican' judge

By Hanna Trudo
Updated 06/02/16 11:27 PM EDT

Donald Trump escalated his attacks on the federal judge presiding over a civil fraud lawsuit against Trump University on Thursday, questioning his impartiality in handling the case because his Mexican heritage is "an inherent conflict of interest."

Less than six hours after securing the endorsement of House Speaker Paul Ryan, the presumptive Republican nominee said that U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel had “an absolute conflict” due to his ethnic background, adding, “I’m building a wall. It’s an inherent conflict of interest,” according to a interview in The Wall Street Journal.

Curiel was born in East Chicago, Indiana, to Mexican parents. He spent years prosecuting drug traffickers coming across the U.S.-Mexico border as a top official in the Justice Department's South District of California, and was later appointed to the federal bench by President Barack Obama.

Trump's comments come hours after he expressed confidence that he would win the case regardless of Curiel's alleged bias.

"Even though I have a very biased and unfair judge in the Trump U civil case in San Diego, I have thousands of great reviews & will win case!," he wrote earlier on Thursday. "After the litigation is disposed of and the case won, I have instructed my execs to open Trump U(?), so much interest in it! I will be pres."

It's not the first time Trump has attacked Curiel. At a rally on Friday in San Diego, he called him a "hater" during a 12-minute diatribe about the Trump University case and mentioned the judge's Mexican background, though he called it "great" and "fine."

His campaign has likewise gone after Curiel on ethnic grounds — though it apparently confused one Hispanic group with another.

"I think what's really interesting about this particular judge -- as Mr. Trump refers to him as a 'Trump hater' -- is he even mentions on his judicial questionnaire that he was a La Raza Lawyers Association member," Trump spokeswoman Katrina Pierson said on CNN earlier this week. "This is an organization that has been out there organizing anti-Trump protesters with the Mexican flags -- they are pushing it. The signs have been very apparent. And so Mr. Trump is just stating the obvious."

Pierson seems to have mixed up the La Raza Lawyers Association — an apolitical, professional group for Latino lawyers and judges — with the National Council of La Raza, a left-leaning Hispanic activist group headquartered in Washington, D.C.

Trump also leveled a new complaint against Curiel on Thursday: that he was friendly with one of the plaintiffs' lawyers in the Trump University case, a former colleague.

The lawyer, Jason Forge, denied that.

“Neither Judge Curiel’s ethnicity nor the fact that we crossed paths as prosecutors in the U.S. Attorney’s Office well over a decade ago is to blame,” Forge told the paper.

Curiel has yet to comment on Trump's accusations.

Later on Thursday night, an angry Megyn Kelly berated Trump supporter Bill Bennett about the real estate mogul's comments on her Fox News show.

“First of all, people are saying that this judge is a member of La Raza, the group that’s been protesting Donald Trump. He isn’t,” Kelly said. “He’s a member of a Hispanic lawyers' association that has no partisan stripes whatsoever. They support Hispanic lawyers and judges.”

Kelly, a former lawyer, pressed on.

“He has no conflict of interest, Bill,” she said. “Now Donald Trump is saying the judge needs to be investigated, someone should look into him just because he’s ruled against Donald Trump in his litigation repeatedly. That doesn’t make you biased. It just doesn’t.”

Kelly also speculated that Curiel is being harassed as a result of Trump’s attacks.

“When he does this, I guarantee you right now that this judge is getting threats and vitriol and who knows what else,” she said.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-judge-gonzalo-curiel-223 849

 

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  posted on 6/3/2016 at 08:11 AM
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So I guess the muledouche thread got pulled?


Looks that way. Oh well.

 

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  posted on 6/3/2016 at 08:25 AM
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So I guess the muledouche thread got pulled?


Looks that way. Oh well.


Nope it's still there but your troll is gone, you must be so proud of your work.

 

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