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Obama cheers economy as 'pretty darn great'
by KATHLEEN HENNESSEY, The Associated Press
33 minutes ago
WASHINGTON --
Once reluctant to hype the U.S. economy's slow climb out of recession, President Barack Obama now is in cheerleader mode.
"America's pretty darn great right now," Obama told reporters Friday as he celebrated a strong jobs report that he said proved Republicans' "doomsday rhetoric" is little more than "fantasy."
Obama's brief remarks were a striking turn for a president who for most of his seven years in office has put on a sober face every time he spoke about the economy. Years of slow jobs growth and stagnant wages made the president and his team wary of seeming out of step with the plight of Americans still feeling the aftereffects of the recession.
Those concerns seemed a thing of the past on Friday. Hours after a new Labor Department report showed employers added 242,000 workers in February, Obama called reporters to the Roosevelt Room at the White House, and he didn't hold back.
"Our businesses have created jobs every single month since I signed that job-killing Obamacare bill," Obama said, digging at the Republicans' favorite name for his health-care law.
Obama didn't name names but showed he's been following the especially combative GOP nomination fight. He seemed ready to get off the sidelines.
The president said he looks forward to "forcefully" making his case for changing the conversation to a debate over investing in education and infrastructure and increasing wages, "not fantasy, not name-calling."

 
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The economy is strong in my neck of the woods.

 

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  posted on 3/4/2016 at 04:51 PM
Great for some, not for others. Par for the course the past 40 odd years.



 

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Shocker that the narcissist & chief would take a victory lap.

How do his comments square with the fact that we have nearly record low labor participation rates, record high food stamp usage that even the Washington Post calls "astonishing", lowest percentages of home ownership since the 60's, and trade deficits at near records.

Only someone desperate to construct a legacy for themselves would count this as "pretty darn great". I'd say he's a naive fool, but he's playing a complacent media and somnambulant public as fools.

Sadder is that he'll influence those too young or too ignorant to know this is an artificial creation that's on it's last legs.

One thing's for sure: every time this idiot takes a victory lap, you can be pretty sure that the exact opposite is soon to follow. Isis is a JV team? Check! Gun control? He's been the best gun salesman in history. Thing's are "pretty darn good"? Best stock up on gold, food, and ammo, cause the crash is sure to come soon and the bubble is about to burst!

 

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Shocker that the narcissist & chief would take a victory lap.

How do his comments square with the fact that we have nearly record low labor participation rates, record high food stamp usage that even the Washington Post calls "astonishing", lowest percentages of home ownership since the 60's, and trade deficits at near records.

Only someone desperate to construct a legacy for themselves would count this as "pretty darn great". I'd say he's a naive fool, but he's playing a complacent media and somnambulant public as fools.

Sadder is that he'll influence those too young or too ignorant to know this is an artificial creation that's on it's last legs.

One thing's for sure: every time this idiot takes a victory lap, you can be pretty sure that the exact opposite is soon to follow. Isis is a JV team? Check! Gun control? He's been the best gun salesman in history. Thing's are "pretty darn good"? Best stock up on gold, food, and ammo, cause the crash is sure to come soon and the bubble is about to burst!
come out of your bubble and take a deep breath

 

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Shocker that the narcissist & chief would take a victory lap.

How do his comments square with the fact that we have nearly record low labor participation rates, record high food stamp usage that even the Washington Post calls "astonishing", lowest percentages of home ownership since the 60's, and trade deficits at near records.

Only someone desperate to construct a legacy for themselves would count this as "pretty darn great". I'd say he's a naive fool, but he's playing a complacent media and somnambulant public as fools.

Sadder is that he'll influence those too young or too ignorant to know this is an artificial creation that's on it's last legs.

One thing's for sure: every time this idiot takes a victory lap, you can be pretty sure that the exact opposite is soon to follow. Isis is a JV team? Check! Gun control? He's been the best gun salesman in history. Thing's are "pretty darn good"? Best stock up on gold, food, and ammo, cause the crash is sure to come soon and the bubble is about to burst!


How did your investments do during his time in office and compare that to the Bush years? Mine are at all time highs as we speak.

Have fun voting for the GOP candidate in November. See where it gets you.

 

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If he was a Republican, you both - along with most of the media - would be hammering on those same failures.

Interesting how the same people who love to point out greed to assail the success of others now use investment success to justify political support.

Hope you realize and feel good about the fact that the policies that brought this temporary success also created the biggest wage disparity in decades, and sent the 1% into the stratosphere. None of the core economic problems left over from the last crash have been be fixed. We merely printed money and set artificially low interest rates.

Gold has jumped 20% since December, signalling a run to safety by those who know. For much of the Bush Presidency, most felt good about their investments and the market - right up until the bottom fell out. Barry could still see the same happen.

 

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Hope you realize and feel good about the fact that the policies that brought this temporary success also created the biggest wage disparity in decades, and sent the 1% into the stratosphere.


Sounds like you're feeling the Bern.

I like the sentiment that "America is pretty darn great right now" to the extent that it counters Trump's wacky ideas about how to "make America great again".

 

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Hope you realize and feel good about the fact that the policies that brought this temporary success also created the biggest wage disparity in decades, and sent the 1% into the stratosphere.
Sounds like you're feeling the Bern.

I like the sentiment that "America is pretty darn great right now" to the extent that it counters Trump's wacky ideas about how to "make America great again".
Haha, not even close to feeling "the Bern" Bob

I still believe in capitalism. I just want to see all the elements of crony capitalism dismantled, a return to when there wasn't too-big-to-fail, when the markets weren't dependent on the Fed's manipulations, and when regulations weren't depressing new start-ups. Fix our horrendous tax system, re-do trade policy to benefit us once again, and let the most successful economic model in human history roll once again.

That's pretty anti-Bern, if I understand his ideas correctly.

 

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Hope you realize and feel good about the fact that the policies that brought this temporary success also created the biggest wage disparity in decades, and sent the 1% into the stratosphere.
Sounds like you're feeling the Bern.

I like the sentiment that "America is pretty darn great right now" to the extent that it counters Trump's wacky ideas about how to "make America great again".
Haha, not even close to feeling "the Bern" Bob

I still believe in capitalism. I just want to see all the elements of crony capitalism dismantled, a return to when there wasn't too-big-to-fail, when the markets weren't dependent on the Fed's manipulations, and when regulations weren't depressing new start-ups. Fix our horrendous tax system, re-do trade policy to benefit us once again, and let the most successful economic model in human history roll once again.

That's pretty anti-Bern, if I understand his ideas correctly.

I knew that, but I couldn't help myself.

 

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If he was a Republican, you both - along with most of the media - would be hammering on those same failures.

Interesting how the same people who love to point out greed to assail the success of others now use investment success to justify political support.

Hope you realize and feel good about the fact that the policies that brought this temporary success also created the biggest wage disparity in decades, and sent the 1% into the stratosphere. None of the core economic problems left over from the last crash have been be fixed. We merely printed money and set artificially low interest rates.

Gold has jumped 20% since December, signalling a run to safety by those who know. For much of the Bush Presidency, most felt good about their investments and the market - right up until the bottom fell out. Barry could still see the same happen.


First off you're absolutely wrong if you include me in the "greed" sentence. That's not one of my high priorities. If you've read enough of my posts, I've stated that my priority are social issues which can be separated from economic / greed issues. I expect you to disagree.

Secondly, the gold bump is just that...a bump. It meanders around and pops up. How many years did it take to get to slightly below 1900 in qtr. 3 of 2011 and dropped approximately 46% to somewhere to around 1040 in December 2015? So you get a bump, and speculators have made short term $$$. The doom and gloomers run for safety with gold. I wonder how many have really made tremendous profits off of false sense of fear. Where's it going to get you in the long term. To me it's a play no different than any other stock or commodity.

 

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Shocker that the narcissist & chief would take a victory lap.

How do his comments square with the fact that we have nearly record low labor participation rates, record high food stamp usage that even the Washington Post calls "astonishing", lowest percentages of home ownership since the 60's, and trade deficits at near records.

Only someone desperate to construct a legacy for themselves would count this as "pretty darn great". I'd say he's a naive fool, but he's playing a complacent media and somnambulant public as fools.

Sadder is that he'll influence those too young or too ignorant to know this is an artificial creation that's on it's last legs.

One thing's for sure: every time this idiot takes a victory lap, you can be pretty sure that the exact opposite is soon to follow. Isis is a JV team? Check! Gun control? He's been the best gun salesman in history. Thing's are "pretty darn good"? Best stock up on gold, food, and ammo, cause the crash is sure to come soon and the bubble is about to burst!T


Wow Rich. Narcissist, fool, desperate, naive, ignorant, artificial, idiot....all words used by you to describe Obama and his supporters. Being conservative is one thing, but I can't help but wonder about someone who holds such contempt for a nice guy trying to do good things, who at the same time appears to be indifferent to a hateful and nasty person like Trump. How do you expect to sell your side?

FYI, when you leave out the anger and hatred, you usually can out-debate anyone, and sell anyone.

 

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If he was a Republican, you both - along with most of the media - would be hammering on those same failures.

Interesting how the same people who love to point out greed to assail the success of others now use investment success to justify political support.

Hope you realize and feel good about the fact that the policies that brought this temporary success also created the biggest wage disparity in decades, and sent the 1% into the stratosphere. None of the core economic problems left over from the last crash have been be fixed. We merely printed money and set artificially low interest rates.

Gold has jumped 20% since December, signalling a run to safety by those who know. For much of the Bush Presidency, most felt good about their investments and the market - right up until the bottom fell out. Barry could still see the same happen.
It seems YOU are the same old bitter malcontent. blame failed conservative policy's that took place prior to 2009 and a do-nothing conservative controlled house of congress.

 

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Shocker that the narcissist & chief would take a victory lap.

How do his comments square with the fact that we have nearly record low labor participation rates, record high food stamp usage that even the Washington Post calls "astonishing", lowest percentages of home ownership since the 60's, and trade deficits at near records.

Only someone desperate to construct a legacy for themselves would count this as "pretty darn great". I'd say he's a naive fool, but he's playing a complacent media and somnambulant public as fools.

Sadder is that he'll influence those too young or too ignorant to know this is an artificial creation that's on it's last legs.

One thing's for sure: every time this idiot takes a victory lap, you can be pretty sure that the exact opposite is soon to follow. Isis is a JV team? Check! Gun control? He's been the best gun salesman in history. Thing's are "pretty darn good"? Best stock up on gold, food, and ammo, cause the crash is sure to come soon and the bubble is about to burst!T
Wow Rich. Narcissist, fool, desperate, naive, ignorant, artificial, idiot....all words used by you to describe Obama and his supporters. Being conservative is one thing, but I can't help but wonder about someone who holds such contempt for a nice guy trying to do good things, who at the same time appears to be indifferent to a hateful and nasty person like Trump. How do you expect to sell your side?

FYI, when you leave out the anger and hatred, you usually can out-debate anyone, and sell anyone.
Its not one bit different than when so many around here were Bush-crazy, blaming him for everything. You might think he's a nice guy, and I have no problem with that, nor do I think less of anyone who does.

I'm just thankful that our system of checks and balances have stopped most of the silly things he's proposed, because there hasn't been a creative idea or real solution in any of it. Unfortunately, the feckless Republican Congress has be awful at offering alternatives, because the establishment R's want essentially the same thing.

It's all more gov't, more spending, more central control. That only leads one place - more corruption, less liberty, and more dependency. Those are the outcomes desired by people who believe they're smarter than everyone, don't trust what free people will chose for themselves, and want to dictate those choices. If there's a reason I dislike him so, there it is. And BTW - I don't see Trump much differently.

 

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But putting this aside for a minute, I'm getting ready to leave my hotel in a few minutes, walk up Broadway to the Beacon, and enjoy what I hope will be a great show. Away from our gov't, far from everything is grim and joyless.

 

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Shocker that the narcissist & chief would take a victory lap.

How do his comments square with the fact that we have nearly record low labor participation rates, record high food stamp usage that even the Washington Post calls "astonishing", lowest percentages of home ownership since the 60's, and trade deficits at near records.

Only someone desperate to construct a legacy for themselves would count this as "pretty darn great". I'd say he's a naive fool, but he's playing a complacent media and somnambulant public as fools.

Sadder is that he'll influence those too young or too ignorant to know this is an artificial creation that's on it's last legs.

One thing's for sure: every time this idiot takes a victory lap, you can be pretty sure that the exact opposite is soon to follow. Isis is a JV team? Check! Gun control? He's been the best gun salesman in history. Thing's are "pretty darn good"? Best stock up on gold, food, and ammo, cause the crash is sure to come soon and the bubble is about to burst!T
Wow Rich. Narcissist, fool, desperate, naive, ignorant, artificial, idiot....all words used by you to describe Obama and his supporters. Being conservative is one thing, but I can't help but wonder about someone who holds such contempt for a nice guy trying to do good things, who at the same time appears to be indifferent to a hateful and nasty person like Trump. How do you expect to sell your side?

FYI, when you leave out the anger and hatred, you usually can out-debate anyone, and sell anyone.
Its not one bit different than when so many around here were Bush-crazy, blaming him for everything. You might think he's a nice guy, and I have no problem with that, nor do I think less of anyone who does.

I'm just thankful that our system of checks and balances have stopped most of the silly things he's proposed, because there hasn't been a creative idea or real solution in any of it. Unfortunately, the feckless Republican Congress has be awful at offering alternatives, because the establishment R's want essentially the same thing.

It's all more gov't, more spending, more central control. That only leads one place - more corruption, less liberty, and more dependency. Those are the outcomes desired by people who believe they're smarter than everyone, don't trust what free people will chose for themselves, and want to dictate those choices. If there's a reason I dislike him so, there it is. And BTW - I don't see Trump much differently.

So the bush presidency was 8 years of bliss???. he [and cheney] deserved every bit of criticism they received,and then some. the difference in the cheney/bush presidency and Obama is a simple comparison. 2001/2009 this country was driven into the ground. 2009-2016 this country was dug out of the ground,no thanks to any conservative.

 

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Its not one bit different than when so many around here were Bush-crazy, blaming him for everything. You might think he's a nice guy, and I have no problem with that, nor do I think less of anyone who does.

I'm just thankful that our system of checks and balances have stopped most of the silly things he's proposed, because there hasn't been a creative idea or real solution in any of it. Unfortunately, the feckless Republican Congress has be awful at offering alternatives, because the establishment R's want essentially the same thing.

It's all more gov't, more spending, more central control. That only leads one place - more corruption, less liberty, and more dependency. Those are the outcomes desired by people who believe they're smarter than everyone, don't trust what free people will chose for themselves, and want to dictate those choices. If there's a reason I dislike him so, there it is. And BTW - I don't see Trump much differently.


This explains things a lot better. Thank you for clarifying.


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But putting this aside for a minute, I'm getting ready to leave my hotel in a few minutes, walk up Broadway to the Beacon, and enjoy what I hope will be a great show. Away from our gov't, far from everything is grim and joyless.


Now who can argue with that? Not me. Who did you see? Hope it was a good show.

 

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Now who can argue with that? Not me. Who did you see? Hope it was a good show.
Steven Wilson, who used to front the amazing band Porcupine Tree about 10 years ago, and has been solo ever since. His latest album; Hand. Cannot. Erase., was played in its entirety, with a second half comprised of various solo and PT tunes. Awesome show - one of the top 5 that I've ever seen.

 

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Now who can argue with that? Not me. Who did you see? Hope it was a good show.
Steven Wilson, who used to front the amazing band Porcupine Tree about 10 years ago, and has been solo ever since. His latest album; Hand. Cannot. Erase., was played in its entirety, with a second half comprised of various solo and PT tunes. Awesome show - one of the top 5 that I've ever seen.


I have seen him a few times with Porcupine Tree and solo. He writes everything for surround sound, so I have all his disks in surround sound. I saw the Hand Cannot Erase tour last year and it was awesome. Seeing him tomorrow night in Chicago......

 

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Now who can argue with that? Not me. Who did you see? Hope it was a good show.
Steven Wilson, who used to front the amazing band Porcupine Tree about 10 years ago, and has been solo ever since. His latest album; Hand. Cannot. Erase., was played in its entirety, with a second half comprised of various solo and PT tunes. Awesome show - one of the top 5 that I've ever seen.
I have seen him a few times with Porcupine Tree and solo. He writes everything for surround sound, so I have all his disks in surround sound. I saw the Hand Cannot Erase tour last year and it was awesome. Seeing him tomorrow night in Chicago......
We don't agree on much, but we sure have similar musical taste!

You seeing Gilmour when he swings through Chicago?

I've got 2nd row center for his night at the Auditorium Theater - can't wait. This tour is probably his last for the US, given its been about 10 years since the "On An Island" tour. Hope I'm wrong there, but I didn't want to take that chance. And to see him in a small theater is an added bonus

 

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How do his comments square with the fact that we have nearly record low labor participation rates, record high food stamp usage that even the Washington Post calls "astonishing",


How much of this sentence is affected by the Baby Boomers retiring/leaving the workforce?

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lowest percentages of home ownership since the 60's


So much inventory was built during the subprime bubble that there's a ridiculous amount of empty houses. Does this statement take that into consideration? Because of the overbuilding, in just 10 short years (due to the rapidly aging population), there will be more single-family homes available than the number of people that can buy them regardless of their credit worthiness.

More people owning houses in general, is that a good thing or not?

 

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Now who can argue with that? Not me. Who did you see? Hope it was a good show.
Steven Wilson, who used to front the amazing band Porcupine Tree about 10 years ago, and has been solo ever since. His latest album; Hand. Cannot. Erase., was played in its entirety, with a second half comprised of various solo and PT tunes. Awesome show - one of the top 5 that I've ever seen.
I have seen him a few times with Porcupine Tree and solo. He writes everything for surround sound, so I have all his disks in surround sound. I saw the Hand Cannot Erase tour last year and it was awesome. Seeing him tomorrow night in Chicago......
We don't agree on much, but we sure have similar musical taste!

You seeing Gilmour when he swings through Chicago?

I've got 2nd row center for his night at the Auditorium Theater - can't wait. This tour is probably his last for the US, given its been about 10 years since the "On An Island" tour. Hope I'm wrong there, but I didn't want to take that chance. And to see him in a small theater is an added bonus



Bummer - Steven Wilson cancelled the show tonight due to a virus - said it affected him at the Beacon shows. He is still playing tomorrow night here, but I probably won't go - my ticket was for tonight.

Yes - I will be in the side balcony near the stage for the Gilmour Auditorium show - also have tickets to the Monday night United Center show I am trying to unload. Maybe you can buy me a drink at the show....

 

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How do his comments square with the fact that we have nearly record low labor participation rates, record high food stamp usage that even the Washington Post calls "astonishing",


How much of this sentence is affected by the Baby Boomers retiring/leaving the workforce?

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lowest percentages of home ownership since the 60's


So much inventory was built during the subprime bubble that there's a ridiculous amount of empty houses. Does this statement take that into consideration? Because of the overbuilding, in just 10 short years (due to the rapidly aging population), there will be more single-family homes available than the number of people that can buy them regardless of their credit worthiness.

More people owning houses in general, is that a good thing or not?
Good points Hawk, here's how I feel about both...

If the economy was as strong as the President would like to claim, Millennial's would be picking up those jobs from the retiring boomers. At least one would think. But their unemployment rate is something like 3% higher than the overall. I know from personal experience in my previous job, I'd see Millennials regularly come in for what were crummy, low-paying jobs. And even though they had nice degrees, most said they couldn't find work in their select fields.

As to home ownership, I don't believe the statistic measures by available dwellings. It's by percentage of the population who owns a home. So what does it say if there's more homes available, but the percentage who can afford to own is dropping? I get two things from that: a less wealthy population whose personal economy is not improving, and a housing market that's over-priced. We never really re-set prices fully from the last housing crash, and I've heard many statements about the potential for another bursting of that bubble.

 

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Now who can argue with that? Not me. Who did you see? Hope it was a good show.
Steven Wilson, who used to front the amazing band Porcupine Tree about 10 years ago, and has been solo ever since. His latest album; Hand. Cannot. Erase., was played in its entirety, with a second half comprised of various solo and PT tunes. Awesome show - one of the top 5 that I've ever seen.
I have seen him a few times with Porcupine Tree and solo. He writes everything for surround sound, so I have all his disks in surround sound. I saw the Hand Cannot Erase tour last year and it was awesome. Seeing him tomorrow night in Chicago......
We don't agree on much, but we sure have similar musical taste!

You seeing Gilmour when he swings through Chicago?

I've got 2nd row center for his night at the Auditorium Theater - can't wait. This tour is probably his last for the US, given its been about 10 years since the "On An Island" tour. Hope I'm wrong there, but I didn't want to take that chance. And to see him in a small theater is an added bonus
Bummer - Steven Wilson cancelled the show tonight due to a virus - said it affected him at the Beacon shows. He is still playing tomorrow night here, but I probably won't go - my ticket was for tonight.

Yes - I will be in the side balcony near the stage for the Gilmour Auditorium show - also have tickets to the Monday night United Center show I am trying to unload. Maybe you can buy me a drink at the show....
He only sang a few numbers for the Beacon show, but played strong. More than half the songs were handled by Ninet Tayeb, who sang on the last album. She was great, and the crowd rallied behind her. Sorry to hear that cancelled for your show. Sick or not, the band was great on Saturday.

Love to buy you a drink! I'm 2nd row, center section, on the right aisle (looking towards the stage). Never been to that venue - but it looks perfect for a show!

 

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