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  posted on 2/18/2016 at 12:45 PM
http://theweek.com/articles/603042/how-obama-totally-blew-marijuana-reform

 

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  posted on 2/19/2016 at 12:46 PM
http://www.vice.com/read/raphael-mechulam-father-cannabis-discover-thc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csbJnBKqwIw

http://www.thecannabist.co/2016/02/11/where-to-watch-rolling-papers-pot-jou rnalism-documentary/47974/

[Edited on 2/19/2016 by LeglizHemp]

[Edited on 2/19/2016 by LeglizHemp]

 

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  posted on 2/19/2016 at 01:31 PM
Too politically tenuous, won’t happen.


 

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  posted on 2/24/2016 at 07:09 PM
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Too politically tenuous, won’t happen.




That may have been the case just a few years ago, but similar to gay marriage, legalized and regulated marijuana use, cultivation, etc. is now supported by a majority of the American public. Thus making reform at the federal level far less tenuous. In fact, now popular!

Even more frustrating about the lack of Obama's effort on this issue, is that merely rescheduling at the federal level does nothing to interfere with states continuing with their current individual laws. In fact, it provides even MORE political cover for Obama since the states still determine what happens after rescheduling.

As he dithers, more citizens are put in jail, or continue to serve unjust prison terms, or lose their homes and other assets, their right to vote, etc....Most of them, minorities I might add.

Finally, for a president who's of late finally made minority prison reform an issue, one he claims repeatedly he'd like to address before he leaves office, he seems spineless on addressing one of the biggest excuses for incarcerating minorities. That is, possession and use of marijuana.

 

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  posted on 2/24/2016 at 07:36 PM
Plus it could be a huge win for the banks. There is a ton of money in the legalized States that never sees a bank.

 

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  posted on 2/24/2016 at 09:15 PM
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Plus it could be a huge win for the banks. There is a ton of money in the legalized States that never sees a bank.


The retail outlets take credit and debit cards now. Not sure if the deposits are safe or if that is all cash still.

 

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  posted on 2/24/2016 at 09:44 PM
from what i can tell, curing seizures in all kinds of people if the greatest benefit i have read about. for that reason alone something must be done. its insane that people are allowed to suffer when there is next to a miracle cure.

 

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  posted on 2/24/2016 at 09:59 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol

whats your NGO's position on this mule?

 

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  posted on 2/25/2016 at 12:26 AM
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Too politically tenuous, won’t happen.




That may have been the case just a few years ago, but similar to gay marriage, legalized and regulated marijuana use, cultivation, etc. is now supported by a majority of the American public. Thus making reform at the federal level far less tenuous. In fact, now popular!

Even more frustrating about the lack of Obama's effort on this issue, is that merely rescheduling at the federal level does nothing to interfere with states continuing with their current individual laws. In fact, it provides even MORE political cover for Obama since the states still determine what happens after rescheduling.

As he dithers, more citizens are put in jail, or continue to serve unjust prison terms, or lose their homes and other assets, their right to vote, etc....Most of them, minorities I might add.

Finally, for a president who's of late finally made minority prison reform an issue, one he claims repeatedly he'd like to address before he leaves office, he seems spineless on addressing one of the biggest excuses for incarcerating minorities. That is, possession and use of marijuana.


Very pertinent post and I agree with everything that you said here.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2016 at 03:49 PM
shrillary says we need more research.

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  posted on 2/25/2016 at 05:58 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol

whats your NGO's position on this mule?

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The misinformation campaign on this issue is rampant and wrong.

Medical weed is most certainly a viable option for those who suffer. No one can creditably argue against that point.

The problem is that the political aspect of allowing medical weed leads to cannabis retail shops which lead to homeless addicts who put a heavy burden of the taxpayers and the life deficit of those addicts.

Ask the citizens of Denver and the tax increases on the people.

This is the same problem as the doctors prescribing (handing out) opioids like they were candy and ignoring the heroin addiction that comes soon after.

Today's weed ani't your old $15 ounce of Mexican.


 

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  posted on 2/25/2016 at 06:35 PM
I think you are mis-informed about CBD Mule.

 

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As Legalhemp is suggesting, CBD is not the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana and in fact high CBD dominant strains are most effective for pain relief, seizure control, have anti-inflammatory properties, etc. as compared with high THC strains.....By the way, THC dominant strains have shown promise in the treatment of PTSD, however, as their psychoactive properties are in fact what allows for the "reprogramming" of traumatic memories via therapy while under the influence.

Such ideas are supported by decades long research in more progressive countries like Israel, Great Britain, Uruguay, The Netherlands, and others who are many, many years ahead of our medical research due to absurd restrictions at the federal level due to the schedule I status of marijuana.....

Which is yet another reason why Obama needs to change it....It would allow for significant research efforts and dollars to flow into the labs and research facilities all across this country. For all the talk of addressing PTSD, marijuana and psybocilin (sp) from mushrooms hold great promise for treating this debilitating disease yet the VA is shackled from pursuing this treatment due to, yet again, absurd scheduling of what is clearly a helpful and very benign drug of choice of millions of Americans....

Finally, no one denies that the strains available today are much stronger than those even a few decades ago. However, today's high THC strains are no more addictive than that sh*t swag weed from decades ago. The process by which marijuana interacts with the brain does not lead to addiction like opiates, or alcohol, or nicotine. About 10% of marijuana users can become physically and emotionally addicted. That's far, far less than the aforementioned substances. I would also add that the withdrawal is also far less difficult and is not life threatening like opiates or alcohol.

[Edited on 2/26/2016 by Chain]

 

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  posted on 2/25/2016 at 08:32 PM
yea that

 

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  posted on 2/26/2016 at 12:43 AM
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The problem is that the political aspect of allowing medical weed leads to cannabis retail shops which lead to homeless addicts who put a heavy burden of the taxpayers and the life deficit of those addicts.


This is exactly the kind of backwards logic that many of the misinformed in the anti-marijuana camp employ. As if it was difficult for anyone who wanted it to get their hands on marijuana before "cannabis retail shops" arose?

And I suppose you would prefer that anyone who wants marijuana go to a street dealer who might also offer them crack, meth and heroin?

[Edited on 2/26/2016 by robslob]

 

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Ask the citizens of Denver and the tax increases on the people.

Do you mean the tax increase that was voted on and approved by the voters of Denver in 2014? Or the increase in property tax bills caused by increasing home values that come with a booming economy and real estate market?

 

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Do you mean the tax increase that was voted on and approved by the voters of Denver in 2014? Or the increase in property tax bills caused by increasing home values that come with a booming economy and real estate market?

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No, I mean the tax increases on personal income, businesses and sales taxes being proposed by the State Legislature and supported by the Governor to meet the costs they are incurring as are result of the huge rise in homeless people and addicts.


 

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No, I mean the tax increases on personal income, businesses and sales taxes being proposed by the State Legislature and supported by the Governor to meet the costs they are incurring as are result of the huge rise in homeless people and addicts.


Would you care to back that up with some legitimate documented statistics rather than simply blow it out of your ass?

 

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  posted on 2/28/2016 at 10:22 AM
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_26216037/legal-pot-blamed-some-influx-hom eless-this-summer

 

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No, I mean the tax increases on personal income, businesses and sales taxes being proposed by the State Legislature and supported by the Governor to meet the costs they are incurring as are result of the huge rise in homeless people and addicts.


Would you care to back that up with some legitimate documented statistics rather than simply blow it out of your ass?


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You always could get up off your lazy a$$ and look it up for yourself. All legislation before the Colorado General Assembly is public.

I don't do research for people too incompetent or indolent to acquire basic information.


 

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You always could get up off your lazy a$$ and look it up for yourself.


Any fool would know that the burden of proof is on one who brings up a concept. Beside, I'm fresh OUT of troll food.

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http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_26216037/legal-pot-blamed-some-influx-hom eless-this-summer


The article basically is stating that people who are already homeless or need weed for a medical condition are attracted to Colorado because of easy access. That means that the homeless numbers in Denver may be up, but down in States that they came from. So the overall net effect is not an increase in homelessness. Yeah, I admit, Denver has to deal with it, though. But with the huge tax revenues related to marijuana, is that really much of an issue?

 

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  posted on 2/28/2016 at 08:29 PM
As I have been pointing out for years, politicians avoid the issue of cannabis in an election year like it was a turd on the sidewalk. Bernie mentioned it very briefly about a year ago - haven't heard any candidate from any party mention it at all.

At the very least, our current president should at least attempt some sort of reclassification or rescheduling on a NATIONAL level. If he can't offer absolute legalization (legal possession and sales in select markets or dispensaries) he should make it legal to POSSESS (however you obtained it) some quantity (2 ounces or less?) and to legally grow some number (6-10?) plants (per person) for personal use and consumption.

For years now, surveys have reflected that the PEOPLE support legalization.

FOR the people - BY the people ... what part of this is so friggin' hard to understand?

 

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  posted on 2/28/2016 at 09:58 PM
The People have been effectively silenced by Citizens United. As long as money is considered speech the vast majority of Americans might as well STFU.

 

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The People have been effectively silenced by Citizens United. As long as money is considered speech the vast majority of Americans might as well STFU.
Then please explain how the guy spending the least is winning the Republican primaries, while the guy who spent the most dropped out.

Money isn't everything.

But let's say that Citizen's United was reversed. Would you be ok with every entity that coordinates big money and directs it towards political ends to be restricted? The Teacher's Unions are the single biggest contributors, working to protect an archaic system of failure. They harm the country as much or more than any corporation. Would you be fine with limiting them as well?

BTW - on the list of big problems or important issues, rescheduling marijuana wouldn't even break the top 50. I get that its a personal issue for some, but wow, imagining it should be a Presidential priority is ludicrous.

 

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