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  posted on 1/31/2016 at 11:44 AM
The Iowa Caucuses

We have heard the speeches, seen the polls, watched the debates (the GOP debates anyway, the democrats in an effort to help Hillary held their debates when few were watching), heard the TV talking heads and the pundits. Everyone has expressed their opinions but now we will hear from the voters.

Will the result on Monday nights voting be as you have been told?

The “winners” will not be only the top vote getters but also the political parties who can muster the most people to actually vote.

History tells us that one of the below will be our next President… or not.






[Edited on 1/31/2016 by Muleman1994]

 
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  posted on 1/31/2016 at 03:14 PM
Shockingly, the Democrats and Republicans operate their caucuses differently:

How the Iowa Democratic and Republican caucuses work
Published January 29, 2016 - FoxNews.com

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/29/how-iowa-democratic-and-republic an-caucuses-work.html?intcmp=hpbt1



 

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  posted on 1/31/2016 at 03:32 PM
I heard that weather will be a factor. Unlike New York where people can vote anywhere from
6 am - 9 pm, in Iowa they have to vote from 7 pm - 9 pm, so if the weather is bad, some of them may not come out, also a lot of people are just tired after work and do not want to wait on voter lines.

 

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I understand that one of the Democrats is a Socialist and the other likely a criminal. So why am I more afraid of the Republican candidates?

 

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  posted on 1/31/2016 at 08:13 PM
I understand that one of the Democrats is a Socialist and the other likely a criminal. So why am I more afraid of the Republican candidates?

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Because the left-wing media told you how to think?

 

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I understand that one of the Democrats is a Socialist and the other likely a criminal. So why am I more afraid of the Republican candidates?

Because the left-wing media told you how to think?

Yeah, that's gotta be it.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2016 at 09:27 PM





[Edited on 2/2/2016 by Muleman1994]

 

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  posted on 2/1/2016 at 09:47 PM
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Shockingly, the Democrats and Republicans operate their caucuses differently:

How the Iowa Democratic and Republican caucuses work
Published January 29, 2016 - FoxNews.com

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/29/how-iowa-democratic-and-republic an-caucuses-work.html?intcmp=hpbt1




Does "winner take all" as far as delegates go, or does each precinct elect their own delegate?

 

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  posted on 2/1/2016 at 10:43 PM
Listening to Rubio, waiting for Trump to speak his observations.

 

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Shockingly, the Democrats and Republicans operate their caucuses differently:

How the Iowa Democratic and Republican caucuses work
Published January 29, 2016 - FoxNews.com

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/29/how-iowa-democratic-and-republic an-caucuses-work.html?intcmp=hpbt1




Does "winner take all" as far as delegates go, or does each precinct elect their own delegate?

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You would think your question to be easily answered but NO!

GOP:

The total base number of delegates allocated to each of the 50 U.S. states is 10 at-large delegates, plus 3 delegates per congressional district.

Dems:

The Democratic Party uses pledged delegates and super-delegates. Good luck determining the actual number. A basic search will give you varying numbers.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2016 at 10:49 PM
With almost all caucuses counted:

GOP: Ted Cruz beats Trump handily with Marco Rubio close behind; massive turnout.

Dems: Hillary Clinton barely edges Bernie Sanders, weak turnout.
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Who will be the first one in the morning, still in their jammies, to run to the TV cameras and exclaim:

“As I have said from the very beginning my candidacy will burst forth onto the national stage in New Hampshire!”



 

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  posted on 2/1/2016 at 10:54 PM
Finally got through to a website about the Iowa Caucuses, Iowa does not have a "winner take all" rule. Delegates go by percentage of votes cast per district. At least that's what I get out of the website.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2016 at 10:55 PM
Man, that was the shortest speech I've ever heard Trump give.

 

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  posted on 2/2/2016 at 06:31 AM
Iowa stays true to supporting fringe candidates - Santorum, Huckabee, and now Cruz..

On the plus side the word evangelical can be shelved for 4 more years.

 

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On the plus side the word evangelical can be shelved for 4 more years.

Not quite. We have SC in a couple weeks and the rest of the Bible Belt in March.

 

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  posted on 2/2/2016 at 08:42 AM
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On the plus side the word evangelical can be shelved for 4 more years.

Not quite. We have SC in a couple weeks and the rest of the Bible Belt in March.


trump better find more bibles with his mom's signature in them.

 

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I think Trump's toast. The thing about his bigoted, hate filled supporters is that they are so loud they think they are the only voice in the room. There are a lot of voices in America. Trump never offered any substance. His Mexican wall rhetoric turned him into a caricature, a cartoon. In the end, instead of a ringmaster, he will be revealed a clown.

It was fun and entertaining while it lasted. The flame out should be entertaining as well.

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  posted on 2/2/2016 at 09:27 AM
Best news out of Iowa is Rubio is not dead; like him or not he is not Darth Vader like (ie: Cruz or Trump)
 

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Best news out of Iowa is Rubio is not dead; like him or not he is not Darth Vader like (ie: Cruz or Trump)

Agree, and am pleasantly surprised by the strength of his showing.

 

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I think Trump's toast. The thing about his bigoted, hate filled supporters is that they are so loud they think they are the only voice in the room. There are a lot of voices in America. Trump never offered any substance. His Mexican wall rhetoric turned him into a caricature, a cartoon. In the end, instead of a ringmaster, he will be revealed a clown.

It was fun and entertaining while it lasted. The flame out should be entertaining as well.



I realize you are excited for that to happen, but let's temper our emotions a bit.

Trump is crushing everyone else in the polls in New Hampshire. Entirely different set of voters there. I think his backing out of that last debate hurt him, methinks he misunderestimated how fickle voters are down to the last second.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_rep ublican_presidential_primary-3350.html

The last three GOP winners in Iowa are...2016-Ted Cruz, 2012-Rick Santorum and 2008-Mike Huckabee.

 

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Record setting turnout for The Republicans in Iowa. Democrats turnout was pathetic.

Even better, Hillary Clinton is cheating already.

Hillary Clinton campaign accused of voter fraud in Polk County, Iowa

http://www.examiner.com/article/hillary-clinton-campaign-accused-of-voter-f raud-polk-county-iowa


 

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I realize you are excited for that to happen, but let's temper our emotions a bit.

Trump is crushing everyone else in the polls in New Hampshire. Entirely different set of voters there. I think his backing out of that last debate hurt him, methinks he misunderestimated how fickle voters are down to the last second.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_rep ublican_presidential_primary-3350.html

The last three GOP winners in Iowa are...2016-Ted Cruz, 2012-Rick Santorum and 2008-Mike Huckabee.


All you say is true Hawk. Plus, a caucus is far different than a vote. I caucused in Iowa when Obama ran for the first time. It took hours on a cold night. The walk home was brutal. The whole system seems archaic and I don't believe it represents the population.

 

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I think Trump's toast. The thing about his bigoted, hate filled supporters is that they are so loud they think they are the only voice in the room. There are a lot of voices in America. Trump never offered any substance. His Mexican wall rhetoric turned him into a caricature, a cartoon. In the end, instead of a ringmaster, he will be revealed a clown.

It was fun and entertaining while it lasted. The flame out should be entertaining as well.



I realize you are excited for that to happen, but let's temper our emotions a bit.

Trump is crushing everyone else in the polls in New Hampshire. Entirely different set of voters there. I think his backing out of that last debate hurt him, methinks he misunderestimated how fickle voters are down to the last second.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_rep ublican_presidential_primary-3350.html

The last three GOP winners in Iowa are...2016-Ted Cruz, 2012-Rick Santorum and 2008-Mike Huckabee.

Good points.


Ouch, that hurt!

 

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  posted on 2/2/2016 at 11:26 AM
Cruz won 28% of 32% of 19% of 1% of the country. 0.016% of the country as a whole. (H/T FiveThirtyEight)

So that's something.

 

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Cruz won 28% of 32% of 19% of 1% of the country. 0.016% of the country as a whole. (H/T FiveThirtyEight)

So that's something.

That is amusing. I think the only information to be gleaned from the caucuses are whether or not candidates exceeded or fell short of expectations. Cruz clearly exceeded while trump got a little wind knocked out of his sails. I'd say Rubio somewhat exceeded expectations. On the Democratic side it was too close to call going in so the results are about as expected, although if you told anyone 6 months ago that Bernie would tie Hillary in Iowa they'd say you were crazy.

 

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