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  posted on 4/11/2015 at 09:30 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/anti-vaxx-mom-abandons-movement-after-al l-seven-her-of-her-kids-get-whooping-cough/

Ohhh..........vaccinations are evil, are they?

 

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  posted on 4/11/2015 at 11:37 AM
Some vaccines have the potential to cause other side effects and/or diseases. Whooping cough is bad, they can give codeine cough syrup like Phenergan with Codeine to help suppress it. After everything discovered/disclosed on those swine flu vaccines, I will not get one. There is a natural way to destroy the H1N1 flu, oil of Oregano kills it in invitro (in the test tube) as well as in people. It does not do anything terrible to you. It has antihistaminic, anti-mycotic, etc. properties.

God created the earth, everything you need to cure disease is right here. You just have to look.

As for diseases, I got all my vaccines as a child, and still I got Rubella, mumps, scarlet fever. The one flu vaccine I got in the late 1980's demanded by my job gave me bronchial spasms and malaise. (allergy reaction to the albumin in the vaccine). I'll use God's meds.

Even now, if you are starting to get sick, boost your immunity get some Grapefruit seed extract. If you are real bad off, take 2 tablets three times a day, if you are just starting to get sick, 1 tablet 2-3X day will probably handle it, and you should increase your Vitamin regimen to:
100 mgs. B Complex,
1,500-3,000 mgs. Vit. C,
100 mgs. Zinc for ONE WEEK.

Then cut back the B Complex to not more than 50 mgs. day,
the Zinc cut back to 50 mgs. day. Vitamin C should be buffered, if the store is all out of the buffered type, get the regular and supplement it with some Tums, which will buffer it. Seltzer water will also help buffer it. With Vitamin C the correct dose (according to Linus Pauling) is the amount you can take that does NOT cause diarrhea (for me that is 1500 mgs). Normally I take 750-1,000 mgs. day.

Lemon breaks up mucus and gets it out of your body.

Garlic is anti-bacterial.

Wild Oregano oil MUST BE FROM THE MEDITERRANEAN. It grows in Spain, North American Herb Co. sells it, some of the vitamin stores have their own version, which is probably good too. It will clean any and all crap/bacteria even viral out of your body. It does have a laxative effect so don't Overdo it.

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It you are getting sick, eat protein, meat, fish, turkey, vegetables, fruit, broth. Keep the refined foods to a minimum, anything with yeast in it will make you worse.

The woman whose kids are all sick, they must have poor immunity. Give yourself the best edge you can, eat healthy. If you can drink alcohol a little of that will probably kill some bacteria too. Take care of you don't rely on the govt. to do it. God put everything here you need, look around.



[Edited on 4/11/2015 by gina]

 

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  posted on 4/11/2015 at 12:59 PM
Sorry Gina, not buying it. And I have NOTHING at all against natural remedies, in fact I think there's a lot to them.

I also think that anyone who discounts the importance of Western Medicine is being foolhardy.

 

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  posted on 4/11/2015 at 01:14 PM
I don't say totally boycott all western medicine. Sometimes there are needs for it, if someone is in severe distress with illness that can be life threatening, yes they should go to a hospital and get intravenous medication; but for smaller things, many times the body can heal itself. I had dental work done recently (root canal) it was really bad. I took anti-inflammatories, because the condition required it, the pain went all the way up to my eye socket. An ice bag was not going to take care of that.

The problem we have in this country is every time somebody gets a cold, many of them want antibiotics, which creates anti-biotic resistance. The body will try to heal itself, sometimes it needs help. With fevers if you let your body burn out what is ailing it, it will heal itself. BUT if the fever goes above 102, you HAVE to go to a hospital or you can get seizures and brain damage. That would be foolish not go use western medicine then. I am not opposed to getting diagnostics done to find out if you have something serious or something that will resolve itself. Just try to let your body heal itself and help it along.

 

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  posted on 4/11/2015 at 01:14 PM
Kind of like the people who refuse to leave their beach houses before a storm; then it costs society a ton of money and risk to other people.
 

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  posted on 4/11/2015 at 04:46 PM
Mandatory forced vaccinations is the answer. Give the babies as many as they can before 18 months old, pincushion style, and if the parents don't like it, let Child Protective Services take the kid, no questions asked. Good for everyone, and a windfall for Big Pharma too, which translates into a better economy.

Pretty funny though, we had a whooping cough outbreak here, shut down the school,and every single kid who got it was vaccinated. Not one non-vaccinated kid got it. So there are exceptions to every rule.


 

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Mandatory forced vaccinations is the answer. Give the babies as many as they can before 18 months old, pincushion style, and if the parents don't like it, let Child Protective Services take the kid, no questions asked. Good for everyone, and a windfall for Big Pharma too, which translates into a better economy.

Pretty funny though, we had a whooping cough outbreak here, shut down the school,and every single kid who got it was vaccinated. Not one non-vaccinated kid got it. So there are exceptions to every rule.




So you would mandate forced vaccinations, even before it's determined if the child could be allergic to the contents. What ever happened to choice, or do you prefer a nanny state?

 

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Kids that don't get vaccinated shouldn't be allowed to go to public schools or any schools to put other people at risk. Don't want to vaccinate your kids? Then pay for their home schooling on your own dime.

 

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Kids that don't get vaccinated shouldn't be allowed to go to public schools or any schools to put other people at risk. Don't want to vaccinate your kids? Then pay for their home schooling on your own dime.


I believe that is how it is now at least in New York. I can't speak for the lunatic state on the West Coast.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2015 at 12:35 PM
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Kids that don't get vaccinated shouldn't be allowed to go to public schools or any schools to put other people at risk. Don't want to vaccinate your kids? Then pay for their home schooling on your own dime.


Yeah, for sure. Wouldn't want my vaccinated kid to catch something from a non-vaccinated kid. Wait a minute, how come my vaccinated kid is at risk from a non-vaccinated kid. Oh, that's right "Herd Immunity". MOOOOOOO.

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If the schools are so concerned about health then why do they serve megadoses of sugar in their food? And dead processed food in general. If they started focusing on decent nutrition there would be a lot less sick kids than if they did away with vaccines altogether!

Fact is more kids are sick from obesity, juvenile diabetes, and sugar-crippled immune systems than they are from not being vaccinated.



 

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Kids that don't get vaccinated shouldn't be allowed to go to public schools or any schools to put other people at risk. Don't want to vaccinate your kids? Then pay for their home schooling on your own dime.


So if a child has an allergy to eggs, would you stop them from going to school?
What if they have an allergy to various drugs used in the vaccines?
What if the child is a hemophiliac and can't take shots?
Would you deny the child an education if they had AIDS?
Would you deny a child an education because the vaccines would be against their religious beliefs?
Would you deny a child an education based on your beliefs?

 

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  posted on 4/13/2015 at 06:58 PM
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Fact is more kids are sick from obesity, juvenile diabetes, and sugar-crippled immune systems than they are from not being vaccinated.


Agreed 100%. Obesity is one of the biggest health issues in our society. I wish this would be #1 priority in schools and adulthood.

 

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Kids that don't get vaccinated shouldn't be allowed to go to public schools or any schools to put other people at risk. Don't want to vaccinate your kids? Then pay for their home schooling on your own dime.


Yeah, for sure. Wouldn't want my vaccinated kid to catch something from a non-vaccinated kid. Wait a minute, how come my vaccinated kid is at risk from a non-vaccinated kid. Oh, that's right "Herd Immunity". MOOOOOOO.

"Don't try to understand em just rope em up and brand em...RAWHIIIIDE!!!!"

If the schools are so concerned about health then why do they serve megadoses of sugar in their food? And dead processed food in general. If they started focusing on decent nutrition there would be a lot less sick kids than if they did away with vaccines altogether!

Fact is more kids are sick from obesity, juvenile diabetes, and sugar-crippled immune systems than they are from not being vaccinated.





How absurd.

 

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Care to elaborate, or just snipe from the clock tower? So I am to understand that you think that vaccines are more important than preventive medicine and nutrition?

 

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What i meant above and I didn't explain it properly is that unvaccinated children should be kept out of school during any kind of breakout like the recent measles, mumps, and whooping cough breakouts they have had around the country. They are the ones put at risk by their parent's decision.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2015 at 09:04 PM
No need to qualify , this is an important national health debate, and all aspects of the issue are worth some thought. we need to tread carefully or we could end up with a medical social engineering disease worse than any bug. When we start pointing fingers at people's health choices and accusing them of robbing the treasury, next thing you know every medical detail will be regulated, not just vaccinations.
 

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Care to elaborate, or just snipe from the clock tower? So I am to understand that you think that vaccines are more important than preventive medicine and nutrition?


The reason for what you describe is the positive outcome of mass vaccinations. Have you ever heard of Small Pox or Polio? These killers have been erradicated due to mass mandatory vaccinations and herd immunity. That good enough for you?

 

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  posted on 4/15/2015 at 03:08 PM
Well, smallpox was a success. Polio is still out there, not in the USA apparently. These victories were accomplished without mandatory vaccination programs. The diseases considered possible to eradicate at this point are measles, mumps, and rubella, and a couple others which are not on the current vaccine roster, so no point in looking up the names. Measles, mumps, and rubella are not the scariest bugs out there anyway. Probably can't hurt to get the MMR shot, once you are out of infancy and your immune system has had a chance to develop. Vaccines are not given to people with compromised immune systems, and it seems to me that anything developing is by definition compromised. If a parent elects to postpone vaccinations until their kid gets bigger, that is a sound choice.

And if they elect to not vaccinate, that is their choice. Vaccination should not be mandatory. There are plenty of health choices people make that may or may not be wise, and could affect society, such as a choice to smoke or drink alcohol, or be obese, and that jacks up insurance rates for all of us. My point was that a choice by parents and schools to "strengthen the herd" via healthy diet and exercise would result in a healthier population than by serving the kids corndogs, burgers, sodapop and xbox, with a side of vaccinations. Vaccinations should be viewed as an adjunct to a healthy lifestyle, not as some kind of magic bullet that will keep the kids well, while encouraging destructive habits.

 

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What i meant above and I didn't explain it properly is that unvaccinated children should be kept out of school during any kind of breakout like the recent measles, mumps, and whooping cough breakouts they have had around the country. They are the ones put at risk by their parent's decision.


But there are too many vaccinations required these days and many kids are getting side effects. I know you don't want to hear about Waziristan, but in Pakistan they don't want their kids vaccinated because they have seen bad side effects from the kids who were vaccinated. They were getting paralyzed. That's not a minor thing. Here kids are vaccinated with so many vaccines, their bodies are more used to it.

But another question looms, why do kids today need so many more vaccines than we did when we were young? We turned out okay, why do they need so many more vaccines? We are not a third world country. I saw a co-worker who got a swine flu vaccine develop Bells Palsy afterward. Something is not right with some of these vaccines.

[Edited on 4/16/2015 by gina]

 

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Good points, Gina. Seems to me everyone has varying opinions, which they are all certainly entitled to. What this thread boils down to is not a pro or anti vaccine issue, which is not as black and white as some may believe. I personally think that just like any decisions you make in child raising that there are varying factors and calculated risks. For the record, I am not "anti vaccine".

The big question here is definitely black and white, a yes or no matter, and that is whether you support mandatory vaccination or not. I do not support mandatory vaccination.

 

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Good points, Gina. Seems to me everyone has varying opinions, which they are all certainly entitled to. What this thread boils down to is not a pro or anti vaccine issue, which is not as black and white as some may believe. I personally think that just like any decisions you make in child raising that there are varying factors and calculated risks. For the record, I am not "anti vaccine".

The big question here is definitely black and white, a yes or no matter, and that is whether you support mandatory vaccination or not. I do not support mandatory vaccination.

I support them, based on the scientific evidence that I am aware of. There are lots of people who believe that vaccinations are causing significant side effects including autism, but there is little if any independent scientific data to support those theories.

 

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  posted on 4/18/2015 at 01:23 PM
http://www.antivaccinebodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html

Or if you'd like a funnier explanation- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hudar4mLKI

 

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