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  posted on 11/18/2014 at 01:07 AM
I'd have to list;

'the Rolling Stones' with most tickets at $350 and the lazy guitarplaying of both Woody & Keith (whom I luv) thru most of the show & the fact Jaggers voice has not gotten any better in the last 50 years.

Bob Dylan has legions of fans who go to see him because he is Bob Dylan & ignore everything else.

Any Supergroup who now wear any form of spandex should be avoided at all costs & have destroyed any previous credibility they may have had !! Perhaps these can be listed by others so as to warn potential concert goers ahead of time. (I never saw any of the 'original Skynyrd' wear that)

Any bands of former glory who have to tell their audience 'no less than' 20 times a show to "Make some Noise" or "Comn' Clap your Fn Hands".


I think it is the duty of every serious concert lover to "warn" the rest of us of those shows that are dangerous to our self esteem,hearing,eyesight or general well being to see!

The spandex think is particularly damaging (see Iron Maiden) ,& I think we should all be warned of those. I mean imagine..Greg,or Derek, walking out in spandex & then playing the opening verse of 'Stateboro Blues' or 'Done Somebody Wrong'.





[Edited on 11/19/2014 by bettyhynes]

 
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  posted on 11/18/2014 at 01:23 AM
Can't be worse than this get-up on the singer/organ player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coPerDDRi7c

 

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  posted on 11/18/2014 at 01:42 AM
haha ha and then he eventually came back to his senses again. (actually Doyle Bramhal had a similar shirt on the R Waters tour,sorry to say)

whats with Chers Hair anyway

[Edited on 11/19/2014 by bettyhynes]

 

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  posted on 11/18/2014 at 05:14 AM
I am one of those Dylan fans. However, without good seats and a good venue I'm not going. Still I hope to catch another half dozen or so Dylan shows in my time.

I caught Steve Miller at Wolftrap two Summer's ago. I found the whole act to be "canned".

 

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  posted on 11/18/2014 at 06:09 AM
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Bob Dylan has legions of fans who go to see him because he is Bob Dylan & ignore everything else.



Kind of like the ABB fans on this site?

 

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  posted on 11/18/2014 at 07:59 AM
at least he doesn't wear spandex while he's just 'standing there' slurring his words,or preaching to the crowd or with his back to the audience. I once watched his whole show with his back to the audience (but was smart & bought tickets behind the stage that time)

At least the Allman Brothers still play like it was 1969 most nights.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2014 at 10:45 AM
Because the songs were written in 1969, makes it easier.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2014 at 12:14 PM
Nobody should have to "hang it up" until they can't sell tickets anymore, and even then if they want to play in the park or someone's backyard, more power to them.

Hardly anyone actually pays for recorded music anymore so live shows got incredibly expensive. So it goes.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2014 at 02:33 PM
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Nobody should have to "hang it up" until they can't sell tickets anymore, and even then if they want to play in the park or someone's backyard, more power to them.

Hardly anyone actually pays for recorded music anymore so live shows got incredibly expensive. So it goes.


Totally agree BHawk! I saw the Stones 3X this past tour and while their shows have some rough spots the shows are still highly entertaining. Now I do agree their tickets are obscenely priced but then again for the 2 Boston shows I attended I was able to get $85 "mystery" tickets they offered but they still sell out even at the inflated prices so why pack it in?

 

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  posted on 11/18/2014 at 08:02 PM
Really,wow,I guess..if people are still willing to shell out & fill shows.The Stones tour in '71 was incredible doing all Let it Bleed & Sticky Fingers but shows later didn't come close...but I know some just repetitively see the same band over & over despite all...like the Dead.( I think some may even go see bands repetitively just to treat it like a 'badge or status of times seen' sorry to say)

At this stage I just look for those 'special' shows of 'whomever' & walk out of those who don't care or deliver.I just thought it was a good caption after someone warned about CSN who I never saw & know were highpriced.


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  posted on 11/18/2014 at 08:26 PM
I won't pay to see Bob Dylan again.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2014 at 09:20 PM
I don't know about hanging it up .... and I really love their music forever... And I would like to have seen all of these shows....but these prices are out of whack!


Eagles over $150, & up
Fleetwood Mac over $150.
Bob Seger over $140.
Stevie Wonder over $140.
Bob Dylan over $130.
Rolling Stones over $150. & up
Tom Petty over $140.
The Who over $140.
Paul McCartney over $200 & up

 

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  posted on 11/18/2014 at 09:32 PM
ill never pay that kind of money to see anyone.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2014 at 09:59 PM
Yeah, I pretty much go to see Dylan for the same reasons that people flock to see the pope. At least Bob plays an instrument and tries to sing!

But really, it's not a question of whether the perfomer is as good as he was in 1971, but rather what are you doing that night that's better than seeing the show? Anyone can rest on his concert-going laurels while sitting around waiting to die.

 

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Yeah, I pretty much go to see Dylan for the same reasons that people flock to see the pope. At least Bob plays an instrument and tries to sing!

But really, it's not a question of whether the perfomer is as good as he was in 1971, but rather what are you doing that night that's better than seeing the show? Anyone can rest on his concert-going laurels while sitting around waiting to die.



Thank you Brock. I feel the same way.

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  posted on 11/19/2014 at 07:02 AM
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Nobody should have to "hang it up" until they can't sell tickets anymore, and even then if they want to play in the park or someone's backyard, more power to them.

Hardly anyone actually pays for recorded music anymore so live shows got incredibly expensive. So it goes.



Totally agree with you Hawk. I don't understand the sentiment about old rock bands needing to hang it up. As a Chicago resident and longtime blues fan, I have seen so many blues greats that were in their 80s and 90s and people seem to champion them for their longevity and wax nostalgic about them. Why should it be any different for rock artists?

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  posted on 11/19/2014 at 07:11 AM
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Really,wow,I guess..if people are still willing to shell out & fill shows.



Exactly. Economics 101: Supply & Demand. Actually that should be reversed. It should be Demand & Supply. If there's a demand for something, well somebody will likely supply it.

If you don't want to support a band, well then don't. While some of these bands are IMHO charging crazy prices, they wouldn't if they couldn't.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2014 at 07:34 AM
My concert attendence(as far as national acts) has dropped off significantly
over the last 5-10yrs I would say, due to the fact of ticket prices.
It's out of hand. When we go to shows, it's local/regional/indie
artists/ acts who fly under the radar. I cant justify paying the ticket prices
any more. People can spend their money anyway the want, but the only
way to combat this is to hit the industry in the pocket book. As long people
keep feeding into these prices it wont stop. Just dont buy. I love going to
concert and seeing live music ,but it's out of hand.

 

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Really,wow,I guess..if people are still willing to shell out & fill shows.



Exactly. Economics 101: Supply & Demand. Actually that should be reversed. It should be Demand & Supply. If there's a demand for something, well somebody will likely supply it.

If you don't want to support a band, well then don't. While some of these bands are IMHO charging crazy prices, they wouldn't if they couldn't.


Exactly! The Stones are perfect examples of this.

When I saw the Stones in Boston this past year the cheapest regular priced tickets were $150.00 for the worst nose bleeds with front of the stage "pit" tickets going for $2500.00. I always had floor seats for previous tours and never paid more than $150.00 for them so I said screw it and figured it would be the first Stones tour I would miss my first back in 1975 as I refused to pay $600-1200.00 for floor seats this time around.

The band took a lot of heat for the prices so they offered a limited number of tickets, supposedly around 1000 tickets a show where they offered them, at $85.00 but you would not know where you were sitting until show time.

I thought that was a good deal so I managed to score the $85.00 tickets for both Boston shows and ended up with great seats in the lower bowl of the new Boston Garden for both shows. These were the same seats that were selling for $600.00 so I got lucky but they still sold out both shows even with people paying anywhere from $250-2500.00 for tickets.

I agree ticket prices for big name bands are out of control but touring is where the money is as the bands make little to no money off of new music with all the illegal downloading so I do not begrudge them getting what they can. As Lee stated if fans were not willing to pay the crazy prices the bands would not charge them.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2014 at 11:05 AM
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Eagles over $150, & up
Fleetwood Mac over $150.
Bob Seger over $140.
Stevie Wonder over $140.
Bob Dylan over $130.
Rolling Stones over $150. & up
Tom Petty over $140.
The Who over $140.
Paul McCartney over $200 & up


Well, living in the pacific northwest, I usually go to the show and get in for a lot less than cost, as there are almost always tickets available. Case in point, I paid $20 to see Tom Petty this past summer when he came through. Now for the above, Fleetwood Mac, Seger, Eagles, Petty are not worth that. Stevie Wonder, who is doing the whole Songs In the Key of Life album is worth it. The Stones and the Who and McCartney are living legends who still actually put on a great show and it's worth it.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2014 at 12:02 PM
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I don't know about hanging it up .... and I really love their music forever... And I would like to have seen all of these shows....but these prices are out of whack!


Eagles over $150, & up
Fleetwood Mac over $150.
Bob Seger over $140.
Stevie Wonder over $140.
Bob Dylan over $130.
Rolling Stones over $150. & up
Tom Petty over $140.
The Who over $140.
Paul McCartney over $200 & up



I saw nearly all of these acts several times at much lower prices ... and before they started wearing adult diapers.

Of the folks on this list, it seems only Tom Petty and Bob are still making new music. All of these guys are banking on their rich history to draw fans to shows. I'd imagine that most all on this list have made quite a lot of money over their long careers.

Kind of sad that most grew up in the "peace and love-share what ya got-non-materialistic" era, yet now charge an amount equal to a car payment or health insurance premium for a decent seat. Out of hero-worship or adoration, we dare not call this a cash-grab or anything. Maybe some are going out there one last time (Pete? Roger?) for one last grab for gusto (and dinero).

Yeah, it's all about supply and demand - if you don't want to ante up - don't go and all that.

 

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I don't know about hanging it up .... and I really love their music forever... And I would like to have seen all of these shows....but these prices are out of whack!


Eagles over $150, & up
Fleetwood Mac over $150.
Bob Seger over $140.
Stevie Wonder over $140.
Bob Dylan over $130.
Rolling Stones over $150. & up
Tom Petty over $140.
The Who over $140.
Paul McCartney over $200 & up



I saw nearly all of these acts several times at much lower prices ... and before they started wearing adult diapers.

Of the folks on this list, it seems only Tom Petty and Bob are still making new music. All of these guys are banking on their rich history to draw fans to shows. I'd imagine that most all on this list have made quite a lot of money over their long careers.

Kind of sad that most grew up in the "peace and love-share what ya got-non-materialistic" era, yet now charge an amount equal to a car payment or health insurance premium for a decent seat. Out of hero-worship or adoration, we dare not call this a cash-grab or anything. Maybe some are going out there one last time (Pete? Roger?) for one last grab for gusto (and dinero).

Yeah, it's all about supply and demand - if you don't want to ante up - don't go and all that.


Of course it is cash grab as most of these rockers are well passed their expiration date but as has been said the best way to protest is not buy their expensive tickets.

Concerts are a luxury item not a necessity of life. Besides nobody is holding a gun to our heads to buy the tickets.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2014 at 12:31 PM
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I don't know about hanging it up .... and I really love their music forever... And I would like to have seen all of these shows....but these prices are out of whack!


Eagles over $150, & up
Fleetwood Mac over $150.
Bob Seger over $140.
Stevie Wonder over $140.
Bob Dylan over $130.
Rolling Stones over $150. & up
Tom Petty over $140.
The Who over $140.
Paul McCartney over $200 & up



You left out the Allman Brothers Band at $200. At least so far, they are the one band other than Led Zep who has hung it up.

I just saw Stevie Wonder two weeks ago doing the Songs in the Key of Life performance, and agree with amyjared that although expensive it was worth it. Stevie is definitely performing at a high level, hardly ever tours, and always puts on a great show.

I could care less about seeing the Eagles, Tom Petty, The Two or Bob Seger at any price.

I have not checked prices but would bet there are lots of pop performers, boy bands, hip-hoppers and others charging at least as much as the bands above, for canned and sometimes lip-synced shows.

If people pay the price, it's worth it.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2014 at 12:56 PM
Alan - if people pay the price and enjoy it - it's worth it!

I've paid high dollar for a few shows that I should have been entitled to a refund on. Saw a few at clubs and smaller halls - at low dollar where I felt like sending 'em an additional check afterwards!

 

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  posted on 11/19/2014 at 12:58 PM
It is a mixed bag for me at this point. I average going to one show a week which are mostly in clubs ranging from 10 bucks to 35 bucks a ticket without surcharge and that is in NYC. Then there are the shows like the Allman Brothers where I spent 250 on stubhub to see them the next to last night or Pearl Jam where I paid to see 100 bucks to see them in Milwaukee. I al paid to see 100 bucks to see Bruce in Fort Lauderdale earlier this year.

Having just retired, I have been hopping around the country to see bands in cities that I enjoy visiting. I splurged 400 bucks for the Christmas Jam which is for a VIP ticket which I think is worth it and I just returned from Atlanta for the Lynyrd Skynyrd tribute. So what is my limit? That is a relative question. I refuse to pay 145 bucks for anything less than the best ticket (first 10 rows or best loges) to see Bob Seger and J. Geils at MSG. And the reality is they will not be as good as they were years ago and I am saying that as a diehard Geils fan as in their prime in the 70's they were the best live band I ever saw next to Bruce during the Darkness and River tours. I saw J. Geils in Atlantic City two years ago and while they were very good, it is not comparable.

My wife and I saw Santana in Atlantic City in June where tickets were 125 bucks and the show was terrific. We also stayed for the weekend and had a terrific time. So what am I saying? If you have the disposable income to spend and it does not hurt you or yours to spend the money and you have a great time, it is not anyone business.

One last thing-I hate shed shows and rarely go. I rather spend the money to see the band in an arena even if it is more. Just one man's opinion.

 
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