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  posted on 7/10/2014 at 08:07 AM
Took my Gibson 335 (it's about 8 years old) to my guitar tech because it wasn't playing, sounding or feeling right. He had done set-ups on it in the past. When I went the other day he told me to get rid of it and look for another one because the truss rod was as tight as it would go. He said he wasn't comfortable trying to tighten it anymore because he was afraid it would snap..
I was wondering if anyone out there has had a similar issue. thanks

 

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  posted on 7/10/2014 at 08:25 AM
I would try finding a stronger truss rod first.
 

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  posted on 7/10/2014 at 08:47 AM
I'd get a second opinion before you go dumping it. You may be in need of a neck reset, which is much cheaper than a new guitar or you may need to have the trust rod itself modified. By that I mean the tech would need to use one of these tools to create more space for the truss rod to function. http://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Essential_Tool_Kits/Truss_Rod_Rescue_K it.html
The issue may be as simple as an issue of environment and the humidity in your house is causing some neck warpage. How is the instrument stored when you're not playing it? Also what area of the country do you live in?

 

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I'd get a second opinion before you go dumping it. You may be in need of a neck reset, which is much cheaper than a new guitar or you may need to have the trust rod itself modified. By that I mean the tech would need to use one of these tools to create more space for the truss rod to function. http://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Essential_Tool_Kits/Truss_Rod_Rescue_K it.html
The issue may be as simple as an issue of environment and the humidity in your house is causing some neck warpage. How is the instrument stored when you're not playing it? Also what area of the country do you live in?



thanks for the help ....I bought it used, I think it's a 2002. The guitar tech I bring it too is well known and respected where I live in Ocean County NJ (though sometimes that doesn't mean anything). He had worked on the guitar before, and when he opened the truss rod cover said right away that "oh I worked on this before" and when he tried to tighted it he was concerned about snapping the truss rod because it was as tight as it would go and didn't want to force it. I told him to do whatever he needed to do to make it right, but he said it would cost a lot of cash and I'd be better trading it in at Guitar Center for another one. I keep it in the case when I'm not plaiying it.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2014 at 09:58 AM
If you really love that 335 and will miss it dearly, call Gibson just to see what they say. It might be cost effective to have tehm fix it.
 

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  posted on 7/10/2014 at 10:32 AM
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I'd get a second opinion before you go dumping it. You may be in need of a neck reset, which is much cheaper than a new guitar or you may need to have the trust rod itself modified. By that I mean the tech would need to use one of these tools to create more space for the truss rod to function. http://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Essential_Tool_Kits/Truss_Rod_Rescue_K it.html
The issue may be as simple as an issue of environment and the humidity in your house is causing some neck warpage. How is the instrument stored when you're not playing it? Also what area of the country do you live in?



First of all to date your Gibson look at the serial number, the first and fifth numbers will be your year code, so if it were to say 8****5*** it would be a 1985 model. They've used this on all standard production models (not included the custom shop or historic line however) since the late 70's early 80's, the exact date escapes me at the moment.

As for your truss rod issue, there are a lot of techs out there that are good and doing basic setups but when they see something like you are describing they feel that they are in over their heads and will tell you it's going to be too expensive to be worth it and to dump it off on some other unsuspecting person. This pisses me off and is why I said to find another tech. There are a lot of other things that go into a setup other than a truss rod, bridge, saddle and pickup height for example, condition and material as well as the slots and how well they are cut of the nut, I could go on.
My guess is that there is still hope for your guitar and in the hands of a more experience tech, your guitar is completely salvagable. There are a lot of guys that post on www.thegearpage.net that are in the NJ area that could make a recommendation if you were to post up something about looking for a second opinion there (venutre there w/ a grain of salt though, it's a guitar forum and there are plenty of "experts" if you know what I mean) Just out of curiosity, when you say it wasn't playing or sounding right, can you be a bit more descriptive? Was it buzzing anywhere on the neck when you played or was the sound dull and flat or was it not intonating properly?
Finally, head down to the hardware store and buy a hygrometer and put it into the room that your guitar is most often in. After a few days check to see what the relative humidity in that room is, ideally you would want to keep that room somewhere around 50% .



[Edited on 7/10/2014 by psychobillycadillac]

 

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  posted on 8/22/2014 at 02:56 PM
Surely call Gibson.

There's a thread elsewhere on the web of this exact situation and it says Gibson would do a replacement for $1800 which won't be worth it (likely) but I'd still call them and see what they say. I'd also mention that you heard it was seen before kind of thing and see what they say about it.

Another good suggestion was to replace the neck with rep-luthier. Someone suggested to buy an ES with a busted body for cheap and have the luthier piece them together. That may be expensive too, but probably better route than Gibson.

Hate to hear that for you.

 

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  posted on 12/29/2014 at 04:41 PM
what happened? I would find an authorized Gibson tech check it out. I don't think a 335 would turn sour like that. it's worth s try
 

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  posted on 1/18/2015 at 01:15 PM
Sometimes Gibson would run a little finish on the nut of the truss rod which makes it a little hard to turn. Supposedly this would let the luthier know if someone had adjusted it. I had an issue like this with a Firebird. A well respected luthier and friend told me it was nothing he could do. Took it back to the store I bought it from. They set it up no problem.

 

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  posted on 1/31/2015 at 02:07 PM
Have you trued loosening it most of the way, letting it sit awhile, then slowly tighten?

This worked for me once.

 
 


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