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Author: Subject: Behold, the drunk uncle-ization of America

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  posted on 7/8/2014 at 10:25 PM
Interesting article from the Chicago Tribune..........


By Rex W. Huppke
July 8, 2014

Got a busload of immigrant children? We'll scream at 'em.

Got a problem with gun violence? We'll flaunt our assault rifles in the aisles of Target.

Worried about the environment? Too bad, sucker, we're busy customizing our pickup trucks with smokestacks that belch black exhaust into the air.

Welcome to the drunk uncle-ization of America.

A country made up mostly of good, intelligent, kindhearted people is letting a small but noisy part of the populace paint an entirely different face for the world to see, a face that sneers at reason and science, and eschews kindness for righteous indignation. With the voracious 24-hour news cycle and the reach of social media, these people are making us the embarrassing relative that causes the other nations at the dinner table to shake their heads.

Perhaps it's time we found a way to sober up.

The most recent unsavory images transmitted globally were of sweaty Americans lined up across a road in Murrieta, Calif., blocking three buses full of immigrant mothers and children, shouting at them and holding signs that read "Return to Sender" and "Send Them Home."

What those protesters fail to understand is that these immigrants are being processed per the laws of the land. Most of them come from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, and the unaccompanied children are protected under the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, which was signed into law by President George W. Bush.

While Mexican immigrants who enter the country illegally can be swiftly deported, the 2008 law says minors from Central America have to be detained and given a chance to appear before a judge.

That kind of nuance is lost on people who like to stand outside and yell.

Of course the more important issue is that the buses targeted were filled with children some with their mothers, others unaccompanied fleeing vicious gang and drug cartel violence. Per a recent report by the Women's Refugee Commission:

"Children from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador cited the growing influence of youth gangs and drug cartels as their primary reason for leaving. Not only are they subject to violent attacks by the gangs, they explained, they are also targeted by police, who assume out of hand that all children are gang-affiliated. Girls also face gender-based violence, as rape becomes increasingly a tool of control."

There are thoughtful discussions to be had about how this country can improve its immigration policies and handle the huge number of immigrants already here illegally. But these are children we're talking about, children traversing hundreds of miles to escape violence that, according to an analysis by the news website Vox, has been statistically worse for civilians than it was in Iraq during the height of the war.

Most Americans would be sympathetic to the plight of these kids. That's not to say we simply open our doors and say, "Come on in," but we certainly stop well short of rolling out a xenophobic Unwelcome Wagon like the one that met the buses in Murrieta.

But the knuckleheads out there did what they did, and this should be the headline: "Nation of immigrants who fled persecution persecutes immigrants fleeing persecution, irony surrenders to stupidity."

Because that's what this is stupidity. And we're letting it define the rest of us.

There were more than 80 people shot in Chicago over the holiday weekend. The world sees that, and it also sees the images of gun-toting Texans carrying rifles into fast-food restaurants to make an obstinate point.

We have politicians and pundits openly dismissing scientists as witch doctors while ignoring even the most basic arguments against pollution, and rebellious anti-environmental citizens "rolling coal," a trend where diesel trucks are rigged to spew black smoke.

Reasonable Americans that is to say, most of us favor sensible gun laws, care about the environment, would like to see our immigration system reformed and generally steer clear of yelling at busloads of children.

But Fox News highlights the "patriotic" immigration protesters, knowing its viewers will eat it up. Then MSNBC highlights the same protesters because it feeds the network's desire to misrepresent all conservatives as kooky. Then blogs and social media follow suit and, before long, America is the drunk uncle.

It really has to stop. And it seems the first step is admitting that we have a problem.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/huppke/ct-talk-huppke-drunk-uncl e-20140708,0,615165.story

 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 12:07 AM
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When Texas cowboys, they's all around,
With liquor and money, they loaded down.
So soon after payday, know it seemed a shame;
You know my uncle, he starts a friendly game,
High-low jack and the winner take the hand.

My uncle starts winnin'; cowboys got sore.
One of them called him, and then two more,
Accused him of cheatin'; Oh no, it couldn't be.
I know my uncle, he's as honest as me,
And I'm as honest as a Denver man can be.

One of them cowboys, he starts to draw,
And I shot him down, Lord he never saw.
Well I grabbed a bottle, cracked him in the jaw,
Shot me another, oh damn he won't grow old.
In the confusion, my uncle grabbed the gold,
And we high-tailed it down to Mexico.

I love those cowboys, I love their gold,
I loved my uncle, God rest his soul,
Taught me good, Lord, Taught me all I know
Taught me so well, I grabbed that gold
And I left his dead ass there by the side of the road.


 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 06:08 AM
When it comes to American Exceptionalism and this article certainly does point out how exceptionally stupid and delusional some muricans are.

 

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Here in America a desperate single mom left her kid in a car so she could go to a job interview. Well, she was locked up, kids torn away from her and labeled an unfit mother.

In Obamas America we will reunite children with these families who essentially abandoned them or pin medals on the kids and fawn over about how brave they are.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 08:28 AM
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Here in America a desperate single mom left her kid in a car so she could go to a job interview. Well, she was locked up, kids torn away from her and labeled an unfit mother. ....


Taking a rare break from my vow to never post in the WP.

Please do not make or offer ANY excuse for leaving a baby locked alone in a car - especially during summer months. Don't make excuses for leaving infants on train platforms, parks or in general, abandoning them at all!

I'm sure the mother that you refer to could have found someone to look after her baby for a couple of hours. There are too many churches and other agencies who provide assistance.

I have no comment on the original article that Sang posted or the other comments that came afterward.

But please, do not offer reasons or excuses for leaving a helpless baby alone in a car.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 09:27 AM
Way to represent your party, OriginalGoober. You've been on a roll lately.
 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 10:00 AM

Is it responsible to walk across a desert in Texas witl your child and bring no water with you and let you keep your kid.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 10:09 AM
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Here in America a desperate single mom left her kid in a car so she could go to a job interview. Well, she was locked up, kids torn away from her and labeled an unfit mother.

In Obamas America we will reunite children with these families who essentially abandoned them or pin medals on the kids and fawn over about how brave they are.


I seem to remember that woman, in Obama's America, was locked up. You spew nonsense Goober.

 

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Here in America a desperate single mom left her kid in a car so she could go to a job interview. Well, she was locked up, kids torn away from her and labeled an unfit mother.

In Obamas America we will reunite children with these families who essentially abandoned them or pin medals on the kids and fawn over about how brave they are.


I seem to remember that woman, in Obama's America, was locked up. You spew nonsense Goober.


He's not called "goober" for nuthin.

 

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Here in America a desperate single mom left her kid in a car so she could go to a job interview. Well, she was locked up, kids torn away from her and labeled an unfit mother.

In Obamas America we will reunite children with these families who essentially abandoned them or pin medals on the kids and fawn over about how brave they are.


I seem to remember that woman, in Obama's America, was locked up. You spew nonsense Goober.



where is your compassion, and wouldnt the decent thing be to have looked the other way on this?
I keep getting my heart strings tugged by all the liberal media accounts of these poor kids plight which outweighs breaking US law.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 11:21 AM
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I keep getting my heart strings tugged by all the liberal media accounts of these poor kids plight which outweighs breaking US law.


Deporting unaccompanied minors is...against the law.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 11:39 AM
Welcome to Obamas Katrina.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 11:45 AM
More nonsense.

What is your news source? How can you be so ill-informed?

 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 11:47 AM
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More nonsense.

What is your news source? How can you be so ill-informed?


He will be in Texas for fundraising and not even worth his time to head down the border and take a look at the situation and talk to the folks on the ground dealing with this.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/09/politics/obama-texas-immigration-visit/

[Edited on 7/9/2014 by OriginalGoober]

 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 11:56 AM
I think that is a stupid political move on the part of the President.

That does not dismiss the nonsense of your post.

The woman you initially spoke of was punished by existing law. That is how society works.

The South American children are being dealt with according to a bill signed into law by George W. Bush. The Obama administration is following existing law.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 12:00 PM
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Is it responsible to walk across a desert in Texas witl your child and bring no water with you and let you keep your kid.


When its your childs best option at a better future, Yes.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 12:16 PM
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Is it responsible to walk across a desert in Texas witl your child and bring no water with you and let you keep your kid.


When its your childs best option at a better future, Yes.


Shining light
In the darkness of the night
Beacon to the poor and oppresed in flight
Giving hope to those within your sight
Keeper of the flame of freedom

Friendly smile
Of peace on your lips while
Inside your heart a fire runs wild
The same fire that bore you as a child
Daughter of the Revolution

Still alive
Though a few strong winds tried to blow you aside
And a few of your children have hurt your pride
And though your seams are stretched so wide
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The South American children are being dealt with according to a bill signed into law by George W. Bush. The Obama administration is following existing law.




Funny how Boehner wants to sue him for not following the law, and now he is criticized for following the law......

 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 01:08 PM
The original article makes a great point. The right wing idiots we see in the media do not represent conservatism. I have no idea why Republican leaders cater to those creatures. If they were smarter, they'd distance themselves from them, and then maybe they can win the election. Seems like only Christie has the brains to do that.
 

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What those protesters fail to understand is that these immigrants are being processed per the laws of the land. Most of them come from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, and the unaccompanied children are protected under the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, which was signed into law by President George W. Bush.


"The Laws of the land"....And do not these same "Laws of the land" require LEGAL entry into this country?

Please.

 

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The original article makes a great point. The right wing idiots we see in the media do not represent conservatism. I have no idea why Republican leaders cater to those creatures. If they were smarter, they'd distance themselves from them, and then maybe they can win the election. Seems like only Christie has the brains to do that.


In today's political climate, conservatism is the exact opposite of whatever Obama does, regardless of what he does. If the Keystone pipeline was Obama's idea, the conservatives would hate it.

 

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The original article makes a great point. The right wing idiots we see in the media do not represent conservatism. I have no idea why Republican leaders cater to those creatures. If they were smarter, they'd distance themselves from them, and then maybe they can win the election. Seems like only Christie has the brains to do that.


In today's political climate, conservatism is the exact opposite of whatever Obama does, regardless of what he does. If the Keystone pipeline was Obama's idea, the conservatives would hate it.


Fair enough. But it works both ways. Disagree with an Obama policy, and how is one labeled?

 

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Have to add. I love the drunk uncle character from SNL. My wife after a few can get drunk uncled and all sitting around the fire have a hoot when she is on her tirade.

Mexi-can't!!!! LOL

 

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  posted on 7/9/2014 at 02:15 PM
Yes, the laws require legal entry, so when illegal immigrants are caught, they should be processed according to federal law. It's that simple.

If someone disagrees with an Obama policy, they aren't labeled anything in particular. Those that name-call and crucify him for every move he makes are misguided and biased, IMO.

 
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