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  posted on 10/18/2014 at 07:17 PM
Ebola....there should be a bitch or defend obama thread
 

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  posted on 10/18/2014 at 08:06 PM
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We have to concede that Obama's choice for Ebola czar is a failure just because you say so, without even seeing what the man does? We take shots at you because you are an effing idiot. Ever notice why the other conservative posters on this site never acknowledge your existence and distance themselves from you? Ever wonder why the other conservative posters receive honest dialogue from the liberals here, but you only get shots? It's because they are smart, and you are a moron. You don't warrant any serious discussion from anyone because you offer nothing intelligent or interesting. Say something smart and interesting, and you will get a serious response.


So when you lower yourself with a nasty post, calling him a moron and what not, it's HIS fault and not yours?

Hmmm


I don't claim to be perfect. I'm human. And he is a moron.

 

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  posted on 10/18/2014 at 09:27 PM
And the liberal’s attacks on me continue.

Yet not one of you has presented an argument supporting Obama’s replacing the CDC director as spokesman for his administrations incompetent response to the Ebola issue with a political operative.

In the real world, that shows desperation. The liberals, unable to support Obama take to attacking those who can demonstrate his failures.

And I’m the moron?

Is your inability to craft an intelligent response due to the fact that on November 4th you political ideology will yet again be rejected by the American People?

 

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And the liberal’s attacks on me continue.

Yet not one of you has presented an argument supporting Obama’s replacing the CDC director as spokesman for his administrations incompetent response to the Ebola issue with a political operative.

In the real world, that shows desperation. The liberals, unable to support Obama take to attacking those who can demonstrate his failures.

And I’m the moron?

Is your inability to craft an intelligent response due to the fact that on November 4th you political ideology will yet again be rejected by the American People?

lots of evidence contrary to your claims has been posted, I believe you being labeled "moron" was letting you off easy.

 

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  posted on 10/18/2014 at 10:54 PM
I never called Muleman a moron. That would be an insult to morons..
 

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  posted on 10/19/2014 at 10:30 AM
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this is just another Y2K story. I'm sure it's something we have to watch and contain, but I find it very hard to believe this is going to be like the movie "Outbreak". It's just a convenient story for the media to eat up and get ratings. The more we panic, the more money they make.


Out of curiosity I flipped over to MSNBC mid-week to see what was up with Maddow.

Ebola? No.

She was running an "expose" showing 33-year old footage of Reagan, and how Nancy
consulted with astrologists.

Lean Forward?

 

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  posted on 10/19/2014 at 02:00 PM
Obama administration Eboia response failure detailed:

DR. ANTHONY FAUCI, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, says the Obama administration overstated US readiness for Ebola and the adopted World Health Organization protocol for handling patients with the virus is better suited for field work than confined hospital care.


 

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  posted on 10/19/2014 at 03:16 PM
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Obama administration Eboia response failure detailed:

DR. ANTHONY FAUCI, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, says the Obama administration overstated US readiness for Ebola and the adopted World Health Organization protocol for handling patients with the virus is better suited for field work than confined hospital care.




Our resident expert on everything cannot read.
Or he reads but doesn't comprehend.
Or he sees what he wants to see.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/19/fauci-tries-to-calm-us-after-mis steps-on-ebola-amid-concerns-americans-have/

America’s top infectious disease expert on Sunday again acknowledged that the safety protocols used for the nation’s first Ebola patient were inadequate, and that the Obama administration overstated the country’s readiness for the deadly virus, amid concern that Americans have already lost faith in the government.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told “Fox News Sunday” that the adopted World Health Organization protocol for handling an Ebola patient was better suited for field work than confined hospital care.

As a result, two nurses at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas were infected with Ebola while treating Thomas Eric Duncan, the Liberian national who arrived from West Africa with the virus and later died.

“It was very clear … that is not the optimal way,” Fauci said.

Fauci said he wasn’t sure how nurse Nina Pham became infected, but it was “likely” because “she was not completely covered.”

As many as 4,500 people in West Africa so far this year have died from Ebola.

Fauci also tried to quell some of the fear and criticism over President Obama and other administration officials overstating U.S. readiness, including White House adviser Lisa Monaco suggesting every U.S. hospital is fully prepared to treat an Ebola patient.


“Nothing is risk free,” Fauci told Fox News. He said that what U.S. health officials need to do now is not talk about things in “absolutes.”


Fauci also announced revised guidance for health care workers treating Ebola patients, which will include using protective gear "with no skin showing,"

Fauci said those caring for an Ebola patient in Dallas were left vulnerable because some of their skin was exposed.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is working on revisions to safety protocols.

Ebola's incubation period is 21 days, and Fauci noted that mark was being reached Sunday for Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital workers who first treated Thomas Eric Duncan, the Liberian man who later died of the disease.

"The ones now today that are going to be 'off the hook' are the ones that saw him initially in the emergency room," Fauci said.

Duncan was seen at the hospital on Sept. 26 and sent home with antibiotics. He returned by ambulance on Sept. 28, was admitted and died of Ebola on Oct. 8.

Judge Clay Jenkins, the chief executive in Dallas County, said that the protective order that has kept Duncan's family isolated expires Sunday at midnight.

"That's going to be a good thing for those families. They've been through so much, and we're very happy about that," Jenkins said.

But, Jenkins continued, "At the same time, we're extremely concerned about these health care workers and we continue to make contingency in the event that there are more cases."


 

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  posted on 10/19/2014 at 04:31 PM
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this is just another Y2K story. I'm sure it's something we have to watch and contain, but I find it very hard to believe this is going to be like the movie "Outbreak". It's just a convenient story for the media to eat up and get ratings. The more we panic, the more money they make.


Out of curiosity I flipped over to MSNBC mid-week to see what was up with Maddow.

Ebola? No.

She was running an "expose" showing 33-year old footage of Reagan, and how Nancy
consulted with astrologists.

Lean Forward?


So did you watch an entire show, or just flip and happen to see the Nancy Reagan spot for a couple minutes? How many Maddow hourly shows did you watch start to finish this past week? Let me guess - none?

If you're truly interested in seeing what she had to say, just Google "Maddow on Ebola". But you already knew you could do that. Instead, you just wanted to do that snarky thing to which others have alluded.

 

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  posted on 10/19/2014 at 05:06 PM
Our resident expert on everything cannot read.
Or he reads but doesn't comprehend.
Or he sees what he wants to see.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/19/fauci-tries-to-calm-us-after-mis steps-on-ebola-amid-concerns-americans-have/

America’s top infectious disease expert on Sunday again acknowledged that the safety protocols used for the nation’s first Ebola patient were inadequate, and that the Obama administration overstated the country’s readiness for the deadly virus, amid concern that Americans have already lost faith in the government.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told “Fox News Sunday” that the adopted World Health Organization protocol for handling an Ebola patient was better suited for field work than confined hospital care.

As a result, two nurses at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas were infected with Ebola while treating Thomas Eric Duncan, the Liberian national who arrived from West Africa with the virus and later died.

“It was very clear … that is not the optimal way,” Fauci said.

Fauci said he wasn’t sure how nurse Nina Pham became infected, but it was “likely” because “she was not completely covered.”

As many as 4,500 people in West Africa so far this year have died from Ebola.

Fauci also tried to quell some of the fear and criticism over President Obama and other administration officials overstating U.S. readiness, including White House adviser Lisa Monaco suggesting every U.S. hospital is fully prepared to treat an Ebola patient.


“Nothing is risk free,” Fauci told Fox News. He said that what U.S. health officials need to do now is not talk about things in “absolutes.”


Fauci also announced revised guidance for health care workers treating Ebola patients, which will include using protective gear "with no skin showing,"

Fauci said those caring for an Ebola patient in Dallas were left vulnerable because some of their skin was exposed.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is working on revisions to safety protocols.

Ebola's incubation period is 21 days, and Fauci noted that mark was being reached Sunday for Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital workers who first treated Thomas Eric Duncan, the Liberian man who later died of the disease.

"The ones now today that are going to be 'off the hook' are the ones that saw him initially in the emergency room," Fauci said.

Duncan was seen at the hospital on Sept. 26 and sent home with antibiotics. He returned by ambulance on Sept. 28, was admitted and died of Ebola on Oct. 8.

Judge Clay Jenkins, the chief executive in Dallas County, said that the protective order that has kept Duncan's family isolated expires Sunday at midnight.

"That's going to be a good thing for those families. They've been through so much, and we're very happy about that," Jenkins said.

But, Jenkins continued, "At the same time, we're extremely concerned about these health care workers and we continue to make contingency in the event that there are more cases."




Not to mention this as well.


Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, today defended President Obama's choice of Ron Klain to be the administration's Ebola "czar" despite his lack of medical background, calling him an "excellent manager."

"I think that's a misplaced criticism," Fauci told "This Week" anchor George Stephanopoulos. "What we're talking about now is an Ebola response coordinator, somebody who has extraordinary, as he does, managerial experience ... leadership experience, which he has plenty of.

"He's going to rely on medical experts, like myself and Dr. Frieden and others, to do the medical things," Fauci said, referring to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention chief Dr. Tom Frieden

[Edited on 10/19/2014 by tbomike]

 

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  posted on 10/19/2014 at 06:06 PM
Jkeller, it is real simple: just read the words slowly or find a child to explain them to you:

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said:

1.) the safety protocols used for the nation’s first Ebola patient were inadequate
2.) the Obama administration overstated the country’s readiness for the deadly virus, amid concern that Americans have already lost faith in the government.
3.) Obama and other administration officials overstated U.S. readiness
4.) And White House adviser Lisa Monaco suggesting every U.S. hospital is fully prepared to treat an Ebola patient was wrong.

If you actually watched the interview you would know that Dr. Fauci had been given the Obama administrations line and was regurgitating the political spiel by acknowledging the mistakes made but reassuring the people that they are now in control and taking the measures… blah, blah, blah.

The Obama administration failed yet again and is in damage control.

Won’t help though, The American People will send a strong message to Obama Nov. 4th when The Republicans take control of The Senate.


 

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  posted on 10/19/2014 at 06:12 PM
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Jkeller, it is real simple: just read the words slowly or find a child to explain them to you:

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said:

1.) the safety protocols used for the nation’s first Ebola patient were inadequate
2.) the Obama administration overstated the country’s readiness for the deadly virus, amid concern that Americans have already lost faith in the government.
3.) Obama and other administration officials overstated U.S. readiness
4.) And White House adviser Lisa Monaco suggesting every U.S. hospital is fully prepared to treat an Ebola patient was wrong.

If you actually watched the interview you would know that Dr. Fauci had been given the Obama administrations line and was regurgitating the political spiel by acknowledging the mistakes made but reassuring the people that they are now in control and taking the measures… blah, blah, blah.

The Obama administration failed yet again and is in damage control.

Won’t help though, The American People will send a strong message to Obama Nov. 4th when The Republicans take control of The Senate.




Once again, your reading comprehension skills are nonexistent. What is it? Do you agree with Fauci or is he an Obama political hack repeating the Obama political line? You have said both. Mind you, he has been with the NIH since 1968.

Everyone is right. You really are a moron. You have no clue what you are talking about.

 

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  posted on 10/19/2014 at 06:20 PM
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this is just another Y2K story. I'm sure it's something we have to watch and contain, but I find it very hard to believe this is going to be like the movie "Outbreak". It's just a convenient story for the media to eat up and get ratings. The more we panic, the more money they make.


Out of curiosity I flipped over to MSNBC mid-week to see what was up with Maddow.

Ebola? No.

She was running an "expose" showing 33-year old footage of Reagan, and how Nancy
consulted with astrologists.

Lean Forward?


So did you watch an entire show, or just flip and happen to see the Nancy Reagan spot for a couple minutes? How many Maddow hourly shows did you watch start to finish this past week? Let me guess - none?

If you're truly interested in seeing what she had to say, just Google "Maddow on Ebola". But you already knew you could do that. Instead, you just wanted to do that snarky thing to which others have alluded.


Whether I watched for seven minutes, 23 minutes, are the full hour; what on Earth does a 33-year old story about essentially nothing have to do with anything going on today? How is that "Leaning Forward?" That's not even Leaning Present.

And If "snarky" commentary is bothersome, why the hell would anybody watch Maddow? That woman (?) personifies the word like nobody else I can think of, with the possible exception of her protege' Olbermann. That pretty much confirms my theory on snarkiness...If you agree with what the person is saying it's not a problem at all. Just like on this site.

It would seem that, with all of what's going on in the present day, they could figure out something halfway germane to report on throughout the episode. Guess not.


Lean Forward, my @ss. More like Bend Over.

 

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  posted on 10/19/2014 at 06:26 PM
You should listen to Julie Mason's Press Pool on POTUS radio. That show has no purpose except to snark. Well, snark and be catty.

She does play really good bumper music though.

 

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  posted on 10/19/2014 at 06:41 PM
Alloak judges a show based on seeing a couple of minutes of a segment. Not the entire segment, just a part of it. I guess when your mind is made up before you start, it is easy to be that way. Alloak and Muleman, the experts of the Whipping Post. Or should I say, uninformed experts.
 

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  posted on 10/19/2014 at 06:53 PM
I used to listen to Randi Rhodes and Al Franken on Air America. Now, that was entertainment! Listening to them trying to handle Conservative callers was genuine train wreck radio. They usually hung up on them, followed by Randi Rhodes making noises that sounded like the other side of Hell. Cutting edge stuff.
 

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  posted on 10/19/2014 at 07:02 PM
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this is just another Y2K story. I'm sure it's something we have to watch and contain, but I find it very hard to believe this is going to be like the movie "Outbreak". It's just a convenient story for the media to eat up and get ratings. The more we panic, the more money they make.


Out of curiosity I flipped over to MSNBC mid-week to see what was up with Maddow.

Ebola? No.

She was running an "expose" showing 33-year old footage of Reagan, and how Nancy
consulted with astrologists.

Lean Forward?


So did you watch an entire show, or just flip and happen to see the Nancy Reagan spot for a couple minutes? How many Maddow hourly shows did you watch start to finish this past week? Let me guess - none?

If you're truly interested in seeing what she had to say, just Google "Maddow on Ebola". But you already knew you could do that. Instead, you just wanted to do that snarky thing to which others have alluded.


Whether I watched for seven minutes, 23 minutes, are the full hour; what on Earth does a 33-year old story about essentially nothing have to do with anything going on today? How is that "Leaning Forward?" That's not even Leaning Present.

And If "snarky" commentary is bothersome, why the hell would anybody watch Maddow? That woman (?) personifies the word like nobody else I can think of, with the possible exception of her protege' Olbermann. That pretty much confirms my theory on snarkiness...If you agree with what the person is saying it's not a problem at all. Just like on this site.

It would seem that, with all of what's going on in the present day, they could figure out something halfway germane to report on throughout the episode. Guess not.


Lean Forward, my @ss. More like Bend Over.


So it appears you didn't watch any of the daily Maddow shows for an entire hour. If you would have, you would have caught the Ebola segments. How many of the other stations spent an entire hour every day or night tasking Ebola? I flipped channels & found Ebola segments & other topics on several stations being discussed. Lean forward, past history, etc. - all stations do it including your fair & balanced channel.

As to your depiction of Dr. Maddow being snarky, I find her funny & refreshing, as well as exceptionally intelligent & on top of issues - maybe not from your angle but certainly from mine. She earned a Rhodes Scholarship, graduated from Stanford with a degree in poli. sci., and got her PhD from Oxford. To me, those are impressive accomplishments. Not many can claim those.


 

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  posted on 10/19/2014 at 07:13 PM
Hey now, go easy fellas. Truth be told I don't watch much besides sports on TV anymore. There are many days the set is not even turned on.
 

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You should listen to Julie Mason's Press Pool on POTUS radio. That show has no purpose except to snark. Well, snark and be catty.

She does play really good bumper music though.


She's a little on the heavy side, but pretty cute with a good ear for music? Plus, a Houston connection! Maybe we should get together. She seems like a fun hang. Is she straight?

 

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  posted on 10/20/2014 at 09:47 AM
For days the anti-Obama, anti-Klain talking point has been repeated. Indeed, the Fox team has been adamant: If the president appoints a czar to oversee a possible health crisis, that person must have a medical background.

Except, apparently, when the president was George Bush, the health fear was the bird flu virus, and Bush's czar had no medical background. Note that prior to becoming the nation's bird flu czar, Bush's point-person served as general counsel for Amtrak.

In 2004, Bush's bird flu czar was Stewart Simonson. He worked as an assistant secretary of health and human services for public health emergency preparedness. And although he had no medical experience or expertise in public health, he did enjoy a noted career as a Republican political insider.

CNN reported that year, "HHS officials admit Simonson has no undergraduate or advanced degree in public health."

When muted questions were raised about the selection, Health and Human Services secretary Thompson defended Simonson, much as the way the White House defends Klain, by stressing the czar's experience within government, his preparedness, and his ability to get things done. During his tenure, there was no indication that Simonson's lack of medical training hindered his ability to serve as Bush's bird flu czar.

So what was the Fox response when a point-person with no medical experience was tapped by the Bush White House to coordinate the government's dealing with a possible health crisis? Fox's response was radio silence. A search of Fox archives via Nexis produces no criticism of Simonson.

Granted, Simonson's appointment did not generate the amount of coverage that the recent Klain news has, and the bird flu never claimed a life in the United Sates. But if Fox News' dire demands that Obama's Ebola czar today must, must, must have a medical background, it stands to reason the same standard would have applied to Bush's pick of Simonson.

It did not.

And it wasn't just Fox News. From what I can see, there was very little coverage of Simonson's appointment within the conservative press, and virtually no objections to the fact he had no public health training. This, of course, is the same conservative media today that roundly and relentlessly criticizes the Klain appointment.

 

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  posted on 10/20/2014 at 10:11 AM
The background on Obama getting pissed his administration blew the Ebola response:

Amid Assurances on Ebola, Obama Is Said to Seethe

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us/amid-assurances-on-ebola-obama-is-said -to-seethe.html?_r=1
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At democratic party rally at an all black high school in an almost all black county Obama is dissed:

Obama talks, Audience Walks:

http://freebeacon.com/politics/rally-attendees-leave-event-after-obama-bega n-speaking/

 

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At democratic party rally at an all black high school in an almost all black county Obama is dissed:

Obama talks, Audience Walks:

http://freebeacon.com/politics/rally-attendees-leave-event-after-obama-bega n-speaking/



So muleone,

What is the point you are trying to make? Enlighten us with specifics.

 

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You know something. I really wish we would stop using the word "czar" to describe a presidential appointment of an individual to oversee a certain sector of the country. I believe it was originally used by the media, somewhat tongue and cheek, in the 70's to describe an appointment Carter made for someone to oversee the energy sector. Now the president himself as well as Senators Congressman and well pretty much everyone, are using this term to describe someone appointed by the president who, in effect, has no power and is nothing more than an advisor hired to streamline multi-agency responses to a certain problem. The term "Czar" is hardly American.

 

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At democratic party rally at an all black high school in an almost all black county Obama is dissed:

Obama talks, Audience Walks:

http://freebeacon.com/politics/rally-attendees-leave-event-after-obama-bega n-speaking/



So muleone,

What is the point you are trying to make? Enlighten us with specifics.

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You know something. I really wish we would stop using the word "czar" to describe a presidential appointment of an individual to oversee a certain sector of the country. I believe it was originally used by the media, somewhat tongue and cheek, in the 70's to describe an appointment Carter made for someone to oversee the energy sector. Now the president himself as well as Senators Congressman and well pretty much everyone, are using this term to describe someone appointed by the president who, in effect, has no power and is nothing more than an advisor hired to streamline multi-agency responses to a certain problem. The term "Czar" is hardly American.

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An unfortunate term.

Some presidents have used that type of appointment for cabinet level positions when they want to avoid any Senate approval requirement.


 
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