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Author: Subject: California Mass Shooting - Victim's father speaks out

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  posted on 5/27/2014 at 06:40 PM
Ho Hum, another month, another mass shooting. This month's psycho legally purchased his firearms. Take a minute to listen to one of the victim's father who has something to say about this problem. If you are someone who would oppose a law to require psychological testing before being granted permission to purchase a firearm, then you are part of the problem, and almost as dispicable as these shooters.

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  posted on 5/27/2014 at 06:51 PM
Local PD deserve a lot of scrutiny as well. This crazy posted all kinds of crazy video and I believe his parents even called the cops.
Not sure what rules they had to follow or didn't follow, but he was clearly headed toward a major
breakdown, and he had it.

 

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  posted on 5/27/2014 at 07:16 PM
sensless act of violence. there should be a mechanism where concerned parents can request that their kids get added to a do not sell to list or something.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2014 at 11:59 AM
Of course the anti-gunners overlook the fact that half the murders were caused by knife/machete and he also ran down several people with his car.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2014 at 01:19 PM
He was a spoiled little pi$$-pot with an over inflated ego.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2014 at 03:45 PM
Photoron, so since only 3 people were shot, it's a non-issue? And do you think it's ok that we don't require mental evaluations to purchase a gun? His mom revealed he was diagnosed with a form of autism, yet our law says he can still purchase. Is that right?
 

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  posted on 5/28/2014 at 03:55 PM
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He was a spoiled little pi$$-pot with an over inflated ego.


Word. They ought to go after this little s**ts parents...

 

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  posted on 5/28/2014 at 04:48 PM
For those blaming the parents, he had autism so it's not exactly fair to blame them for his behavior. Secondly, they alerted police several times when he started mentioning violence. Cops interviewed the shooter and deemed him "polite and wonderful".

Why is it so difficult to acknowledge that psychological evaluations are needed prior to buying? He was mentally ill and we let him buy a gun. How is that the parents fault?

 

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  posted on 5/28/2014 at 05:06 PM
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Why is it so difficult to acknowledge that psychological evaluations are needed prior to buying? He was mentally ill and we let him buy a gun. How is that the parents fault?


I read that 80 people across the country died of gun violence the week leading up to this mass shooting. It seems like a real problem to me.

If it were my kid that were shot and killed I wouldn't feel good just because the dead body was wrapped in the second amendment.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2014 at 06:29 PM
In the words of Fargo, all of this senseless violence, and for what? So the NRA can ensure to line their pockets with maximized gun sales. God forbid profits are a little less. When politicians and their families become targets, I bet laws will be passed right away.
 

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  posted on 5/28/2014 at 08:41 PM
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Photoron, so since only 3 people were shot, it's a non-issue? And do you think it's ok that we don't require mental evaluations to purchase a gun? His mom revealed he was diagnosed with a form of autism, yet our law says he can still purchase. Is that right?


I read a lot of his bullsh!t "manifesto".

He was more absorbed with World of Warcraft than he was with guns, his family (British heritage) were very anti-gun.

The fact that his dysfunctional family is trying to play the Asbergers card now is disgusting for those who actually have it.

The kid was in therapy from the age of eight.

Parents got him a "life coach".

This piece of garbage would have used a five gallon can of gasoline if he couldn't get another weapon.

More mental health care is needed here, not taking away rights from the 99.9% of the population that aren't loons.

 

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More mental health care is needed here, not taking away rights from the 99.9% of the population that aren't loons.


How is a mental evaluation taking away your right? Do you feel that your driving rights are restricted because of the course, written exam, and actual driving test?

 

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More mental health care is needed here, not taking away rights from the 99.9% of the population that aren't loons.


How is a mental evaluation taking away your right? Do you feel that your driving rights are restricted because of the course, written exam, and actual driving test?


Maybe more to the point is the eye test. Do we want blind people driving? That sounds crazy. Almost as crazy as letting the mentally ill buy guns.

 

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More mental health care is needed here, not taking away rights from the 99.9% of the population that aren't loons.


How is a mental evaluation taking away your right? Do you feel that your driving rights are restricted because of the course, written exam, and actual driving test?


And God forbid, when the first person who passes the "Mental evaluation" is found responsible for a mass shooting....what restrictions will the left wish imposed next?

 

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And God forbid, when the first person who passes the "Mental evaluation" is found responsible for a mass shooting....what restrictions will the left wish imposed next?


Really? That's the slippery slope? What happened when the first person with 20/20 vision ran over a pedestrian? Did everyone lose their right to drive?

 

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More mental health care is needed here, not taking away rights from the 99.9% of the population that aren't loons.
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And God forbid, when the first person who passes the "Mental evaluation" is found responsible for a mass shooting....what restrictions will the left wish imposed next?


It's not a measure expected to prevent all of them. It's a measure expected to prevent some, and probably many. If we made a list of all the shooters up to and including Columbine who bought guns legally, I will bet my bottom dollar more than half were mentally ill upon the time of purchasing their weapon. Mental illness is easily detected by professionals, as our major city police departments have proven. The question shouldn't be "what will be imposed next?", it should be "what is the most logical and effective way to keep our citizens safe?"


 

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More mental health care is needed here, not taking away rights from the 99.9% of the population that aren't loons.


Only 0.1% of the population are loons? Heck, based on the percentage of people who believe every wacky conspiracy theory out there, I'd put the percentage of US population that are looney at about 40%.

 

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  posted on 5/29/2014 at 01:17 AM
39 of those murders were in Chicago which has the nation's most restrictive gun laws. How is that working? 9th and this you are part of the problem bs is crazy. I own over 100 guns and thousands of rounds of ammo. I kill nothing but paper targets. I shoot to relieve stress so that I do not feel the need to inflict violence. Some people are just effed up and will kill with any available object. I believe we as parents and family members could do more than any laws by communicating with our loved ones and seeing the signs of mental illness rather than giving .gov another chance to do something poorly. I recently refused to sell my own brother a gun because he gets all bent over things (like ex wives and money). I couldn't live knowing he hurt himself in a moment of weakness.

 

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I believe we as parents and family members could do more than any laws by communicating with our loved ones and seeing the signs of mental illness rather than giving .gov another chance to do something poorly.


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  posted on 5/29/2014 at 08:53 AM
The shooter's parents alerted the police more than once, and he had been diagnosed with autism. Your theory fails.

Of course we all would wish that families would raise themselves better, but do you really expect that to happen? Or is the more likely scenario that there are millions of dysfunctional families all over the country. What is your plan for families to do more? Rhetoric solves nothing, let's see a plan and some action. I've outlined a detailed plan before, what's yours?

You are completely naive if you think the average family can address and treat mental illness on their own. Do you know anything about bipolar disorder?

You have been dancing around the question, but it still remains...do you support allowing the mentally ill the right to buy and bear a firearm?

 

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Of course we all would wish that families would raise themselves better, but do you really expect that to happen?


I hope it will happen, but if it doesn't I am certainly not amongst those who feel like yet another FEDERAL law is going to change anything.

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The question shouldn't be "what will be imposed next?"


Not for you maybe, but it certainly is an issue for me. I just do not and will never believe more Federal legislation is the answer. Period.

 

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The question shouldn't be "what will be imposed next?"


Not for you maybe, but it certainly is an issue for me. I just do not and will never believe more Federal legislation is the answer. Period.


BB is right. Just keep passing more laws, rules, regulations. Eventually nothing bad will EVER happen. If you think you're safe now, just wait.

 

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Ok, I notice the key word for you two is "federal", so if your state issued a new law requiring mandatory psychological evaluations for firearm purchases, would you oppose or support?
 

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  posted on 5/29/2014 at 02:26 PM
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Ok, I notice the key word for you two is "federal", so if your state issued a new law requiring mandatory psychological evaluations for firearm purchases, would you oppose or support?


I repeat my earlier statement/question.

"When this fails for the first time, what new restrictions, sanctions, rules, regulations and laws are next"?

I can hear it now..."How did that psychologically disturbed person acquire that firearm"?..We need more laws! lol

Oppose, strongly.

 

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  posted on 5/29/2014 at 05:16 PM
During Katrina the cops and the private security forces confiscated private citizens' guns. The second amendment didn't work very well in that situation.

 

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