jerryphilbob
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posted on 1/19/2014 at 12:57 PM |
So, what do you think? I kind of like Mike. Not sure what the rest of the faithful think, but I like what he does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9LF52EpiZM
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stevechild
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posted on 1/19/2014 at 01:34 PM |
I think both guitarist gave a great interpretation on the solo's...  ____________________
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Mule75
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posted on 1/19/2014 at 01:52 PM |
Good bar band version.
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tbomike
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posted on 1/19/2014 at 01:55 PM |
So you felt the need to post this because someone on the Ratbore board said he is auditioning for the Allmans? Gee it would be so exciting.
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CB
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posted on 1/19/2014 at 02:07 PM |
"you're my blue Sky, you're my sunny day?"
Not that many lyrics to the song, should have done them right.
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BIGV
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posted on 1/19/2014 at 02:08 PM |
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I think both guitarist gave a great interpretation on the solo's...
Agreed. Sounds as good as or better than any version I've heard from the current incarnation of DB&GS.
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lukester420
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posted on 1/19/2014 at 03:35 PM |
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I think both guitarist gave a great interpretation on the solo's...
Agreed. Sounds as good as or better than any version I've heard from the current incarnation of DB&GS.
on that note, I got nothing against Duane and he is an adequate player but I think it's safe to say if his last name wasn't Betts none of us would distinguish him from any other bar band guitar slinger. ____________________
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suk0
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posted on 1/19/2014 at 04:03 PM |
Boring.
No one going to comment on the fact that they had to walk the drummer through the changes? I mean, the song isn't difficult at all and he couldn't get it right?
And...man, do I HATE the sound of PRS guitars.
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The_Newt
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posted on 1/19/2014 at 04:44 PM |
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So you felt the need to post this because someone on the Ratbore board said he is auditioning for the Allmans? Gee it would be so exciting.
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brocklang
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posted on 1/19/2014 at 07:24 PM |
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Boring.
No one going to comment on the fact that they had to walk the drummer through the changes? I mean, the song isn't difficult at all and he couldn't get it right?
And...man, do I HATE the sound of PRS guitars.
That PRS sounded WAY better than that SG did. I don't know what kind of amp he was playing through but it sounded like crap. ____________________
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jerryphilbob
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posted on 1/19/2014 at 08:20 PM |
I could see the band going in this direction. It might not be what people expect after having two extraordinary guitarist like Warren & Derek, but it would not surprise me in the least.
I like Miz and I hope he gets the gig. I hope people can keep an open mind about it?
Bluegrass Guitar Secrets by Mike Miz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K2mvHLywIU
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islalala
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posted on 1/19/2014 at 08:34 PM |
Simmer down both senior and junior. A little too bombastic of an approach for my taste.
Sometimes it's the notes you don't play...
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lukester420
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posted on 1/19/2014 at 10:23 PM |
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Simmer down both senior and junior. A little too bombastic of an approach for my taste.
Sometimes it's the notes you don't play...
Agreed, I liked Jr.'s solo, a little too bombastic but as a guitar slinger myself I understand completely. I always have in the back of mind tings like "slooow dowwwwn" or " Sutbly" or "pocket pocket pocket" but when you're playing in a little club sometimes it gets real easy show off when people are listening or do something bombastic when you feel like no one is listening. I tried to train myself to only get bombastic after slowly drawing the crowd into a solo but it doesn't always work like that. A lot of times I listen to recordings of gigs and go "man slow down! Without cocaine there is no excuse for those overly busy noodle leads"
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mulelouisville
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posted on 1/19/2014 at 10:43 PM |
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jerryphilbob
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posted on 1/20/2014 at 12:04 AM |
I have a feeling this band is going to get the "furthur" treatment and Miz fits the bill to a T. Nobody, and I mean nobody is going to replace Warren and Derek. That isn't going to happen. I am pretty sure they are going to keep this thing going and they are looking to do it on the "cheap". I can easily see new or young talent taking the helm at the guitars. The core members don't believe that you won't show up if Chuck or any other guitarist on your wish list isn't on the bill.
I don't see the ABB shelling out big bucks on talent.
They have proven they can do it without Dickey, and I am pretty sure they think they can pull this off without Warren and Derek.
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joe-beacon
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posted on 1/20/2014 at 08:23 AM |
the band is done .Gregg is going to do his own thing with his bad . as for miz he is good at what he does with his band as for playing with abb it's not going to work. I think they are smart enough to know that if there going to replace warren / Derek then they need some killer guitar players not some cheap player for hire and I don't see that happening . ever band comes to a end and its time for them . I really hope they don't do the furthur thing because it's sad seeing them up there milking people for there money I rather spend my money on seeing dso then furthur . for me it will suck I have been to and recorded almost every beacon show they played and spent a lot of years with them at the beacon plus other venues so I am going to have to figure out what to do with myself every march for now on .
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axeman
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posted on 1/20/2014 at 09:06 AM |
Agree - not enough of their "own voice." sounds nice, but that is some standard pentatonic riffing with a few Duane licks thrown in.
Not knocking em, but if the ABB is serious about continuing, they need to get someone who knows how to play the Duane parts and themes while also adding a unique virtuoso voice to music. A respectful pentatonic rendering is not going to draw crowds (why not go see Muke Martz do it in a bar) and sure isn't going to get anyone to spend $100 on a Beacon ticket.
Ironically, RatDog is the best cautionary tale for the ABB: Weir and Lesh seldom took the time to find players who played JG's style yet brought their own virtuosity to the table (not knocking Warren, Jimmy etc, just how they fit; hear me out). As a result, Weir found himself as the opening act for Dark Star Orchestra at the Gathering of the Vibes. Ticket sales dont lie: Fans thought a cover band was doing a better job playing Bob Weir songs than Bob Weir.
I heard an Allman cover band on Hittin The Note radio a while back and the parts I heard sounded better than a lot of things I have heard several incarnations of the ABB play. Power to Mike Martz, I wish I could play like that, but the ABB need to find a Duane-influenced mega-virtuoso player or they could find themselves opening for a cover band
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MartinD28
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posted on 1/20/2014 at 10:23 AM |
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Agree - not enough of their "own voice." sounds nice, but that is some standard pentatonic riffing with a few Duane licks thrown in.
Not knocking em, but if the ABB is serious about continuing, they need to get someone who knows how to play the Duane parts and themes while also adding a unique virtuoso voice to music. A respectful pentatonic rendering is not going to draw crowds (why not go see Muke Martz do it in a bar) and sure isn't going to get anyone to spend $100 on a Beacon ticket.
Ironically, RatDog is the best cautionary tale for the ABB: Weir and Lesh seldom took the time to find players who played JG's style yet brought their own virtuosity to the table (not knocking Warren, Jimmy etc, just how they fit; hear me out). As a result, Weir found himself as the opening act for Dark Star Orchestra at the Gathering of the Vibes. Ticket sales dont lie: Fans thought a cover band was doing a better job playing Bob Weir songs than Bob Weir.
I heard an Allman cover band on Hittin The Note radio a while back and the parts I heard sounded better than a lot of things I have heard several incarnations of the ABB play. Power to Mike Martz, I wish I could play like that, but the ABB need to find a Duane-influenced mega-virtuoso player or they could find themselves opening for a cover band
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Some pretty cool points here.
Wow - didn't know that about Weir opening for DSO. Either he's accepted some sort of reality, or he's not strung out on ego. I may be wrong, but I wouldn't think too many musicians with Bobby's name recognition, history, and accomplishments would have opened?????
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posted on 1/20/2014 at 10:27 AM |
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dadof2
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posted on 1/20/2014 at 11:00 AM |
If the ABB go in the direction of Furthur,featuring a "pretend" guitarist(like pretend Jerry in Furthur) then I'd hope they rename themselves like Furthur did...something like the Peach band...the guy featured in the you tube posted here is a very very good player and I wish I could play so well.But,to consider this on par with the Allmans guitarists through the years is probably absurd.But,then again,"pretend" Jerry in Furthur is also an excellent player with the timbre of Jerry's sound...but,in the end,he's pretending to play like Jerry,and he's not jerry and simply sounds like a very good amateur player who mimics sound nicely...but you can easily hear the difference and the qualitative gap.This guy Miz would be a nice "pretend" player,but nothing to base the future of the ABB on.Imho,the only players that would make it truly worthwhile to continue the Allman Brothers are Chuck and Jack.Anyone else...I prefer they end the ABB and hope they regroup for a few dates every once in awhile.
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sully
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posted on 1/20/2014 at 11:55 AM |
JPB,
This is very solid playing. i wish i could play like that. but solid does not cut it with the ABB. not that rankings count, but the four principle guitarists in the ABB (duane, dickey, derek and warren) are all time greats! we're talking the pinnacle of rock guitar. and jimmy and jack are two of the best guitarists ever and have pushed these greats to new heights.
also, the 3 originals have pride. they are not going to do anything less than stellar. they realize that no paycheck is worth diminishing the brand.
considering butch's close relationship with Luther D, i could see that happening. i also could see horns, keys, and two guitars filling in for derek and warren. it needs to be different. and it will be.
to be successful in 2015, the ABB will flesh out their band with talent, tone and variety. and it might just surprise us. ____________________
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posted on 1/20/2014 at 05:58 PM |
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posted on 1/25/2014 at 12:46 PM |
a friend of mine talked to Miz at one of his recent shows. apparently he is scheduled to guest at a beacon show (maybe more, she didnt say) and then he has an audition with ABB in march. she didnt mention if it was the same time(s) as the beacon, but that would probably make sense.
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dadof2
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posted on 1/25/2014 at 02:25 PM |
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he is also talking with John K (further) about doing some sort of project together.
So pretend Jerry is joining forces with pretend generic Allmans guitarist. 
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Mule75
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posted on 1/25/2014 at 02:30 PM |
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a friend of mine talked to Miz at one of his recent shows. apparently he is scheduled to guest at a beacon show (maybe more, she didnt say) and then he has an audition with ABB in march. she didnt mention if it was the same time(s) as the beacon, but that would probably make sense.
Feeling sick to my stomach. This guy isn't even really guest material.
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