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  posted on 12/28/2013 at 03:44 PM
Can we give some credit where credit is due? The White House even admitted that they chose not to extend the benefits because it will help our economy.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/27/news/economy/unemployment-benefits-expire/i ndex.html?hpt=hp_t3


 
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  posted on 12/28/2013 at 04:54 PM
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Can we give some credit where credit is due? The White House even admitted that they chose not to extend the benefits because it will help our economy.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/27/news/economy/unemployment-benefits-expire/i ndex.html?hpt=hp_t3




Huh? The article you link most certainly does not " admit they chose not to extend benefits because it will help out economy".

The White House issued a statement on Friday saying senators have put forward bipartisan legislation to extend emergency unemployment insurance for three months, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will bring it to vote as soon as they are back from recess.
The Obama administration has said the end of extended benefits can have a major impact on the economy.

The White House Council of Economic Advisers and Department of Labor issued a joint report earlier this month touting how jobless benefits buoy the economy, while keeping 2.5 million workers out of poverty each year.

The White House pointed out in a separate report that the expiration of benefits could reduce U.S. GDP by 0.2 to 0.4 percentage point in 2014, according to the Congressional Budget Office and a J.P. Morgan Chase economist.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2013 at 06:06 PM
Maybe I misunderstood their meaning of "impact". It's a lot less government spending, that's for sure. I feel badly for the people losing their benefits, but I don't think unemployment should last for more than 6 monts to a year. At any rate, this seems like an attempt to cut spending, and reduce the "handouts" that the conservatives are so strongly against. I happen to agree with this particular cut, however.
 

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  posted on 12/28/2013 at 06:24 PM
Whatever your opinion or even mine is you clearly misunderstand the White House opinion as they most certainly want the benefits extended and do not agree that it is harmful to the economy and make the case for its benefit to the economy.
 

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  posted on 12/28/2013 at 07:09 PM
I'm a far Left Progressive and I think the unemployment benefits are lasting too long. Once people get off the dole they will no longer afford to be complacent. They will demand that Congress pass the jobs program. They will demand new programs that put our country back to work rebuilding our infrastructure.

We have done a pretty darn good job creating jobs rebuilding infrastructures in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Japan, Europe, the Falklands, and more. Americans need to demand change.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2013 at 07:50 PM
Get the facts straight ..the pachyderm party is the one to blame!!

 

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  posted on 12/29/2013 at 09:45 AM
These utterly worthless House Republicans have done everything in their power to prevent an economic recovery. It is totally mystifying to me how poor and middle class people can vote for a group of people whose only agenda is to make billionaires even more wealthy at the expense of everyone else. I can't think of a single thing in the last 40 years Republicans have done to help the poor and middle class. You have to go all the way back to Eisenhower.

 

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  posted on 12/29/2013 at 11:17 AM
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I'm a far Left Progressive and I think the unemployment benefits are lasting too long. Once people get off the dole they will no longer afford to be complacent. They will demand that Congress pass the jobs program. They will demand new programs that put our country back to work rebuilding our infrastructure.

We have done a pretty darn good job creating jobs rebuilding infrastructures in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Japan, Europe, the Falklands, and more. Americans need to demand change.




For the most part I agree with you on this. The dependence on LT benefits cannot be a good thing & creates complacency. On the other hand the $'s doled out for benefits do find their way back into the economy. I'm guessing the net cost outweighs the benefit of this???? I'm heading out the door & don't have time to research this right now.

I do believe we have opportunities to parallel infrastructure enhancement throughout this country similar to what you have described in foreign countries. Lord knows many of the bridges & roads throughout this country are in horrible / unsafe condition. That would be a good place to begin for job programs.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2014 at 02:38 AM
How can anyone say Obama is at fault for the Repubs failing to extend benefits? Even the article cited, which supposedly makes BoytonBrother's point does not say that, or anything similar. Not remotely similar.

BoytonBrother should apologize to everyone for posting an outright untruth.


 

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  posted on 1/9/2014 at 11:05 AM
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How can anyone say Obama is at fault for the Repubs failing to extend benefits?
Obama is not personally responsible, but as usual, he's not leading either. After preaching endlessly about changing the dynamic of Washington, he's done almost nothing to achieve it.

This unemployment benefits issue is easily solved. Congress just needs to find savings to offset the $6.5 billion cost. Can any sane and reasonable person believe that our legislators can't find a saving of 0.0017% out of our bloated $3.7 trillion budget?

Well, that's the current position of D's. Why should taxpayers have any sympathy towards a party that is so fiscally irresponsible that they can't even make this small effort to help the people they say they want to support? Is it so unreasonable for the other party to seek a compromise in order to cover this new spending request? It wouldn't seem so to rational men, but few of those exist in our political system.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2014 at 04:41 PM
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I'm a far Left Progressive and I think the unemployment benefits are lasting too long. Once people get off the dole they will no longer afford to be complacent. They will demand that Congress pass the jobs program. They will demand new programs that put our country back to work rebuilding our infrastructure.

We have done a pretty darn good job creating jobs rebuilding infrastructures in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Japan, Europe, the Falklands, and more. Americans need to demand change.





Beautiful post.

I very well may be in the minority here, but I am sitting in my office and trying to think of all the people I know who are unemployed. I live in a mid-sized city on the east coast. I am in a career that requires me to deal with many, many people. I am fortunate to also have a large network of friends. I can honestly say I know about 5 able-bodied and capable, employable people who are currently out of work, and each of them is willfully unemployed for one reason or antoher.

We each form our opinions about things based on our own experiences. I try to balance what I read with what I experience. It's hard to be empathetic, though, when the people I know are wilfully unemployed and I see jobs out there all the time. I have a wife and daughter at home. I can guarantee you, decidedly, that if I were out of work suddenly, I would be employed doing something in much less than 6 months.

Just my thoughts....

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  posted on 1/9/2014 at 05:45 PM
Instead of spending their time trying to regulate women's bodies and reproductive issues perhaps the right wing could focus on creating jobs that would enable people to find jobs rather than have to remain on unemployment payments. I can't imagine that any of the jobless are getting rich off of any unemployment check they might receive. We need jobs!

 

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  posted on 1/9/2014 at 05:58 PM
What does abortion have to do with this? Many belive that abortion is murder. If you believed that someone had legalized a type of murder, wouldn't you do everything you could to stop it?

The right wing/left wing/any wing of government is not responsible for creating jobs. Their responsibility is to get the phuck out of the way so that our economy can function as it's supposed to. THAT is what will create jobs.


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  posted on 1/25/2014 at 02:33 PM
There is a political party called the Constitutional Party and it is amazing nobody has supported it. The idea, well none of their candidates can win just means things stay the same. When the Working Families Party started they were small, and still are compared to the Donkey and Elephant groups, but all disenchanted people need to band together and start their own party, and then do what our forefathers did, fight for your freedom, or die subjugated, oppressed and poor from over taxation, money that is not worth what they claim it is and is not even backed by anything tangible. If you don't want to live in a third world type country, you got to start thinking about these things.

 

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  posted on 1/25/2014 at 06:16 PM
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Instead of spending their time trying to regulate women's bodies and reproductive issues perhaps the right wing could focus on creating jobs that would enable people to find jobs rather than have to remain on unemployment payments. I can't imagine that any of the jobless are getting rich off of any unemployment check they might receive. We need jobs!


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Just this week we heard from Mike Huckabee where he insulted women...again. Hope he runs for prez. And the GOP wonders why it doesn't appeal to women voters. Here's the exact quote from Mr. Huckabee.

“And if the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it, let us take that discussion all across America because women are far more than the Democrats have played them to be.”

 

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The right wing/left wing/any wing of government is not responsible for creating jobs. Their responsibility is to get the phuck out of the way so that our economy can function as it's supposed to. THAT is what will create jobs.


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Although I wouldn't expect that for at least three more years. Expect more of the same Obamanomic approach -- Taxation, regulation, moving money around in the economy.

 

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Instead of spending their time trying to regulate women's bodies and reproductive issues perhaps the right wing could focus on creating jobs that would enable people to find jobs rather than have to remain on unemployment payments. I can't imagine that any of the jobless are getting rich off of any unemployment check they might receive. We need jobs!


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Just this week we heard from Mike Huckabee where he insulted women...again. Hope he runs for prez. And the GOP wonders why it doesn't appeal to women voters. Here's the exact quote from Mr. Huckabee.

“And if the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it, let us take that discussion all across America because women are far more than the Democrats have played them to be.”


Just exactly WHERE in that quote does Huckabee insult women? I suggest you re-read what you quoted.

 

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  posted on 1/25/2014 at 10:47 PM
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Maybe I misunderstood their meaning of "impact". It's a lot less government spending, that's for sure. I feel badly for the people losing their benefits, but I don't think unemployment should last for more than 6 monts to a year. At any rate, this seems like an attempt to cut spending, and reduce the "handouts" that the conservatives are so strongly against. I happen to agree with this particular cut, however.


You do realize that the article is a month old and several things have happened since then.

 

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Maybe I misunderstood their meaning of "impact". It's a lot less government spending, that's for sure. I feel badly for the people losing their benefits, but I don't think unemployment should last for more than 6 monts to a year. At any rate, this seems like an attempt to cut spending, and reduce the "handouts" that the conservatives are so strongly against. I happen to agree with this particular cut, however.
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You do realize that the article is a month old and several things have happened since then.


You do realize that this thread and my quote above was from 12/28, correct?

 

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“And if the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it, let us take that discussion all across America because women are far more than the Democrats have played them to be.”
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Just exactly WHERE in that quote does Huckabee insult women? I suggest you re-read what you quoted.



It's insulting to women because the only person to bring up "helpless women" who need Uncle Sugar to help control their libido is Rush Limbaugh, and now Huckabee. These were the words of Rush when he called that young woman a slut because she supported the idea. Democrats never said anything of the sort, nor would those thoughts ever enter their minds. So even though Huckabee is implying that Democrats believe this, those are his thoughts and his words only. He said them, so he must believe them. It's a Freudian slip.

 

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“And if the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it, let us take that discussion all across America because women are far more than the Democrats have played them to be.”
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Just exactly WHERE in that quote does Huckabee insult women? I suggest you re-read what you quoted.



It's insulting to women because the only person to bring up "helpless women" who need Uncle Sugar to help control their libido is Rush Limbaugh, and now Huckabee. These were the words of Rush when he called that young woman a slut because she supported the idea. Democrats never said anything of the sort, nor would those thoughts ever enter their minds. So even though Huckabee is implying that Democrats believe this, those are his thoughts and his words only. He said them, so he must believe them. It's a Freudian slip.


Good response, Boyton.

Let me add this. The entire paragraph by Huckabee is insulting & degrading to women. It's pretty much in your face rhetoric. But the words that stand out are "they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government" .

I'm wondering if Huckabee, the religious ideologue feels the same about men.

Just wondering if 100 women heard Huckabee's words, what percentage of these women would find the terminology insulting?

 

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Just this week we heard from Mike Huckabee where he insulted women...again. Hope he runs for prez. And the GOP wonders why it doesn't appeal to women voters. Here's the exact quote from Mr. Huckabee.

“And if the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it, let us take that discussion all across America because women are far more than the Democrats have played them to be.”


Just exactly WHERE in that quote does Huckabee insult women? I suggest you re-read what you quoted.



I'm guessing some women might think Huckabee was telling the Republicans that the Democrats have brainwashed women into thinking their health insurance coverage for birth control prescriptions is because they can’t control their sex drives.

 

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Instead of spending their time trying to regulate women's bodies and reproductive issues perhaps the right wing could focus on creating jobs that would enable people to find jobs rather than have to remain on unemployment payments. I can't imagine that any of the jobless are getting rich off of any unemployment check they might receive. We need jobs!


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etc.

Just this week we heard from Mike Huckabee where he insulted women...again. Hope he runs for prez. And the GOP wonders why it doesn't appeal to women voters. Here's the exact quote from Mr. Huckabee.

“And if the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it, let us take that discussion all across America because women are far more than the Democrats have played them to be.”


Just exactly WHERE in that quote does Huckabee insult women? I suggest you re-read what you quoted.



How about not being able to control our libido and reproductive system without help from the government? I'm totally offended by his assumption that all women want is free birth control so they can go out and screw everything in sight. He obviously doesn't understand all the medical uses for birth control that have nothing to do with sex. If Viagra is covered under insurance there's no reason for women to not be covered under insurance for a medication that is beneficial to problems with their reproductive organs.

And by the way, the very fact that someone can't see why it's offensive to women says a lot about where they're coming from!!!

[Edited on 1/26/2014 by bigann]

 

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  posted on 1/26/2014 at 03:26 PM
I think Hackabee is an a$$hole and an imbicile, and I hope he makes a run for president.

 

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Instead of spending their time trying to regulate women's bodies and reproductive issues perhaps the right wing could focus on creating jobs that would enable people to find jobs rather than have to remain on unemployment payments. I can't imagine that any of the jobless are getting rich off of any unemployment check they might receive. We need jobs!


X2
X3
X4
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Just this week we heard from Mike Huckabee where he insulted women...again. Hope he runs for prez. And the GOP wonders why it doesn't appeal to women voters. Here's the exact quote from Mr. Huckabee.

“And if the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it, let us take that discussion all across America because women are far more than the Democrats have played them to be.”


Just exactly WHERE in that quote does Huckabee insult women? I suggest you re-read what you quoted.



How about not being able to control our libido and reproductive system without help from the government? I'm totally offended by his assumption that all women want is free birth control so they can go out and screw everything in sight. He obviously doesn't understand all the medical uses for birth control that have nothing to do with sex. If Viagra is covered under insurance there's no reason for women to not be covered under insurance for a medication that is beneficial to problems with their reproductive organs.

And by the way, the very fact that someone can't see why it's offensive to women says a lot about where they're coming from!!!

[Edited on 1/26/2014 by bigann]


Where in the hell are ya'll getting these things from his quote?
I see nothing of any type in the quote that you folks are getting in an uproar about.

I'm sorry to tell you this, but I read into it the quote what's actually said, not what I mistakenly believe what I want him to have said.

 

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