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  posted on 11/12/2013 at 08:22 AM
Brought this topic up about 3 yrs ago,if not longer.And most were in total denial,saying they were just your standard old run of the mill com trails.Curious as to if any of ya'll have taken your heads outta the sand pit,and takin a good,hard,long,open minded look at the skies the past few yrs.All i can say if you have ,and your take is still the same,then maybe some good strong cuban coffee laced with a black beauty/yellow jacket/white cross cocktail, might be in order.
Golly folks!Raise the curtain and take a peek behind & thru the smoke screens.It ain't that hard to see how society is spoon fed a diet to curve their takes,& manipulate their takes/convictions, & feelings on a daily basis.Patriot Act,Obama Care,Homeland Security,Trayvon Martin & the list goes on.Along with hand picked and scripted talking head hero's for both sides on the screen 24/7.
But go right ahead, and feel free to throw some lines out about too many you tube conspiracy videos etc.This ol sack of bones was hip and watching the circus come to town to stay, WAY BEFORE the computer,cell phones,you tube etc.
Just curious.Is it denial,too much for the mind/can't go that deep,or just plain in the corner with the dunce hat on 24/7?I mean it's right in front of your eyes people,with a magnifying zoom lens option at no additional charge.

 

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  posted on 11/12/2013 at 12:22 PM
That's nuts.







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  posted on 11/12/2013 at 02:23 PM
"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."
 

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  posted on 11/12/2013 at 08:22 PM
If what i was sayin was soooooooooooooooo far out in left field,that someone would have to go the farthest tip of the cosmos,to even be able to grasp a reasonable doubt,i would understand.But what is right in front of million's of eye's,and they don't have a clue,is totally mind blowing.
I was headed back home this a.m and cut thru a Mickey D parking lot,after deciding not to get a coke.I saw a man and a woman,who were what looked to be mgr's standing in the rear of the lot talking.I had been seeing the sky literally coated with x trails,over lapping trails etc all morning.And had also watched as the sky went from blue,to a haze blanket from the trails.SO!,i decided to point it out to em and see their response.Man you talk about bein in left field.They looked at me and then into the sky with a deer on thorazine lookin into a million candle light beam.I mean it was down right straight from the twilight zone.And their response was ,,,i don't know or see what your talkin about.And as i was pullin away,i kept an eye glued in the rear view observing their actions as i left.Buddy ,they went right back to yacking on that thorazine drip.Not even takin a glance back upwards.And let me tell ya,,,the sky looked like a battle field from War of the Worlds with the trails.
Oh well>Always loved Red Dogs sayin ,,ALWAYS KEEP ONE EYE OPEN BABE^+^

 

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  posted on 11/12/2013 at 08:23 PM
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"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."


I like dat

 

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  posted on 11/12/2013 at 10:48 PM
Have you met Gina and Jerryphilbob yet? They believe all the crazy conspiracy theories too.
 

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  posted on 11/13/2013 at 12:51 AM
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Have you met Gina and Jerryphilbob yet? They believe all the crazy conspiracy theories too.


hopeless case with some of ya'll.Blind as a bat^^?^^

 

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  posted on 11/13/2013 at 02:03 PM
It sure sounds crazy, but, I've also spent several hours checking the skies. Some things just don't look quite right at times.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2013 at 09:01 PM
they are not smoking what you are

 

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  posted on 11/13/2013 at 09:23 PM
I have yet to see any evidence whatsoever that what people call chemtrails are nothing more than regular contrails. Yes, some contrails last longer - it's called varying atmospheric conditions. Yes, they form parallel patterns - it is called flight patterns to keep planes separated. I have yet to hear any scientist evidence at all that chemtrails exist.

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  posted on 11/17/2013 at 01:18 PM
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Have you met Gina and Jerryphilbob yet? They believe all the crazy conspiracy theories too.


Don't make me put up the links that show the stuff that is in those chemtrails. And yes Luke, they are in denial because they need to feel safe and in control. To admit that there are things going on by dastardly people is too unsettling for many. By this point in time Luke, those who were meant to know the truth, know the truth, the others have had their hearts and minds sealed. You are probably one of the 144,000 who were meant to be woken up Luke. Be thankful for that, and let the rest of them perish. Their destinies were decreed even before they were born. None of our good intentions to enlighten them will work.

 

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  posted on 11/17/2013 at 01:23 PM
Denial not just a river in egypt.

 

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  posted on 11/17/2013 at 04:11 PM
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Don't make me put up the links that show the stuff that is in those chemtrails. And yes Luke, they are in denial because they need to feel safe and in control. To admit that there are things going on by dastardly people is too unsettling for many. By this point in time Luke, those who were meant to know the truth, know the truth, the others have had their hearts and minds sealed. You are probably one of the 144,000 who were meant to be woken up Luke. Be thankful for that, and let the rest of them perish. Their destinies were decreed even before they were born. None of our good intentions to enlighten them will work.


Random Youtube links and blogs are not scientific evidence.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2013 at 07:58 AM
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Don't make me put up the links that show the stuff that is in those chemtrails. And yes Luke, they are in denial because they need to feel safe and in control. To admit that there are things going on by dastardly people is too unsettling for many. By this point in time Luke, those who were meant to know the truth, know the truth, the others have had their hearts and minds sealed. You are probably one of the 144,000 who were meant to be woken up Luke. Be thankful for that, and let the rest of them perish. Their destinies were decreed even before they were born. None of our good intentions to enlighten them will work.


 

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  posted on 11/18/2013 at 01:16 PM
I am not co-signing any opinion regarding this topic, but one must consider that most scientists get research money from the government in one form or another. So why would one bite the hand that feeds them ? Much less ruin a hope/chance of future grants by offering up a contradiction to something those with the cash may or may not be doing ? Just saying

 

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  posted on 11/18/2013 at 01:23 PM
oh yeah? who sent you?
 

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  posted on 11/18/2013 at 01:51 PM
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oh yeah? who sent you?


nobody special

 

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  posted on 11/18/2013 at 03:48 PM
Well, this I can tell you. I am a geologist who specializes in environmental contamination studies. I mostly work for property owners, property sellers, etc. Very little direct government work, so I have no incentive to be bias. I look at analytical data for soil every single day. Part of what I do is I compare analytical data for contaminants in soil from data collected today to data collected years ago (often as far back as the '80s). The reason I do this is to determine whether soil will require cleanup, and if it does, provide a cost for soil remediation and do the actual cleanup. Many of the open land assessments I do involve analysis for metals, pesticides, herbicides, and other compounds. I can tell you that I have NEVER seen an unexplained increase in concentrations of anything. When I've seen increases in lead, it is usually in an area with lead paint. If there is an increase in pesticides, it is because they use pesticides. Same thing with any other metal or compound. If chemtrails were real, we should see surface soil metal concentrations rising everywhere without explanation, but they aren't. I'm constantly hearing that chemtrails contain barium, yet I look at barium concentrations in surface soil all the time and I hardly ever seen high barium concentrations in soil, and when I do there is always a reasonable explanation. So, where is the evidence?
 

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  posted on 11/18/2013 at 06:25 PM
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So, where is the evidence?


Well... I was outside the Meadowlands partying before a Grateful Dead show when George Bush the 1st was in office. He got pissed because traffic caused by Deadheads slowed down his convoy. Later that afternoon a slow moving cargo plane flew over the parking lot dropping droplets of liquid on the gathered crowd. What was that huh? Huh? How's that for proof.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2013 at 08:20 PM
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explanation. So, where is the evidence?



I see where you're comin from but I doubt that your lab does a test to isolate every compound, chemical and element out there. It isn't cost effective to do so and I say you mostly look for carcinogens so a pre-existing situation can be determined for liability concerns. I am not a physicist/biologist (or whatever) by no means but even I know that gas reacts with gas differently on the molecular level than say a gas with a liquid and/or a compound.. Then of course by the time something released up in that cold environment is gonna change by the time it reacts with the higher temperatures found at ground level.(heat has the tendency to do that) Ya know it only takes a few degrees difference to have a weather system either dissipate or strengthen.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2013 at 09:50 PM
What we usually do is a CAN 17 analysis. That is the 17 heavy metals, and we sometimes add aluminum as wdll. Metals don't change with tempuraturs, they are not volatile and they do not get broken down biologically. They accumulate, so if metals were falking from the sky the concentrations in surface soil should go up everywhere. This does not happen. Everywhere you see increases in metals we can pinpoint a reason - mines, paint, highways, plating shops, etc. If it was falling from the sky we should see concentrations rise from baselines everywhere without any obvious causes. We don't see that.
 

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  posted on 11/19/2013 at 12:17 PM
thanks for the info....

17 elements, roughly leaves about a hundred or so more they "could" be utilizing in the trails, That of course is if they even are doing so.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2013 at 10:06 PM
the evidence is growing in Luke's backyard, residue is in the pipe

 

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  posted on 11/23/2013 at 11:42 PM
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Well, this I can tell you. I am a geologist who specializes in environmental contamination studies. I mostly work for property owners, property sellers, etc. Very little direct government work, so I have no incentive to be bias. I look at analytical data for soil every single day. Part of what I do is I compare analytical data for contaminants in soil from data collected today to data collected years ago (often as far back as the '80s). The reason I do this is to determine whether soil will require cleanup, and if it does, provide a cost for soil remediation and do the actual cleanup. Many of the open land assessments I do involve analysis for metals, pesticides, herbicides, and other compounds. I can tell you that I have NEVER seen an unexplained increase in concentrations of anything. When I've seen increases in lead, it is usually in an area with lead paint. If there is an increase in pesticides, it is because they use pesticides. Same thing with any other metal or compound. If chemtrails were real, we should see surface soil metal concentrations rising everywhere without explanation, but they aren't. I'm constantly hearing that chemtrails contain barium, yet I look at barium concentrations in surface soil all the time and I hardly ever seen high barium concentrations in soil, and when I do there is always a reasonable explanation. So, where is the evidence?


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  posted on 11/23/2013 at 11:43 PM
Let's assume for a moment there are chem trails, fema camps, etc. What exactly are we supposed to do about it?

 

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