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  posted on 12/21/2012 at 05:29 PM
or is the media even more active in covering shootings. There has been over a dozen shootings here in this part of the CA in the last few days. A Marine got shot at on the freeway. A Hoax gun threat happened at San Jose Community College. 4 people shot in Oakland several in SF....that's just in the last few days. The police in my city barricaded an apartment complex...is the talk of serious gun control sending the wackadoo with guns off the handle knowing they won't be able to purchase at gun shows anymore without a background check so why not just go ahead and shoot away now...

 

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  posted on 12/21/2012 at 05:55 PM
It seems that way to me. Around here there are definitely more stories about someone getting shot, schools receiving theats, etc and now the yahoo at the NRA thinks the answer to the problem is to arm the teachers. Really? They're beyond sane reasoning and it's all because they're shilling for the gun manufacturers who want to sell more weapons.

 

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  posted on 12/21/2012 at 06:11 PM
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It seems that way to me. Around here there are definitely more stories about someone getting shot, schools receiving theats, etc and now the yahoo at the NRA thinks the answer to the problem is to arm the teachers. Really? They're beyond sane reasoning and it's all because they're shilling for the gun manufacturers who want to sell more weapons.


“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre said at a news conference in Washington. LaPierre called on Congress “to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation.”

The above quote from an article today on Wayne Lapierre. I can only imagine a dysfunctional Republican House Of Reps. who want to cut spending now wanting to find the funding to support Lapierre's recommendation.




 

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  posted on 12/21/2012 at 07:52 PM
I agree with the first sentence but that is it I DO NOT believe the answer is armed gaurds in our schools.
 

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  posted on 12/21/2012 at 08:18 PM
They want the freedom to have any weapon they want....I wouldn't bother with a rifle....I want a freeking tank....I'd paint it candy apple red and put a flame job on it and chrome the treads....

I have no problem with someone having a handgun or a hunting rifle....I'm not anti gun...I don't want one but I understand people that want to hunt or feel the need to protect their families. I also understand it's a tool for those who live in rural areas of the country but you don't need a military grade weapon to go hunting. Just like a tank there are rifles that the general public shouldn't have.

 

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  posted on 12/21/2012 at 09:04 PM
In case you missed it...


As the NRA wrapped up their press conference today, a shooting in a church: 4 dead, 3 state troopers injured ... status quo: unacceptable ...

Woman decorating church 1 of 3 shooting victims
State police say they killed a man after he shot three people in Blair County.

HOLLIDAYSBURG, Pa. (AP) — A man fatally shot a woman decorating for a children's Christmas party at a tiny church hall and killed two men elsewhere in a rural central Pennsylvania township Friday before he was fatally shot in a gunfight with state troopers.

http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-four-dead-pa-shooting-20121221,0,1261


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  posted on 12/21/2012 at 09:08 PM
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I agree with the first sentence but that is it I DO NOT believe the answer is armed gaurds in our schools.


How can you agree with the first sentence and say that is not the answer?? The first sentence is the NRA's (completely misguided) agruement that it IS the answer! Arm the teachers, yeah that's the ticket!!

For those who want to talk about freedoms, how about those of us who would prefer to live with freedom FROM guns? I submit that it is the NRA that wants to take our freedom and force us to live in armed camps so they can play with their toys.



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  posted on 12/21/2012 at 10:17 PM
I guess the answer to gun violence is more guns. Makes perfect sense.
 

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  posted on 12/22/2012 at 08:09 AM
Apparently, the NRA plans to solve the Fiscal Cliff problem by creating more jobs with an armed security guard (not teacher) in every school in the country paid for by whatever allocations necessary from federal and state governments. Why stop there? Are we only going to protect children in schools? What about shopping malls and places of worship for all religions? And let's not forget grocery stores where Giffords was shot.
 

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  posted on 12/22/2012 at 08:32 AM
Do you think he NRA realizes that there were not one but TWO armed law enforcement agents present at Columbine High School during the assault by Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold that left 15 dead and 23 wounded? They twice engaged and fired at Eric Harris in an effort to stop the shooting, but were unsuccessful because they were outgunned by the military assault weapons with high capacity magazine clips wielded by the two teens.

 

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  posted on 12/22/2012 at 03:09 PM
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Do you think he NRA realizes that there were not one but TWO armed law enforcement agents present at Columbine High School during the assault by Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold that left 15 dead and 23 wounded? They twice engaged and fired at Eric Harris in an effort to stop the shooting, but were unsuccessful because they were outgunned by the military assault weapons with high capacity magazine clips wielded by the two teens.


Guess not or they were hoping the media would overlook that point.

 

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  posted on 12/22/2012 at 04:23 PM
There were also armed personnel at Virginia Tech. That didn't work out so well either.

 

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  posted on 12/22/2012 at 04:36 PM
An armed cop in every school in the nation????? Last time I looked all of these shootings don't just happen in schools. So that's armed cops at every school, at every movie theater, at every gathering like the Gabby Giffords one, at every post office, at every work place. Lots of cop and security jobs. Do you know that there were two armed guards at Columbine when that shooting happened???? A lot of good they did. Also, who is gonna pay for these thousands of armed police jobs???? I thought those on the right are against raising taxes for the government to spend????

I have an idea. How about all gun owners having to pay a tax each year for the priviledge of owning a gun. Just like home owners insurance. They can pay ex amount each year for each gun they own and that can pay for the increased armed security everywhere in society. Sounds fair to me. They want to protect their gun rights and also want to have armed guards everywhere then let them pay for it.

 

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  posted on 12/22/2012 at 05:10 PM
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An armed cop in every school in the nation????? Last time I looked all of these shootings don't just happen in schools. So that's armed cops at every school, at every movie theater, at every gathering like the Gabby Giffords one, at every post office, at every work place. Lots of cop and security jobs. Do you know that there were two armed guards at Columbine when that shooting happened???? A lot of good they did. Also, who is gonna pay for these thousands of armed police jobs???? I thought those on the right are against raising taxes for the government to spend????

I have an idea. How about all gun owners having to pay a tax each year for the priviledge of owning a gun. Just like home owners insurance. They can pay ex amount each year for each gun they own and that can pay for the increased armed security everywhere in society. Sounds fair to me. They want to protect their gun rights and also want to have armed guards everywhere then let them pay for it.



I totally agree with your idea! How totally unAmerican of us.

 

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  posted on 12/22/2012 at 06:00 PM
From today's NY Times editorial page: "we were stunned by Mr. LaPierre’s mendacious, delusional, almost deranged rant."

My son is in 6th grade, there is no way I want MORE guns anywhere, especially in public schools. I shuddered when I read the comments from the NRA.

 

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  posted on 12/22/2012 at 06:34 PM
There are those out there who believe they are so important that there must be someone plotting to get them and they must at every moment be at the ready.....These are also the same people who drive around you on the right side of the freeway at 110 while texting on their cell phone then they weave back into traffic looking for the next whole to dash through because they have some where to go and the rest of us are just out F%^&*()ing around.

Most are paranoid about tyrannical government, the low life immigrants taking good American jobs...Yeah picking lettuce in the central valley....They dig bunkers and buy RTEM...they go play army up in the mountains preparing for the end of the world like we'd be any better if they were left to span the next generation of survivors

They think that to solve the problem is having the ability to raise the level of violence higher than the next person.

Wow what an achievement to have the ability to take the violence to a higher level.....That's I guess what we should aspire to....

 

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  posted on 12/22/2012 at 06:51 PM
The NRA is the Superpac for Gun and ammo Manufacturers. Having Wayne Lapierre comment on this is like having a Taliban spokesman comment on womens rights or an Iraqi Mullah on Israeli security. They absolutely couldn't care less if there are more mass shootings. Their only concern is selling more guns. That is how they make their living, at the expense of public safety.

 

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  posted on 12/22/2012 at 06:58 PM
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I agree with the first sentence but that is it I DO NOT believe the answer is armed gaurds in our schools.


How can you agree with the first sentence and say that is not the answer?? The first sentence is the NRA's (completely misguided) agruement that it IS the answer! Arm the teachers, yeah that's the ticket!!

For those who want to talk about freedoms, how about those of us who would prefer to live with freedom FROM guns? I submit that it is the NRA that wants to take our freedom and force us to live in armed camps so they can play with their toys.



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Well since you asked I do believe you need a gun to stop a gun oriented crime I certainly would not try with a baseball bat, nor would i stand by with my cellphone trying to call the cops while some sick SOB is shooting people I suggest if you do not want to live in a country with guns MOVE! If that is the case you must not believe in the Constitution or in this country, as this country was founded with guns not by singing Kumbye ya or wishing we were in Utopia how many farmers and plain old poor folks lost their lives to give you the freedom to sit on this forum and voice your views.. or did you not read about this countries history?

I have read alot about this countries history my ancestors were also conquered by guns and yes many atrocities have been done with a gun but also many good things have been done and I believe the formation of this country where the people had the freedom that we have is a good thing.

 

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  posted on 12/22/2012 at 09:33 PM
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It seems that way to me. Around here there are definitely more stories about someone getting shot, schools receiving theats, etc and now the yahoo at the NRA thinks the answer to the problem is to arm the teachers. Really? They're beyond sane reasoning and it's all because they're shilling for the gun manufacturers who want to sell more weapons.


And what press conference were you watching. I never heard anything from him about arming the teachers. I did hear him say "certified, trained armed officers"

So if you can't show where he said that, please don't keep posting it.

 

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There are those out there who believe they are so important that there must be someone plotting to get them and they must at every moment be at the ready.....These are also the same people who drive around you on the right side of the freeway at 110 while texting on their cell phone then they weave back into traffic looking for the next whole to dash through because they have some where to go and the rest of us are just out F%^&*()ing around.

Most are paranoid about tyrannical government, the low life immigrants taking good American jobs...Yeah picking lettuce in the central valley....They dig bunkers and buy RTEM...they go play army up in the mountains preparing for the end of the world like we'd be any better if they were left to span the next generation of survivors

They think that to solve the problem is having the ability to raise the level of violence higher than the next person.

Wow what an achievement to have the ability to take the violence to a higher level.....That's I guess what we should aspire to....




Let's just hope that those you describe are thinned out in one car accidents while they're speeding, texting, and weaving around.

 

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  posted on 12/22/2012 at 10:00 PM
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It seems that way to me. Around here there are definitely more stories about someone getting shot, schools receiving theats, etc and now the yahoo at the NRA thinks the answer to the problem is to arm the teachers. Really? They're beyond sane reasoning and it's all because they're shilling for the gun manufacturers who want to sell more weapons.


And what press conference were you watching. I never heard anything from him about arming the teachers. I did hear him say "certified, trained armed officers"

So if you can't show where he said that, please don't keep posting it.


I will post what I want, when I want and as often as I want. If someone doesn't like it....don't read it.

 

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It seems that way to me. Around here there are definitely more stories about someone getting shot, schools receiving theats, etc and now the yahoo at the NRA thinks the answer to the problem is to arm the teachers. Really? They're beyond sane reasoning and it's all because they're shilling for the gun manufacturers who want to sell more weapons.


And what press conference were you watching. I never heard anything from him about arming the teachers. I did hear him say "certified, trained armed officers"

So if you can't show where he said that, please don't keep posting it.


I will post what I want, when I want and as often as I want. If someone doesn't like it....don't read it.



Ohhhh.I guess I'll just have to correct you each time you post something false then.

 

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  posted on 12/23/2012 at 12:17 AM
If you think that's necessary then go for it.

 

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  posted on 12/23/2012 at 11:51 AM
Read the line about the third bar patron and we should all then understand why we shouldn't have guns in public places

There have been 400+ reported shooting since Newtown

What is wrong with this country......it's unacceptable

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BRANDON, Fla. (AP) — Authorities say an argument at a Tampa Bay-area bar over a woman's lost purse led to a shooting that left one man dead and two others injured.

The Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office says the purse belonged to the girlfriend of Louis Kuilan-Maysonet.

Authorities say the argument early Saturday continued outside the Boomerang Martini Bar in Brandon, where Kuilan-Maysonet shot another man several times. Meanwhile, a security guard saw the shooting and fired his own gun several times, shooting Kuilan-Maysonet.

The sheriff's office says a third bar patron who had nothing to do with either confrontation was shot in the leg. It was unclear who shot him.

Kuilan-Maysonet died at a hospital. The two other men were hospitalized.

Authorities say the security guard had a valid concealed weapons permit.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Shooting-outside-Fla-bar-leaves-1- dead-2-injured-4141615.php#ixzz2FtWEG4T1

 

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  posted on 12/23/2012 at 02:14 PM
Nothing like that could ever go wrong in a classroom with ever one carrying guns could it.

 

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