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  posted on 11/5/2012 at 05:32 AM
Just kidding.

There has been zero talk on what seats need to be won in order to secure the votes to even make such a thing a reality. I might be wrong, but I have seen zero talk on what seats would need to be won and where the Republicrats have the best chance to win these seats and secure the votes to repeal Obamacare. Your entitlement program is safe even if Romney wins, hell, he damn near was the godfather of Obamacare.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. If nothing changes, nothing changes. Keep Drinking America !!!

 

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  posted on 11/5/2012 at 05:38 AM
Same ole same ole......

 

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  posted on 11/5/2012 at 08:00 AM
Another day another dollar

 

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  posted on 11/5/2012 at 08:00 AM
SSDD

 

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  posted on 11/5/2012 at 08:01 AM

 

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  posted on 11/5/2012 at 08:02 AM
To infinity and beyond!

 

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  posted on 11/5/2012 at 10:47 AM

Your complaint is that nothing changes no matter who is in office? Yet, the title of your thread demonstrates that is not entirely true.

1) The most comprehensive healthcare reform legislation in decades that several previous administrations have sought to tackle only to concede to gridlock, etc., is now in place. It has flaws, but it is a start.

2) Despite the unprecedented lack of cooperation in congress, the President also made executive orders protecting illegal residents that were born and raised in this country and have contributed to this country's economy, been educated here, and know no other home.

3) Border security has never been tighter, and this administration has deported more undocumented criminals than any before.

4) Although leaving it for the individual states to manage, the President continued to push civil liberties in the right direction by the unprecedented vocal support for gay marriage.

5) He signed bills into law that regulate lenders, offering reasonable relief to hardworking people with large student debt and difficult mortgage situations, etc.

6) He kept the legal, and PR pressure on BP and associated companies to deal with and pay for the recovery effort in the gulf after the oil spill.....making the companies accountable and saving the US tons of $$$. In the past, we've been too ready to pick up the tab for Oil company blunders.


And this is not meant to be a list of Obama's accomplishments, as that would be much longer. I just wanted to pull aside a few things that are markedly different than anything to come from the office of the president in many, many, years. Change can be slow, because it is a two party system of government. But progress happens while conservatives scratch and claw and cling to the status qua due to fear; God, xenophobia, homophobia, socialism, sex, terrorists, big brother, the fiscal apocalypse, you name it. The logical contradictions embedded in the resistance to progress will boggle the mind.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2012 at 12:15 PM
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Your complaint is that nothing changes no matter who is in office? Yet, the title of your thread demonstrates that is not entirely true.

1) The most comprehensive healthcare reform legislation in decades that several previous administrations have sought to tackle only to concede to gridlock, etc., is now in place. It has flaws, but it is a start.

2) Despite the unprecedented lack of cooperation in congress, the President also made executive orders protecting illegal residents that were born and raised in this country and have contributed to this country's economy, been educated here, and know no other home.

3) Border security has never been tighter, and this administration has deported more undocumented criminals than any before.

4) Although leaving it for the individual states to manage, the President continued to push civil liberties in the right direction by the unprecedented vocal support for gay marriage.

5) He signed bills into law that regulate lenders, offering reasonable relief to hardworking people with large student debt and difficult mortgage situations, etc.

6) He kept the legal, and PR pressure on BP and associated companies to deal with and pay for the recovery effort in the gulf after the oil spill.....making the companies accountable and saving the US tons of $$$. In the past, we've been too ready to pick up the tab for Oil company blunders.


And this is not meant to be a list of Obama's accomplishments, as that would be much longer. I just wanted to pull aside a few things that are markedly different than anything to come from the office of the president in many, many, years. Change can be slow, because it is a two party system of government. But progress happens while conservatives scratch and claw and cling to the status qua due to fear; God, xenophobia, homophobia, socialism, sex, terrorists, big brother, the fiscal apocalypse, you name it. The logical contradictions embedded in the resistance to progress will boggle the mind.


I'm Barrack Obama and I approve this message......

 

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  posted on 11/5/2012 at 05:54 PM
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Your complaint is that nothing changes no matter who is in office? Yet, the title of your thread demonstrates that is not entirely true.

1) The most comprehensive healthcare reform legislation in decades that several previous administrations have sought to tackle only to concede to gridlock, etc., is now in place. It has flaws, but it is a start.

2) Despite the unprecedented lack of cooperation in congress, the President also made executive orders protecting illegal residents that were born and raised in this country and have contributed to this country's economy, been educated here, and know no other home.

3) Border security has never been tighter, and this administration has deported more undocumented criminals than any before.

4) Although leaving it for the individual states to manage, the President continued to push civil liberties in the right direction by the unprecedented vocal support for gay marriage.

5) He signed bills into law that regulate lenders, offering reasonable relief to hardworking people with large student debt and difficult mortgage situations, etc.

6) He kept the legal, and PR pressure on BP and associated companies to deal with and pay for the recovery effort in the gulf after the oil spill.....making the companies accountable and saving the US tons of $$$. In the past, we've been too ready to pick up the tab for Oil company blunders.


And this is not meant to be a list of Obama's accomplishments, as that would be much longer. I just wanted to pull aside a few things that are markedly different than anything to come from the office of the president in many, many, years. Change can be slow, because it is a two party system of government. But progress happens while conservatives scratch and claw and cling to the status qua due to fear; God, xenophobia, homophobia, socialism, sex, terrorists, big brother, the fiscal apocalypse, you name it. The logical contradictions embedded in the resistance to progress will boggle the mind.


Well said. Thank You.


 

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  posted on 11/5/2012 at 05:55 PM
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Your complaint is that nothing changes no matter who is in office? Yet, the title of your thread demonstrates that is not entirely true.

1) The most comprehensive healthcare reform legislation in decades that several previous administrations have sought to tackle only to concede to gridlock, etc., is now in place. It has flaws, but it is a start.

2) Despite the unprecedented lack of cooperation in congress, the President also made executive orders protecting illegal residents that were born and raised in this country and have contributed to this country's economy, been educated here, and know no other home.

3) Border security has never been tighter, and this administration has deported more undocumented criminals than any before.

4) Although leaving it for the individual states to manage, the President continued to push civil liberties in the right direction by the unprecedented vocal support for gay marriage.

5) He signed bills into law that regulate lenders, offering reasonable relief to hardworking people with large student debt and difficult mortgage situations, etc.

6) He kept the legal, and PR pressure on BP and associated companies to deal with and pay for the recovery effort in the gulf after the oil spill.....making the companies accountable and saving the US tons of $$$. In the past, we've been too ready to pick up the tab for Oil company blunders.


And this is not meant to be a list of Obama's accomplishments, as that would be much longer. I just wanted to pull aside a few things that are markedly different than anything to come from the office of the president in many, many, years. Change can be slow, because it is a two party system of government. But progress happens while conservatives scratch and claw and cling to the status qua due to fear; God, xenophobia, homophobia, socialism, sex, terrorists, big brother, the fiscal apocalypse, you name it. The logical contradictions embedded in the resistance to progress will boggle the mind.


Well said. Thank You.





Agree. Very well stated. Good job.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2012 at 10:28 PM
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But progress happens while conservatives scratch and claw and cling to the status qua due to fear; God, xenophobia, homophobia, socialism, sex, terrorists, big brother, the fiscal apocalypse, you name it. The logical contradictions embedded in the resistance to progress will boggle the mind.


In other words, a person should cast aside deeply held beliefs and/or moral compass, and instead acquiece to what others consider "progress?" It may come as a shock, but many folks possess that strong moral compass which guides their beliefs. Is that so mind-boggling?

 

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  posted on 11/5/2012 at 10:54 PM
That's fine. Just don't impose them on everyone else.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2012 at 11:09 PM
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That's fine. Just don't impose them on everyone else.


While there's no limit to what gets imposed on them.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2012 at 11:57 PM
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That's fine. Just don't impose them on everyone else.


While there's no limit to what gets imposed on them.



Another classic by alloak1........ any examples?

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 01:20 AM
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But progress happens while conservatives scratch and claw and cling to the status qua due to fear; God, xenophobia, homophobia, socialism, sex, terrorists, big brother, the fiscal apocalypse, you name it. The logical contradictions embedded in the resistance to progress will boggle the mind.


In other words, a person should cast aside deeply held beliefs and/or moral compass, and instead acquiece to what others consider "progress?" It may come as a shock, but many folks possess that strong moral compass which guides their beliefs. Is that so mind-boggling?


I would love for Americans to cast off some of their most "deeply" held beliefs. Those that are most likely handed down from an era that is no more, those that are unexamined, and those based in myth or false romantic notions of earlier generations, only serve to hold us back from a more perfect union. My notions for progress are rooted in my own moral compass; ethics grounded in reason, education, compassion, and humanity.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 10:34 AM


+1

Progressives to the LEFT, Neocons to the RIGHT, and Americans are stuck in the middle again without a clear voice for them. Both parties have been hijiacked by the corporations and bankers and yet we keep electing these same cocsuckers over and over again.

Damn Americans are stupid .

At least I am not emotionally tied to either party and could care less who wins, America is the big loser either way.

Vote for me and I will set you free ....
Vote for me and I will end the wars ....
Vote for me and I will improve education for your kids ....
Vote for me and I will get you a job ...

SUCKERS !!!!








[Edited on 11/6/2012 by jerryphilbob]

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 12:31 PM
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That's fine. Just don't impose them on everyone else.


While there's no limit to what gets imposed on them.



Another classic by alloak1........ any examples?


God, it's hard to even know where to start with this one. How bout higher prices?

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/20/opinion/mcdonald-corn-ethanol/index.html

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 01:05 PM
So what does the price of food due to a bad corn crop and the ethanol mandate have to do with "folks possess that strong moral compass which guides their beliefs"

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 01:18 PM
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So what does the price of food due to a bad corn crop and the ethanol mandate have to do with "folks possess that strong moral compass which guides their beliefs"


And the sudden confusion syndrome kicks in. Go back to your posts at 23:54 and 00:57. That should clear things up for you. Biofuels are a progressive wet dream, and they put an IMPOSITION on everyone. You wanted an example.

[Edited on 11/6/2012 by alloak41]

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 01:26 PM
That's funny - your post at 11:28, and my response at 11:54 had to do with their "deeply held beliefs and/or moral compass" ..... not sure how you twisted it into something else.......


I didn't know biofuels were part of some deeply held beliefs or moral compass...... but I don't get out to the Bible Belt that often........

 

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That's funny - your post at 11:28, and my response at 11:54 had to do with their "deeply held beliefs and/or moral compass" ..... not sure how you twisted it into something else.......



Sorry, but it's not that difficult to follow the flow of the conversation. If I follow your line of thinking, those with morals should not impose them on anybody else (as you stated), but progressives should be able to impose whatever they want. (of which you wanted an example).

As a suggestion, maybe you wouldn't get so mixed up if you didn't butt into a conversation between two other posters, then act like you're all confused. We've seen this tactic of yours before.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 01:46 PM
I didn't say anything at all about "progressives"....... nor did anyone else, unless you count that vanistheman mentioned "progress happens"...... so only progressives believe in progress?

Maybe if you weren't so obtuse all the time, people could figure out what the hell you are responding to..... biofuels is a progressive wet dream? Where the hell did that come from? I bet everybody saw that one coming.........

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 01:52 PM
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I didn't say anything at all about "progressives"....... nor did anyone else, unless you count that vanistheman mentioned "progress happens"...... so only progressives believe in progress?

Maybe if you weren't so obtuse all the time, people could figure out what the hell you are responding to..... biofuels is a progressive wet dream? Where the hell did that come from? I bet everybody saw that one coming.........


I'm moving on. Doesn't seem like a real confusing conversation to follow, but whatever...Have a nice one.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2012 at 09:27 PM
Romney has won. I am not watching but my fam had it on. I am going to bed. Up early tomorrow for work because I have to pay high taxes, work hard, and die.
My contribution to the USA.
Middle -class worker, HARD worker.
I do not want to watch this projections until it is all over tomorrow morning . I will check, maybe CNN , to see who is the PofTUSA.



To answer your thread, yes, Nat. Health Care Plan will be repealed if Romeny wins.
That is a promise he will keep.

So be it.

 
 


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