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  posted on 8/4/2012 at 04:03 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/08/01/625801/republicans-increase-ta xes-military-families/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

 

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  posted on 8/5/2012 at 08:33 AM
I've never understood why any military families would support any GOP candidates when all they talk about is cutting government programs, many of which are military and VA related and will ultimately hurt them.

 

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  posted on 8/5/2012 at 09:01 AM
Aside from the headline, the article does nothing to show how military families are singled out by any contents of the bill. Probabaly because they aren't.
 

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Aside from the headline, the article does nothing to show how military families are singled out by any contents of the bill. Probabaly because they aren't.


House Republicans just won't be happy until the wealthiest 1% have all the money.

 

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  posted on 8/5/2012 at 06:49 PM
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http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/08/01/625801/republicans-incre ase-taxes-military-families/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook



Your thread title is intentionally misleading - crafted in order to fit your political bias I presume. I read the entire bill. Nothing in there about the military.




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Aside from the headline, the article does nothing to show how military families are singled out by any contents of the bill. Probabaly because they aren't.


House Republicans just won't be happy until the wealthiest 1% have all the money.



And the Senate and POTUS won't be happy until they have turned us all into **** ing Greece....



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  posted on 8/5/2012 at 06:56 PM
The bill effects the military....as for turning us all into Greece.....what a dumba$$ comment.

 

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Your thread title is intentionally misleading - crafted in order to fit your political bias I presume. I read the entire bill. Nothing in there about the military.


For those with reading difficulties....

A corporal (E4) in the marines with four years of of service, who is married and has two children would see a tax increase of $448 under HR 8.

A military police staff sergeant (E5) in the Air Force with eight years' service, with a spouse and three youg children at home, would see a tax increase of $1,118 under HR 8.

A private in the U.S. Army (E1) in his first year of service, who is married with an infant child, would see a $273 tax increase under the Republican plan.

Duh.

 

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  posted on 8/5/2012 at 07:04 PM
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The bill effects the military....as for turning us all into Greece.....what a dumba$$ comment.


Thanks for your thoughts, but kindly gfy. I don't think I have ever said one rude thing to you, and you have the nerve to call me a dumbass? Go read your OM thread you hypocrite.


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  posted on 8/5/2012 at 07:06 PM
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Your thread title is intentionally misleading - crafted in order to fit your political bias I presume. I read the entire bill. Nothing in there about the military.


For those with reading difficulties....

A corporal (E4) in the marines with four years of of service, who is married and has two children would see a tax increase of $448 under HR 8.

A military police staff sergeant (E5) in the Air Force with eight years' service, with a spouse and three youg children at home, would see a tax increase of $1,118 under HR 8.

A private in the U.S. Army (E1) in his first year of service, who is married with an infant child, would see a $273 tax increase under the Republican plan.

Duh.



Go to the PDF of the bill and show me where the military is brought into question. As my original quote said, I read the entire bill and nothing in there about the military.

Duh back, Princess...




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  posted on 8/5/2012 at 10:14 PM
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Your thread title is intentionally misleading - crafted in order to fit your political bias I presume. I read the entire bill. Nothing in there about the military.


For those with reading difficulties....

A corporal (E4) in the marines with four years of of service, who is married and has two children would see a tax increase of $448 under HR 8.

A military police staff sergeant (E5) in the Air Force with eight years' service, with a spouse and three youg children at home, would see a tax increase of $1,118 under HR 8.

A private in the U.S. Army (E1) in his first year of service, who is married with an infant child, would see a $273 tax increase under the Republican plan.

Duh.



Go to the PDF of the bill and show me where the military is brought into question. As my original quote said, I read the entire bill and nothing in there about the military.

Duh back, Princess...




Mike



Dayum, those silly facts got in the way again......... But then again, it's thinkprogr....zzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

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The bill effects the military....as for turning us all into Greece.....what a dumba$$ comment.


Thanks for your thoughts, but kindly gfy. I don't think I have ever said one rude thing to you, and you have the nerve to call me a dumbass? Go read your OM thread you hypocrite.


Mike


I didn't call you a dumba$$....I said what a dumba$$ comment. I mean you might actually be a dumba$$ but I don't know that for a fact...I do, however, have an opinion about the comment. As for the gfy.....thank you for caring.

 

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  posted on 8/5/2012 at 10:31 PM
Oh, and by the way, that was two personal slams from you to my none....if anyone's counting.

 

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  posted on 8/6/2012 at 02:08 AM
An unfortunate reality is that a lot of people are entering the military entitlement purposes and life time employment. I personally believe that housing allowances, separate rations and family medical care should not be permitted until the pay grade of E-5 is achieved or one is on their second enlistment. Until that incoming service members should live in the barracks and consume their meals in designated dinning facilities. Single females that get pregnant on their first enlistment should be chaptered out and at females at sea or in hostile fire zones court-martialed and denied benefits after discharge. Currents trends and practices are a burden on unit readiness and negatively impact morale which stresses senior NCO's and Officers.

 

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An unfortunate reality is that a lot of people are entering the military entitlement purposes and life time employment. I personally believe that housing allowances, separate rations and family medical care should not be permitted until the pay grade of E-5 is achieved or one is on their second enlistment. Until that incoming service members should live in the barracks and consume their meals in designated dinning facilities. Single females that get pregnant on their first enlistment should be chaptered out and at females at sea or in hostile fire zones court-martialed and denied benefits after discharge. Currents trends and practices are a burden on unit readiness and negatively impact morale which stresses senior NCO's and Officers.


I agree with you on most everything you wrote except for court-martialing single women who get pregnent unless you plan to court-martial and discharge the men who impregnated them also. In addition, I also think an exception should be made for females who become pregnant after being raped by another soldier.

 

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Agreed, and yes, I am still appalled to this day in the way the military handles sexual assault cases. My old SF team Sergeant's fiancée was raped by her Platoon Sergeant in Panama, she then went to she a Primary Care Provider to seek help. He then drugged and raped her. They then put the blame on her and since the PCP was an officer, they quickly processed him orders, and then conveniently whisked him out of country. The Platoon Sergeant was cleared of all charges until six month's later he was arrested for raping a Panamanian National. The young lady in question had no alternative to go AWOL in the U.S. and turned herself in. She tried to hang herself and then tried to open her wrists while in custody. My Team Sergeant went through hell and she never fully recovered. I had another Team Sergeant who's son was forcibly sodomized by a First Sergeant with whom he played tennis. The Army then conveniently processed his retirement papers and prosecution never occurred. The only reciprocity achieved was that we blew up his BMW. Unfortunately he was not in it at the time of detonation (we made sure no one was hurt).

 

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Go to the PDF of the bill and show me where the military is brought into question. As my original quote said, I read the entire bill and nothing in there about the military. Duh back, Princess...

Mike


HR8 fails to extend the Child Tax Credit and Earned Income Tax Credit improvements, and thus, military and non-military families with similar incomes would face a tax increase.
Duh back at ya, Mr. Derpmeister.

 

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  posted on 8/6/2012 at 04:28 PM
The only reciprocity achieved was that we blew up his BMW. Unfortunately he was not in it at the time of detonation (we made sure no one was hurt).

Well played!

 

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  posted on 8/6/2012 at 10:19 PM
I don't have a reading problem. Thanks for posting.

Peach, why do people vote for things and people that will hurt them, that go against them and their fam/freinds/neighbors/socio-econ groups, beats me!!!!!!

Scott, I agree sexual crimes etc. within nthe military by officers, male, female, should be addressed pronto. Zero tolerance.
I disagree about people being on a probationary time period of a certain grade or years while enlisted until they see financial benefits.

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Aside from the headline, the article does nothing to show how military families are singled out by any contents of the bill. Probabaly because they aren't.


House Republicans just won't be happy until the wealthiest 1% have all the money.



And the Senate and POTUS won't be happy until they have turned us all into **** ing Greece....



Mike


Talk about lack of original thought......

 

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The Army then conveniently processed his retirement papers and prosecution never occurred. The only reciprocity achieved was that we blew up his BMW. Unfortunately he was not in it at the time of detonation (we made sure no one was hurt).


Did you use the old Polaroid batteries, steel wool, and C-4 in the headrest tric---oh wait, he'd have to sit in the seat for that to work.

 

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Your thread title is intentionally misleading - crafted in order to fit your political bias I presume. I read the entire bill. Nothing in there about the military.


For those with reading difficulties....

A corporal (E4) in the marines with four years of of service, who is married and has two children would see a tax increase of $448 under HR 8.

A military police staff sergeant (E5) in the Air Force with eight years' service, with a spouse and three youg children at home, would see a tax increase of $1,118 under HR 8.

A private in the U.S. Army (E1) in his first year of service, who is married with an infant child, would see a $273 tax increase under the Republican plan.

Duh.


Could you give me the page and line number in the bill that gives those figures?
I didn't see anything like that in the bill.

 

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  posted on 8/9/2012 at 05:11 AM
I start to feel hopeful when I see posts from left leaning folks like Ann:
"I can do simple math but you don't cut income when you've got massive expenses and think you're going to balance a budget. I'm all for the Bush cuts expiring for everyone."

The other side of the coin is that we have to cut our expenses. We have to do both, there is no way around it. Everybody is going to have to bite the bullet for about a generation if we want to hand something solvent and sustainable to our kids. Everyone. Right now the middle class is shouldering the burden for us to try and hang on to a standard of living that in reality doesn't exist for us at this time, and in the process the middle class is disappearing. Wealth is becoming more concentrated at the top, which means that is where the power is being concentrated. We are going to have to elect leaders willing to make hard choices, to put the welfare of the country before party or personal gain. That means first we have to be willing to elect those types of leaders. I don't know if we possess the will to do that. Right now we'd rather point fingers at each other. That must be more comfortable than laying down our rocks and picking up our hammers and plows and figuring this thing out.

 

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  posted on 8/9/2012 at 05:44 AM
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Your thread title is intentionally misleading - crafted in order to fit your political bias I presume. I read the entire bill. Nothing in there about the military.


For those with reading difficulties....

A corporal (E4) in the marines with four years of of service, who is married and has two children would see a tax increase of $448 under HR 8.

A military police staff sergeant (E5) in the Air Force with eight years' service, with a spouse and three youg children at home, would see a tax increase of $1,118 under HR 8.

A private in the U.S. Army (E1) in his first year of service, who is married with an infant child, would see a $273 tax increase under the Republican plan.

Duh.


Could you give me the page and line number in the bill that gives those figures?
I didn't see anything like that in the bill.


Wood posted this a little down after that exchange.

"HR8 fails to extend the Child Tax Credit and Earned Income Tax Credit improvements, and thus, military and non-military families with similar incomes would face a tax increase. "

 

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  posted on 8/9/2012 at 05:45 AM
I agree, the title of the thread is a little misleading.

 

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