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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 09:15 PM
So Romney has two wins in a row, and Obama had no one running against him.

Any predictions on the next primary in South Carolina?

And why isn't anyone running against Obama? Is the Democratic Party going to give it's members a choice of
whom to vote for?

 

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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 10:46 PM
The President WAS opposed in NH. Some knit-cap wearing crackpot named O'Donnell. I saw him interviewed last night.

A credible opponent of the same party to an incumbent Pres is political madness. See Ted Kennedy.

 

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  posted on 1/11/2012 at 12:20 AM
Serious question here.....does anyone really think Romney has a shot at the presidency in the general election given so many of the conservative Christians have said they wouldn't vote for a Morman?

 

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  posted on 1/11/2012 at 07:07 AM
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Serious question here.....does anyone really think Romney has a shot at the presidency in the general election given so many of the conservative Christians have said they wouldn't vote for a Morman?


Mormon religion aside if the economy keeps improving incrementally like it has been the last 3 months in a row then definitely no. I also find it interesting Romney has been running for the last 5 years and could only drum up 40% of the vote in his home turf.

[Edited on 1/11/2012 by Peachypetewi]

 

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  posted on 1/11/2012 at 08:20 AM
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A credible opponent of the same party to an incumbent Pres is political madness. See Ted Kennedy.

Bobby Kennedy probably would have won in 1968. Hillary would probably win in 2012.

 

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  posted on 1/11/2012 at 08:22 AM
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Serious question here.....does anyone really think Romney has a shot at the presidency in the general election given so many of the conservative Christians have said they wouldn't vote for a Morman?

Yes, he has a serious shot.

 

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  posted on 1/11/2012 at 08:35 AM
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Serious question here.....does anyone really think Romney has a shot at the presidency in the general election given so many of the conservative Christians have said they wouldn't vote for a Morman?


Showing my age here, I am reminded of Vaughn Meader and that comedy album (the First Family) from the 1960's. In a mock news conference, reporters ask John Kennedy if he tought America could ever elect a Jewish president. His (Kennedy's - a la Meader) reply: "well, being a Catholic I would never vote for him."

I gues you really, really, really just had to be there!

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  posted on 1/11/2012 at 08:48 AM
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Serious question here.....does anyone really think Romney has a shot at the presidency in the general election given so many of the conservative Christians have said they wouldn't vote for a Morman?


yes, I have grown weary of Obama not stepping up to help the middle class, the price of gas is creeping closer to 4 bucks/gal, and his endlesss rounds of golf and tandem his/hers jet vacations while the economy keeps sputtering. Count me as one of the millions of disillusioned Obama voters. Mitt deserves some serious consideration.

Not to mention he was governor of Massachusetts where there is a very strong Irish/Catholic base and his governing did not appear to be influenced by his religion.

[Edited on 1/11/2012 by OriginalGoober]

 

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  posted on 1/11/2012 at 09:49 AM
Presidents have nothing to do with the price of oil or gas.

Mitt Romney made a lucrative career out of firing people. No thanks.

 

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  posted on 1/11/2012 at 09:57 AM
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Serious question here.....does anyone really think Romney has a shot at the presidency in the general election given so many of the conservative Christians have said they wouldn't vote for a Morman?


50/50 shot.

 

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Mitt Romney made a lucrative career out of firing people.
I personally could care less about Mitt Romney and have no intention of defending him, but the above is a wild misrepresentation of the Private Equity business in general. Wild, I say.

 

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Mitt Romney made a lucrative career out of firing people.
I personally could care less about Mitt Romney and have no intention of defending him, but the above is a wild misrepresentation of the Private Equity business in general. Wild, I say.


The Mitt Romney at Bain Capital created jobs?

 

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Mitt Romney made a lucrative career out of firing people.
I personally could care less about Mitt Romney and have no intention of defending him, but the above is a wild misrepresentation of the Private Equity business in general. Wild, I say.


The Mitt Romney at Bain Capital created jobs?


Staples alone created over 90,000 jobs.

 

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  posted on 1/11/2012 at 10:29 AM
Hey, you want to promote the GOP as the Party Of Bain, go right ahead.

 

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Mitt Romney made a lucrative career out of firing people.
I personally could care less about Mitt Romney and have no intention of defending him, but the above is a wild misrepresentation of the Private Equity business in general. Wild, I say.


The Mitt Romney at Bain Capital created jobs?


Staples alone created over 90,000 jobs.


How many jobs did Bain eliminate?

 

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  posted on 1/11/2012 at 10:39 AM
Staples, like Walmart, displaced the small, locally run stationary, printing and business equipment enterprises. So, they didn't create any more jobs than Walmart has. They simply moved mom and pops payroll into the big box store catagory, resulting in lower pay and less benefits for the labor pool. This makes for larger profit margins to be moved into off shore accounts. As with Walmart, the net end is an overall loss of jobs within the business. Not necessarily Bain or Staples intent, but a byproduct of consolidation and economies of scale. Not anything I would tout as job creation, but since the rest of his job record is tied to Federal spending (just like the "Texas Miracle" of Governor Goodhair), it's the best he's got.

 

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Mitt Romney made a lucrative career out of firing people.
I personally could care less about Mitt Romney and have no intention of defending him, but the above is a wild misrepresentation of the Private Equity business in general. Wild, I say.


The Mitt Romney at Bain Capital created jobs?


Staples alone created over 90,000 jobs.


How many jobs did Bain eliminate?


Looks like they have around 400 employees. I couldn't find data that shows they have eliminated any positions.

 

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Staples, like Walmart, displaced the small, locally run stationary, printing and business equipment enterprises. So, they didn't create any more jobs than Walmart has. They simply moved mom and pops payroll into the big box store catagory, resulting in lower pay and less benefits for the labor pool. This makes for larger profit margins to be moved into off shore accounts. As with Walmart, the net end is an overall loss of jobs within the business. Not necessarily Bain or Staples intent, but a byproduct of consolidation and economies of scale. Not anything I would tout as job creation, but since the rest of his job record is tied to Federal spending (just like the "Texas Miracle" of Governor Goodhair), it's the best he's got.


Does managing/running the winter Olymipics in Utah successfully count for something? I beileve that it is the only Olympic game to post a profit. i am still considering all candidates, but Mitt seems to be paying attention to where the dollars go so that things like Solyndra would not happen on his watch.

 

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  posted on 1/11/2012 at 10:49 AM
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Staples, like Walmart, displaced the small, locally run stationary, printing and business equipment enterprises.


None of the smaller operations around here closed, even though there is a Staples in the area.

 

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Mitt Romney made a lucrative career out of firing people.
I personally could care less about Mitt Romney and have no intention of defending him, but the above is a wild misrepresentation of the Private Equity business in general. Wild, I say.


The Mitt Romney at Bain Capital created jobs?


Staples alone created over 90,000 jobs.


How many jobs did Bain eliminate?


Looks like they have around 400 employees. I couldn't find data that shows they have eliminated any positions.


So, you are saying that in the course of business practices, Bain Capital have never eliminated any jobs at any of their holdings?

Or is that just more of your trademark smugness?

 

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  posted on 1/11/2012 at 10:59 AM
Romney is a sociopath who will say anything to get elected and whose multiple flip flops make John Kerry seem consistent.
 

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Mitt Romney made a lucrative career out of firing people.
I personally could care less about Mitt Romney and have no intention of defending him, but the above is a wild misrepresentation of the Private Equity business in general. Wild, I say.


The Mitt Romney at Bain Capital created jobs?


Staples alone created over 90,000 jobs.


How many jobs did Bain eliminate?


Looks like they have around 400 employees. I couldn't find data that shows they have eliminated any positions.


So, you are saying that in the course of business practices, Bain Capital have never eliminated any jobs at any of their holdings?

Or is that just more of your trademark smugness?


Bain has invested in hundreds of companies and I would hesitate to use the word "never." But in cases where jobs may have been eliminated, the individual companies probably had more to do with those decisions.

 

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  posted on 1/11/2012 at 11:04 AM
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Romney is a sociopath who will say anything to get elected and whose multiple flip flops make John Kerry seem consistent.


As his first term comes to an end, I now believe that about President Obama

 

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As his first term comes to an end, I now believe that about President Obama


Please give some examples, I seem to have missed that. As far as Romney goes he is a Wall Street predator and vulture who made millions by throwing people out of work. I just don't trust the bastard at all.


 

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  posted on 1/11/2012 at 11:24 AM
Oak, glad that didn't happen in your area. But, I would bet that the local shop has fewer employees than it once did and a smaller impact on the local economy. Smart business people will see a niche in the market when the big boxes move in. Personal service is the one advantage the local has, and the smart ones take advantage of that. Overall though, the net result is fewer employees, not more. So the claim of job creation is spurious at best.

 

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