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  posted on 11/5/2011 at 05:21 PM
Very sad to hear this. His first fight against Ali was epic, second I think only to the 1980 Olympic US Hockey Team winning the Gold Medal - perhaps the most exciting single athletic event, IMHO.

I hope he can pull through, but it doesn't look good.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/story/2011-11-05/joe-frazier-cancer/5 1084992/1

 

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  posted on 11/5/2011 at 05:27 PM
In the 1980's I was getting ready to cross the street on the West Side and who is standing next to me but Smokin Joe. I yell out "Smokin Joe Frazier!". We shake hands and I tell him how great it was watching him fight. He smiled, and was super cool. Very friendly.
Heres hoping Smokin Joe gives cancer that famous left hook.

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  posted on 11/5/2011 at 05:51 PM
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In the 1980's I was getting ready to cross the street on the West Side and who is standing next to me but Smokin Joe. I yell out "Smokin Joe Frazier!". We shake hands and I tell him how great it was watching him fight. He smiled, and was super cool. Very friendly.
Heres hoping Smokin Joe gives cancer that famous left hook.

[Edited on 11/5/2011 by griff]


WOW! That is so cool! What a great story. And thanks for confirming what I always thought about him - that he was a great guy who always handled himself with class.

Although I am now a huge Ali fan, originally Joe was my favorite and I rooted for him in that fight. I'll never forget how, in spite the incredible beating he took from Ali, he just kept coming and coming - and then in the 15th he just unleashed that AWESOME left hook and put the great Ali on the canvas for just the third time in his career. Talk about tension, drama, excitement and heroism.....that fight had it all. The Fight Of The Century.

Joe always carried himself with the utmost of class. I don't remember him ever denigrating an opponent before or after a fight. He never gave up and he never made any excuses.

He was, and is, a REAL man.

And man, did he have a KILLER smile.

Joe, you did Philly proud, my man.

Good luck, Joe. You've got a lot of people praying for you - and I bet Muhammed is one of 'em.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2011 at 06:51 PM
This is sad to hear. Smokin' Joe was an awesome boxer. The Ali-Frazier fights were amazing, like a couple gladiators going toe to toe.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2011 at 07:36 PM
Very sad to hear, but if Smokin Joe brings the same intensity to this fight that he brought against Ali in both of their fights, I won't count him out yet. Good luck Joe.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2011 at 09:23 PM
Met Smokin' Joe a few years ago in south Jersey in front of a diner he frequented. I wasn't sure how he'd take it, I approached him in the parking lot. He was such a gentleman. He shook my hand and his hand was still big and strong. I thanked him for the Ali fights and I sensed he kind of bristled when I said the name Ali. They respected each other, but I don't believe they loved each other I told him I loved boxing in the great days when he fought and he was really appreciative I was talking of those days, it was like he was honored I did, which was backwards because I was the one that was honored he didn't tell me to get lost. I told him I trained to box, but never did, he asked me why. Joe Frazier wanted to know why I didn't pursue it? The whole conversation was backwards, he was concerned with my life.... I wanted to say, wait Joe, I want to hear your stories..... so I told him late 20's was too old to get into the ring game, so I didn't. Joe said "wait a minute" and walked back to his Cadillac ( a very good condition older one) and reached in grabbed something.

Joe wanted to make sure I got two autographed pictures of himself. It was one of the most important moments of my life, Joe is my hero. So I treasure one pic, the other I sent to Tyler Seaman during his battle in the ring.

Creator watch over Smokin' Joe in this battle, and bless Tyler in your company.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2011 at 09:38 PM
They said on the news he is in hospice care. So there appears to be no hope sadly.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2011 at 10:18 PM
Ali might be the greatest, but Joe Frazier was the only man tough enough to make him prove it.



[Edited on 11/6/2011 by Fujirich]

 

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  posted on 11/6/2011 at 08:11 AM
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Ali might be the greatest, but Joe Frazier was the only man tough enough to make him prove it.



[Edited on 11/6/2011 by Fujirich]


Great post...

Joe Frazier was very kind and gracious the day I met him outside the Whitman diner in South Jersey a few years ago. I grew up a "Boxing Baby" and was thrilled to meet one of my heroes right in my own backyard. He was dashing in his fancy suit, hat and big cadillac...and such a gentleman.

My prayers go out to you Smokin' Joe. Keep fighting.

[Edited on 11/6/2011 by Jacquie]

 

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  posted on 11/6/2011 at 09:08 AM
God bless joe frazier.
 

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  posted on 11/6/2011 at 10:53 AM
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Met Smokin' Joe a few years ago in south Jersey in front of a diner he frequented. I wasn't sure how he'd take it, I approached him in the parking lot. He was such a gentleman. He shook my hand and his hand was still big and strong. I thanked him for the Ali fights and I sensed he kind of bristled when I said the name Ali. They respected each other, but I don't believe they loved each other I told him I loved boxing in the great days when he fought and he was really appreciative I was talking of those days, it was like he was honored I did, which was backwards because I was the one that was honored he didn't tell me to get lost. I told him I trained to box, but never did, he asked me why. Joe Frazier wanted to know why I didn't pursue it? The whole conversation was backwards, he was concerned with my life.... I wanted to say, wait Joe, I want to hear your stories..... so I told him late 20's was too old to get into the ring game, so I didn't. Joe said "wait a minute" and walked back to his Cadillac ( a very good condition older one) and reached in grabbed something.

Joe wanted to make sure I got two autographed pictures of himself. It was one of the most important moments of my life, Joe is my hero. So I treasure one pic, the other I sent to Tyler Seaman during his battle in the ring.

Creator watch over Smokin' Joe in this battle, and bless Tyler in your company.




There was an article on the two of them about ten years ago in SI. Frazier seemed to relly resent Ali; his greater fame and the verbal tauntings; ie Gorilla he took from him. Frazier (who was together with Ali during one of the interviews.) was seriously making fun of Ali's physical demise secondary to Parkinson's. Ali said he was still faster with a punch; got Frazier to toe off with him. Didn't move, but told Frazier "See how quick I was;you didn't even see it." Even physically humbled, Ali still managed to have the upper hand with his old nemesis. I truly think Frazier has never gotten over Ali somehow always managing to get the upper hand.

And Joe, this is till one of my favorite commercials of all time

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  posted on 11/6/2011 at 11:37 AM
Joe was instrumental in getting Ali reinstated in boxing after his suspension for refusing to go into the military. Ali pays him back by calling him an uncle Tom and getting a huge majority of African Americans to turn on him. Once I was waiting in OHare airport for a connecting flight back to Milwaukee after a road trip to fix a broken MRI machine in Boca Raton Florida and a huge entourage of people came walking towards me in the terminal like a wave must have been 200 people and in the middle of the swarm were Ali and Jesse Jackson. I got to within about 50 feet, just enough of an opening to see what the commotion was about.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2011 at 12:58 PM
Joe's managers are encouraging fans to post well wishes on :http://joefrazierscorner.com/home.

He also has a Facebook page (Smokin' Joe Frazier) which is where I left my message.

 

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  posted on 11/6/2011 at 04:59 PM
Prayers for Joe Frazier

 

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  posted on 11/6/2011 at 06:50 PM
All the best to Smokin' Joe -- sad to hear this -- he was one of the greatest ever -- and I can never forget his defeat of Ali in 1971 -- I bet on Joe and he put some moolah in my pockets

The 1964 Olympic gold medalist, the devastating knockouts of Oscar Bonavena, Jerry Quarry, Buster Mathis & others -- then the two losses to Foreman in 73 and 76 -- & the final, sorta sad swan song in Dec. 81 against Floyd "Jumbo" Cummings (ironically right around the same time as Ali's less-than-grand finale in the Bahamas against Trevor Berbick)...

best to you, brother

[Edited on 11/7/2011 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 11/6/2011 at 11:47 PM
Some people need to really rethink what they say. How they say it. Why. Maybe apologize right then and there. Maybe they should not let their handlers push them and egg them on to be the bully. No one knows how they and the other person will turn out. Times move on and show a lot.

I am not posting about anyone here, but about Ali.
I saw a documentary show on tv a while back on HBO about the one of their big fights. It was the one in Africa , I think.
It was showing how Ali said all kinds of things, some not so kind or not really funny in making fun .
Calling the man a gorilla.
Yeah, I like Ali and all, but he went way too far. Frazier did not deserve that taunting. Ali, I think the show said had made amends to Frazier

Best to Frazier. I am sure Ali will release a nice statement and maybe met with Frazier. Maybe it is good to apologize more, make more amends to make sure as both men are older, and have health issues.


[Edited on 11/7/2011 by SGirl]

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  posted on 11/7/2011 at 12:00 AM
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Some people need to really rethink what they say. How they say it. Why. Maybe apologize right then and there. Maybe they should not let their handlers push them and egg them on to be the bully. No one knows how they and the other person will turn out. Times move on and show a lot.

I am not posting about anyone here, but about Ali.
I saw a documentary show on tv a while back on HBO about the one of their big fights. It was the one in Africa , I think.
It was showing how Ali said all kinds of things, some not so kind or not really funny in making fun .
Calling the man a gorilla.
Yeah, I like Ali and all, but he went way too far. Frazier did not deserve that taunting. Ali, I think the show said had made amends to Frazier

Best to Frazier. I am sure Ali will release a nice statement and maybe met with Frazier. Maybe it is good to apologize more, make more amends to make sure as both men are older, and have health issues.


[Edited on 11/7/2011 by SGirl]

[Edited on 11/7/2011 by SGirl]


No CAPS there?

Hi deano.

Tell us why Ali reminds you of Gregg.

 

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  posted on 11/7/2011 at 12:23 AM
No caps?
Deano?
Lost me here? I am not No caps or Deano.

How does this remind me of Gregg Allman?
Well, the past is the past. I read where GA said something like that about regretting and stuff.
I guess that Ali does regret what , how, and why he said those things. He cannot change it now. He made amends to Frazier and since this is in the news about Frazier's health, I would not be surprised if Ali goes to Fraizer to apologize again just to make sure you know since both men are old and have big health problems.

Sorry to hear this about Frazier.
HBO will probably run the documentary again soon. Look for it.

Never mind. Just looked it up on Xfinity to see if it is there running now for this month. It is free if you have Xfinity with your cable and HBO. HBO sports and then go to movies and docs.
I was wrong. It was not a match in Africa, but Manilla.

The Thrilla in Manilla.
The documnetary was made in 2009.
It is running now untill 11/28/11. If you did not see, check it out. Well worth watching.
90 mins.

 

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  posted on 11/7/2011 at 12:25 AM
See if I can make this easier rahter than me try to explain it to those who have this with their cable .

http://xfinitytv.comcast.net/new/search/details?rex=156727150200&resour ces=odol,rovi,vod&entities=movies,series,sports&device=xfinitytv&am p;headend=3460X&dacid=&persona=1&query=Thrilla%20in%20Manila

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  posted on 11/7/2011 at 01:40 PM
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Joe was instrumental in getting Ali reinstated in boxing after his suspension for refusing to go into the military. Ali pays him back by calling him an uncle Tom and getting a huge majority of African Americans to turn on him. Once I was waiting in OHare airport for a connecting flight back to Milwaukee after a road trip to fix a broken MRI machine in Boca Raton Florida and a huge entourage of people came walking towards me in the terminal like a wave must have been 200 people and in the middle of the swarm were Ali and Jesse Jackson. I got to within about 50 feet, just enough of an opening to see what the commotion was about.


While no saint, I think with Ali it was all about the publicity/promotion. I don't think he meant to demean Frazier - just to build the gate. Surely, Joe saw it differently and has always been angry.

I can still remember when Ali was "ducking" George Chuvalo (not sure if he really was or it was an act. Surely a tough match for anyone) by saying he fought like an old washerwoman. Chuvalo showed up at a press conference dressed like a cleaning lady.

For better or for worse that was Ali. Love him or hate him it was all about the show/act.

Wishing Joe nothing but the best. Tough guy. I never saw anyone of his size get lifted off his feet by a puch like Foreman did to him their second fight.

 

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  posted on 11/7/2011 at 11:20 PM
RIP Joe.

 

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  posted on 11/7/2011 at 11:32 PM
A great boxer. RIP Joe Frazier




 

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  posted on 11/7/2011 at 11:55 PM
he was a cool cat for sure.

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  posted on 11/8/2011 at 12:01 AM
RIP Joe Frazier - one of the all-time great boxers. He was a big part of my personal Golden Age of Boxing, starting back when I was in 6th grade and I bet on Smokin' Joe while my friend Jeff Washburn bet on Ali. Jeff died not long after high school. My brother and I would listen to the between round live radio coverage of those Ali-Frazier fights, which kicked in the imagination. Eventually I did get to meet Joe Frazier when he was managing a boxer on the undercard of a Roger Mayweather fight that was held here in Cincinnati. His fights with Ali were classics!!

 

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  posted on 11/8/2011 at 12:05 AM
RIP Smokin' Joe. Heavyweight Champ from 1968-1973........an amazing run.

 

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