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  posted on 7/9/2011 at 12:46 PM

OK, before any of you wiseguys say, "Well, she was Elizabeth Reed," I know that. Was just wondering if anyone knew the story behind the song.

 
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  posted on 7/9/2011 at 12:51 PM
The story I've always heard is that it was in one of the bands favorite places in the cemetery to sit and play music....

 

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  posted on 7/9/2011 at 01:13 PM
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The story I've always heard is that it was in one of the bands favorite places in the cemetery to sit and play music....


More specifically, what I read was that Elizabeth Reed was a girl who died at a young age and was immortalized on a gravestone at Rose Hill Cemetary. I believe I read that in Scott Freeman's "Midnight Riders: The Story of The Allman Brothers Band". The index does not include any reference to Elizabeth Reed so I'd really have to search through the book to find it.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2011 at 02:02 PM
Elizabeth Jones Reed Napier was 90 when she died in 1945. Dickey used the name instead of the former girlfriend he had in mind. Duane once joked about the origin being related to Dickey and a girl in the cemetery but Dickey said that was not the case.
 

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  posted on 7/9/2011 at 02:03 PM
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The story I've always heard is that it was in one of the bands favorite places in the cemetery to sit and play music....


More specifically, what I read was that Elizabeth Reed was a girl who died at a young age and was immortalized on a gravestone at Rose Hill Cemetary. I believe I read that in Scott Freeman's "Midnight Riders: The Story of The Allman Brothers Band". The index does not include any reference to Elizabeth Reed so I'd really have to search through the book to find it.


Liz Reed was 89 when she passed.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2011 at 09:30 PM
I had always heard that ER lived on Rogers Ave, which is the street that borders The Big House. Cool, eh? What are the odds that the museum/ABB house would be within walking distance?

I'm thinking a lot of the tales concerning the Reed gravesite and DB are from the Glover Lewis article in the 11.25.71 Rolling Stone.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2011 at 09:35 PM
What's the Deal with Elizabeth Reed?
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In Memory of Elizabeth Reed. The instrumental masterpiece by Macon's own Allman Brothers band. This Jazz influenced rock favorite has endured the test of time. But what's the deal with Elizabeth Reed? Who was she? An old girlfriend perhaps? Well the truth Elizabeth Reed and the Allmans is completely coincidental, and a little odd.

The Allman Brothers Band spent a lot of time in Rose Hill Cemetery in general. But especially this area which because of its great acoustics allowed them the perfect place to play and its where they were introduced to Elizabeth Reed.

Elizabeth Reed was the wife of Briggs F. Napier and she died at the age of 90 back in 1935 almost 30 years before the Allmans would even pick up a guitar.

According to the back of her headstone three of Elizabeth's children died early the oldest only living to 4 but because her grave happened to be in the right place, her name will live on forever as the title to the Allman Brothers song.

And not too far away from Reed's Grave lies the graves fo two of the Allman Brothers members Duane Allman and Barry Oakley, both killed in motorcycle accdidents and both buried in the cemetery they loved to play in, the same cemetery as Elizabeth Reed. And that's the deal.


[Edited on 7/10/2011 by TanDan]

 

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  posted on 7/9/2011 at 09:44 PM
IMOER was written for another woman who Dickey chose not to name out of discretion
so he took the name from the tombstone in Rose Hill Cemetery.

Later the woman's real name was blurted out during an magazine interview.
I don't recall her name.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2011 at 10:37 PM
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The story I've always heard is that it was in one of the bands favorite places in the cemetery to sit and play music....


More specifically, what I read was that Elizabeth Reed was a girl who died at a young age and was immortalized on a gravestone at Rose Hill Cemetary. I believe I read that in Scott Freeman's "Midnight Riders: The Story of The Allman Brothers Band". The index does not include any reference to Elizabeth Reed so I'd really have to search through the book to find it.




I believe you are thinking of "Little Martha" also buried at Rose Hill who WAS a young girl when she perished.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2011 at 08:15 AM
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I believe you are thinking of "Little Martha" also buried at Rose Hill who WAS a young girl when she perished.



I think you're correct, I got Liz confused with Martha.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2011 at 08:40 AM
If I remember the story correctly, Dickey was involved with a woman named Carmella who was Boz Scaggs' girlfriend at the time.

Rather than name the song after her, he chose the inscription on one of the tombstones in the graveyard where the band met up to play.

 
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  posted on 7/10/2011 at 10:33 AM
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If I remember the story correctly, Dickey was involved with a woman named Carmella who was Boz Scaggs' girlfriend at the time.

Rather than name the song after her, he chose the inscription on one of the tombstones in the graveyard where the band met up to play.


Addin to the mix.The light from the train lighting up the name when some peakin at the Rose was goin down

 

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  posted on 7/10/2011 at 10:37 AM
Further "Twilight Zone" stuff comes from Duane & Berry's accidents being in proximity of Napier ave--named after same prominent family. I believe Berry was actually on Napier or just crossed. Will have to do some research. And correct that Liz Reed had a home on Rogers....around the corner from Big House.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2011 at 10:42 AM
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Further "Twilight Zone" stuff comes from Duane & Berry's accidents being in proximity of Napier ave--named after same prominent family. I believe Berry was actually on Napier or just crossed. Will have to do some research. And correct that Liz Reed had a home on Rogers....around the corner from Big House.


You can definately pass into another zone in Macon.Just how far and deep you travel is up to the other side however.A very spiritual town,with a lotta links to the cosmos.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2011 at 01:39 PM
"Little Martha" Ellis' gravestone:






 

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  posted on 7/10/2011 at 06:42 PM
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"Little Martha" Ellis' gravestone:








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  posted on 7/10/2011 at 06:48 PM
Macon is a very spiritual town....you sense, or I did...lotsa karma and vibes in the air. Almost surreal. Dan, where is LIttle Martha's plot in relation to Duane and B.O. grave site? I've yet to find it on my travels through Rose Hill.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2011 at 07:21 PM
This is a quote of from an article, It is consistent with other accounts I have read. Perhaps they relied on the same quote. I got to interview Boz Scaggs last year, but did not think of asking him about this - perhaps that was best. Also the " **** some girl" against or on a tombstone seems to be he result of a flippant remark by Duane.

“In Memory of Elizabeth Reed,” originally on the album Idlewild South, is a lovely, intricate instrumental by guitarist Dickey Betts, who spent a lot of time sitting and writing in the Macon graveyard, where he saw Elizabeth Reed’s name. The song was actually inspired by a living girl–but because she was Boz Scaggs’s girlfriend, Betts couldn’t use her name. “Some writer once asked me how I wrote the song and Duane [Allman] said, ‘Aw, he **** ed some girl across the tombstone,’” Betts said. “You can imagine how the girl I wrote it for felt after that.”

 

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  posted on 7/11/2011 at 09:32 AM
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Macon is a very spiritual town....you sense, or I did...lotsa karma and vibes in the air. Almost surreal.



You got that right man!Too deep for some to grasp though.I've only told a few of things that have gone down on trips back home.Use to get on here and ramble up a storm of ,,as you say surreal things goin down.And they weren't almost surreal ethier.They were hittin smack dab in the middle of the surreal bulls-eye.Gotta throw down the reins though.And just let the horse run & eat where it wants to.Cause once ya try to make sense out of it,take pictures,explain etc.It'll vanish before ya can pull another thought in your head.
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  posted on 7/11/2011 at 09:59 AM
During the Big House grand opening, the current mayor of Macon, Robert Reichert, proclaimed that Elizabeth Jones Reed Napier was his great grandmother. See @ 5:20 on this video....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4U7UIQny60&playnext=1&list=PL6DA321 7798E9A033

 

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If I remember the story correctly, Dickey was involved with a woman named Carmella who was Boz Scaggs' girlfriend at the time.

Rather than name the song after her, he chose the inscription on one of the tombstones in the graveyard where the band met up to play.


Addin to the mix.The light from the train lighting up the name when some peakin at the Rose was goin down


Yessiree. Only some of us understand - the rest don't matter!

 

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  posted on 7/11/2011 at 11:25 PM
For those of us that have been to Elizabeth Reed's gravesite, you can see why the band spent time there as it is multi-leveled and it has plenty of ledges for friends of the band to sit and hang out. Going to Rose Hill, the H and H, and the Big House in Macon last Summer were the coolest ABB things that I have done right up there with all of the Beacon shows that I have attended. I would definitely do it again soon.
 
 


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