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  posted on 12/21/2003 at 08:53 PM
PT means Political Topic - A little fair warning for those not interested.

http://lunaville.org/OReilly/

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On March 18 Bill said:
"if the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush Administration again" *

On April 22 Bill said:
"if weapons of mass destruction aren't found,... I will have to apologize because I bought into it... All right, a month from today, we'll do this story again" **

BILL O'REILLY:
Here's, here's the bottom line on this for every American and everybody in the world, nobody knows for sure, all right? We don't know what he has. We think he has 8,500 liters of anthrax. But let's see. But there's a doubt on both sides. And I said on my program, if, if the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush Administration again, all right? But I'm giving my government the benefit of the doubt. . . . *

BILL O'REILLY:
. . . if he has 8,500 liters of anthrax that he's not going to give up, even though the United Nations demanded that he do that, we are doing the right thing. If he doesn't have any weapons, then we are doing the wrong thing. *

 

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  posted on 12/21/2003 at 10:23 PM
http://www.floridatoday.com/!NEWSROOM/localstoryN1216NELSON.htm

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Dec 15, 10:17 PM

Senators were told Iraqi weapons could hit U.S.

Nelson said claim made during classified briefing

By John McCarthy
FLORIDA TODAY



U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson said Monday the Bush administration last year told him and other senators that Iraq not only had weapons of mass destruction, but they had the means to deliver them to East Coast cities.

Nelson, D-Tallahassee, said about 75 senators got that news during a classified briefing before last October's congressional vote authorizing the use of force to remove Saddam Hussein from power. Nelson voted in favor of using military force.

Nelson said he couldn't reveal who in the administration gave the briefing.

The White House directed questions about the matter to the Department of Defense. Defense officials had no comment on Nelson's claim.

Nelson said the senators were told Iraq had both biological and chemical weapons, notably anthrax, and it could deliver them to cities along the Eastern seaboard via unmanned aerial vehicles, commonly known as drones.

"They have not found anything that resembles an UAV that has that capability," Nelson said.

Nelson delivered the news during a half-hour conference call with reporters Monday afternoon. The senator, who is on a seven-nation trade mission to South America, was calling from an airport in Santiago, Chile.

"That's news," said John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, a Washington, D.C.-area military and intelligence think tank. "I had not heard that that was the assessment of the intelligence community. I had not heard that the Congress had been briefed on this."

Since the late 1990s, there have been several reports that Iraq was converting a fleet of Czechoslovakian jet fighters into UAVs, as well as testing smaller drones. And in a speech in Cincinnati last October, Bush mentioned the vehicles. "We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs for missions targeting the United States," the president said.

Nelson, though, said the administration told senators Iraq had gone beyond exploring and developed the means of hitting the U.S. with weapons of mass destruction.

Nelson wouldn't say what the original source of the intelligence was, but said it contradicted other intelligence reports senators had received. He said he wants to find out why there was so much disagreement about the weapons. "If that is an intelligence failure . . . we better find that out so we don't have an intelligence failure in the future."

Pike said any UAVs Iraq might have had would have had a range of only several hundred kilometers, enough to hit targets in the Middle East but not the United States. To hit targets on the East Coast, such drones would have to be launched from a ship in Atlantic. He said it wasn't out of the question for Iraq to have secretly acquired a tramp steamer from which such vehicles could have been launched.

"The notion that someone could launch a missile from a ship off our shores has been on Rummy's mind for years," Pike said, referring to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

Sen. Bob Graham, who voted against using military force in Iraq, didn't return phone calls concerning the briefing. Spokespersons for Reps. Dave Weldon and Tom Feeney said neither congressman could say if they had received similar briefings since they don't comment on classified information.

 

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  posted on 12/22/2003 at 03:59 AM
Hope nobody's holding their breath for Bill O'Reilly to apologize or say he was wrong. Let me know when he finds a way to blame it on the liberals, OK BillyBlastoff?

 

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  posted on 12/22/2003 at 05:58 AM
Hey OTF, that was a tip of the hat to your idea. I thought you would like it. I like music much more than I like politics. I try to somehow tie songs into political topics, although didn't on this one.

I should have called it "Liar" duh da duh da "Liar"

Who did that song? It was a hit when the band "Chicago" was really popular.

I know better than to hold my breath Marley. I think you are on to something though. His book sales have dropped way below, not only Hillary's but also Al Franken's sales. I suppose there will be new attack on the liberal media publishing world soon.

Great post Newt! Thanks. I'm glad to see Democrats waking up and realizing that most political races are decided by the voting public. As we move closer to election season I suspect we will be hearing a lot of reasons why they rubber stamped the war and happily passed the Patriot Act before reading it.

I expect we will have horses elected to the Senate in short order.

 

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  posted on 12/22/2003 at 08:33 AM
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There is no need for you to tell us it is a political topic. Your name on the topic tells us that.


LOL! its funny cuz it's true~!

 

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  posted on 12/22/2003 at 09:21 AM
He's a slippery devil, that Bill O', is. LOL I still like to watch him, see what he's "opining" on at the moment.....(name and town, name and town, name and town.....the spin stops here, etc.)

 

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  posted on 12/22/2003 at 09:32 AM
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I should have called it "Liar" duh da duh da "Liar"

Who did that song? It was a hit when the band "Chicago" was really popular.




I think that was Three Dog Night

 

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  posted on 12/22/2003 at 10:03 AM
Thanks SteveH!

Do you know what three dog night refers to? A night so cold you need three dogs in the bed to keep you warm.

 

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  posted on 12/22/2003 at 02:56 PM
yo bill were still waitin....

don't hold my breath,,, yo another lying sack of sh!t

 

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  posted on 12/22/2003 at 10:45 PM
Funny, OTF :-)

 

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  posted on 12/22/2003 at 10:56 PM
I usually visit these PT threads to watch y'all get your panties up in a bunch, but I actually learned how 3 Dog Night came up w/ their name from this one !!!

Who sez you can't learn anything from the mudslinging !!

 

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  posted on 12/23/2003 at 01:44 PM
I'm in the background watching too, Liar was indeed covered by Three Dog Night but it is a Russ Ballard song recorded by Argent. You know, Hold Your Head Up....

 

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  posted on 12/23/2003 at 01:47 PM
Uh oh OTF. You've been sucked into a political "discussion". Better be careful...

 

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  posted on 12/23/2003 at 10:43 PM
wanna know what is REALLY funny ?

people thinking that anything to do with politics is true...

my two 1/2 cents worth

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  posted on 12/24/2003 at 03:13 AM
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Liar was indeed covered by Three Dog Night but it is a Russ Ballard song recorded by Argent. You know, Hold Your Head Up....


I remember Argent. Did they do "Liar"? I bet they did a jam up version.

I try to work something musical into the PT threads... honest.

 

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  posted on 12/24/2003 at 05:43 PM
Nicely put, OTF.

Gotdrumz- what?

 

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