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  posted on 3/6/2011 at 04:57 PM
This clip is representative of the trash that conspiracy people put out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8

In a recent t.v. interview some of the agents assigned to the motorcade finally speak out and laugh off this nonsense.

The reason the agents get away from his car is because unknown to many, is the fact the motorcade was very close to the highway entrance they were about to get on. Try standing on the back of a limo at 60 m.p.h.

At one point this clip shows a supposedly confused agent with his arms stretched out wondering what was going on.

He was not confused at all. In the interview the agents explained that agent was a local agent whose assignment had just ended before the cars got on the highway. The agents remember him saying with out stretched arms something like, 'I'm out of here, you guys have a nice weekend' He was going off duty.

Read what really happened. Bless our Secret Service agents. Conspiracy theorists have elected to ignore this book. It interferes with their lies.


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Have you read the Warren Report?

I remember when it came out my Father reading it and shaking his head in disbelief.

wott a crock of dodo that report is.



 

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  posted on 3/6/2011 at 05:16 PM
I don't think anyone has any credible evidence linking the Secret Service to the Assassinations of Kennedy and
Oswald.

This is the supposed deathbed confession of E Howard Hunt


quote:
Hunt's Deathbed Confession
Reveals JFK Killers
The Last Confession Of E. Howard Hunt -
US government/CIA team murdered JFK
By Larry Chin
Online Journal Associate Editor
4-4-7

The April 5 issue of Rolling Stone features the deathbed confession of CIA operative and key Bay of Pigs/Watergate/Nixon administration figure E. Howard Hunt, The Last Confession of E. Howard Hunt by Erik Hedegaard. This piece is significant not only for its exploration of Hunt, but for breakthrough information that appears to thoroughly corroborate the work of key John F. Kennedy assassination researchers and historians.

Who killed JFK?

According to Hunt's confession, which was taken by his son, St. John ("Saint") Hunt, over the course of many personal and carefully planned father-son meetings, the following individuals were among the key participants:

Lyndon B. Johnson: LBJ, whose own career was assisted by JFK nemesis J. Edgar Hoover (FBI), gave the orders to a CIA-led hit team, and helped guide the Warren Commission/lone gunman cover-up.

Cord Meyer: CIA agent, architect of the Operation Mockingbird disinformation apparatus, and husband of Mary Meyer (who had an affair with JFK).

David Atlee Philips: CIA and Bay of Pigs veteran. Recruited William Harvey (CIA) and Cuban exile militant Antonio Veciana.

William Harvey: CIA and Bay of Pigs veteran. Connected to Mafia figures Santos Trafficante and Sam Giancana.

Antonio Veciana: Cuban exile, founder of CIA-backed Alpha 66.

Frank Sturgis: CIA operative, mercenary, Bay of Pigs veteran, and later Watergate figure.

David Morales: CIA hit man, Bay of Pigs veteran. Morales was also a figure involved with the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy.

Lucien Sarti: Corsican assassin and drug trafficker, possible "French gunman," Grassy Knoll (second) shooter.

Would Hunt continue to tell lies on his deathbed? Perhaps. Would Hunt tell a final tall story or two, to protect himself, or perhaps deal one final slap in the face to the US government (which made him a fall guy for Watergate)? Yes. Would Hunt hide the involvement of certain individuals to whom he remained loyal, including people who are still alive? Certainly. Anything from an operative like Hunt can only be accepted with caution and healthy skepticism.

Nevertheless, Hunt's scenario has the ring of truth.

Each of the named names are well-known CIA and CIA-linked players exposed by many researchers and historians who have detailed the enduring connection from the Bay of Pigs and the Dallas hit to Watergate and Iran-Contra.

The Hunt confession vindicates generations of historians, researchers and whistleblowers who have given their lives and careers to expose the truth about Dealey Plaza. While there are too many to name, they include, but are not limited to (and in no particular order): Jim Garrison, Mark Lane, Fletcher Prouty, Josiah Thompson, Carl Oglesby, Peter Dale Scott, Anthony Summers, Robert Groden, Victor Marchetti, David Lifton, Harrison Livingstone, Michael Canfield, A.J. Weberman, Sylvia Meagher, William Turner, Jim Marrs, Pete Brewton, John Newman, Philip Melanson, Hal Verb, Mae Brussell, Harold Weisberg, Oliver Stone, Mike Ruppert and Dan Hopsicker, Jim diEugenio and Linda Pease.

Meanwhile, the criminal deceptions of the US government and its corporate media, the Warren Commission, and the dirty work of cover-up specialists such as Gerald Posner and Mark Fuhrman, and the legions of JFK assassination revisionist/theorists, deserve a final rebuke, and eternal scorn.

Highlighting Hunt's role

Although the Rolling Stone piece does not address it, the Hunt confession directly corroborates two classic investigations that previously exposed the role of Hunt. They are Mark Lane's Plausible Denial and Michael Canfield/A.J. Weberman's Coup D'Etat in America. Lane's book details how he took Hunt to court, and won a libel suit, essentially proving that the CIA murdered JFK, and that Hunt lied about his whereabouts. The investigation of Canfield and Weberman identified Hunt and Frank Sturgis as two of the three "tramps" arrested at Dealey Plaza.

Time has only made these investigations more relevant. More than ever, their books, and those of the JFK historians and researchers above listed, deserve to be found, read and studied.

Hunt to Nixon to Bush

The Rolling Stone piece fails to go after the roles of Richard Nixon and George Herbert Walker Bush. But the Hunt confession, if accurate, leads directly to them, to their lifelong associates, and all the way to the present George W. Bush administration.

The Dallas-Watergate-Iran-Contra connection has been thoroughly documented by the key JFK researchers, and in particular, in the work of Peter Dale Scott, one of the very first to show the deep political continuity across three decades. Daniel Hopsicker's Barry and the Boys goes into even more detail on the players.

Consider the career of George H.W. Bush. He was a Texas oilman (Zapata Oil) and a CIA operative, involved with the Bay of Pigs. Bush's name was found in the papers of George DeMohrenschildt, one of Lee Harvey Oswald's CIA handlers. As documented by Pete Brewton, author of The Mafia, the CIA and George Bush, Bush was deeply connected with a small circle of Texas elites tied to the CIA and the Mafia, as well as the Florida-based CIA/anti-Casto Cuban exile/ Mafia milieu As Richard Nixon's hand-picked Republican National Committee chairman, and later as CIA director, Bush constantly covered-up and stonewalled for his boss about Watergate, which itself (by the admission of Frank Sturgis and others) was a cover-up of the JFK assassination.

Tracking any of the individual CIA operatives involved with the Bay of Pigs, it is impossible to ignore or deny direct connections to George H.W. Bush and his crime family, across the Kennedy assassinations, covert operations in Indochina and, later, Latin America.

Beyond any reasonable doubt, the US government murdered John F. Kennedy. There are people still alive today who were involved directly and indirectly implicated. Some are probably even serving in positions of high influence. Some still have never been identified or touched.

All of these individuals still need to be pursued, exposed, and brought to justice.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2011 at 05:30 PM
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I don't think anyone has any credible evidence linking the Secret Service to the Assassinations of Kennedy and
Oswald.

This is the supposed deathbed confession of E Howard Hunt


quote:
Hunt's Deathbed Confession
Reveals JFK Killers
The Last Confession Of E. Howard Hunt -
US government/CIA team murdered JFK
By Larry Chin
Online Journal Associate Editor
4-4-7

The April 5 issue of Rolling Stone features the deathbed confession of CIA operative and key Bay of Pigs/Watergate/Nixon administration figure E. Howard Hunt, The Last Confession of E. Howard Hunt by Erik Hedegaard. This piece is significant not only for its exploration of Hunt, but for breakthrough information that appears to thoroughly corroborate the work of key John F. Kennedy assassination researchers and historians.

Who killed JFK?

According to Hunt's confession, which was taken by his son, St. John ("Saint") Hunt, over the course of many personal and carefully planned father-son meetings, the following individuals were among the key participants:

Lyndon B. Johnson: LBJ, whose own career was assisted by JFK nemesis J. Edgar Hoover (FBI), gave the orders to a CIA-led hit team, and helped guide the Warren Commission/lone gunman cover-up.

Cord Meyer: CIA agent, architect of the Operation Mockingbird disinformation apparatus, and husband of Mary Meyer (who had an affair with JFK).

David Atlee Philips: CIA and Bay of Pigs veteran. Recruited William Harvey (CIA) and Cuban exile militant Antonio Veciana.

William Harvey: CIA and Bay of Pigs veteran. Connected to Mafia figures Santos Trafficante and Sam Giancana.

Antonio Veciana: Cuban exile, founder of CIA-backed Alpha 66.

Frank Sturgis: CIA operative, mercenary, Bay of Pigs veteran, and later Watergate figure.

David Morales: CIA hit man, Bay of Pigs veteran. Morales was also a figure involved with the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy.

Lucien Sarti: Corsican assassin and drug trafficker, possible "French gunman," Grassy Knoll (second) shooter.

Would Hunt continue to tell lies on his deathbed? Perhaps. Would Hunt tell a final tall story or two, to protect himself, or perhaps deal one final slap in the face to the US government (which made him a fall guy for Watergate)? Yes. Would Hunt hide the involvement of certain individuals to whom he remained loyal, including people who are still alive? Certainly. Anything from an operative like Hunt can only be accepted with caution and healthy skepticism.

Nevertheless, Hunt's scenario has the ring of truth.

Each of the named names are well-known CIA and CIA-linked players exposed by many researchers and historians who have detailed the enduring connection from the Bay of Pigs and the Dallas hit to Watergate and Iran-Contra.

The Hunt confession vindicates generations of historians, researchers and whistleblowers who have given their lives and careers to expose the truth about Dealey Plaza. While there are too many to name, they include, but are not limited to (and in no particular order): Jim Garrison, Mark Lane, Fletcher Prouty, Josiah Thompson, Carl Oglesby, Peter Dale Scott, Anthony Summers, Robert Groden, Victor Marchetti, David Lifton, Harrison Livingstone, Michael Canfield, A.J. Weberman, Sylvia Meagher, William Turner, Jim Marrs, Pete Brewton, John Newman, Philip Melanson, Hal Verb, Mae Brussell, Harold Weisberg, Oliver Stone, Mike Ruppert and Dan Hopsicker, Jim diEugenio and Linda Pease.

Meanwhile, the criminal deceptions of the US government and its corporate media, the Warren Commission, and the dirty work of cover-up specialists such as Gerald Posner and Mark Fuhrman, and the legions of JFK assassination revisionist/theorists, deserve a final rebuke, and eternal scorn.

Highlighting Hunt's role

Although the Rolling Stone piece does not address it, the Hunt confession directly corroborates two classic investigations that previously exposed the role of Hunt. They are Mark Lane's Plausible Denial and Michael Canfield/A.J. Weberman's Coup D'Etat in America. Lane's book details how he took Hunt to court, and won a libel suit, essentially proving that the CIA murdered JFK, and that Hunt lied about his whereabouts. The investigation of Canfield and Weberman identified Hunt and Frank Sturgis as two of the three "tramps" arrested at Dealey Plaza.

Time has only made these investigations more relevant. More than ever, their books, and those of the JFK historians and researchers above listed, deserve to be found, read and studied.

Hunt to Nixon to Bush

The Rolling Stone piece fails to go after the roles of Richard Nixon and George Herbert Walker Bush. But the Hunt confession, if accurate, leads directly to them, to their lifelong associates, and all the way to the present George W. Bush administration.

The Dallas-Watergate-Iran-Contra connection has been thoroughly documented by the key JFK researchers, and in particular, in the work of Peter Dale Scott, one of the very first to show the deep political continuity across three decades. Daniel Hopsicker's Barry and the Boys goes into even more detail on the players.

Consider the career of George H.W. Bush. He was a Texas oilman (Zapata Oil) and a CIA operative, involved with the Bay of Pigs. Bush's name was found in the papers of George DeMohrenschildt, one of Lee Harvey Oswald's CIA handlers. As documented by Pete Brewton, author of The Mafia, the CIA and George Bush, Bush was deeply connected with a small circle of Texas elites tied to the CIA and the Mafia, as well as the Florida-based CIA/anti-Casto Cuban exile/ Mafia milieu As Richard Nixon's hand-picked Republican National Committee chairman, and later as CIA director, Bush constantly covered-up and stonewalled for his boss about Watergate, which itself (by the admission of Frank Sturgis and others) was a cover-up of the JFK assassination.

Tracking any of the individual CIA operatives involved with the Bay of Pigs, it is impossible to ignore or deny direct connections to George H.W. Bush and his crime family, across the Kennedy assassinations, covert operations in Indochina and, later, Latin America.

Beyond any reasonable doubt, the US government murdered John F. Kennedy. There are people still alive today who were involved directly and indirectly implicated. Some are probably even serving in positions of high influence. Some still have never been identified or touched.

All of these individuals still need to be pursued, exposed, and brought to justice.




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  posted on 3/6/2011 at 06:03 PM
This country has been in the grips of the Bush family before I was born and probably will be long after I'm gone. It would be interesting to know the full involvement of the Bush family in the political arena and with a number of defining events in our history. I dare say, judging from what I've read and pieced together, it would boggle the mind.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2011 at 06:10 PM
Very interesting article and quite honestly, very believable.

 

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This country has been in the grips of the Bush family before I was born and probably will be long after I'm gone. It would be interesting to know the full involvement of the Bush family in the political arena and with a number of defining events in our history. I dare say, judging from what I've read and pieced together, it would boggle the mind.


I get the feeling it does not take much to boggle your mind. LOL

 

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  posted on 3/6/2011 at 06:32 PM
I don't boggle but then again, I'm not a mindless lemming following whichever politician says the right things to trigger a Pavlovian response. If one really cares to know some of what's been going on, start with Prescott Bush and then chart where he and the rest of the Bush clan have been during important events in our history. For instance, the Bush family was friends with the Hinkley family.....the Hinkley who shot Reagan. Just one piece, not the whole puzzle.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2011 at 06:44 PM
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no proof, true.

but they had a motive.

 

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This country has been in the grips of the Bush family before I was born and probably will be long after I'm gone. It would be interesting to know the full involvement of the Bush family in the political arena and with a number of defining events in our history. I dare say, judging from what I've read and pieced together, it would boggle the mind.


I get the feeling it does not take much to boggle your mind. LOL


I get the feeling that this Lady has more intelligence and insight than you can fathom.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2011 at 07:01 PM
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I don't boggle but then again, I'm not a mindless lemming following whichever politician says the right things to trigger a Pavlovian response. If one really cares to know some of what's been going on, start with Prescott Bush and then chart where he and the rest of the Bush clan have been during important events in our history. For instance, the Bush family was friends with the Hinkley family.....the Hinkley who shot Reagan. Just one piece, not the whole puzzle.


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This country has been in the grips of the Bush family before I was born and probably will be long after I'm gone. It would be interesting to know the full involvement of the Bush family in the political arena and with a number of defining events in our history. I dare say, judging from what I've read and pieced together, it would boggle the mind.


I get the feeling it does not take much to boggle your mind. LOL


I get the feeling that this Lady has more intelligence and insight than you can fathom.


LMAO. I like the way you use a capital letter L in Lady. I can fathom she certainly does not need you to defend her. I think you are flirting with her. Chivalry is not dead!!! LMAO

 

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History Channel recently aired all the local feeds from the Dallas news stations. There is a famous shot of a mother and father laying on top of their children as the motorcade races away.

They had the video feed and the husband clearly stated that they were standing waiting when they saw the President get shot..then another shot rang out from behind them and it hit the President in the temple. Thats when the dove to the ground to cover their children up.

Single gunman...

 

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Just for the sake of discussion, suppose we agree it was a single gunman....then the question is.....who was it? There were reports of Oswald leaving the cafeteria and going down the stairs to exit the building making the comment, 'I was set up."

 

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  posted on 3/6/2011 at 08:03 PM
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I don't think anyone has any credible evidence linking the Secret Service to the Assassinations of Kennedy and
Oswald.

This is the supposed deathbed confession of E Howard Hunt


Check out Mark Lane's book.."Plausible Denial".....



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  posted on 3/6/2011 at 09:06 PM
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I don't think anyone has any credible evidence linking the Secret Service to the Assassinations of Kennedy and
Oswald.

This is the supposed deathbed confession of E Howard Hunt


Check out Mark Lane's book.."Plausible Denial".....




mentioned in the article

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Although the Rolling Stone piece does not address it, the Hunt confession directly corroborates two classic investigations that previously exposed the role of Hunt. They are Mark Lane's Plausible Denial and Michael Canfield/A.J. Weberman's Coup D'Etat in America. Lane's book details how he took Hunt to court, and won a libel suit, essentially proving that the CIA murdered JFK, and that Hunt lied about his whereabouts. The investigation of Canfield and Weberman identified Hunt and Frank Sturgis as two of the three "tramps" arrested at Dealey Plaza.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2011 at 09:35 PM
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Just for the sake of discussion, suppose we agree it was a single gunman....then the question is.....who was it? There were reports of Oswald leaving the cafeteria and going down the stairs to exit the building making the comment, 'I was set up."


"There were reports"

Document the reports. You can't. Prove he said what you believe he said. You can't. Put enough of that crap together that is not proven and bingo...you have enough proof for a Michael Moore style movie. And once that happens it has to be true because "they" even made a movie out of it !!!!

Somewhat related. I saw a film clip of an eyewitness outside of the Pentagon being interviewed on 9/11. He seemed very credible. There was still smoke smoldering out of the building. This clip was part of a hard hitting 9/11 conspiracy montage made up of eyewitness interviews.

He said, "it was a cruise missile that slammed into the building"

Pretty convincing stuff???
Not really. A 9/11 conspiracy debunking piece showed that interview as it really aired and the person actually said, "I looked to my left and saw an American airliner flying real low and it looked like it was a cruise missile that slammed into the building"


Crafty editing has fooled many.






[Edited on 3/7/2011 by williamb]

 

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  posted on 3/6/2011 at 09:51 PM
According to your story, Hernandez passes you and starts walking up the ramp. Then you say you were struck on the right temple. The spit then proceeds to ricochet off the temple, striking Newman between the third and fourth rib. The spit then came off the rib turned and hit Newman in the right wrist, causing him to drop his baseball cap. The spit then splashed off the wrist, pauses — in mid air, mind you — makes a left turn and lands on Newman's left thigh. That is one magic loogie.

 

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Just for the sake of discussion, suppose we agree it was a single gunman....then the question is.....who was it? There were reports of Oswald leaving the cafeteria and going down the stairs to exit the building making the comment, 'I was set up."


"There were reports"

Document the reports. You can't. Prove he said what you believe he said. You can't. Put enough of that crap together that is not proven and bingo...you have enough proof for a Michael Moore style movie. And once that happens it has to be true because "they" even made a movie out of it !!!!


[Edited on 3/7/2011 by williamb]


I don't care whether you believe it or not....I don't have to prove it to anyone nor do I have to 'document the reports.' But thank you for playing....drive on through.

 

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Just for the sake of discussion, suppose we agree it was a single gunman....then the question is.....who was it? There were reports of Oswald leaving the cafeteria and going down the stairs to exit the building making the comment, 'I was set up."


"There were reports"

Document the reports. You can't. Prove he said what you believe he said. You can't. Put enough of that crap together that is not proven and bingo...you have enough proof for a Michael Moore style movie. And once that happens it has to be true because "they" even made a movie out of it !!!!


[Edited on 3/7/2011 by williamb]


I don't care whether you believe it or not....I don't have to prove it to anyone nor do I have to 'document the reports.' But thank you for playing....drive on through.


Written like a true ten year old! lmao

 

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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 10:25 AM
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I don't think anyone has any credible evidence linking the Secret Service to the Assassinations of Kennedy and
Oswald.


I have never read the full Warren report, but have seen the conclusion and it seem…uh, not plausible. While no one has credible evidence, after reading the book High Treason about 20 years ago, I believe it was a government hit. The author makes some wacky assertions, but also makes some good points.

If it was the CIA, the Secret Service, or some other agency remains to be proven. Whoever did it, had ice water in their veins. They shot the most powerful man in the world, while he was a moving target. Even more importantly, they kept their mouth shut. That is something an organization like the mob could never do, and it was a shot(s) someone like Lee Harvey could never make.

 

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Whoever did it, had ice water in their veins. They shot the most powerful man in the world, while he was a moving target. Even more importantly, they kept their mouth shut. That is something an organization like the mob could never do...

It's easy to keep a secret if the truth is only known to one man and he's dead.

 

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Read what really happened.


No one knows what really happened.

 

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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 11:24 AM
After everything I've read over the years, I tend to agree with Jim.

 

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