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  posted on 8/27/2010 at 04:01 PM
I have seen this a few times this year from bands that don't want people to take pictures or video during a concert. I really don't get it? Chris Robinson of the Black Crowes berated a fan during their performance for taking video of the band? I saw Ringo Starr point out a fan to security and pretty much did the same thing right in the middle of his act.

These people are sometimes paying hundreds of dollars to attend these concerts and these "artist" are so self important that they don't want to end up on youtube the next day?

All this does is push the fans furthur apart from the band, not bring them closer. The group is not going to lose one penny in revenue and if anything, they would be endearing themselves to their fan base? The gratefule dead had huge success allowing people to record their shows, it never affected merchandise or ticket sales. In fact, I was at a Furthur show in Chicago, people were recording, you could have downloaded it probably the next day, yet there was a huge line to buy the soundboards from the show that night. The merchandise was flying off the shelves.

I managed to get about 2 minutes of Edgar Winter doing Frankenstein at the Ringo show before the security guy shut me down. Pretty sad.

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  posted on 8/27/2010 at 04:18 PM
Were there signs posted that said the artist requests no videos or pictures?

They own their product and their image - not you.

Doesn't matter how much you paid to get in, it is for entry to that show - not for you to provide unauthorized video to those that weren't there. For you to say they are self-important for wanting to protect their image and their product is arrogance at it's worst.

 

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  posted on 8/27/2010 at 04:27 PM
These bands aren't playing Belize so youtube may be your only way of seeing them.







 

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  posted on 8/27/2010 at 04:44 PM
The Dead did not allow video taping.

 

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  posted on 8/27/2010 at 05:08 PM
I get it that it is their image? But what harm is being done? I don't get it.

 

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  posted on 8/27/2010 at 05:31 PM
I totally understand selling it, that is one thing. But for personal satisfaction, I don't get it. Where is the harm to the band? I can only see it helping them, not hurting them. In this age of technology for these guys to want to control this is just rediculous. Lighten and go smoke another. Geez, give me a break.

 

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  posted on 8/27/2010 at 07:22 PM
I have no problem either way but have gained a greater respect for the bands that do let you take non flash pictures and video. It is their right to not allow it though and it should ultimately be up to the band.

And I am glad I found this out here and now because I was gonna bring my camera to a Nokia show. Now I'll just leave it home.

[Edited on 8/28/2010 by sixty8]

 

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  posted on 8/27/2010 at 07:28 PM
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I totally understand selling it, that is one thing. But for personal satisfaction, I don't get it. Where is the harm to the band? I can only see it helping them, not hurting them. In this age of technology for these guys to want to control this is just rediculous. Lighten and go smoke another. Geez, give me a break.


They have the right to present themselves as they wish.

I wouldn't want to see micelf represented by a grainy video with lousy sound on youtube.

What harm ?, It pisses me off when idiots keep holding cell phones over their heads blocking my view.
It is damn inconsiderate.

 

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  posted on 8/27/2010 at 07:40 PM
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I wouldn't want to see micelf represented by a grainy video with lousy sound on youtube.



An artist we know of asked somebody to take down a video on Youtube because of the sound quality.

What harm ?, It pisses me off when idiots keep holding cell phones over their heads blocking my view.
It is damn inconsiderate.


One reason I don't try to get up front anymore.

 

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  posted on 8/27/2010 at 08:12 PM
My son and I went to see comedian Aziz Ansari recently and before he came out, he spoke over the PA, reciting the 'No camera or video' policy...then he came out onstage.

He joked about it for a second, then briefly said he gets in a zone telling his jokes and if flashes are going off it messes him up and also he does not want his act to show up on youtube.

THEN, he did something which I thought was hilarious....he said, "OK for the next couple of minutes, get your cameras out and snap away, take as many pictures as you want NOW, then put them away."

He posed all around the stage, even had a guy stand up in the front and fake some sort of altercation, all for everyone's camera shots.

Then he started is act. Thought that was funny.

 

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  posted on 8/27/2010 at 08:34 PM
yeah, I can't tell you how many times I have been approached to buy concert footage shot by a cell phone camera and grainy still pictures shot from cell phones. It gets really old and I wish these guys would just crawl back under their rocks.


These musicians should lighten up and just be happy that someone actually wants to take their picture or post their video on youtube. Someday, and probly sooner than later, nobody will care about them and all they will have are some videos on youtube to look back on.

Nobody is selling this stuff or making a profit in any way. On top of that, the artist isn't losing a dime either. In my opiinion, when you stop a performance in the middle of a song just to bitch at a guy for taking your picture, it makes you look bad, not the guy taking the picture. Like I said, lighten up and smoke another and everything will be ok.

 

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  posted on 8/27/2010 at 09:40 PM
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Were there signs posted that said the artist requests no videos or pictures?

They own their product and their image - not you.

Doesn't matter how much you paid to get in, it is for entry to that show - not for you to provide unauthorized video to those that weren't there. For you to say they are self-important for wanting to protect their image and their product is arrogance at it's worst.




enough said. lt's nice some bands allow audio taping.

 

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  posted on 8/27/2010 at 09:43 PM
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yeah, I can't tell you how many times I have been approached to buy concert footage shot by a cell phone camera and grainy still pictures shot from cell phones. It gets really old and I wish these guys would just crawl back under their rocks.


These musicians should lighten up and just be happy that someone actually wants to take their picture or post their video on youtube. Someday, and probly sooner than later, nobody will care about them and all they will have are some videos on youtube to look back on.

Nobody is selling this stuff or making a profit in any way. On top of that, the artist isn't losing a dime either. In my opiinion, when you stop a performance in the middle of a song just to bitch at a guy for taking your picture, it makes you look bad, not the guy taking the picture. Like I said, lighten up and smoke another and everything will be ok.




And it does not matter to you how many people you disturb to get said video,

that is very selfish. You should lighten up.

[Edited on 8/28/2010 by spacemonkey]

 

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  posted on 8/27/2010 at 09:47 PM
Otie,

You can come by and take my picture and put me up on your youtube page anytime you want. Now getting into my hottub, well, I don't think so. You can borrow my car if you want.

 

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  posted on 8/28/2010 at 06:59 AM
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I wouldn't want to see micelf represented by a grainy video with lousy sound on youtube.



An artist we know of asked somebody to take down a video on Youtube because of the sound quality.

What harm ?, It pisses me off when idiots keep holding cell phones over their heads blocking my view.
It is damn inconsiderate.


One reason I don't try to get up front anymore.


I take a few photos at concerts, If I'm shooting for myself (no photo pass) I check with the artists management or the artist first. Then when I shoot I go down front shoot through a couple songs and I'm usually done. If you can't get some good shots in 5 or 10 minutes you have no business using a camera

 

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  posted on 8/28/2010 at 07:18 AM
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Let those who are without sin cast the first stone! Anyone who owns any bootleg recording of any band can STFU about artists's rights... You are being a hypocrite!

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As for someone owning their image:

You do own the rights to your image if it is used for commercial purposes; but you have a right to privacy, that has nothing to do with owning your image.


Non commercial use does not infringe on the rights of the subject photographed, and the right to privacy is pretty much thrown out the window when you choose to get on stage in front of thousands of people...

Legalities aside, it is pretty rude to disregard an artist's preferences considering use of their image. If you like someone enough to go to see them and support them, you should like them enough to honor their wishes on this issue.













 

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  posted on 8/28/2010 at 09:21 AM
I remember Little Milton's road manager literally tossing a guy out of a blues festival for trying to videotape Little Milton performance. The road manager had come on stage before Little Milton and told the audience that if anyone tried to record/videotape Little Milton performance that the show would be stopped. Nevertheless, there always one clueless idiot who thinks the rules don't apply to him. Anyway, the road manager saw the "red light" of video camera and he and bunch of security removed the offending tape from the camera and ejected the offender from the premises. After that Little Milton resumed his show.


 

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This is pretty accurate of what I saw at the Tom Petty concert last week.

at The Willy Nelson show before that the Woman next to me could not leave her iPhone alone for
5 minutes , very distracting.

what ever happened to courtesy and kindness?

 

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This is pretty accurate of what I saw at the Tom Petty concert last week.



My favorite people are the ones who spend the entire show taking pictures of themselves!

"OMG!! This is me and my friends at, like, some concert or whatever! OMG, we were sooooo cute!!!"












I prefer people who take pictures of the band...










 

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  posted on 8/28/2010 at 11:21 AM
I like standing around the throngs of tourists in Glacier Park and lurking in the background when they take pictures, and then confronting them for my $50 image use fee. It's really a great scene when they speak poor English.

 

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  posted on 8/28/2010 at 11:27 AM
I'm with you, jpb, and I never take pictures or shoot video. Comparing it to driving someone's car is ludicrous. Some people are just afraid of looking bad. They should get over their fear, play their music, and let the chips fly.

 

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I like standing around the throngs of tourists in Glacier Park and lurking in the background when they take pictures, and then confronting them for my $50 image use fee. It's really a great scene when they speak poor English.


A friend and I made a day trip over to Yosemite a few years ago, and spent a few hours on top of a boulder at the base of Bridal Veil Falls. We got a big laugh out of the groups of Asian tourists that trekked down the trail to stop, take pictures, and turn right around and go back. Off they went to the next photo op. I hope they were enjoying what they were seeing, but they sure didn't seem to care about anything but taking pictures, especially of each other, with the falls as a backdrop.

 

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  posted on 9/3/2010 at 01:57 PM
I respect the artists right to control their own image. I think, however, that when it comes to pictures and/or video taken with simple point and shoot cameras they are being shortsighted. The vast majority of people who shoot video clips at concerts do not tape the entire show and post their clips on You Tube for free. I do so myself on the few ocassions that I am close enough to shoot decent video. In my view, especially with the partnership with Facebook, it is an excellent way for the artist to get it's message out there and it is free publicity. I guess this is why even though video is supposedly banned, the artists never make you tube take the videos down. Now video shot by someone else such as something pilfered from a film or tv program is a different story. That should never be put up and should be taken down if discovered.

Just to be clear I realize the artists have the right to forbid video and or photography and of course audio recording. I just think they are foolish to do so.

 

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  posted on 9/3/2010 at 03:36 PM
It wasn't too long ago that you wouldn't even consider bringing a camera to any concert. I remember the first time we saw the Derek Trucks Band. There was a guy with a video camera set up on a tripod.

I asked him if the band was making a video and he told me it's his own personal camera and that the band allows cameras, as well as audio and video taping. I had never heard that before. Of course he was correct.

Derek was fantastic that night by the way, and we've been his fans ever since. I'd like to see that video now. It was at the Carefree Theater in West Palm Beach if anyone here took it. Hahaha.

 

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  posted on 9/3/2010 at 03:48 PM
Please, no pictures or video ???

Sometimes the artist and the venue can be at odds on this "policy". The one that comes to mind almost immediately is Humphrey's by the Bay in San Diego. The Venue has signs posted everywhere that state "NO CAMERAS OR RECORDING DEVICES ALLOWED"..but plenty of artists come through there that have policies that allow for taping...Nevertheless, the yellow jackets (Security), under the employ of Humphrey's will take any recording device they see in use...

What to do, what to do.....

 

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