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  posted on 8/21/2010 at 08:59 PM
Click the link and when the map comes up hit PLAY...

http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html

 

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  posted on 8/21/2010 at 09:16 PM
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Click the link and when the map comes up hit PLAY...

http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html


It defiantly reflects what has happen in Georgia. Not a pretty site for sure….

 

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  posted on 8/22/2010 at 01:16 PM
It's 8.2 right now here in good ole New York.

 

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  posted on 8/22/2010 at 01:23 PM
Fricking amazing. We're 11 something here in the Tampa Bay area. And of course those figures are only from the ones able to collect unemployment benefits.
I'm sure it's all Obama's fault.

 

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  posted on 8/22/2010 at 04:02 PM
over 500,000 new jobless claims last month. It is getting worse by the day.
If the tax-cuts are not renewed, better hold on to your milk cow and shovel.
Rough times are ahead.

 

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  posted on 8/22/2010 at 04:10 PM
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over 500,000 new jobless claims last month. It is getting worse by the day.
If the tax-cuts are not renewed, better hold on to your milk cow and shovel.
Rough times are ahead.


Ahead???? Please don't try to make me believe the last 8 years where better.....because they are what lead us to today. Ya know ya got to reap just what you sow....Your 2 votes for the republican got us here. Now we are trying to dig out but all of the policies put in place by GW are coming to roost....the crops are in full bloom and we are eating from the labor of those policies....policies you voted for and supported....Policies that are going to take generations to correct....Please don't even try to make me believe we were in a better place just a few years ago because GW S#$%^&*()ed us for at least 30 years

 

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  posted on 8/22/2010 at 07:02 PM
Just be patient, people. The rich will be selling their sh*t for pennies on the dollar at yard sales, and paying us poor working stiffs to teach them how to heat a can of beans. Get yourself in a sustainable spot, and hunker down. This is going to be one hell of a ride.

 

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  posted on 8/22/2010 at 07:09 PM
Your starting to sound a little like Glen Beck

 

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  posted on 8/22/2010 at 07:12 PM
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Your starting to sound a little like Glen Beck


Glen Beck doesn't know the half of it. He thinks gold will have value.

 

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  posted on 8/22/2010 at 07:19 PM
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Your starting to sound a little like Glen Beck


or my ex-girlfriend in the North Carolina mountains. I think her family is preparing for a stand off with the Feds, when the doo doo hits the fan. One road in, one road out of her place. SCB, you're making me nervous.


I'm on the other side of the fence. I think the whole world is going to bust out in rainbow colors on Dec. 21, 2012, ushering in the Age of Aquarius.

But i also think the current institutions are going to come crashing down, as they already are, and all for the good. Growing pains, if you will.

 

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  posted on 8/22/2010 at 10:07 PM
The revolution will be televised.
Can you just imagine how much advertising time will cost?!

 

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Then I guess time took it's toll,cut me deep,cut me cold.
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over 500,000 new jobless claims last month. It is getting worse by the day.
If the tax-cuts are not renewed, better hold on to your milk cow and shovel.
Rough times are ahead.
The middle class is getting squuzed so we should cut the rich folks taxes. Now there's some brilliant logic for ya.
If the rich would exchange tax breaks for jobs to offset them, I'd say that might be a pretty good deal.

That map is scary as sh@t, to put it mildly.
Are we talking about the same rich people who are outsourcing jobs overseas to pad the bottom line?
You mean the same rich people who are tired of being vilified because they want to keep their businesses alive against foreign competition with lower costs, and at the same time face a rapacious govt that's alienating business at every turn? Then yeah, I guess it might be those people. And if you were in their shoes, with their options, you'd do the same thing.

It's time we woke up to the fact that we don't have a right to jobs, the businesses that create them, or a vibrant economy. If you don't set the conditions for those things to thrive, they will find places that treat them better. That, in a nutshell, is why unemployment and this recession is dragging on, and won't get better till these conditions are reversed.

 

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over 500,000 new jobless claims last month. It is getting worse by the day.
If the tax-cuts are not renewed, better hold on to your milk cow and shovel.
Rough times are ahead.
The middle class is getting squuzed so we should cut the rich folks taxes. Now there's some brilliant logic for ya.
If the rich would exchange tax breaks for jobs to offset them, I'd say that might be a pretty good deal.

That map is scary as sh@t, to put it mildly.
Are we talking about the same rich people who are outsourcing jobs overseas to pad the bottom line?
You mean the same rich people who are tired of being vilified because they want to keep their businesses alive against foreign competition with lower costs, and at the same time face a rapacious govt that's alienating business at every turn? Then yeah, I guess it might be those people. And if you were in their shoes, with their options, you'd do the same thing.

It's time we woke up to the fact that we don't have a right to jobs, the businesses that create them, or a vibrant economy. If you don't set the conditions for those things to thrive, they will find places that treat them better. That, in a nutshell, is why unemployment and this recession is dragging on, and won't get better till these conditions are reversed.
Yeah, OK, you are going to have a vibrant economy when jobs are outsourced and unemployment remains high in this country. Why does everyone have to sacrifice except for the corporations?
Huh? You mean the same corporations that have been forced to lay off thousands, trim everywhere, in order to survive this downturn? You think companies want to be so inwardly focused and fight for survival instead of making plans and working for growth? Do you really think they're gleefully making decisions to lay off their coworkers, friends, and fellow countrymen in preference for unknown foreigners if the competitive environment didn't force these actions?

Its time to understand that we have no right to, and can not force, businesses to continue to exist here in the US just because we think they should. The "job" is owned by the business owner(s), who can do with it as they like. Understanding and improving the conditions whereby business owners feel they can survive profitably against competition is the only way to ensure the continued existence of jobs, wealth creation, tax revenue, and a healthy economy.

 

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  posted on 8/23/2010 at 11:03 AM
Over 10% here ..

 

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over 500,000 new jobless claims last month. It is getting worse by the day.
If the tax-cuts are not renewed, better hold on to your milk cow and shovel.
Rough times are ahead.
The middle class is getting squuzed so we should cut the rich folks taxes. Now there's some brilliant logic for ya.
If the rich would exchange tax breaks for jobs to offset them, I'd say that might be a pretty good deal.

That map is scary as sh@t, to put it mildly.
Are we talking about the same rich people who are outsourcing jobs overseas to pad the bottom line?
You mean the same rich people who are tired of being vilified because they want to keep their businesses alive against foreign competition with lower costs, and at the same time face a rapacious govt that's alienating business at every turn? Then yeah, I guess it might be those people. And if you were in their shoes, with their options, you'd do the same thing.

It's time we woke up to the fact that we don't have a right to jobs, the businesses that create them, or a vibrant economy. If you don't set the conditions for those things to thrive, they will find places that treat them better. That, in a nutshell, is why unemployment and this recession is dragging on, and won't get better till these conditions are reversed.
Yeah, OK, you are going to have a vibrant economy when jobs are outsourced and unemployment remains high in this country. Why does everyone have to sacrifice except for the corporations?
Huh? You mean the same corporations that have been forced to lay off thousands, trim everywhere, in order to survive this downturn? You think companies want to be so inwardly focused and fight for survival instead of making plans and working for growth? Do you really think they're gleefully making decisions to lay off their coworkers, friends, and fellow countrymen in preference for unknown foreigners if the competitive environment didn't force these actions?

Its time to understand that we have no right to, and can not force, businesses to continue to exist here in the US just because we think they should. The "job" is owned by the business owner(s), who can do with it as they like. Understanding and improving the conditions whereby business owners feel they can survive profitably against competition is the only way to ensure the continued existence of jobs, wealth creation, tax revenue, and a healthy economy.
Good. Then don't complain about the economy or unemployment if this is your attitude. Some day these companies will learn that every job they outsource causes one less consumer to buy their products. If they wish to protect the bottom line, which seems to be their only job, they need to learn to keep their potential customers working.

Really, Fuji, why do you take the side of business over the people every time?
Otie, I want everyone to do well. I want full employment and a healthy middle class. Heck; I want over-employment so that businesses are competing for good employees and forced to pay them better.

But I've spent enough time with business owners small and large to know that their continued existence is far more difficult than most of their employees could ever imagine. Add to that an out-of-control govt who places more obstacles and burdens on most of them everyday, while spewing their tax money like a fire-hose upon a few select, politically-favored businesses.

I agree with your equation of lost job = lost customer. But in a broader, global sense, there's a bigger equation that's also true: unfriendly, un-profitable business environment = a country without jobs or businesses.

 

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over 500,000 new jobless claims last month. It is getting worse by the day.
If the tax-cuts are not renewed, better hold on to your milk cow and shovel.
Rough times are ahead.
The middle class is getting squuzed so we should cut the rich folks taxes. Now there's some brilliant logic for ya.
If the rich would exchange tax breaks for jobs to offset them, I'd say that might be a pretty good deal.

That map is scary as sh@t, to put it mildly.
Are we talking about the same rich people who are outsourcing jobs overseas to pad the bottom line?
You mean the same rich people who are tired of being vilified because they want to keep their businesses alive against foreign competition with lower costs, and at the same time face a rapacious govt that's alienating business at every turn? Then yeah, I guess it might be those people. And if you were in their shoes, with their options, you'd do the same thing.

It's time we woke up to the fact that we don't have a right to jobs, the businesses that create them, or a vibrant economy. If you don't set the conditions for those things to thrive, they will find places that treat them better. That, in a nutshell, is why unemployment and this recession is dragging on, and won't get better till these conditions are reversed.
Yeah, OK, you are going to have a vibrant economy when jobs are outsourced and unemployment remains high in this country. Why does everyone have to sacrifice except for the corporations?
Huh? You mean the same corporations that have been forced to lay off thousands, trim everywhere, in order to survive this downturn? You think companies want to be so inwardly focused and fight for survival instead of making plans and working for growth? Do you really think they're gleefully making decisions to lay off their coworkers, friends, and fellow countrymen in preference for unknown foreigners if the competitive environment didn't force these actions?

Its time to understand that we have no right to, and can not force, businesses to continue to exist here in the US just because we think they should. The "job" is owned by the business owner(s), who can do with it as they like. Understanding and improving the conditions whereby business owners feel they can survive profitably against competition is the only way to ensure the continued existence of jobs, wealth creation, tax revenue, and a healthy economy.


Labor and Health care costs are the major root cause of corporations leaving for low cost countries. They already pay little if any taxes here because they have off shore tax havens. They would like nothing more then to only pay you a chicken and a bar of soap and no health care benefits for wages, that is why they are leaving, it has zero to do with the tax rate. Even if the tax cuts are allowed to expire they are still getting a real sweet deal. Why anyone not in the wealthiest 1% would defend the tax cut extension is mind boggling.

 

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  posted on 8/23/2010 at 12:11 PM
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That, in a nutshell, is why unemployment and this recession is dragging on, and won't get better till these conditions are reversed.



Let's go back way further than that, Rich, to when the powers that be convinced people they were bettor off getting a "job" with a regular paycheck than learning a trade, or a profession, and hanging out their own shingle. Being your own man went out of style in the past 75 years or so, and now a huge flock of sheep are waiting patiently for corporate to "give them a job" again. The unemployed would be far better off to figure out another way to go that doesn't require them getting up every day and marching to some other drummer's beat. But unfortunately most of them have a "lifestyle" they have to uphold, they are bought and paid for by the system, and the idea of venturing into unknown territory scares the hell out of them. They are good sheep, and have been trained well.

 

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  posted on 8/23/2010 at 01:00 PM
I think you make a good point SCB. I believe we also lost our way a bit as people when we stopped valuing jobs where people use their hands versus sitting in front of a computer and pushing dollar signs around.

I would counter just a bit though regarding business formation. The 90's saw an explosion of new business creation, powered in large part due to visions of what could be done with the internet. Yeah, it eventually had its meltdown too, but many of them have survived or morphed into entities that still exist. As a side note; I heard a comment the other day that claimed that a large part of why we were able to balance our budget as a country during the late 90's was due to the immense tax revenues collected off the dot.com bubble.

I think our current unemployment situation is also driving a lot of people to consider some small business or work-from-home solution to creating income. It may not be the 50's with limitless opportunities, but that spirit of creation is still a strong factor in many Americans minds, thankfully.

 

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I think you make a good point SCB. I believe we also lost our way a bit as people when we stopped valuing jobs where people use their hands versus sitting in front of a computer and pushing dollar signs around.

I would counter just a bit though regarding business formation. The 90's saw an explosion of new business creation, powered in large part due to visions of what could be done with the internet. Yeah, it eventually had its meltdown too, but many of them have survived or morphed into entities that still exist. As a side note; I heard a comment the other day that claimed that a large part of why we were able to balance our budget as a country during the late 90's was due to the immense tax revenues collected off the dot.com bubble.

I think our current unemployment situation is also driving a lot of people to consider some small business or work-from-home solution to creating income. It may not be the 50's with limitless opportunities, but that spirit of creation is still a strong factor in many Americans minds, thankfully.


I agree, Rich. That's why I think if the current economic situation causes more people to rethink how they provide for themselves, it will turn out to be a good thing. I'd love to see more small, locally owned businesses cropping up. That is what will get us through in the end.

 

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