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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 12:11 AM
On CBS Sunday Morning yesterday there was a piece on the Gulf Oil Spill. In the piece it was stated that 40 Million gallons of oil have spilled in the past almost 2 months into the gulf.

The increidble thing is for all the oil that has spilt and all the damage it has caused 40 million gallons would only provide enough energy for the US to run everything for one hour.

One Hour??? That is fricken scary.

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 12:16 AM
Yeah, I heard that too. High price to pay for an hour of energy isn't it.

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 12:19 AM
Here is the link for Fast Draw segement from CBS Sunday Morning

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6554415n&tag=cbsnewsSectionsArea .1

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 12:32 AM
We live in a mobile society. We don't like living in little centralized cubes next to the rail line that takes us to work.

It's hard to think of a really good synonym for FREEDOM, but mobility comes pretty close.

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 12:37 AM
I just can't equate man's greedy 'needs' with the damage done to this earth from ALL sources of energy. At the very least it behooves us all to rethink our gluttony of natural resources. Maybe we need some of them....but we damn sure don't need this much.

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 03:25 PM
God, I am having a hard time dealing with all this self-matyrdom.

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 09:09 PM
40 million gallons, a little over an hour of US oil consumption?

Would it make anyone feel better if they said 40 million gallons is as much oil as China consumes in almost 3 hours? Or if it is the amount of oil Canada consumes in approx 10 hours? Is that equally insane?






 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 09:10 PM
We're a greedy, gluttonous society, with little care of the impact we are making on the planet. We won't be able to live like this forever, as we are finding out.

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 09:39 PM
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40 million gallons, a little over an hour of US oil consumption?

Would it make anyone feel better if they said 40 million gallons is as much oil as China consumes in almost 3 hours? Or if it is the amount of oil Canada consumes in approx 10 hours? Is that equally insane?


Nebish I didn't post stat to slam the states. Sorry if it looks that way. Go Ducks

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 09:44 PM
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40 million gallons, a little over an hour of US oil consumption?

Would it make anyone feel better if they said 40 million gallons is as much oil as China consumes in almost 3 hours? Or if it is the amount of oil Canada consumes in approx 10 hours? Is that equally insane?

I'll answer your question....yes....to do that kind of damage to an entire region for a few hours of fuel anywhere is totally insane.






 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 10:04 PM
Nobody wants the kind of damage that is occurring.

I do take exception with the CBS news report linked here that frames the situation as vilification of the USA exclusive of the energy demands of other countries of the world. China consumes 13,704,250 gallons of oil an hour (2008), Canada consumes 4 m gall an hour (2008). So what really is the difference if the amount of oil estimated leaked so far amounts to little over one hour of daily consumption or little over 3 hours, or 10 hours? It doesn't. It is an epic environmental disaster, alot of oil any way you look at it without the need to vilify the consumption of our nation or any other for that matter. The need for oil is a fact of life around the globe.

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 10:59 PM
I think I said sorry if you misinterpreted but in any case I guess I need to explain why I posted the stat and the link.

The stat was posted becasue I and many others are amazed that 40 million gallons of oil will only power a nation of 300 million people for an hour. Its not a slam its a stat and an incredible one at that.

The link was posted to backup my post and I thought it would be interesting for some to see the whole piece.

I'm glad CBS pointed out US stat as they are an american network. Did you expect them to talk about China or Canada and leave out the fact that the US uses 25% of all the worlds oil with only 5% of the worlds population?

Now thats bad.

 

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I think I said sorry if you misinterpreted but in any case I guess I need to explain why I posted the stat and the link.

The stat was posted becasue I and many others are amazed that 40 million gallons of oil will only power a nation of 300 million people for an hour. Its not a slam its a stat and an incredible one at that.

The link was posted to backup my post and I thought it would be interesting for some to see the whole piece.

I'm glad CBS pointed out US stat as they are an american network. Did you expect them to talk about China or Canada and leave out the fact that the US uses 25% of all the worlds oil with only 5% of the worlds population?

Now thats bad.




It's a fine topic to post and discuss, I just don't appreciate the angle of the story and have expressed my feelings accordingly.

Is it bad that we use 25% of the oil yet only have 5% of the population? Why? Should natural resources be divided up proportionately to all the people of the world? Is this some kind of global creed? Are nations not free to sell their resources to other nations that need it to build, grow and sustain their economies? There is a commodity that our nation needs and wants and to date there are other nations willing to sell this commodity to us.

As I've made clear before, I think that our energy needs should be furnished by us as much as possible. I don't like importing oil more than I like importing anything else. Until change takes place our population is what it is and our energy needs are what they are. Petroleum based products have had an amazing effect on the growth of our nation. I feel no need to apologize that we use so much yet have so few people, obviously others feel differently.

The oil spill disaster in the gulf is horrible. But again, as I've said I really don't see how it makes much difference if the amount of oil leaked to date is just enough to supply our country or any other country with some small amount of time. Whether it is one hour or three hours, or ten, or whatever figure, it makes the oil spill event no more or no less tragic.

40,000,000 gallons is plenty bad in and of itself.


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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 11:51 PM
News people are looking for angles to report the information. I can't see why anyone would take any issue with something as benign as pointing out the massive disaster is a result of an amount of oil that would provide energy for this country for one hour. It puts it in perspective....sort of like saying a billion dollar bills stacked up would be ...however many feet....or if a trillion dollars was seconds it would be a time span that would take us back to the days of Jesus.

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 09:33 AM
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We're a greedy, gluttonous society, with little care of the impact we are making on the planet.


Really?

Top ten worst polluted places (alphabetical):

Sumquayit, Azerbijan
Linfen, China
Tianyang, China
Sukinda, China
Vapi, India
La Aroya, Peru
Dzerzhinsk, Russia
Norilsk, Russia
Chernobyl, Ukraine
Kabwe, Zambia

Probably a few typos....There were about 20 more places listed and the United States didn't crack the list.

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 10:54 AM
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We live in a mobile society. We don't like living in little centralized cubes next to the rail line that takes us to work.

It's hard to think of a really good synonym for FREEDOM, but mobility comes pretty close.




That's where I live.

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 10:57 AM
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Really?




Yes, really.

Ever heard of Bhopal, India?

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 11:12 AM
Yes. I just seems that if what you say is true, some American cities would have made the list of the most polluted places, that's all. None to be found.

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 11:23 AM
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Yes. I just seems that if what you say is true, some American cities would have made the list of the most polluted places, that's all. None to be found.


alloak, sometimes I wonder if you really are as dense as you seem, or just act that way for fun.

You often remind me of one of my sisters, who decided to get married at age 16. I told her, "You're too young to get married." She replied, "I guess I'm not. I'm getting married."

I'm sure her logic, and yours, is perfectly sensible in your minds. When you have a position to defend, and don't care whether your defense carries any weight or makes any sense, you can debate till the mule comes home and think you are holding your own.

You know you're wrong, but you aren't ready to consider that fact, so you throw out the most lame and senseless arguments, even in the face of a multitude of people showing you that you are wrong. This reminds me of something an old black man told me many years ago. I thought at the time we were talking about someone else, but later I realized he was talking to me, too. He said, "If a man is wrong, and knows he's wrong, you can hep 'im. But if he's wrong, and thinks he's right, you can't do a damn thing with 'im."

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 11:30 AM
I don't see my statement as being problematic, but thanks for the input.

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 11:33 AM
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I don't see my statement as being problematic, but thanks for the input.


I'm sure you don't.

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 11:42 AM
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I don't see my statement as being problematic, but thanks for the input.


I'm sure you don't.


You make a pretty wild claim that as a society we have little care of the impact we are making on the planet. Any evidence to base that on?

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 11:57 AM
It's obvious we have two clearly defined sides to this issue. Those of us who would like to have less dependence on fuels that are destroying this planet and those who want to use it up as fast as we can. Quite frankly, when I sat here the other day and listened to my 15 year old grandson wondering if he'd ever see the beaches like he remembered them again in his lifetime, it made an impact on me.

 

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I don't see my statement as being problematic, but thanks for the input.


I'm sure you don't.


You make a pretty wild claim that as a society we have little care of the impact we are making on the planet. Any evidence to base that on?


There is plenty of evidence all around you. Open your eyes. That isn't a "wild claim." It is the truth. If you can't see it, remove your blinders.

 

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I don't see my statement as being problematic, but thanks for the input.


I'm sure you don't.


You make a pretty wild claim that as a society we have little care of the impact we are making on the planet. Any evidence to base that on?


There is plenty of evidence all around you. Open your eyes.



You mean evidence like this?

http://www.thegoodairlady.com/air_pollution_decrease_000242.html

 

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