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  posted on 5/28/2010 at 09:01 AM
U.S. official: Flow of oil from spill has stopped
But BP says it will be 48 hours before success of 'top kill' will be known

WASHINGTON - The flow of oil from the broken well in the Gulf of Mexico has stopped, the U.S. incident commander Admiral Thad Allen claimed Friday, but BP warned it would be a further 48 hours before it was known whether the "top kill" procedure had been successful.

The next 12 to 18 hours would be "very critical" in the effort to stop the gusher which has caused the worst oil spill in U.S. history, Allen said on ABC's Good Morning America show.

BP's CEO Tony Hayward told NBC's TODAY show that the top kill attempt, which involves shooting heavy drilling mud into the blown-out well 5,000 feet underwater, was "proceeding pretty well according to plan."

But the exec maintained that the procedure, which has never been attempted before so deep underwater, still had only a 60-70 percent chance of success, although some of the risks had been reduced.

"It will probably be another 48 hours before we know if we've met the success," Hayward added.

If the procedure works, BP will inject cement into the well to seal it permanently.

If the "top kill" attempt doesn't work, BP says it has a number of backup plans. Either way, crews will continue to drill two relief wells, considered the only surefire way to stop the leak

Obama was to attend a briefing Friday at the U.S. Coast Guard Station in Grand Isle, La., by Adm. Thad Allen, who is overseeing the response to the spill.

It would be Obama's second visit to the region since the disaster began with an April 20 explosion at the drilling rig Deepwater Horizon that killed 11 workers.

He seized ownership Thursday of what he called a "tremendous catastrophe," after weeks of allowing Cabinet members take the public lead as the crippled BP PLC well spewed millions of gallons of crude oil into the Gulf from nearly a mile below the surface.

"I take responsibility. It is my job to make sure that everything is done to shut this down," Obama declared at a White House news conference dominated by the spill.

For everyone, the stakes grew even higher Thursday as government scientists said the oil has been flowing at a rate 2 1/2 to five times higher than what BP and the U.S. Coast Guard initially estimated.

Even using the most conservative estimate, that means about 18 million gallons have spilled so far. In the worst-case scenario, 39 million gallons have leaked. The previous largest U.S. oil spill, the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster, spilled nearly 11 million gallons.

Huge new plume
In another troubling discovery, marine scientists said they have spotted a huge new plume of what they believe to be oil deep beneath the Gulf, stretching 22 miles from the leaking well head northeast toward Mobile Bay, Alabama.


They fear it could have resulted from using chemicals a mile below the surface to break up the oil.

Obama, meanwhile, has been under mounting criticism even from members of his own Democratic Party for seeming aloof to what could be the biggest environmental tragedy in U.S. history.

Asked about inevitable comparisons between his administration's handling of the disaster with his predecessor's response to Hurricane Katrina in 2005, which flooded New Orleans and other areas, Obama said: "I'll leave it to you guys to make those comparisons. ... What I'm thinking about is how do you solve the problem?"

Comparisons to former President George W. Bush's paltry response to the devastating storm have come mainly from opposition Republicans.

"I'm confident people are going to look back and say this administration was on top of what was an unprecedented crisis," he said. "We've got to get it right."

Obama is struggling for high ground in the political wars raging in the months before the November congressional elections, where his Democratic majorities in both House and Senate are in danger.

He has passed through bruising legislative sessions and took a notable battering from Republicans as he pushed through health care overhaul.

Now Obama is struggling to keep congressional Democrats focused on financial regulatory reform while trying to smooth the Senate confirmation of his second Supreme Court nominee.

The president, who campaigned on a promise to change the way Washington does business, blasted a "scandalously close relationship" he said has persisted between Big Oil and government regulators.

Conceding that "people are going to be frustrated" until the well is capped, Obama said he would use the full force of the federal government to extract damages from BP.

"We will demand they pay every dime they owe for the damage they've done and the painful losses they've caused," Obama said.

He spoke shortly after the head of the troubled agency that oversees offshore drilling resigned under pressure. The departure of Minerals Management Service Director Elizabeth Birnbaum was announced just before Obama's news conference began.



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  posted on 5/28/2010 at 09:18 AM
I hope this is true - that the leak has stopped. I don't care who did it or who gets credit, either. I hope and pray that the oil industry, the federal government and all of us oil consumers learn from this.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2010 at 10:23 AM
I agree completely, Rusty. We know who owns the well, and who should pay for the clean up. Now let's just get it done. And keep our fingers crossed this fix holds.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2010 at 10:26 AM
I hope the flow has stopped. But even so this disaster sadly won't be over for many, many years, if ever.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2010 at 10:30 AM
Some of that oil will still be in the gulf when we are all dead and gone, no doubt about it.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2010 at 10:39 AM
As a point of reference, here's a report from NOAA last dated 2006 addressing the question "Has Prince William Sound Recovered From the Spill?" The Exxon Valdez spill occured in 1989, so this report is looking at the situation 17 years after the event.

http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/topic_subtopic_entry.php?RECORD_KEY%28 entry_subtopic_topic%29=entry_id,subtopic_id,topic_id&entry_id(entry_su btopic_topic)=258&subtopic_id(entry_subtopic_topic)=13&topic_id(ent ry_subtopic_topic)=1

 

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Some of that oil will still be in the gulf when we are all dead and gone, no doubt about it.


Over time, nature heals itself. It can be very forgiving of man's screw-ups. Eventually, some of the oil will settle back into the earth or become dissipated throughout the ocean. In the meantime, we'll have to clean up as best we can.

With our need and appetite for oil, I cannot see suspending future drilling in the Gulf. If anything, we'll probably need to explore it more. I say this as a devout dirt-loving, river-licking, tree-hugger. Hopefully, the oil industry will take it upon itself to develop more and better measures of prevention of future catastrophes.

As I've said before though, we can blame the industrial giants - but they wouldn't be out there drilling if we weren't buying and using gasoline like there was no tomorrow. It's on all of us.

 

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Over time, nature heals itself. It can be very forgiving of man's screw-ups. Eventually, some of the oil will settle back into the earth or become dissipated throughout the ocean. In the meantime, we'll have to clean up as best we can.

Probably true, Rusty, but my real concern is the irreparable damage that may have been done to the already fragile ecosystem of the Gulf wetlands. While nature generally does heal itself from natural disasters, most of the damage to the wetlands is man-made and I'm not sure nature is up to the task. Between dredging, redirecting the flow of the Mississippi, and building levees we've already created the formula for the rapid loss of wetland areas. As a result sea water incursion into the fresh water environment has already harmfully altered the ecosystem. Now we've dumped oil on top of the whole mess. I think we're asking a lot of nature in this case. Sorry about going off topic, but the situation in the Gulf coast wetlands is something I care about.

 

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Some of that oil will still be in the gulf when we are all dead and gone, no doubt about it.


Over time, nature heals itself. It can be very forgiving of man's screw-ups. Eventually, some of the oil will settle back into the earth or become dissipated throughout the ocean. In the meantime, we'll have to clean up as best we can.

With our need and appetite for oil, I cannot see suspending future drilling in the Gulf. If anything, we'll probably need to explore it more. I say this as a devout dirt-loving, river-licking, tree-hugger. Hopefully, the oil industry will take it upon itself to develop more and better measures of prevention of future catastrophes.

As I've said before though, we can blame the industrial giants - but they wouldn't be out there drilling if we weren't buying and using gasoline like there was no tomorrow. It's on all of us.




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I do not fault the people of this nation.
I fault the government 1st then BP. obama should take a major portion of the blame
due to his extremely poor response to this nations worst disaster.
We must drill to support industry, our military, and the everyday lives of this nations citizens. Oil is a necessity so let's understand that our committment should be one of
support, safety, and advancing technology to better utilize that resource.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2010 at 11:40 AM
I suppose blaming Bush and Cheney who set the stage for this disaster would be out of the question?

 

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  posted on 5/28/2010 at 11:48 AM
That hasn't been out of the question for anything else. Why stop now?
 

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I do not fault the people of this nation.
I fault the government 1st then BP. obama should take a major portion of the blame
due to his extremely poor response to this nations worst disaster.
We must drill to support industry, our military, and the everyday lives of this nations citizens. Oil is a necessity so let's understand that our committment should be one of
support, safety, and advancing technology to better utilize that resource.



Good grief, Brent. Obama didn't cause this spill. And do you really think this is the nation's worst disaster? What do you think he should have done that he didn't do? I don't think he even owns a boat.

 

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Forget it Ann. These guys will have their mouths on the phalluses of Bush and Cheney for the rest of their lives.

 

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Bush and Cheney laid the groundwork for this to happen. That's fine and let's assume that's true....Eighteen months is not enough time to correct the situation? Obama might be the only President to ever serve four years without his tenure ever actually starting.
 

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Some of that oil will still be in the gulf when we are all dead and gone, no doubt about it.


Over time, nature heals itself. It can be very forgiving of man's screw-ups. Eventually, some of the oil will settle back into the earth or become dissipated throughout the ocean. In the meantime, we'll have to clean up as best we can.

With our need and appetite for oil, I cannot see suspending future drilling in the Gulf. If anything, we'll probably need to explore it more. I say this as a devout dirt-loving, river-licking, tree-hugger. Hopefully, the oil industry will take it upon itself to develop more and better measures of prevention of future catastrophes.

As I've said before though, we can blame the industrial giants - but they wouldn't be out there drilling if we weren't buying and using gasoline like there was no tomorrow. It's on all of us.





They shouldn't drill one more drop of oil from deep off shore oil rigs until they add every safeguard available. That means every single safeguard that they have to have in Europe. If they keep drilling from these rigs without making them safer and ensuring that this won't happen again then history will repeat itself. If we haven't learned our lesson by now, shame on us!!!
Great post. Agree with 100% of it.

 

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I do not fault the people of this nation.
I fault the government 1st then BP. obama should take a major portion of the blame
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We must drill to support industry, our military, and the everyday lives of this nations citizens. Oil is a necessity so let's understand that our committment should be one of
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You are some piece of work! Exactly what more could our government have done about this??? I want specifics!!!!!!! What didn't they do that they could have????? Specifics!!!!!

Maybe President Obama could have gone out with the Navy, donned a full Navy Seal wetsuit, dove into the Gulf and proclaimed 'Mission Accomplished' as the oil spews behind him. Sound familiar!!! All of this blame on the Obama administration for this disaster is nothing more than payback from the Bush defenders. I don't see anything else our government could have done to make this disaster any better.

 

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Bush and Cheney laid the groundwork for this to happen. That's fine and let's assume that's true....Eighteen months is not enough time to correct the situation? Obama might be the only President to ever serve four years without his tenure ever actually starting.


You're another piece of work, alloak. What do you think Obama has been doing while he has been in office? Posting on music websites all day? Have you already forgotten what kind of shape the economy has been in? Orr that we have two wars going on that your imbecile hero left us?

I swear, I try to keep in mind that most of the people who post here are smart people, and fun to hang out with, but some of you come off like complete f*cking idiots.

I guess now if a volcano erupts, the usual suspects will be blaming Obama because he's had 16 months to do something to stop it.

OK, rant over. Back to digging holes for the garden.

 

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Bush and Cheney laid the groundwork for this to happen. That's fine and let's assume that's true....Eighteen months is not enough time to correct the situation? Obama might be the only President to ever serve four years without his tenure ever actually starting.



Stop trying to act like the Bush years never happened and that Obama was handed over Shangri La!!! With the myriad of problems the last administration handed over to the current administration, regulations for the oil companies were probably far, far down on the to do list. Republicans would have blasted the Obama administration had they tried to take on that issue with everything else going on in our country. They have already accused him left and right of trying to do too much and shoving too much down our throats.

The same Republicans would also have been fighting tooth and nail against any more regulations for these oil companies anyway. The Sarah Palins of the world would have been screaming, 'how dare he place more regulations on the oil industry'! Drill Baby Drill!!!!!!!

 

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Bush and Cheney laid the groundwork for this to happen. That's fine and let's assume that's true....Eighteen months is not enough time to correct the situation? Obama might be the only President to ever serve four years without his tenure ever actually starting.


You're another piece of work, alloak. What do you think Obama has been doing while he has been in office? Posting on music websites all day?


As long as others are being blamed, I think that's a fair and legitimate question. What about the Department of Energy with over 100,000 employees that work for this President? A better question might be wondering what they do all day.

 

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Bush and Cheney laid the groundwork for this to happen. That's fine and let's assume that's true....Eighteen months is not enough time to correct the situation? Obama might be the only President to ever serve four years without his tenure ever actually starting.


You're another piece of work, alloak. What do you think Obama has been doing while he has been in office? Posting on music websites all day? Have you already forgotten what kind of shape the economy has been in? Orr that we have two wars going on that your imbecile hero left us?

I swear, I try to keep in mind that most of the people who post here are smart people, and fun to hang out with, but some of you come off like complete f*cking idiots.

I guess now if a volcano erupts, the usual suspects will be blaming Obama because he's had 16 months to do something to stop it.

OK, rant over. Back to digging holes for the garden.


When exactly did the economic downturn start, Allen? Was Mr. Bush and his administration solely responsible for all of that? There were serious problems within the market, especially in the tech segment before he took office. It might have gone as just a blip if gina hadn't flown those planes into the buildings in DC and NYC. Can we determine exactly when all the real estate and subprime market became overvalued? Was Mr. Bush responsible for the ARMs that crippled many people that bought way more house than they could afford?

The Bush administration was a huge disappointment, but they aren't responsible for all of the problems Mr Obama has faced in the last 17 mos. He, at some point has accountability. He has acknowledged such as late as yesterday.

Bill Clinton was a master of deflection and a master politician. Hillary would have been a much more capable president than what we have now. That is my opinion, no more, no less.

 

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Bush and Cheney laid the groundwork for this to happen. That's fine and let's assume that's true....Eighteen months is not enough time to correct the situation? Obama might be the only President to ever serve four years without his tenure ever actually starting.


You're another piece of work, alloak. What do you think Obama has been doing while he has been in office? Posting on music websites all day?


As long as others are being blamed, I think that's a fair and legitimate question. What about the Department of Energy with over 100,000 employees that work for this President? A better question might be wondering what they do all day.



From what I understand they are working hard on green initiatives and alternative energy to try and get us away from having to rely on so much oil. Someone had to finally start this initiative. It will take decades to complete but it has to start somewhere and this administration has started that process.

Unfortunately, we have no choice but to rely on oil for the foreseeable future. After this disaster they had better get off their @sses now and make sure that all precautions and safeguards are in place before they drill another drop in deep waters.

 

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Bush and Cheney laid the groundwork for this to happen. That's fine and let's assume that's true....Eighteen months is not enough time to correct the situation? Obama might be the only President to ever serve four years without his tenure ever actually starting.


You're another piece of work, alloak. What do you think Obama has been doing while he has been in office? Posting on music websites all day? Have you already forgotten what kind of shape the economy has been in? Orr that we have two wars going on that your imbecile hero left us?

I swear, I try to keep in mind that most of the people who post here are smart people, and fun to hang out with, but some of you come off like complete f*cking idiots.

I guess now if a volcano erupts, the usual suspects will be blaming Obama because he's had 16 months to do something to stop it.

OK, rant over. Back to digging holes for the garden.


When exactly did the economic downturn start, Allen? Was Mr. Bush and his administration solely responsible for all of that? There were serious problems within the market, especially in the tech segment before he took office. It might have gone as just a blip if gina hadn't flown those planes into the buildings in DC and NYC. Can we determine exactly when all the real estate and subprime market became overvalued? Was Mr. Bush responsible for the ARMs that crippled many people that bought way more house than they could afford?

The Bush administration was a huge disappointment, but they aren't responsible for all of the problems Mr Obama has faced in the last 17 mos. He, at some point has accountability. He has acknowledged such as late as yesterday.

Bill Clinton was a master of deflection and a master politician. Hillary would have been a much more capable president than what we have now. That is my opinion, no more, no less.


None of that has anything to do with what we are talking about, Alan. I'm not blaming anybody but BP for what happened in the gulf. Blaming Obamo because he didn't do anything to prevent it is just plain stupid. He's had a full plate from day one, and as the previous poster said, if he'd tried to also put more regulations on the oil industry, all of you on the right would have been screaming about that, too.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2010 at 04:09 PM
Not that long ago folks were saying Obama was a socialist dictator, wanting to put government in every aspect of everyone's life.

Now those exact same folks are condemning him for not taking control of everything.

 

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Does anyone here think the sea creatures and wildlife that are dying give a sh!t who is President?

 

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