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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 03:26 PM
For those of you that get your political leadership from the John Mellencamps and Blabs Streisands of the world, here is your latest missive;

http://barbrastreisand.com/statements.html

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 03:34 PM
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For those of you that get your political leadership from the John Mellencamps and Blabs Streisands of the world, here is your latest missive;

http://barbrastreisand.com/statements.html


Hey thanks for the link Derek! I was able to order my Barbara Streisand DVD, 2 CDs, 3 baseball caps, varsity jacket, women's nightshirt, hooded sweatshirt, wool jacket, polo shhirt, child's t-shirt and the topper, 2 Timeless coffee mugs. Woo Hoo!

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 03:47 PM
What's happening to freedom of speech in this country?

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 03:48 PM
Just order yourself a Babs nightshirt to show your support. That'll make ya feel better!

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 03:54 PM
Babs brings up the Kennedy documentary as a counterpoint but fails to point out the Kennedy was already deceased when the biography of him was released. I have no problem with releasing this movie, I just feel that the timing is off. The guy's still alive and suffering from a tragic disease. This is an attempt, and a weak one at that, to try to sway voters to the Democratic ticket byt painting Republicans in a negative light. I've said it before and I'll say it again, politics and politicians suck monkey cock.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 04:02 PM
I just don't understand Derek's obsession with this topic...will some made for tv movie really warp the world view of repub's? What are they scared of? Does the truth hurt that much?

Who cares about a stupid tv movie anyway?



 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 04:05 PM
Nobody has to paint Republicans in a negative light....they do a good enough job of it themselves already.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 04:06 PM
I support the left, though I'm leaning, leaning to the right.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 04:12 PM
Maybe you can be saved! Run Ronnie, Run!!!! lol

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 04:15 PM
The good thing about CBS canceling the movie is that we can finally close the door on that whole "Liberal Media" argument....CBS really showed it's true colors, buckling to the mighty GOP like they did....pretty funny, actually.....liberal media: you bet

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 04:21 PM
$640 Pentagon toilets seats; ketchup as a vegetable; union busting; firing striking air traffic controllers; Iran-Contra; selling arms to terrorist nations; trading arms for hostages; retreating from terrorists in Beirut; lying to Congress; financing an illegal war in Nicaragua; visiting Bitburg cemetery; a cozy relationship with Saddam Hussein; shredding documents; Ed Meese; Fawn Hall; Oliver North; James Watt; apartheid apologia; the savings and loan scandal; voodoo economics; record budget deficits; double digit unemployment; farm bankruptcies; trade deficits; astrologers in the White House; Star Wars; and influence peddling.

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 04:22 PM
O'Reilly basically took personal credit for the whole thing, saying it was his prediction and call for citizens to put pressure on CBS that led them to the decision. He kept insisting that the right wingers had absolutely nothing to do with it and it wasn't a political issue, but rather a moral one. WHAT A SPIN!!! LOL

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 04:29 PM
Actually, for me it is a moral issue, but I doubt that's why CBS did it.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 05:23 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, politics and politicians suck monkey cock.


Amen RonnieDobbs.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 05:28 PM
couple years ago i got a jefferson airplane show in...someone had tacked on an excerpt from a speech by then gov. ronnie...going on about the hippie trash in universities, and the devil music they "orgy" to...

priceless...

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 06:05 PM
You know it just might be possible that we take our politics from our own personal experience and we actually may have had political views before we were even aware that Barbara Stiesand or John Mellencamp had a political stand. I know that seems a little odd to some people but believe me it is true. Maybe they take their politics from me or maybe they made their own decisions based on their own experiences? Go figure it does happen! Anyway, this little miniseries is being moved to Showtime so if watching this movie is important to you then you still have your chance.

Frankly as AIG stated with the above examples I am already aware of his Presidency, I lived through it and I don't care to live through it again so I will pass on this movie.

Both my Sister who passed away 11 years ago and my Mother are/were nurses who worked in the geriatric field and under the Reagan Administration watched funding for patients (indigent) with Alzheimer’s get slashed to the bone and Bush is picking up were he left off. My grandmother died of Alzheimer’s and we cared for her in our family home until she could no longer feed herself. She forgot how to eat and then she forgot how to breathe. Yes, it is a terrible way to leave this world but his administration was certainly unsympathetic to the plight of geriatric care or care for the mentally ill. Don't you find it strange that on his watch that more mentally ill people then you have ever seen were suddenly all over the city streets? Everybody did not up and get mentally ill, the funding for the care of mentally ill was slashed which then put these folks out on the street. My Mother who is 72 is still a full time nurse who continues to work tirelessly for the elderly people in her care and she knows first hand how they continue to slash and burn funding for the care of our elderly. I wish he was as sympathetic to those at the time of his own Presidency.

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 06:31 PM
There's some good stuff here:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/presidents/ronald-reagan/

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 06:40 PM
homeless people appeared when reagan closed down the mental health service...

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 06:44 PM
That would be correct AIG! Thanks for paying attention!

 

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 08:11 PM
Newt, that is one brain dead article. The part about him getting shot is hilarious. Right?

Ronald Reagan knew exactly what he believed in, and that is what drove liberals nuts the most. It is obvious from the new book out now containing a thousand of his hand-written letters that he was eloquent, intelligent, and prolific.

Patty, I watched my grandpa die of Alzhiemers as well. I know what that is about.

Ronald Reagan understood the notion of lowering taxes, and of providing a positive outlook on life. At the end of Jimmy Carter's term we had 10% unemployment, 15% inflation rate, and a 22% interest rate. Add to that the fact that Carter had to get on the nations airwaves and bitch the country out for its bad attitude and 'malaise.' Reagan cleared the air of all of that, and also firmly knew of the evils of the Soviet empire and did not back down from confronting their world domination objectives. His actions were an integral part of the collapse of the Soviet Union. He believed in the power and talent of the American people when it came to things like entrepreneurship and industriousness. He did so like few others.

Now, I did not agree with everything Reagan did, damn sure was not a fan of Nancy, but compared to the other goof presidents he mostly had it right. So, the crap as it appeared above;

aiq mentions "double digit unemployment", that is a good one. Thanks aiq. When Reagan took over the unemployment rate at the end of JIMMY CARTER'S term as president was over 10%. By 1988, the last year of Reagan's presidency it was 5.5%. You got to laugh at this, and you see at the kind of crap that this movie was about and the mindset behind it.

Here is another great example.

aiq talks about, 'record budget deficits,' Reagan was up against an entrenched Democratic congress. Both sides , had been for years. They would not let Reagan enact the needed tax cuts and such to go forth without pork barrel concessions. Did the tax cuts cause the deficit? Interesting, especially in light of the fact that under Reagan the money coming into the government coffers more than DOUBLED in his two terms of office!! Reagan tried to fight the bloated budgets of the Democrats by asking for the line item veto, which the majority of state governors have in this country. The democrats fought him tooth and nail, and said "No."

In 1999 the Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan spoke of the "17 year" economic expansion that Clinton benefited from. As compared, of course, to the 10% unemployment, 15% inflation rate, and a 22% interest rate that Carter gave us when Reagan took office.

Iran-Contra, stupid idea. Nevertheless, the Boland amendment was unconstitutional.
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Passed in 12/8/82, the Boland Amendment attempted a highly unconstitutional prohibition of humanitarian and military aid to Nicaraguans and Miskito Indians who were resisting a Communist Dictator. While denying help to freedom-fighters and aiding Communists, Congress was also usurping a President's Foreign Policy Powers. Put Boland into perspective: think how such Congressional action would have been received during President Clinton's sorties into the Balkans. The Boland Amendment was properly and overwhelmingly defeated a few years later when its overturn in the courts became certain.

The underlying feature of the Boland Amendment was clear, the democrats were trying to do whatever they could do to stop Reagan from fighting and going against the communists in Nicaraugua and other parts of South America. Real simple. Reagan, however, forced the issue with the blatantly communist Sandinistas, as did GH Bush, and forced an election where the Ortega Brothers were stunned to see the Nicarauguans vote them out!! Never would have happened had the liberals had their way and the communists were left alone to secure their hold on the people.

Star Wars, as stated here by me many times, when the leftists and liberals were accepting over 2 million$ from the Soviet communists for the 'Nuclear Freeze Movement,' after the Soviets sent hundreds of nuclear SS-20's into eastern Europe for their advantage, Reagan saw through it and deployed the Pershing 2's that evened things out. He correctly identified that the Soviets, who had world domination by a communist workers union as a stated goal, that their lame economic conditions built on fear and control could not withstand an attempt to try and match the Star Wars deployment and R and D that we were doing. It was a ploy that worked.

James Watt was an idiot, aparthied should have been fought harder, Nancy was a bonehead, etc. But Reagan's belief in America was real, his belief in the defeat of communism was real, his belief in unleashing the talent of the American people through entrepreneurship was real, his belief in the line item veto was real.

When Reagan took over after Carter;
10% unemployment, 15% inflation rate, and a 22% interest rate.
When he left office;
6.9% unemployment, 8.9% inflation, 7% interest rate.

Communism stifled, boo hoo.

Not a perfect presidency by any means, but when you make stuff up for a CBS mini series with two noted liberal activists producing it, and James Brolin acting as Reagan, it had the stank all over it.

I honestly wish CBS would show it, the more I think about it, so all can see the extent of this leftist debacle.

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  posted on 11/5/2003 at 09:14 PM
Well, think he was a great prez, OK prez, bad prez, or evil prez, whatever... it really is tacky to air a "docudrama" with negative interpretations of events, while the subject is in his poor last diseased years. Man that is cold.

I am puzzled by the Evil Ronnie crowd. Man I publicly campaigned against Nixon and hated the man. I also voted for Ronnie. But even had I not, I would think it was sleazjourno...... without even seeing it....

Like it will be some big expose? Does anyone really think that? I would bet anything all it shows is hash / rehash / new insider opinion / and people with a $ to make on the bus... or real journalism would've tackled it first. Sorry, my dad was a journalist and I just see the integrity of that profession gone, and docudramas are the bad extent of that regardless of left / right / whatever slant. It is about making a true event into a palatable human interest story that will interest viewers, advertisers, and create attention / hence profit. Anyone really watch that stuff for information? I think everyone should campaign against it regardless of content, every bit of that Hollywood reality jive is comical.

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  posted on 11/6/2003 at 12:18 AM
Figures the evil liberal media would do something sinister like axe a miniseries at the behest of the RNC. Those bastards!

 

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  posted on 11/6/2003 at 10:40 AM
actually, i was just quoting a member of congress, who wrote a letter to CBS...

http://www.house.gov/dingell/Reagan.pdf

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Well, think he was a great prez, OK prez, bad prez, or evil prez, whatever... it really is tacky to air a "docudrama" with negative interpretations of events, while the subject is in his poor last diseased years. Man that is cold.


Will said bird72 - The same point I was trying to make. Let him die first.

 

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http://www.house.gov/dingell/Reagan.pdf





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