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  posted on 3/15/2010 at 08:37 AM
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Thoughts and prayers to 19-year-old Sox prospect Ryan Westmoreland who is undergoing dangerous brain surgery tomorrow in Arizona...

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2010/03/15/concern_ev ident_for_sox_westmoreland/

Here's prayers he comes back like Jon Lester did for the Sox.
I see Lester in the running for the Cy Young this year.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2010 at 10:28 AM
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I can relate as it reminds me of when they took down the old Boston Garden...I have photos (somewhere) that I took with a tear in my eye of when it was half torn down, with the inside totally exposed to anyone driving by on the old elevated expressway...I found this one online, the ones I took were similar...

 

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  posted on 3/16/2010 at 09:20 PM
Hey, what happened to the name of the thread?? lol

Is this the official ABB Board 2010 baseball thread or what?

I'm so excited for this upcoming season!!! I can't wait for opening day!

 

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  posted on 3/16/2010 at 11:06 PM
Red Sox prospect Ryan Westmoreland underwent successful brain surgery on Tuesday in Phoenix, the Red Sox announced.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100316&content_id=8813316

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 06:29 AM
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Red Sox prospect Ryan Westmoreland underwent successful brain surgery on Tuesday in Phoenix, the Red Sox announced.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100316&content_id=8813316

good to hear. Here's to a full recovery

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 09:57 AM
Hers's a vibe from the Evil Empire hoping Westmoreland recovers quickly.

On another note, with Hughes throwing well yesterday, and Aceves all spring, Joba probably has to have his A game today to remain in contention for the 5 spot.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 10:17 AM
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Hey, what happened to the name of the thread?? lol

Is this the official ABB Board 2010 baseball thread or what?

I'm so excited for this upcoming season!!! I can't wait for opening day!


The title of the thread will change from time to time. Keeps things...fresh.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 10:55 AM
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Hers's a vibe from the Evil Empire hoping Westmoreland recovers quickly.

On another note, with Hughes throwing well yesterday, and Aceves all spring, Joba probably has to have his A game today to remain in contention for the 5 spot.


There are some classy yankee fans, who knew? Clearly Westmoreland's situation trancends team allegences.

I should probably know this ("know thy enemy" ), but who's the setup man if Hughes goes to the rotation?

[Edited on 3/17/2010 by gondicar]

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 02:08 PM
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Hers's a vibe from the Evil Empire hoping Westmoreland recovers quickly.

On another note, with Hughes throwing well yesterday, and Aceves all spring, Joba probably has to have his A game today to remain in contention for the 5 spot.


There are some classy yankee fans, who knew? Clearly Westmoreland's situation trancends team allegences.

I should probably know this ("know thy enemy" ), but who's the setup man if Hughes goes to the rotation?

[Edited on 3/17/2010 by gondicar]


Chamberlain?


Maybe, but if he's not good enough to make the rotation is he really the best opt...oh wait, ok, well I guess that works for me!!

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 09:32 PM
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Hers's a vibe from the Evil Empire hoping Westmoreland recovers quickly.

On another note, with Hughes throwing well yesterday, and Aceves all spring, Joba probably has to have his A game today to remain in contention for the 5 spot.


There are some classy yankee fans, who knew? Clearly Westmoreland's situation trancends team allegences.

I should probably know this ("know thy enemy" ), but who's the setup man if Hughes goes to the rotation?

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Chamberlain?


Yes.
Just as I have been saying all along. This guy is just WAY to high strung to be a starter.
Hughes will be a good #5, IMHO.

Did you guys see that the Rangers manager tested positive for coke?
I didnt even realize they tested coaches..Makes sense I guess though.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 10:23 PM
Methinks it was something a bit stonger

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 06:17 AM
Good question about Chamberlain's pen effectiveness, I guess he threw 92-93 and had 3 good innings against a weak Phillie lineup. If he's going to be effective in the pen, he needs his velocity and attitude up another level, but that may come with warmer weather and more throwing.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 08:03 AM
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Hers's a vibe from the Evil Empire hoping Westmoreland recovers quickly.

On another note, with Hughes throwing well yesterday, and Aceves all spring, Joba probably has to have his A game today to remain in contention for the 5 spot.


There are some classy yankee fans, who knew? Clearly Westmoreland's situation trancends team allegences.

I should probably know this ("know thy enemy" ), but who's the setup man if Hughes goes to the rotation?

[Edited on 3/17/2010 by gondicar]


Chamberlain?


Yes.
Just as I have been saying all along. This guy is just WAY to high strung to be a starter.
Hughes will be a good #5, IMHO.

Did you guys see that the Rangers manager tested positive for coke?
I didnt even realize they tested coaches..Makes sense I guess though.


I thought the whole idea of the Joba rules were to get him ready to be a starter?
That was the reason to relagating him to so many innings over the last 2 years.
Hughs is not ready to be a regular 5th starter at this time either by the way the Yankees have been treating the Kids arms.
I would think it is Jobas spot to lose. Yankees are lucky to have 4-5 guys able to step into the 5th spot anyway
I also believe the kid Robinson is capable of becoming an 8th inning setup guy if needed.
if i recall, he came in with the bases loaded no one out in a playoff game, and got out of it unscathed.
Once the season starts you can throw all Spring records out the window anyway.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 08:15 AM
good points SpyNet. Within the Yankee world though, I believe there is real debate about whether Joba is best starting or relieving. Many think his mentality is better suited to the pen, and see him having the ability to succeed Rivera. Others, like Cashman I think, see the value of finding a #1-#2 starter in your organization so you have him in his prime, rather than getting him as a free agent in his 30's facing decline and arm troubles.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 08:36 AM
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good points SpyNet. Within the Yankee world though, I believe there is real debate about whether Joba is best starting or relieving. Many think his mentality is better suited to the pen, and see him having the ability to succeed Rivera. Others, like Cashman I think, see the value of finding a #1-#2 starter in your organization so you have him in his prime, rather than getting him as a free agent in his 30's facing decline and arm troubles.

After seeing him hit the scence in 07 the way he did, it is hard to argue he doesn't belong in the bullpen. He was just Stellar!
They did draft him as a starter though, and he has 4 legit pitches, like a starter should.
If he learns to harness all that energy, and control his emotions (to a point), he can be a dominant starter I think.
Not a bad problem to have huh? 4-5 guys able to take the 5th spot?

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 10:58 AM
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I also believe the kid Robinson is capable of becoming an 8th inning setup guy if needed.


I agree.. I like this guy alot. His attitude and demeanor remind me of Mo. Young Jedi is learning his lessons well

And Joba Rules was a total mistake from the beginning (IMO) Cashman and Co. really dropped the ball with this one. Just hope he can bounce back mentally.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 11:15 AM
To be fair the Yankees, the Joba rules need context. Joba doesn't have the minor league time many pitchers his age have because he was drafted late due to injury or something. The Yankees tried to split the baby with him by building up his innings at the major league level.

Chamberlain has only 88 minor league innings, by comparison, Phil Hughes has 330. Hughes spent the better part of 2 seasons, plus some shorter stints over 4 others there, Chamberlain appeared in the minors in only one year.

This is also a factor in why the Yankees believe he has not fully blossomed as a starter yet. His repertoire will sharpen with work. As a reliever, he could get by on 2 pitches, blazing fastball and biting slider - thrown at full strength for one inning. As a starter he needs at least 3 pitches, likely 4, and has to learn to pitch at less than 110%.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 01:20 PM
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Then the Yankees screwed up. You don't train a pitcher in the big leagues. That's what the minors are for. The Yankees don't have a good track record with young pitchers lately. Part of that goes back to Torre who overuses his favorite relievers. He ruined Scott Proctor by overusing him and now with the Dodgers he has done the same to Cory Wade and possibly Ramon Troncoso. He probably overused Wang with the Yankees as well. Pitchers usually take longer to develop than hitters. The Yankees would have been better off letting Chamberlain build up his arm in the minors. They could always find a scrap heap pitcher for a year or two while waiting for Chamberlain.


Torre blew out more arms than any manager I remember, Proctor being a GREAT example. However, it wasn't EVERY reliever. Nelson, Stanton, and especially Rivera thrived under him for long stretches. In fact, his use of Mariano has allowed him to be at the top of the game longer than most.

I disagree about training Chamberlain in the major leagues though. Sure, they made a mess of him last year, and ultimately may pay for it, but the goal for the Yankees was to win a World Series (accomplished) and lengthen his innings (accomplished) so whether he posted gaudy numbers is irrelevant. He put up what any 4th or 5th starter would and that's fine. The Yanks had the luxury of letting him grow at the ML level. When other teams rush guys into the rotation, it's just not in the spotlight the way it is in NY. And, other teams limit their early career innings by having them start season AA/AAA, then bring them up.

Come April, it may well be Hughes in the rotation and Joba in the pen, but I don't think you can blame that on the Joba rules. Blame his inconsistency last year on that, but not anything happening now.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 03:33 PM
The Yankees need to resign Kyle Farnsworth

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 10:40 PM
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The Yankees need to resign Kyle Farnsworth


LOL. I would be ok with that.

 

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  posted on 3/21/2010 at 04:33 PM
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Do not

You can have Javy Vazquez back though

 

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  posted on 3/21/2010 at 04:53 PM

Torre blew out more arms than any manager I remember,







What about Billy Martin?

Remember what he did to all those arms when he was with the A's?

 

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  posted on 3/21/2010 at 05:00 PM
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Torre blew out more arms than any manager I remember,







What about Billy Martin?

Remember what he did to all those arms when he was with the A's?


Both staements are right on the money.
Only slack I would cut martin is, There was no pitch count then or a Tom Veducci study to point out the significances of pitch counts, and the bringing along a young pitcher at no no than a 30% increase in pitch count.
Torre Knew all this.

 

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  posted on 3/21/2010 at 05:18 PM
The Twins will end up regretting that deal someday. That's way too long for way too much.
 
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